Post by WalksInSpirit on Mar 19, 2006 22:14:51 GMT -5
"Secret Of The Golden Flower:" 03-19-06
(09:20:57) (Host-Roz) well since everyone is here shall we center?
(09:21:35) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:21:41) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:21:50) (Cris) Amen
(09:21:51) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:21:52) (Lory) Amen
(09:21:55) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:21:58) (diane) Amen
(09:22:08) (kitty) let it be so
(09:22:10) (Bill) Amen
(09:22:15) (ron) amen
(09:22:27) (Host-Roz) . MISTAKES DURING THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:22:58) (Host-Roz) Your work will gradually draw itself together and mature, but before you reach the condition in which you sit like a withered tree before a cliff, there are many other possibilities of error, which I would; like to bring to your special attention. These conditions are only recognized when they have been personally experienced. I will enumerate them here; First I would like to speak of the mistakes and then the confirmatory signs.
(09:24:49) (Host-Roz) When one sets out to carry out one's decision, care must be taken to see that everything can proceed in a comfortable, easy manner. Too much must not be demanded of the heart. On must be careful t hat, quite automatically, heart and power correspond to one another. Only then can a state of quietness be attained. During the quiet state the right conditions and the right place must be provided.
(09:26:02) (Host-Roz) One must not sit down (to meditate) in the midst of frivolous affairs. That is to say, one must not have any vacuities in the mind. All entanglements must be put aside and one must be supreme and independent. Nor must the thoughts be directed toward the right procedure.
(09:26:51) (Host-Roz) If too much trouble is taken there is danger of doing this. I do not mean that no trouble is to be taken, but the right behavior lies in the middle way between being and non-being. If one can attain purposelessness through purpose, then the thing has been grasped. Supreme and without confusion, one goes along in an independent way.
(09:27:42) (Host-Roz) Furthermore, one must not fall victim to the ensnaring world. The ensnaring world is where the five kinds of dark demons disport themselves.
(09:28:10) (Host-Roz) anyone take a guess as to what the 5 are?
(09:28:17) (ron) senses
(09:28:53) (Host-Roz) yah ron
(09:28:58) (Host-Roz) This is the case, for example, when, after fixation, one has chiefly thoughts of dry wood and dead ashes, and few thoughts of the resplendent spring on the great earth. In this way one sinks into the world of darkness. The power is cold there, breathing is heavy, and many images of coldness and decay display themselves. If one tarries there long one enters the world of plants and stones.
(09:29:47) (Host-Roz) Nor must a man be led astray by the ten thousand ensnarement. This happens if, after the quiet state has begun, one after another all sorts of ties suddenly appear. One wants to break through them and cannot; one follows them, and feels relieved by this. This means the matter has become a servant. If a man tarries in this state long he enters the world of illusory desires.
(09:30:12) (Host-Roz) happen to any of us?
(09:30:33) (ron) yes
(09:30:49) (Lory) indeed
(09:30:53) (Host-Roz) yah too often
(09:30:59) (Host-Roz) At best, one goes to Heaven; at the worst, one goes among the fox-spirits. Such a fox-spirit might also occupy himself in the famous mountains enjoying the wind and the moon, the flowers and fruits, and taking his pleasure in coral trees and jeweled grass. But after he has been occupied thus for three to five hundred years, or at the most, for a couple of thousand years, his reward is over and he is born again into the world of turmoil.
(09:31:16) (kitty) what are the ties??
(09:31:41) (Host-Roz) too intoxicating
(09:32:19) (Host-Roz) any questions?
(09:32:23) (Host-Roz) . CONFIRMATORY EXPERIENCES DURING THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:33:03) (Host-Roz) There are many kinds of confirmatory experiences. One must not content oneself with small demands but must rise to the thought that all living creatures have to be freed. It is not permissible to be trivial and irresponsible in heart. One must strive to make deeds one's words.
(09:33:40) (Host-Roz) apply the enlightenment into daily life?
(09:34:19) (Host-Roz) If, when there is quiet, the spirit has continuously and uninterruptedly a sense of great gaiety as if intoxicated or freshly bathed, it is a sign that the Light principle in the whole body is harmonious; then the Golden Flower begins to bud. When, furthermore, all openings are quiet, and the silver moon stands in the middle of Heaven, and one has the feeling that the great earth is a world of light and brilliancy, that is a sign that the body of heart opens itself to clarity. It is a sign that the Golden Flower is opening
(09:35:48) (Host-Roz) the Splendor of the light masks the face of God
(09:37:00) (Host-Roz) Furthermore, the whole body feels strong and firm so that it fears neither storm nor frost. Things by which other men are displeased, when I meet them, cannot cloud the brightness of the seed of the spirit. Yellow gold fills the house; the steps are white jade.
(09:37:46) (Host-Roz) Rotten and stinking things on earth that come in contact with one breath of true power will immediately live again. Red blood becomes milk. The fragile body of the flesh is sheer gold and diamonds. That is a sign that the Golden Flower is crystallized.
(09:39:18) (Host-Roz) we have heardof the Diamond body
(09:39:31) (Host-Roz) The Book of Successful contemplation says: The sun sinks in the Great Water and magic pictures of trees in rows arise. The setting sun means that in Chaos (in the world before phenomena, that is, intelligible world), a foundation is laid: that is the condition free of opposites. Highest good is like water, pure and spotless.
(09:40:01) (Host-Roz) opposites are intergrated
(09:41:03) (Host-Roz) It is the ruler of the Great Polarity, the god who is revealed in the sign for that which greatly disturbs, Chen. Chen is also symbolized by wood, wherefore the images of trees in rows appears.
(09:42:06) (Host-Roz) In the northwest is the direction of the creative. When it moves on one place farther, the a A sevenfold row of trees means the light of the seven body-openings (or heart-openings). abysmal is there.
(09:42:36) (Host-Roz) have any meaning for you?
(09:43:20) (kitty) trigrams?
(09:43:23) (Lory) seven is the most sacred of all numbers.
(09:43:40) (Host-Roz) it is the opening of the Chakras
(09:43:49) (Host-Roz) The sun which sinking into the Great Water is the image for the creative and abysmal. The abysmal is the direction of midnight (mouse, north). At the winter solstice the thunder (Chen) is in the middle of the earth quite hidden and covered up. Only when the sign Chen is reached, does the Light-pole come over the earth again. That is the picture representing the row of trees. The rest can be correspondingly inferred.
(09:44:45) (Host-Roz) The second part refers to the building of the foundation on this. The great world is like ice, a glassy world of jewels. The brilliancy of the Light is gradually crystallized. That is why a great terrace arises and upon it, in the course of time, When the Golden Being appear
(09:45:07) (Host-Roz) the Golden Being is who?
(09:46:04) (kitty) the meditator??
(09:46:40) (Host-Roz) yes the higher Christ self
(09:46:51) (Host-Roz) At times the following can be experienced: as soon as one is quiet, the Light of the eyes begins to blaze up, so that everything before one becomes quite bright as if one were in a cloud. If one opens one's eyes and seeks the body, it is not to be found any more.
(09:48:04) (Host-Roz) This is called: In the empty chamber it grows light. Inside and outside, everything is equally light. That is a very favorable sign. Or, when one sits in meditation, the fleshly body becomes quite shining like silk or jade.
(09:49:26) (Host-Roz) the seer and the seen are one
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) It seems difficult to remain sitting; one feels as if drawn upward. This is called: The spirit returns and pushes against Heaven. In time, one can experience it in such a way that one really floats upward.
(09:50:34) (Host-Roz) And now it is possible to leave all three of these experiences. But not everything can be expressed. Different things appear to each person according to his gifts. If one experiences these things, it is a sign of a good aptitude.
(09:50:34) (Ral) i have heard of this roz
(09:51:19) (Host-Roz) With these things it is just as it is when one drinks water. One can tell for oneself whether the water is swarm or cold. In the same way a man must convince himself about these experiences, then only are they real.
(09:52:28) (Ral) i see is a golden sun
(09:52:41) (Ral) i feel dreamy like
(09:52:43) (Host-Roz) this is meaningful only in light of your own experiences
(09:53:10) (Ral) i forget where i am
(09:53:17) (Ral) as say the room
(09:53:34) (Host-Roz) do you feel your body full of Light?
(09:53:35) (Ral) when i open my eyes i am suprised
(09:53:48) (Ral) not really no
(09:54:08) (Ral) i see it
(09:54:12) (Host-Roz) do you disperse the energy in the form of prayer
(09:54:16) (Ral) i see myself
(09:54:19) (Ral) kinda
(09:54:31) (Host-Roz) anyone else?
(09:54:34) (Ral) way no words roz you know huh
(09:55:06) (Ral) yes rtoz
(09:55:24) (Ral) constant prayer / for others most is the case
(09:55:24) (Host-Roz) and shut down the system w/ the 23 rd psalm?
(09:55:40) (Ral) i am learning this
(09:55:50) (Ral) otherwise my 7 remain open
(09:56:01) (Ral) as i am on cocaine
(09:56:05) (Host-Roz) that is dangerous Raleigh
(09:56:19) (Ral) have your adrenlin pump hard all day
(09:56:22) (Ral) it kills
(09:56:36) (Ral) yes roz
(09:56:42) (Host-Roz) Is this material helpful for you in anyway?
(09:57:11) (Ral) i bairly have survived mine
(09:57:19) (Host-Roz) anyone else?
(09:57:59) (WalksInSpirit) I'm enjoying it very much, Roz. And learning a lot. Thank you. :-)
(09:58:17) (Host-Roz) we will continue this next wk
(09:58:34) (Host-Roz) glad it helps WE
(09:58:46) (Lory) Roz, please explain why it is so important for this occur for an individual?
(09:58:53) (Cris) This is a wonderful lesson
(09:58:59) (ron) thank you Roz...i'm sorry that i missed earlier sessions...i will see WIS about that
(09:59:17) (Host-Roz) yes ron WE has them
(09:59:51) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, they are all posted at Red Path.
(10:00:09) (Host-Roz) I feel that this group has a mission
(10:00:30) (Ral) i always have roz
(10:00:41) (Host-Roz) to be bearers of the Light
(10:01:05) (Ral) how can the ec material be know by millions and there are but a few of us?
(10:01:28) (Host-Roz) teach by example
(10:01:34) (Ral) yes
(10:01:35) (Cris) By our example Ral so others will follow
(10:01:46) (Ral) treat others as they are god
(10:01:54) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:02:14) (Host-Roz) no Ral like our neighbor
(10:02:40) (Leon) I like godlings
(10:02:47) (Ral) as we do unto others we do uto our maker
(10:03:01) (Ral) godlings / :)
(10:05:07) (Ral) ty roz / knight
(10:05:35) (Host-Roz) it is now open chat
(10:05:36) (Leon) ty Host-Roz
(10:06:00) (Roz) yw Leon
(10:06:03) (kitty) thank you once again Roz
(10:06:33) (Roz) so welcome Kitty
(09:21:35) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:21:41) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:21:50) (Cris) Amen
(09:21:51) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:21:52) (Lory) Amen
(09:21:55) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:21:58) (diane) Amen
(09:22:08) (kitty) let it be so
(09:22:10) (Bill) Amen
(09:22:15) (ron) amen
(09:22:27) (Host-Roz) . MISTAKES DURING THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:22:58) (Host-Roz) Your work will gradually draw itself together and mature, but before you reach the condition in which you sit like a withered tree before a cliff, there are many other possibilities of error, which I would; like to bring to your special attention. These conditions are only recognized when they have been personally experienced. I will enumerate them here; First I would like to speak of the mistakes and then the confirmatory signs.
(09:24:49) (Host-Roz) When one sets out to carry out one's decision, care must be taken to see that everything can proceed in a comfortable, easy manner. Too much must not be demanded of the heart. On must be careful t hat, quite automatically, heart and power correspond to one another. Only then can a state of quietness be attained. During the quiet state the right conditions and the right place must be provided.
(09:26:02) (Host-Roz) One must not sit down (to meditate) in the midst of frivolous affairs. That is to say, one must not have any vacuities in the mind. All entanglements must be put aside and one must be supreme and independent. Nor must the thoughts be directed toward the right procedure.
(09:26:51) (Host-Roz) If too much trouble is taken there is danger of doing this. I do not mean that no trouble is to be taken, but the right behavior lies in the middle way between being and non-being. If one can attain purposelessness through purpose, then the thing has been grasped. Supreme and without confusion, one goes along in an independent way.
(09:27:42) (Host-Roz) Furthermore, one must not fall victim to the ensnaring world. The ensnaring world is where the five kinds of dark demons disport themselves.
(09:28:10) (Host-Roz) anyone take a guess as to what the 5 are?
(09:28:17) (ron) senses
(09:28:53) (Host-Roz) yah ron
(09:28:58) (Host-Roz) This is the case, for example, when, after fixation, one has chiefly thoughts of dry wood and dead ashes, and few thoughts of the resplendent spring on the great earth. In this way one sinks into the world of darkness. The power is cold there, breathing is heavy, and many images of coldness and decay display themselves. If one tarries there long one enters the world of plants and stones.
(09:29:47) (Host-Roz) Nor must a man be led astray by the ten thousand ensnarement. This happens if, after the quiet state has begun, one after another all sorts of ties suddenly appear. One wants to break through them and cannot; one follows them, and feels relieved by this. This means the matter has become a servant. If a man tarries in this state long he enters the world of illusory desires.
(09:30:12) (Host-Roz) happen to any of us?
(09:30:33) (ron) yes
(09:30:49) (Lory) indeed
(09:30:53) (Host-Roz) yah too often
(09:30:59) (Host-Roz) At best, one goes to Heaven; at the worst, one goes among the fox-spirits. Such a fox-spirit might also occupy himself in the famous mountains enjoying the wind and the moon, the flowers and fruits, and taking his pleasure in coral trees and jeweled grass. But after he has been occupied thus for three to five hundred years, or at the most, for a couple of thousand years, his reward is over and he is born again into the world of turmoil.
(09:31:16) (kitty) what are the ties??
(09:31:41) (Host-Roz) too intoxicating
(09:32:19) (Host-Roz) any questions?
(09:32:23) (Host-Roz) . CONFIRMATORY EXPERIENCES DURING THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:33:03) (Host-Roz) There are many kinds of confirmatory experiences. One must not content oneself with small demands but must rise to the thought that all living creatures have to be freed. It is not permissible to be trivial and irresponsible in heart. One must strive to make deeds one's words.
(09:33:40) (Host-Roz) apply the enlightenment into daily life?
(09:34:19) (Host-Roz) If, when there is quiet, the spirit has continuously and uninterruptedly a sense of great gaiety as if intoxicated or freshly bathed, it is a sign that the Light principle in the whole body is harmonious; then the Golden Flower begins to bud. When, furthermore, all openings are quiet, and the silver moon stands in the middle of Heaven, and one has the feeling that the great earth is a world of light and brilliancy, that is a sign that the body of heart opens itself to clarity. It is a sign that the Golden Flower is opening
(09:35:48) (Host-Roz) the Splendor of the light masks the face of God
(09:37:00) (Host-Roz) Furthermore, the whole body feels strong and firm so that it fears neither storm nor frost. Things by which other men are displeased, when I meet them, cannot cloud the brightness of the seed of the spirit. Yellow gold fills the house; the steps are white jade.
(09:37:46) (Host-Roz) Rotten and stinking things on earth that come in contact with one breath of true power will immediately live again. Red blood becomes milk. The fragile body of the flesh is sheer gold and diamonds. That is a sign that the Golden Flower is crystallized.
(09:39:18) (Host-Roz) we have heardof the Diamond body
(09:39:31) (Host-Roz) The Book of Successful contemplation says: The sun sinks in the Great Water and magic pictures of trees in rows arise. The setting sun means that in Chaos (in the world before phenomena, that is, intelligible world), a foundation is laid: that is the condition free of opposites. Highest good is like water, pure and spotless.
(09:40:01) (Host-Roz) opposites are intergrated
(09:41:03) (Host-Roz) It is the ruler of the Great Polarity, the god who is revealed in the sign for that which greatly disturbs, Chen. Chen is also symbolized by wood, wherefore the images of trees in rows appears.
(09:42:06) (Host-Roz) In the northwest is the direction of the creative. When it moves on one place farther, the a A sevenfold row of trees means the light of the seven body-openings (or heart-openings). abysmal is there.
(09:42:36) (Host-Roz) have any meaning for you?
(09:43:20) (kitty) trigrams?
(09:43:23) (Lory) seven is the most sacred of all numbers.
(09:43:40) (Host-Roz) it is the opening of the Chakras
(09:43:49) (Host-Roz) The sun which sinking into the Great Water is the image for the creative and abysmal. The abysmal is the direction of midnight (mouse, north). At the winter solstice the thunder (Chen) is in the middle of the earth quite hidden and covered up. Only when the sign Chen is reached, does the Light-pole come over the earth again. That is the picture representing the row of trees. The rest can be correspondingly inferred.
(09:44:45) (Host-Roz) The second part refers to the building of the foundation on this. The great world is like ice, a glassy world of jewels. The brilliancy of the Light is gradually crystallized. That is why a great terrace arises and upon it, in the course of time, When the Golden Being appear
(09:45:07) (Host-Roz) the Golden Being is who?
(09:46:04) (kitty) the meditator??
(09:46:40) (Host-Roz) yes the higher Christ self
(09:46:51) (Host-Roz) At times the following can be experienced: as soon as one is quiet, the Light of the eyes begins to blaze up, so that everything before one becomes quite bright as if one were in a cloud. If one opens one's eyes and seeks the body, it is not to be found any more.
(09:48:04) (Host-Roz) This is called: In the empty chamber it grows light. Inside and outside, everything is equally light. That is a very favorable sign. Or, when one sits in meditation, the fleshly body becomes quite shining like silk or jade.
(09:49:26) (Host-Roz) the seer and the seen are one
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) It seems difficult to remain sitting; one feels as if drawn upward. This is called: The spirit returns and pushes against Heaven. In time, one can experience it in such a way that one really floats upward.
(09:50:34) (Host-Roz) And now it is possible to leave all three of these experiences. But not everything can be expressed. Different things appear to each person according to his gifts. If one experiences these things, it is a sign of a good aptitude.
(09:50:34) (Ral) i have heard of this roz
(09:51:19) (Host-Roz) With these things it is just as it is when one drinks water. One can tell for oneself whether the water is swarm or cold. In the same way a man must convince himself about these experiences, then only are they real.
(09:52:28) (Ral) i see is a golden sun
(09:52:41) (Ral) i feel dreamy like
(09:52:43) (Host-Roz) this is meaningful only in light of your own experiences
(09:53:10) (Ral) i forget where i am
(09:53:17) (Ral) as say the room
(09:53:34) (Host-Roz) do you feel your body full of Light?
(09:53:35) (Ral) when i open my eyes i am suprised
(09:53:48) (Ral) not really no
(09:54:08) (Ral) i see it
(09:54:12) (Host-Roz) do you disperse the energy in the form of prayer
(09:54:16) (Ral) i see myself
(09:54:19) (Ral) kinda
(09:54:31) (Host-Roz) anyone else?
(09:54:34) (Ral) way no words roz you know huh
(09:55:06) (Ral) yes rtoz
(09:55:24) (Ral) constant prayer / for others most is the case
(09:55:24) (Host-Roz) and shut down the system w/ the 23 rd psalm?
(09:55:40) (Ral) i am learning this
(09:55:50) (Ral) otherwise my 7 remain open
(09:56:01) (Ral) as i am on cocaine
(09:56:05) (Host-Roz) that is dangerous Raleigh
(09:56:19) (Ral) have your adrenlin pump hard all day
(09:56:22) (Ral) it kills
(09:56:36) (Ral) yes roz
(09:56:42) (Host-Roz) Is this material helpful for you in anyway?
(09:57:11) (Ral) i bairly have survived mine
(09:57:19) (Host-Roz) anyone else?
(09:57:59) (WalksInSpirit) I'm enjoying it very much, Roz. And learning a lot. Thank you. :-)
(09:58:17) (Host-Roz) we will continue this next wk
(09:58:34) (Host-Roz) glad it helps WE
(09:58:46) (Lory) Roz, please explain why it is so important for this occur for an individual?
(09:58:53) (Cris) This is a wonderful lesson
(09:58:59) (ron) thank you Roz...i'm sorry that i missed earlier sessions...i will see WIS about that
(09:59:17) (Host-Roz) yes ron WE has them
(09:59:51) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, they are all posted at Red Path.
(10:00:09) (Host-Roz) I feel that this group has a mission
(10:00:30) (Ral) i always have roz
(10:00:41) (Host-Roz) to be bearers of the Light
(10:01:05) (Ral) how can the ec material be know by millions and there are but a few of us?
(10:01:28) (Host-Roz) teach by example
(10:01:34) (Ral) yes
(10:01:35) (Cris) By our example Ral so others will follow
(10:01:46) (Ral) treat others as they are god
(10:01:54) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:02:14) (Host-Roz) no Ral like our neighbor
(10:02:40) (Leon) I like godlings
(10:02:47) (Ral) as we do unto others we do uto our maker
(10:03:01) (Ral) godlings / :)
(10:05:07) (Ral) ty roz / knight
(10:05:35) (Host-Roz) it is now open chat
(10:05:36) (Leon) ty Host-Roz
(10:06:00) (Roz) yw Leon
(10:06:03) (kitty) thank you once again Roz
(10:06:33) (Roz) so welcome Kitty
