Post by WalksInSpirit on May 28, 2006 22:06:08 GMT -5
The Secret Of The Book Of Enoch: 05-28-06
(09:22:14) (Meg) Roz, who is enoch, in his next incarnation? just wondered
(09:23:06) (Meg) you may have already told us?
(09:23:13) (Host-Roz) I had the progression at one time but have deleted it
(09:23:42) (Meg) would be nice to know
(09:23:42) (Host-Roz) it may be on Wis's site
(09:24:02) (Host-Roz) you can go into the readings also
(09:24:20) (Meg) ok Roz, ty
(09:32:55) (Host-Roz) with this Blessing lets center
(09:33:29) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:33:46) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:33:49) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:49) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:33:53) (Lynn) Amen
(09:33:54) (Sandy) Amen
(09:33:55) (merri) Amen
(09:33:57) (Qrious) amen
(09:35:41) (Qrious) can't wait to here what Enoch is up too..
(09:35:52) (Host-Roz) In the beginning of creation chaos existed until the Spirit of God moved over the face of the waters. Out of chaos came our earth, our world, in all its beauty. Nature, as the Garden of Eden, came into existence with God's preparation for man's indwelling in joy and harmony. Cayce.
(09:36:42) (Host-Roz) Enoch tells of the earth in its primordial state
(09:37:23) (Host-Roz) 1.From thence I preceded towards the east, to the middle of the mountain in the desert, the level surface only of which I perceived
(09:38:13) (Host-Roz) 2.It was full of trees of the seed alluded to; and water leaped down upon 3.There appeared a cataract composed as of many cataracts both towards the west and towards the east. Upon one side were trees; upon the other water and dew.
(09:39:10) (Host-Roz) 1.Then I went to another place from the desert, towards the east of that mountain which I had approached.2.There I beheld choice trees, particularly those which produce the sweet-smelling drugs, frankincense and myrrh and trees unlike to each other.3.And over it, above them, was the elevation of the eastern mountain at no great distance.
(09:39:52) (Host-Roz) this is chapters 27,28,29,30 just the fragments
(09:40:44) (Host-Roz) 1.Then I beheld another mountain containing trees, from which water flowed like Neketro. Its name was Sarira, and Kalboneba. And upon this mountain I beheld another mountain, upon which were trees of Alva.2.These trees were full, like almond trees, and strong; and when they produced fruit, it was superior to all perfume.
(09:41:28) (Host-Roz) 1.After these things, surveying the entrances of the north, above the mountains, I perceived seven mountains replete with pure nard, odoriferous trees, cinnamon and papyrus.
(09:41:52) (Rodney) 7
(09:42:25) (Host-Roz) yes interesting
(09:42:30) (Host-Roz) 2.From thence I passed on above the summits of those mountains to some distance eastwards, and went over the Erythr~ean sea. And when I was advanced far beyond it, I passed along above the angel Zateel, and arrived at the garden of righteous-ness. In this garden I beheld, among other trees, some which were numerous and large, and which flourished there
(09:42:40) (Cris) chakras
(09:43:22) (Host-Roz) I think so also Cris
(09:43:26) (Lynn) seven is always a spiritual number
(09:43:27) (Host-Roz) 3. Their fragrance was agreeable and powerful,’ and their appearance both varied and elegant. The tree of knowledge also was there, of which if any one eats, he becomes endowed with great wisdom.
(09:43:38) (Lynn) means spirit
(09:44:11) (Host-Roz) 4.It was like a species of the tamarind tree, bearing fruit which resembled grapes extremely fine; and its fragrance extended to a considerable distance. I exclaimed, How beautiful is this tree, and how delightful is its appearance!
(09:44:50) (Host-Roz) 5.Then holy Raphael, an angel who was with me, answered and said, This is the tree of knowledge, of which thy ancient father and thy aged mother ate, who were before thee; and who, obtaining knowledge, their eyes being opened, and knowing themselves to be
(09:44:50) (Qrious) sounds like Eves line.
(09:45:11) (Host-Roz) yup Qrious
(09:45:23) (Lynn) notice how much reference to perfumes and fragrances? I wonder
(09:46:38) (Host-Roz) Out of the Garden of Eden do we work, that the knowledge we have bitten into may ripen into luscious fruit. Then out of the Creator
(09:46:48) (Qrious) could just a reference on his actually being there Lynn.. to explain how his 5 senses were used.. I guess.
(09:47:12) (Lynn) I don´t think so. Ritual is replete with fragrances. Myrrh gets me high.
(09:47:42) (Host-Roz) of that Garden came the phenomenon of Christ, that would lead us back into the Garden, but this time as its master, not as its occupant. Cayce
(09:47:48) (Lynn) each fragrance has a special significance
(09:48:12) (Bill) IF Enoch is one of the lives of Jesus why does the angel refure to the Adam in Eden as his father ?
(09:48:26) (Rodney) francancens---myrr ----gold
(09:48:51) (Host-Roz) have we yet become the master instead of the occupant?
(09:48:55) (Lynn) Because , as the Bible says unto the third and fourth generation, its really our incarnations, I think Bill
(09:49:13) (Lynn) So Adam, though same entity is father
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) reckon he was the precedent Bill
(09:49:52) (Qrious) well... from Adam.. he is a son of God.. but of Adam.. we get the term.. son of man.... its a begotten thing.. of Spirit.. then of the Flesh.. I would think Bill.
(09:50:55) (Meg) a bit late, but think think that the knowledge we bite into ripen into the Fruits of the Spirit ?
(09:50:59) (Bill) well Merri i hope my request answered your question for you :o)
(09:51:22) (Lynn) lol Bill
(09:51:28) (Rodney) can you handle being God--all alone ---so lonely insid your mimd?\
(09:51:30) (Host-Roz) 5.Then holy Raphael, an angel who was with me, answered and said, This is the tree of knowledge, of which thy ancient father and thy aged mother ate, who were before thee; and who, obtaining knowledge, their eyes being opened, and knowing themselves to be naked, were expelled from the garden.
(09:51:34) (merri) what question was that Bill?
(09:52:11) (Sandy) lol
(09:52:20) (merri) you funny!
(09:52:28) (Host-Roz) CAYCE SAYS Only through recognizing himself as a co-creator with God can man begin to sense the importance of his choice.
(09:53:03) (Qrious) ah.. probably a description.. of loss of righteousness..the naked part... no longer holy.. or somthin'..
(09:54:11) (Lynn) I have read that before the fall, Adam and Eve were surrounded by such a bright and dense aura which vanished when they ate.
(09:54:19) (Meg) the Fruits of the Spirit are what Christ wanted us to work with, am i rigth on that?
(09:54:23) (Lynn) that´s why they became naked
(09:55:09) (Qrious) well.. he said to Peter to feed his sheep.. guess it was a fruit Meg.. lol
(09:55:09) (Lynn) I think , the fruits of the spirit are the result of Spirit blessing the work we intend and performl
(09:55:28) (Host-Roz) kim Enoch is describiinig the world in its primordial state
(09:55:34) (Host-Roz) 1.From thence I went on towards the extremities of the earth; where I saw large beasts different from each other, and birds various in their countenances and forms, as well as with notes of different sounds2. to the east of these beasts I perceived the good and great. extremities of the earth, where heaven ceased. The gates of heaven stood open, and I beheld the celestial stars come forth. I numbered them as they proceeded out of the gate, and wrote th
(09:56:12) (Host-Roz) I wrote down their names altogether, their times and their seasons, as the angel Uriel, who was with me, pointed them out to me.
(09:56:51) (Qrious) that sounds like a constellation Roz.
(09:57:17) (Host-Roz) 3.He showed them all to me, and wrote down an account of them.4. He also wrote down for me their names, their regulations, and their operations.
(09:57:40) (merri) angels write?
(09:57:52) (Host-Roz) must have Merri
(09:57:52) (Qrious) seen during seasons.. and times Roz..
(09:58:12) (Lynn) if they mock up a pen, angels write.
(09:59:45) (Host-Roz) .From thence I advanced on towards the north. to the extremities of the earth.2. And there I saw a great and glorious wonder at the extremities of the whole earth.3. I saw there heavenly gates opening into heaven; three of them distinctly separated. The northern winds proceeded from them, blowing cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain.
(10:00:33) (Host-Roz) 4.From one of the gates they blew mildly; but when they blew from the two other gases, it was with violence and force. They blew over the earth strongly.
(10:02:16) (Host-Roz) Then I proceeded to the extremities of the southwards; whereIsaw three gates open to the south, from which issued dew, rain, and. wind. From thence I went to the extremities ofeastwards; where I saw three heavenly open to the east, which had smaller gates on them
(10:03:13) (Lynn) I´ve been nibbling from that tree of knowledge. lol
(10:03:26) (Host-Roz) When I beheld them, I blessed; every time in they appeared, I blessed the Lord of glory, had made those great and splendid signs, that might display the magnificence of his works gels and to the souls of men; and that these glorify all his works and operations; might
(10:04:11) (Lynn) the beginnings of astrology
(10:04:11) (Host-Roz) effect of his power; might glorify the greatness his hands; and. bless him for ever.
(10:04:35) (Qrious) no westward gates Roz?
(10:04:52) (Host-Roz) Chaapter 37
(10:05:11) (Bill) and out of the west the ill wind blew by name of Q
(10:05:11) (Host-Roz) fragment must have been lost Qrious
(10:05:22) (Host-Roz) 1. The vision which he saw, the second vision of wisdom, which Enoch saw, the son of Jared, the son of Malaleel, the son of Canan, the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam. This is the commencement of the word of wisdom, which I received to declare and tell to those who dwell upon earth. Hear from the beginning, and understand to the end, the holy things which I utter in the presence of the Lord of spirits. Those who were before us thought it go
(10:05:32) (Qrious) oh..
(10:06:20) (Host-Roz) 2. And let not us, who come after, obstruct the beginning of wisdom. Until the present period, never has there been given before the Lord of spirits that which I have received, wisdom according to the capacity of my intellect, and according to the pleasure of the Lord of spirits; that which I have received from him, a portion of life eternal.
(10:07:00) (Host-Roz) 3. Cacye,God did not, however, forget his creation, but prepared a way back through One who was tempted in all ways like unto man, yet, whose soul never failed in the purpose for which He came into Eden.
(10:07:16) (Lynn) therefore, God can give us more wisdom than we comprehend, intuition maybe
(10:07:28) (Host-Roz) we will stop there for this evening study
(10:07:33) (Meg) Host-
(10:07:42) (Host-Roz) yes Meg?
(10:07:59) (Bill) gee Roz so soon i was just getting into the story
(10:08:07) (Qrious) so.. he came into eden for a purpose?
(10:08:14) (Meg) Roz, thing that is most important, that our creator prepared a way back through Christ
(10:08:15) (Host-Roz) well drat and balderdash Bill
(10:08:37) (Meg) i mean Jesus who became the Christ
(10:08:45) (Cris) As Rosie would say, "We are grateful."
(10:08:47) (Host-Roz) yes it was the Divine Plan Qrious
(10:08:52) (Lynn) Sounds like God wants us to have all the knowledge we want but knowledge without wisdom is insidious.
(10:08:57) (Qrious) it was getting good Roz.. after Enoch made all those trips.. he don't stick around long to visit.. lol
(10:09:17) (Host-Roz) Oh he will we got a lot of chapters yet
(10:10:00) (Host-Roz) you are to get wisdoom putting in to practice what he taught ya
(10:10:10) (Qrious) o.k.. I got the divine plan.. but just to be sure.. was the divine plan.. God wants companionship.. and the divine Grace.. was forgiveness of sin?
(10:10:26) (Lynn) And wisdom comes only threough the experience of obedience. So God was not trying to hoard the tree of knowledge. He just was letting us receive it as we are able to handle without danger. Don´t give a child matches. What do you think?
(10:10:44) (Host-Roz) yes to be a FIT companion
(10:11:08) (Qrious) it was disobedience.. knowledge showed up... lol
(10:11:10) (Cris) Forgive us our sins as we ahave also forgiven those who sinned against us if we want to be a divine companion
(10:11:14) (Lynn) But it takes time to grow up and acquire wisdom. Something on the order of don´t give a child whiskey.
(10:11:32) (Host-Roz) you have an eternity Lynn
(10:11:33) (Lynn) But when child grows up, father and son can have a drink together.
(10:12:15) (Lynn) don´t want an eternity. I am Scorpio. I want what I want when I want it now. Where is that blessed tree?
(10:12:18) (Host-Roz) so you are not yet bored w/ Old Enoch?
(10:12:42) (WalksInSpirit) Naw, Roz! I like it!
(10:12:44) (LoveInfinity) It would be interesting to hear Edgar's take on the Gospel of Judas
(10:12:47) (Cris) Not at all
(10:12:47) (Host-Roz) want patience and want it right now?
(10:13:10) (Lynn) I keep asking God to give me patience--- yesterday.
(10:13:20) (Qrious) Nope.. I like hearing about it Roz.
(10:13:35) (Host-Roz) well I will be taking a short haitus
(10:13:38) (Lynn) I got something real out of it tonight.
(10:13:59) (Host-Roz) but I plan on hitting the floor in a dead run
(10:14:07) (Julia) not with that knee!
(10:14:11) (Lynn) I´ll bet God might let me astral travel to that tree?
(10:14:19) (Lynn) ?
(10:14:21) (Qrious) newsflash... Judas was gutted and hanged... I think it might be a Plagerized material LoveInfinity.. lol
(10:14:46) (Host-Roz) could be Qrious
(10:14:47) (Julia) at least give it time to heal before you go all bionic on us Roz lol
(10:15:08) (Meg) Roz, you will really do Great
(10:15:13) (Host-Roz) doc said might try short blgs to leap at first
(10:15:21) (Lynn) Q, maybe these bones shall rise again.
(10:15:29) (Qrious) course.. it could be another Judas.. the names are used alot back then I would guess.
(10:15:49) (Julia) cool Roz
(10:15:57) (Meg) Roz, i am sure
(10:22:55) (Meg) what is our homework?
(10:23:01) (Host-Roz) its permisssable to even read the book
(10:23:07) (Qrious) Enoch.. from what was written of him in the New Testament.. was a prophet... I am waiting to see what he will say Roz.
(10:23:07) (Meg) did i miss it
(10:23:18) (Lynn) Enoch teaches us that God does not withhold without reason. We can grow into any knowledge we desire. Just keep to God´s time table and don´t be in a hurry to grow up.
(10:23:21) (Host-Roz) to prepare a short treatise on Enoch so far Meg
(10:27:33) (Qrious) and thankz a heap for the class Roz.. it was a neat visual explanation.
(10:29:11) (Qrious) I forgot what a treatise mean... really..
(10:29:24) (Meg) Roz, pleae explain
(10:29:29) (Cris) an essay and not a short one
(10:29:31) (Host-Roz) you ever get Bill muley?
(10:29:43) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:29:51) (Cris) A complete report
(10:29:52) (Lynn) treatise is a written treatment of the subject, Q.
(10:30:09) (Qrious) so.. what to you have to write about.. just on Enoch.?
(10:30:10) (Julia) oh yay
(10:30:15) (Host-Roz) a full report
(10:30:25) (Meg) ty Chis
(10:30:34) (Lynn) Who says it can´t be short, Cris? Long windedness simply is an illustration of the inability to get to the point. lol
(10:30:46) (Host-Roz) Qrious yu can have prepared anything you want
(10:30:59) (Julia) what do we do with it after we write it?
(10:31:03) (Cris) You n3ver worked for a picky picky editor :o)
(10:31:08) (Qrious) thanks all ov you for the meaning of the words treatise..
(10:31:10) (Host-Roz) as long as its clean
(10:31:12) (Meg) Roz, i would rather give a report on Jesus, i think :)
(10:31:30) (Host-Roz) same dude Meg
(10:31:33) (Lynn) Well, Enoch was an earlier edition of Jesus
(10:31:43) (Julia) according to cayce anyway
(10:31:43) (Meg) lol Roz, i know
(10:31:44) (Qrious) so.. do we do it and turn it in to you like a class homework Roz?
(10:31:56) (Lynn) It took God a while to get to the point. lol
(10:31:59) (Host-Roz) post it in the chat next Sunday nite
(10:32:14) (Host-Roz) exackle Julia
(10:32:16) (Qrious) That would be a snap..
(10:32:17) (Julia) ok
(10:32:51) (Lynn) Cris, I have worked for an editor. And as an editor though small style on the latter.
(10:33:05) (Host-Roz) you may all be so good we'll have it as a regular thing
(11:00:54) (mark) blessings everyone ,...ty Roz
(11:01:12) (Host-Roz) yw Mark thanks for coming
(11:05:43) (Bill) TY Roz L&L
(11:05:48) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All
(09:23:06) (Meg) you may have already told us?
(09:23:13) (Host-Roz) I had the progression at one time but have deleted it
(09:23:42) (Meg) would be nice to know
(09:23:42) (Host-Roz) it may be on Wis's site
(09:24:02) (Host-Roz) you can go into the readings also
(09:24:20) (Meg) ok Roz, ty
(09:32:55) (Host-Roz) with this Blessing lets center
(09:33:29) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:33:46) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:33:49) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:49) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:33:53) (Lynn) Amen
(09:33:54) (Sandy) Amen
(09:33:55) (merri) Amen
(09:33:57) (Qrious) amen
(09:35:41) (Qrious) can't wait to here what Enoch is up too..
(09:35:52) (Host-Roz) In the beginning of creation chaos existed until the Spirit of God moved over the face of the waters. Out of chaos came our earth, our world, in all its beauty. Nature, as the Garden of Eden, came into existence with God's preparation for man's indwelling in joy and harmony. Cayce.
(09:36:42) (Host-Roz) Enoch tells of the earth in its primordial state
(09:37:23) (Host-Roz) 1.From thence I preceded towards the east, to the middle of the mountain in the desert, the level surface only of which I perceived
(09:38:13) (Host-Roz) 2.It was full of trees of the seed alluded to; and water leaped down upon 3.There appeared a cataract composed as of many cataracts both towards the west and towards the east. Upon one side were trees; upon the other water and dew.
(09:39:10) (Host-Roz) 1.Then I went to another place from the desert, towards the east of that mountain which I had approached.2.There I beheld choice trees, particularly those which produce the sweet-smelling drugs, frankincense and myrrh and trees unlike to each other.3.And over it, above them, was the elevation of the eastern mountain at no great distance.
(09:39:52) (Host-Roz) this is chapters 27,28,29,30 just the fragments
(09:40:44) (Host-Roz) 1.Then I beheld another mountain containing trees, from which water flowed like Neketro. Its name was Sarira, and Kalboneba. And upon this mountain I beheld another mountain, upon which were trees of Alva.2.These trees were full, like almond trees, and strong; and when they produced fruit, it was superior to all perfume.
(09:41:28) (Host-Roz) 1.After these things, surveying the entrances of the north, above the mountains, I perceived seven mountains replete with pure nard, odoriferous trees, cinnamon and papyrus.
(09:41:52) (Rodney) 7
(09:42:25) (Host-Roz) yes interesting
(09:42:30) (Host-Roz) 2.From thence I passed on above the summits of those mountains to some distance eastwards, and went over the Erythr~ean sea. And when I was advanced far beyond it, I passed along above the angel Zateel, and arrived at the garden of righteous-ness. In this garden I beheld, among other trees, some which were numerous and large, and which flourished there
(09:42:40) (Cris) chakras
(09:43:22) (Host-Roz) I think so also Cris
(09:43:26) (Lynn) seven is always a spiritual number
(09:43:27) (Host-Roz) 3. Their fragrance was agreeable and powerful,’ and their appearance both varied and elegant. The tree of knowledge also was there, of which if any one eats, he becomes endowed with great wisdom.
(09:43:38) (Lynn) means spirit
(09:44:11) (Host-Roz) 4.It was like a species of the tamarind tree, bearing fruit which resembled grapes extremely fine; and its fragrance extended to a considerable distance. I exclaimed, How beautiful is this tree, and how delightful is its appearance!
(09:44:50) (Host-Roz) 5.Then holy Raphael, an angel who was with me, answered and said, This is the tree of knowledge, of which thy ancient father and thy aged mother ate, who were before thee; and who, obtaining knowledge, their eyes being opened, and knowing themselves to be
(09:44:50) (Qrious) sounds like Eves line.
(09:45:11) (Host-Roz) yup Qrious
(09:45:23) (Lynn) notice how much reference to perfumes and fragrances? I wonder
(09:46:38) (Host-Roz) Out of the Garden of Eden do we work, that the knowledge we have bitten into may ripen into luscious fruit. Then out of the Creator
(09:46:48) (Qrious) could just a reference on his actually being there Lynn.. to explain how his 5 senses were used.. I guess.
(09:47:12) (Lynn) I don´t think so. Ritual is replete with fragrances. Myrrh gets me high.
(09:47:42) (Host-Roz) of that Garden came the phenomenon of Christ, that would lead us back into the Garden, but this time as its master, not as its occupant. Cayce
(09:47:48) (Lynn) each fragrance has a special significance
(09:48:12) (Bill) IF Enoch is one of the lives of Jesus why does the angel refure to the Adam in Eden as his father ?
(09:48:26) (Rodney) francancens---myrr ----gold
(09:48:51) (Host-Roz) have we yet become the master instead of the occupant?
(09:48:55) (Lynn) Because , as the Bible says unto the third and fourth generation, its really our incarnations, I think Bill
(09:49:13) (Lynn) So Adam, though same entity is father
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) reckon he was the precedent Bill
(09:49:52) (Qrious) well... from Adam.. he is a son of God.. but of Adam.. we get the term.. son of man.... its a begotten thing.. of Spirit.. then of the Flesh.. I would think Bill.
(09:50:55) (Meg) a bit late, but think think that the knowledge we bite into ripen into the Fruits of the Spirit ?
(09:50:59) (Bill) well Merri i hope my request answered your question for you :o)
(09:51:22) (Lynn) lol Bill
(09:51:28) (Rodney) can you handle being God--all alone ---so lonely insid your mimd?\
(09:51:30) (Host-Roz) 5.Then holy Raphael, an angel who was with me, answered and said, This is the tree of knowledge, of which thy ancient father and thy aged mother ate, who were before thee; and who, obtaining knowledge, their eyes being opened, and knowing themselves to be naked, were expelled from the garden.
(09:51:34) (merri) what question was that Bill?
(09:52:11) (Sandy) lol
(09:52:20) (merri) you funny!
(09:52:28) (Host-Roz) CAYCE SAYS Only through recognizing himself as a co-creator with God can man begin to sense the importance of his choice.
(09:53:03) (Qrious) ah.. probably a description.. of loss of righteousness..the naked part... no longer holy.. or somthin'..
(09:54:11) (Lynn) I have read that before the fall, Adam and Eve were surrounded by such a bright and dense aura which vanished when they ate.
(09:54:19) (Meg) the Fruits of the Spirit are what Christ wanted us to work with, am i rigth on that?
(09:54:23) (Lynn) that´s why they became naked
(09:55:09) (Qrious) well.. he said to Peter to feed his sheep.. guess it was a fruit Meg.. lol
(09:55:09) (Lynn) I think , the fruits of the spirit are the result of Spirit blessing the work we intend and performl
(09:55:28) (Host-Roz) kim Enoch is describiinig the world in its primordial state
(09:55:34) (Host-Roz) 1.From thence I went on towards the extremities of the earth; where I saw large beasts different from each other, and birds various in their countenances and forms, as well as with notes of different sounds2. to the east of these beasts I perceived the good and great. extremities of the earth, where heaven ceased. The gates of heaven stood open, and I beheld the celestial stars come forth. I numbered them as they proceeded out of the gate, and wrote th
(09:56:12) (Host-Roz) I wrote down their names altogether, their times and their seasons, as the angel Uriel, who was with me, pointed them out to me.
(09:56:51) (Qrious) that sounds like a constellation Roz.
(09:57:17) (Host-Roz) 3.He showed them all to me, and wrote down an account of them.4. He also wrote down for me their names, their regulations, and their operations.
(09:57:40) (merri) angels write?
(09:57:52) (Host-Roz) must have Merri
(09:57:52) (Qrious) seen during seasons.. and times Roz..
(09:58:12) (Lynn) if they mock up a pen, angels write.
(09:59:45) (Host-Roz) .From thence I advanced on towards the north. to the extremities of the earth.2. And there I saw a great and glorious wonder at the extremities of the whole earth.3. I saw there heavenly gates opening into heaven; three of them distinctly separated. The northern winds proceeded from them, blowing cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain.
(10:00:33) (Host-Roz) 4.From one of the gates they blew mildly; but when they blew from the two other gases, it was with violence and force. They blew over the earth strongly.
(10:02:16) (Host-Roz) Then I proceeded to the extremities of the southwards; whereIsaw three gates open to the south, from which issued dew, rain, and. wind. From thence I went to the extremities ofeastwards; where I saw three heavenly open to the east, which had smaller gates on them
(10:03:13) (Lynn) I´ve been nibbling from that tree of knowledge. lol
(10:03:26) (Host-Roz) When I beheld them, I blessed; every time in they appeared, I blessed the Lord of glory, had made those great and splendid signs, that might display the magnificence of his works gels and to the souls of men; and that these glorify all his works and operations; might
(10:04:11) (Lynn) the beginnings of astrology
(10:04:11) (Host-Roz) effect of his power; might glorify the greatness his hands; and. bless him for ever.
(10:04:35) (Qrious) no westward gates Roz?
(10:04:52) (Host-Roz) Chaapter 37
(10:05:11) (Bill) and out of the west the ill wind blew by name of Q
(10:05:11) (Host-Roz) fragment must have been lost Qrious
(10:05:22) (Host-Roz) 1. The vision which he saw, the second vision of wisdom, which Enoch saw, the son of Jared, the son of Malaleel, the son of Canan, the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam. This is the commencement of the word of wisdom, which I received to declare and tell to those who dwell upon earth. Hear from the beginning, and understand to the end, the holy things which I utter in the presence of the Lord of spirits. Those who were before us thought it go
(10:05:32) (Qrious) oh..
(10:06:20) (Host-Roz) 2. And let not us, who come after, obstruct the beginning of wisdom. Until the present period, never has there been given before the Lord of spirits that which I have received, wisdom according to the capacity of my intellect, and according to the pleasure of the Lord of spirits; that which I have received from him, a portion of life eternal.
(10:07:00) (Host-Roz) 3. Cacye,God did not, however, forget his creation, but prepared a way back through One who was tempted in all ways like unto man, yet, whose soul never failed in the purpose for which He came into Eden.
(10:07:16) (Lynn) therefore, God can give us more wisdom than we comprehend, intuition maybe
(10:07:28) (Host-Roz) we will stop there for this evening study
(10:07:33) (Meg) Host-
(10:07:42) (Host-Roz) yes Meg?
(10:07:59) (Bill) gee Roz so soon i was just getting into the story
(10:08:07) (Qrious) so.. he came into eden for a purpose?
(10:08:14) (Meg) Roz, thing that is most important, that our creator prepared a way back through Christ
(10:08:15) (Host-Roz) well drat and balderdash Bill
(10:08:37) (Meg) i mean Jesus who became the Christ
(10:08:45) (Cris) As Rosie would say, "We are grateful."
(10:08:47) (Host-Roz) yes it was the Divine Plan Qrious
(10:08:52) (Lynn) Sounds like God wants us to have all the knowledge we want but knowledge without wisdom is insidious.
(10:08:57) (Qrious) it was getting good Roz.. after Enoch made all those trips.. he don't stick around long to visit.. lol
(10:09:17) (Host-Roz) Oh he will we got a lot of chapters yet
(10:10:00) (Host-Roz) you are to get wisdoom putting in to practice what he taught ya
(10:10:10) (Qrious) o.k.. I got the divine plan.. but just to be sure.. was the divine plan.. God wants companionship.. and the divine Grace.. was forgiveness of sin?
(10:10:26) (Lynn) And wisdom comes only threough the experience of obedience. So God was not trying to hoard the tree of knowledge. He just was letting us receive it as we are able to handle without danger. Don´t give a child matches. What do you think?
(10:10:44) (Host-Roz) yes to be a FIT companion
(10:11:08) (Qrious) it was disobedience.. knowledge showed up... lol
(10:11:10) (Cris) Forgive us our sins as we ahave also forgiven those who sinned against us if we want to be a divine companion
(10:11:14) (Lynn) But it takes time to grow up and acquire wisdom. Something on the order of don´t give a child whiskey.
(10:11:32) (Host-Roz) you have an eternity Lynn
(10:11:33) (Lynn) But when child grows up, father and son can have a drink together.
(10:12:15) (Lynn) don´t want an eternity. I am Scorpio. I want what I want when I want it now. Where is that blessed tree?
(10:12:18) (Host-Roz) so you are not yet bored w/ Old Enoch?
(10:12:42) (WalksInSpirit) Naw, Roz! I like it!
(10:12:44) (LoveInfinity) It would be interesting to hear Edgar's take on the Gospel of Judas
(10:12:47) (Cris) Not at all
(10:12:47) (Host-Roz) want patience and want it right now?
(10:13:10) (Lynn) I keep asking God to give me patience--- yesterday.
(10:13:20) (Qrious) Nope.. I like hearing about it Roz.
(10:13:35) (Host-Roz) well I will be taking a short haitus
(10:13:38) (Lynn) I got something real out of it tonight.
(10:13:59) (Host-Roz) but I plan on hitting the floor in a dead run
(10:14:07) (Julia) not with that knee!
(10:14:11) (Lynn) I´ll bet God might let me astral travel to that tree?
(10:14:19) (Lynn) ?
(10:14:21) (Qrious) newsflash... Judas was gutted and hanged... I think it might be a Plagerized material LoveInfinity.. lol
(10:14:46) (Host-Roz) could be Qrious
(10:14:47) (Julia) at least give it time to heal before you go all bionic on us Roz lol
(10:15:08) (Meg) Roz, you will really do Great
(10:15:13) (Host-Roz) doc said might try short blgs to leap at first
(10:15:21) (Lynn) Q, maybe these bones shall rise again.
(10:15:29) (Qrious) course.. it could be another Judas.. the names are used alot back then I would guess.
(10:15:49) (Julia) cool Roz
(10:15:57) (Meg) Roz, i am sure
(10:22:55) (Meg) what is our homework?
(10:23:01) (Host-Roz) its permisssable to even read the book
(10:23:07) (Qrious) Enoch.. from what was written of him in the New Testament.. was a prophet... I am waiting to see what he will say Roz.
(10:23:07) (Meg) did i miss it
(10:23:18) (Lynn) Enoch teaches us that God does not withhold without reason. We can grow into any knowledge we desire. Just keep to God´s time table and don´t be in a hurry to grow up.
(10:23:21) (Host-Roz) to prepare a short treatise on Enoch so far Meg
(10:27:33) (Qrious) and thankz a heap for the class Roz.. it was a neat visual explanation.
(10:29:11) (Qrious) I forgot what a treatise mean... really..
(10:29:24) (Meg) Roz, pleae explain
(10:29:29) (Cris) an essay and not a short one
(10:29:31) (Host-Roz) you ever get Bill muley?
(10:29:43) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:29:51) (Cris) A complete report
(10:29:52) (Lynn) treatise is a written treatment of the subject, Q.
(10:30:09) (Qrious) so.. what to you have to write about.. just on Enoch.?
(10:30:10) (Julia) oh yay
(10:30:15) (Host-Roz) a full report
(10:30:25) (Meg) ty Chis
(10:30:34) (Lynn) Who says it can´t be short, Cris? Long windedness simply is an illustration of the inability to get to the point. lol
(10:30:46) (Host-Roz) Qrious yu can have prepared anything you want
(10:30:59) (Julia) what do we do with it after we write it?
(10:31:03) (Cris) You n3ver worked for a picky picky editor :o)
(10:31:08) (Qrious) thanks all ov you for the meaning of the words treatise..
(10:31:10) (Host-Roz) as long as its clean
(10:31:12) (Meg) Roz, i would rather give a report on Jesus, i think :)
(10:31:30) (Host-Roz) same dude Meg
(10:31:33) (Lynn) Well, Enoch was an earlier edition of Jesus
(10:31:43) (Julia) according to cayce anyway
(10:31:43) (Meg) lol Roz, i know
(10:31:44) (Qrious) so.. do we do it and turn it in to you like a class homework Roz?
(10:31:56) (Lynn) It took God a while to get to the point. lol
(10:31:59) (Host-Roz) post it in the chat next Sunday nite
(10:32:14) (Host-Roz) exackle Julia
(10:32:16) (Qrious) That would be a snap..
(10:32:17) (Julia) ok
(10:32:51) (Lynn) Cris, I have worked for an editor. And as an editor though small style on the latter.
(10:33:05) (Host-Roz) you may all be so good we'll have it as a regular thing
(11:00:54) (mark) blessings everyone ,...ty Roz
(11:01:12) (Host-Roz) yw Mark thanks for coming
(11:05:43) (Bill) TY Roz L&L
(11:05:48) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All
