Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 15, 2006 21:40:46 GMT -5
Secret Of The Book Of Enoch: 10-15-06
(09:28:26) (Host-Roz) well lets center
(09:28:57) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:29:03) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:29:05) (Cris) Amen
(09:29:13) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:14) (Qrious) ameni
(09:29:16) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:29:23) (merri) Amen
(09:29:40) (Bill) Amen
(09:30:05) (Host-Roz) We realize the Enoch’s time was centuries before this account of the History of the Hebrews. Some accounts seem out of sequence, which was understandable, in that Enoch’s time was in the Atlantean period. His vision is still very acute.
(09:31:02) (Host-Roz) 46 ram which had forsaken its glory. And it went to it and spake to it alone, and raised it to being a ram, and made it the prince and leader of the sheep; but during all these things those dogs( Dogs are Philistines)
(09:31:21) (Host-Roz) feel free to associate any scripture to this study
(09:32:50) (Host-Roz) 47 oppressed the sheep.( Sheep are the faithful )Rams are leaders( Herds are the tribes of Israel )And the first ram pursued that second ram, and that second ram arose and fled before it; and I saw till those dogs pulled48 down the first ram. And that second ram arose
(09:33:41) (Host-Roz) 49 and led the [little] sheep. And those sheep grew and multiplied; but all the dogs, and foxes, and wild boars feared and fled before it, Wild Boars are Esau and his descendants, Edom and Amalek (Gen. 36:15-19, 36:15-16) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians and that ram butted and killed the wild beasts, and those wild beasts had no longer any power among the
(09:34:50) (Host-Roz) 48 sheep and robbed them no more of ought. And that ram begat many sheep and fell asleep; and a little sheep became ram in its stead, and became prince and leader of those sheep.
(09:35:42) (Host-Roz) 50 And that house became great and broad, and it was built for those sheep: (and) a tower lofty and great was built on the house for the Lord of the sheep, and that house was low, but the tower was elevated and lofty, and the Lord of the sheep stood on that tower and they offered a full table before Him.(Tower of Babel )
(09:36:32) (Host-Roz) 51 And again I saw those sheep that they again erred and went many ways, and forsook that their house, and the Lord of the sheep called some from amongst the sheep and sent them to the sheep,
(09:37:03) (Raleigh) i am very interested in these lost books / ty roz / my cafe' is closing / pray i recover completely / very much love to all here /// for assisting to spare my life so i can take over for roz someday / :)
(09:37:57) (Host-Roz) certainly Ral will put you on the prayer list
(09:38:17) (Host-Roz) 52 but the sheep began to slay them. And one of them was saved and was not slain, and it sped away and cried aloud over the sheep; and they sought to slay it, but the Lord of the sheep saved it from
(09:39:28) (Host-Roz) 53 the sheep, and brought it up to me, and caused it to dwell there. And many other sheep He sent to those sheep to testify unto them and lament over them. And after that I saw that when they forsook the house of the Lord and His tower they fell away entirely, and their eyes were blinded; and I saw the Lord of the sheep how He wrought much slaughter amongst them in their herds until
(09:39:31) (Qrious) so the shepherd saved the last sheep huh.
(09:40:06) (Host-Roz) yes saved the remanent
(09:40:47) (Host-Roz) 55 those sheep invited that slaughter and betrayed His place. And He gave them over into the hands of the lions and tigers, and wolves and hyenas, and into the hand of the foxes, and to all the wild)
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians Dogs are Philistines Tigers are Aramites Hyenas are Assyrians Ravens (Crows) are Seleucids (Syrians)
(09:42:31) (Host-Roz) 56 beasts, and those wild beasts began to tear in pieces those sheep. And I saw that He forsook that their house and their tower and gave them all into the hand of the lions, to tear and devour them,
(09:43:12) (lilith) always wondered why Cayce had to say things in such terms - wouldn't it have been just as simple to plain say "who" & "what"??
(09:43:48) (Lynn) It came from a higher plane, perhaps with a different language
(09:44:05) (Lynn) plus, you either think about it or don´t have it. Cayce says DO
(09:44:06) (Richard) Possibly communicating with our subconscious.
(09:44:08) (Host-Roz) yes Lilith but ths was written in the time of the Antlanteans
(09:44:11) (Qrious) this is a Enoch book I think lilith.. not a Cayce one.. I
(09:44:27) (Host-Roz) youre right Qrious
(09:44:34) (Host-Roz) 59 And He called seventy shepherds, and cast those sheep to them that they might pasture them, and He spake to the shepherds and their companions: ' Let each individual of you pasture the sheep
(09:44:42) (Host-Roz) it all symbolic
(09:45:00) (Host-Roz) any clues to the 70 shepherds?
(09:45:16) (Richard) What is it refering to though... A story of their history or our future?
(09:45:20) (Lynn) But Enoch, later as Jesus, evolved, spoke of the Good Shepherd who gave his life for the sheep.
(09:45:44) (Cris) Leaders of different countries?
(09:46:00) (Qrious) sounds like a reference to what Jesus did when he sent out (shepherds).. if you want to call it that.. and charged then with what not to take and what to do when not recieved.
(09:46:11) (Bill) they were all animals in those days i guess
(09:46:17) (Cris) Ministers of the lands of that time
(09:46:25) (Host-Roz) history of the Hebrew Peoples Richard
(09:46:31) (Host-Roz) 60 henceforward, and everything that I shall command you that do ye. And I will deliver them over unto you duly numbered, and tell you which of them are to be destroyed-and them destroy ye.' And
(09:46:36) (lilith) well, very remeniscent of the Lord's prayer
(09:46:40) (Qrious) all the shepherds bailed when Jesus claimed to be the Christ.. but the 12 he hand picked..
(09:46:46) (Richard) From what point in time Roz.
(09:47:09) (Host-Roz) I have found a lot of likeness to some of the actions of the Atlanteans
(09:47:10) (lilith) spelled that wrong - sorry
(09:48:03) (Host-Roz) not sure in time what the Antlantean period was Richard
(09:48:09) (Richard) If it sounds good to me lilith I figure it's just another way to spell it..
(09:49:00) (lilith) of thanx, richard, needed that!
(09:49:04) (Lynn) 70 – represents human leadership and judgment. Moses appointed 70 elders (Exodus 24:1); The Sanhedrin was made up of 70 men. Jesus chose 70 disciples (Luke 10:1). Jesus told Peter to forgive 70 times 7.
(09:49:27) (Host-Roz) oh thanks Lynn good !!
(09:49:33) (Host-Roz) 61 He gave over unto them those sheep. And He called another and spake unto him: ' Observe and mark everything that the shepherds will do to those sheep; for they will destroy
(09:50:13) (Qrious) dang Lynn.. yur'sharp.
(09:50:34) (Lynn) what I have received, I freely give, Q LOL
(09:50:58) (Host-Roz) yup she is
(09:51:03) (Host-Roz) 62 I have commanded them. And every excess and the destruction which will be wrought through the shepherds, record (namely) how many they destroy according to my command, and how many according to their own caprice: record against every individual shepherd all the destruction he63 effects. And read out before me by number how many they destroy, and how many they deliver over for destruction, that I may have this as a testimony against them, and know ever
(09:51:03) (Lynn) ty
(09:51:39) (Host-Roz) God did direct then to slay all
(09:53:03) (Qrious) yep.. God does say to slay.. fraid so.
(09:53:33) (Richard) Can't buy into that anymore... That would suggest that God is dualistic. This God is perhaps the God of this world that Jesus refered to.
(09:53:58) (Host-Roz) 66 those sheep into the hand of the lions. And the lions and tigers eat and devoured the greater part of those sheep,( Tigers are Aramites )and the wild boars eat along with them; and they burnt that tower and demolished
(09:54:36) (Leon) good one Richard
(09:55:11) (Host-Roz) 67 that house. And I became exceedingly sorrowful over that tower because that house of the sheep was demolished, and afterwards I was unable to see if those sheep entered that house.( Destruction of the Tabernacle)
(09:55:52) (Qrious) Just read what Joshua did to Gerico Richard.. or the Egyptians.. during the first passover... kind of thing.. or even when King David sinned.. and God sent and Angel to kill heaps of people.. stuff like that.. their is alot more..
(09:56:42) (Host-Roz) yes Qrious
(09:56:49) (Host-Roz) 68 And the shepherds and their associates delivered over those sheep to all the wild beasts, to devour them, and each one of them received in his time a definite number: it was written by the other 69 in a book how many each one of them destroyed of them. And each one slew and destroyed many
(09:56:58) (Qrious) or even when the Amelakites attacked the tribe of Israel after Moses wanted to pass by with no problems.. stuff like that.
(09:57:34) (Richard) I am familier with what you are saying Q but in light of what Jesus enstructed I can't see God causing that to happen.... that does not meant that there are plenty of forces trying to say that God wants it done.
(09:57:45) (Qrious) Or even what God did to the rebellion during Moses time.. with the Korathites... God buried them alive... when in the tabernacle.. etc..
(09:57:54) (Host-Roz) 70 more than was prescribed; and I began to weep and lament on account of those sheep. And thus in the vision I saw that one who wrote, how he wrote down every one that was destroyed by those shepherds, day by day, and carried up and laid down and showed actually the whole book to the Lord of the sheep-(even) everything that they had done, and all that each one of them had made
(09:58:05) (Host-Roz) akashic Record?
(09:58:23) (Cris) sounds like it
(09:58:57) (Qrious) Jesus said ... I have given them thy Words ... he was refering to what God wanted him to say.. Jesus never spoke of his own accord.. he did his fathers will.. so.. its sorta like that.
(09:58:59) (Host-Roz) 71 away with, and all that they had given over to destruction. And the book was read before the Lord of the sheep, and He took the book from his hand and read it and sealed it and laid it down.Book of Revelation)
(10:00:44) (Host-Roz) 72 And forthwith I saw how the shepherds pastured for twelve hours, and behold three of those sheep turned back and came and entered and began to build up all that had fallen down of that73 house; but the wild boars tried to hinder them, but they were not able. And they began again to build as before, and they reared up that tower, and it was named the high tower; and they began again to place a table before the tower, but all the bread on it was pollute
(10:01:10) (Host-Roz) bread their bodies?
(10:01:36) (Richard) Bread the word of God.
(10:01:48) (Bill) bread knowledge?
(10:02:01) (Richard) Yes.
(10:02:10) (Lynn) symbol bread
(10:03:26) (Host-Roz) they intermingled with the peoples of other tribes who were impure
(10:03:31) (Host-Roz) 74 And as touching all this the eyes of those sheep were blinded so that they saw not, and (the eyes of) their shepherds likewise; and they delivered them in large numbers to their shepherds for 75 destruction, and they trampled the sheep with their feet and devoured them. And the Lord of the sheep(God) remained unmoved till all the sheep were dispersed over the field and mingled with them ( the beasts )
(10:04:05) (Qrious) the shewbread.... the one given God as either the burnt/meal/peace/or sin/trespass offering I would think..
(10:04:33) (Lynn) Christ is to material as wisdom is to knowledge as wine is to bread
(10:04:49) (Host-Roz) and they (i.e. the shepherds) did not save them out of the hand of the beasts. And this one who wrote the book carried it up, and showed it and read it before the Lord of the sheep, and implored Him on their account, and besought Him on their account as he showed Him all the doings
(10:06:22) (Host-Roz) Chapter 90
(10:06:27) (Host-Roz) 1 And I saw till that in this manner thirty-five shepherds undertook the pasturing (of the sheep), and they severally completed their periods as did the first; and others received them into their
(10:07:32) (Host-Roz) 2 hands, to pasture them for their period, each shepherd in his own period. And after that I saw in my vision all the birds of heaven coming, the eagles, the vultures, the kites, the ravens;( Eagles are Macedonians (Greeks) Vultures (possibly bad Ethiopic translation) Foxes are Ammonites and Moabites (Gen. 19:37-38) Lot and Abraham in Sodom and Gomorrah )
(10:08:37) (Host-Roz) 11. then each chose for themselves all the land and Lot journeyed east; thus they separated one brother from the other.Jordan means descender- brought forth from. Lot journeyed for a new awakening
(10:09:35) (Host-Roz) 12, Abram dwelt in the land of Canaan, and lot dwelt in the villages of the plain, thus possessing the land as far as Sodom.
(10:10:44) (Bill) TY Roz L&L Folks
(10:11:20) (Host-Roz) 13. now the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners in the presence of the lord exceedingly.The men of Sodom who were wicked and sinners were those who misused the reproductive power to produce beings who were not in accord with the pattern shown for mans evolvement. The men of Sodom sought to use the reproductive process to turn beasts into sub— humans. This state of manifestation causes the one producing and the one produced to become a unit outside the l
(10:11:50) (Host-Roz) sound like the Antlanteans?
(10:12:40) (Richard) Is that story still out of the book of Enoch?
(10:12:57) (Host-Roz) The manifestation of this misdirected energy reproduced itself, to the end that it must of itself produce the seeds of its destruction. Sodomy is classed today as unlawful, the seeds of the action of misdirected use of the reproductive power, as in Sodom.
(10:14:00) (Qrious) mesopotamian story of Enkidu and Gilgamesh..
(10:15:00) (Host-Roz) misdirection of the repoductive power riings a real bell doesnt it
(10:15:27) (Richard) I agree....
(10:15:38) (Host-Roz) we'll stop there for this evening
(10:15:55) (Host-Roz) yes Richard
(10:16:10) (Richard) OK...
(10:16:33) (Host-Roz) recall some of the Antlanteans created sub humans for slaves
(10:16:54) (Host-Roz) to their own destruction
(10:17:20) (Lory) And scientists are now creating clones. History does have a way of repeating itself, does it not?
(10:17:25) (Qrious) beasts of burden.. I thought it was ..cow or bull like?
(10:17:48) (Lynn) In Hinduism there is a legend of God creating and allowing other souls to create but other souls did not follow God´s molds. God created dog. Man misformed it into many many breeds, etc.
(10:18:35) (Host-Roz) yes we are slow to learn
(10:18:42) (Richard) There is a liklyhood tha some scientist will go the wrong road, but to stop all science... is that right?
(10:19:35) (Lory) No it is not right, Richard, in my opinion. Evolution continues constantly.
(10:19:53) (Lynn) The problem is, is Science used to further spirit . Or to serve lusts? Wine is superior to bread. Blood is necessary for body health. Spirit is superior to matter.
(10:20:06) (Host-Roz) so glad we were blessed w/ such knowledgable ppl tonite
(10:20:19) (Lynn) The motivatin of Science is the important thing.
(10:20:40) (Host-Roz) a big help
(10:20:46) (Cris) The motivation can make or break anything in life
(10:20:59) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:21:07) (Richard) Where ever the Ideal is set towards the high place then the effort to get there is justified perhaps.
(10:21:14) (Lynn) and that was the problem with man forming creatures. Man formed to serve himself not to serve all that is.
(10:21:27) (Host-Roz) we cannot imbue anything with Spirit
(10:21:38) (Lynn) only the material form
(10:21:49) (Lynn) Quantum physics proves all is alive and aware. Check it out.
(10:22:03) (Host-Roz) nor create in God's image
(10:22:08) (Cris) That's true today in the way our elected officals serve themselves not their constituants
(10:22:27) (Host-Roz) not statesmen but politicians
(10:22:29) (Lynn) Exactly, Cris. It is the motivation.
(10:22:55) (Cris) and yet there are a few good politicians
(10:22:56) (Richard) Some of that can be allowed for in the process of learning and growing towards our distiney.
(10:23:13) (Leon) I have my little piece of 'heaven' right here with You
(10:23:26) (Host-Roz) as we all do Leon
(10:23:40) (Lory) And so it is, Leon.
(10:23:59) (Host-Roz) what a gift to be able to have a group where we can discuss this
(10:23:59) (Lynn) We co create children, with God. But they are to be co created for love. Atlantis created for lust and for self alone.
(10:24:27) (Richard) And besides no politician is truely greater then the people that elected him.... There are many good points to make of our system and a diminstration of the wisdom of the many people that have help to build our society.
(10:24:31) (merri) not in the beginning
(10:24:37) (Lynn) Always we need to consider what is for the greatest good of all that is.
(10:24:43) (Host-Roz) self serving sows th seeds of its own destruction
(10:25:11) (Lynn) indeed it does. It separates. It wills less for others. What we will for others returns to us.
(10:25:26) (Host-Roz) if it doesnt serve everyone it serves no one
(10:25:38) (Lynn) Always the greatest good for the greatest number , directed by spirit above the material world.
(10:25:52) (Leon) Often, things start out new and fun and rewarding. Best to keep it at that.
(10:25:59) (Richard) Cayce santioned us as long as we keep to the words written on the Dollar bill.... In God We Trust... and keep to that Ideal we will fair well.
(10:26:11) (Lynn) I don´t thnk communism, which has an apparancy but not a reality of good for all.
(10:26:21) (Host-Roz) and we need to be reminded
(10:26:28) (Lynn) That´s why we must look to Spirit for guidance. above for below
(10:26:44) (Host-Roz) it has been a real pleasure tonite
(10:26:56) (Lynn) I enjoyed this. Hugs, Roz
(10:27:08) (Qrious) thank you for the class Roz
(10:27:11) (Host-Roz) Thanks for your great responses
(10:27:16) (Cris) Thanks for the study tonight Roz
(10:27:31) (Richard) Annuit CCeptis
(10:27:40) (Leon) thank you Roz for being a great host!!!
(10:27:41) (Richard) AS Above so Below.
(10:28:00) (Lory) "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" Thanks Roz. Goodnight all. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:28:04) (Richard) And thank all of you for just being you.
(10:33:59) (WalksInSpirit) Great chat tonight, Roz!
(10:34:06) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you!
(10:34:09) (Richard) Yes it was.
(10:34:12) (Host-Roz) thanks Wis
(10:34:21) (merri) Blessings and thankyou for lesson Roz
(10:34:38) (Host-Roz) you are so welcome
(10:35:43) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All
(10:35:51) (WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Roz!
(10:35:52) (merri) Blessings Roz
(10:35:59) (Host-Roz) tks
(09:28:57) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:29:03) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:29:05) (Cris) Amen
(09:29:13) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:14) (Qrious) ameni
(09:29:16) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:29:23) (merri) Amen
(09:29:40) (Bill) Amen
(09:30:05) (Host-Roz) We realize the Enoch’s time was centuries before this account of the History of the Hebrews. Some accounts seem out of sequence, which was understandable, in that Enoch’s time was in the Atlantean period. His vision is still very acute.
(09:31:02) (Host-Roz) 46 ram which had forsaken its glory. And it went to it and spake to it alone, and raised it to being a ram, and made it the prince and leader of the sheep; but during all these things those dogs( Dogs are Philistines)
(09:31:21) (Host-Roz) feel free to associate any scripture to this study
(09:32:50) (Host-Roz) 47 oppressed the sheep.( Sheep are the faithful )Rams are leaders( Herds are the tribes of Israel )And the first ram pursued that second ram, and that second ram arose and fled before it; and I saw till those dogs pulled48 down the first ram. And that second ram arose
(09:33:41) (Host-Roz) 49 and led the [little] sheep. And those sheep grew and multiplied; but all the dogs, and foxes, and wild boars feared and fled before it, Wild Boars are Esau and his descendants, Edom and Amalek (Gen. 36:15-19, 36:15-16) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians and that ram butted and killed the wild beasts, and those wild beasts had no longer any power among the
(09:34:50) (Host-Roz) 48 sheep and robbed them no more of ought. And that ram begat many sheep and fell asleep; and a little sheep became ram in its stead, and became prince and leader of those sheep.
(09:35:42) (Host-Roz) 50 And that house became great and broad, and it was built for those sheep: (and) a tower lofty and great was built on the house for the Lord of the sheep, and that house was low, but the tower was elevated and lofty, and the Lord of the sheep stood on that tower and they offered a full table before Him.(Tower of Babel )
(09:36:32) (Host-Roz) 51 And again I saw those sheep that they again erred and went many ways, and forsook that their house, and the Lord of the sheep called some from amongst the sheep and sent them to the sheep,
(09:37:03) (Raleigh) i am very interested in these lost books / ty roz / my cafe' is closing / pray i recover completely / very much love to all here /// for assisting to spare my life so i can take over for roz someday / :)
(09:37:57) (Host-Roz) certainly Ral will put you on the prayer list
(09:38:17) (Host-Roz) 52 but the sheep began to slay them. And one of them was saved and was not slain, and it sped away and cried aloud over the sheep; and they sought to slay it, but the Lord of the sheep saved it from
(09:39:28) (Host-Roz) 53 the sheep, and brought it up to me, and caused it to dwell there. And many other sheep He sent to those sheep to testify unto them and lament over them. And after that I saw that when they forsook the house of the Lord and His tower they fell away entirely, and their eyes were blinded; and I saw the Lord of the sheep how He wrought much slaughter amongst them in their herds until
(09:39:31) (Qrious) so the shepherd saved the last sheep huh.
(09:40:06) (Host-Roz) yes saved the remanent
(09:40:47) (Host-Roz) 55 those sheep invited that slaughter and betrayed His place. And He gave them over into the hands of the lions and tigers, and wolves and hyenas, and into the hand of the foxes, and to all the wild)
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians Dogs are Philistines Tigers are Aramites Hyenas are Assyrians Ravens (Crows) are Seleucids (Syrians)
(09:42:31) (Host-Roz) 56 beasts, and those wild beasts began to tear in pieces those sheep. And I saw that He forsook that their house and their tower and gave them all into the hand of the lions, to tear and devour them,
(09:43:12) (lilith) always wondered why Cayce had to say things in such terms - wouldn't it have been just as simple to plain say "who" & "what"??
(09:43:48) (Lynn) It came from a higher plane, perhaps with a different language
(09:44:05) (Lynn) plus, you either think about it or don´t have it. Cayce says DO
(09:44:06) (Richard) Possibly communicating with our subconscious.
(09:44:08) (Host-Roz) yes Lilith but ths was written in the time of the Antlanteans
(09:44:11) (Qrious) this is a Enoch book I think lilith.. not a Cayce one.. I
(09:44:27) (Host-Roz) youre right Qrious
(09:44:34) (Host-Roz) 59 And He called seventy shepherds, and cast those sheep to them that they might pasture them, and He spake to the shepherds and their companions: ' Let each individual of you pasture the sheep
(09:44:42) (Host-Roz) it all symbolic
(09:45:00) (Host-Roz) any clues to the 70 shepherds?
(09:45:16) (Richard) What is it refering to though... A story of their history or our future?
(09:45:20) (Lynn) But Enoch, later as Jesus, evolved, spoke of the Good Shepherd who gave his life for the sheep.
(09:45:44) (Cris) Leaders of different countries?
(09:46:00) (Qrious) sounds like a reference to what Jesus did when he sent out (shepherds).. if you want to call it that.. and charged then with what not to take and what to do when not recieved.
(09:46:11) (Bill) they were all animals in those days i guess
(09:46:17) (Cris) Ministers of the lands of that time
(09:46:25) (Host-Roz) history of the Hebrew Peoples Richard
(09:46:31) (Host-Roz) 60 henceforward, and everything that I shall command you that do ye. And I will deliver them over unto you duly numbered, and tell you which of them are to be destroyed-and them destroy ye.' And
(09:46:36) (lilith) well, very remeniscent of the Lord's prayer
(09:46:40) (Qrious) all the shepherds bailed when Jesus claimed to be the Christ.. but the 12 he hand picked..
(09:46:46) (Richard) From what point in time Roz.
(09:47:09) (Host-Roz) I have found a lot of likeness to some of the actions of the Atlanteans
(09:47:10) (lilith) spelled that wrong - sorry
(09:48:03) (Host-Roz) not sure in time what the Antlantean period was Richard
(09:48:09) (Richard) If it sounds good to me lilith I figure it's just another way to spell it..
(09:49:00) (lilith) of thanx, richard, needed that!
(09:49:04) (Lynn) 70 – represents human leadership and judgment. Moses appointed 70 elders (Exodus 24:1); The Sanhedrin was made up of 70 men. Jesus chose 70 disciples (Luke 10:1). Jesus told Peter to forgive 70 times 7.
(09:49:27) (Host-Roz) oh thanks Lynn good !!
(09:49:33) (Host-Roz) 61 He gave over unto them those sheep. And He called another and spake unto him: ' Observe and mark everything that the shepherds will do to those sheep; for they will destroy
(09:50:13) (Qrious) dang Lynn.. yur'sharp.
(09:50:34) (Lynn) what I have received, I freely give, Q LOL
(09:50:58) (Host-Roz) yup she is
(09:51:03) (Host-Roz) 62 I have commanded them. And every excess and the destruction which will be wrought through the shepherds, record (namely) how many they destroy according to my command, and how many according to their own caprice: record against every individual shepherd all the destruction he63 effects. And read out before me by number how many they destroy, and how many they deliver over for destruction, that I may have this as a testimony against them, and know ever
(09:51:03) (Lynn) ty
(09:51:39) (Host-Roz) God did direct then to slay all
(09:53:03) (Qrious) yep.. God does say to slay.. fraid so.
(09:53:33) (Richard) Can't buy into that anymore... That would suggest that God is dualistic. This God is perhaps the God of this world that Jesus refered to.
(09:53:58) (Host-Roz) 66 those sheep into the hand of the lions. And the lions and tigers eat and devoured the greater part of those sheep,( Tigers are Aramites )and the wild boars eat along with them; and they burnt that tower and demolished
(09:54:36) (Leon) good one Richard
(09:55:11) (Host-Roz) 67 that house. And I became exceedingly sorrowful over that tower because that house of the sheep was demolished, and afterwards I was unable to see if those sheep entered that house.( Destruction of the Tabernacle)
(09:55:52) (Qrious) Just read what Joshua did to Gerico Richard.. or the Egyptians.. during the first passover... kind of thing.. or even when King David sinned.. and God sent and Angel to kill heaps of people.. stuff like that.. their is alot more..
(09:56:42) (Host-Roz) yes Qrious
(09:56:49) (Host-Roz) 68 And the shepherds and their associates delivered over those sheep to all the wild beasts, to devour them, and each one of them received in his time a definite number: it was written by the other 69 in a book how many each one of them destroyed of them. And each one slew and destroyed many
(09:56:58) (Qrious) or even when the Amelakites attacked the tribe of Israel after Moses wanted to pass by with no problems.. stuff like that.
(09:57:34) (Richard) I am familier with what you are saying Q but in light of what Jesus enstructed I can't see God causing that to happen.... that does not meant that there are plenty of forces trying to say that God wants it done.
(09:57:45) (Qrious) Or even what God did to the rebellion during Moses time.. with the Korathites... God buried them alive... when in the tabernacle.. etc..
(09:57:54) (Host-Roz) 70 more than was prescribed; and I began to weep and lament on account of those sheep. And thus in the vision I saw that one who wrote, how he wrote down every one that was destroyed by those shepherds, day by day, and carried up and laid down and showed actually the whole book to the Lord of the sheep-(even) everything that they had done, and all that each one of them had made
(09:58:05) (Host-Roz) akashic Record?
(09:58:23) (Cris) sounds like it
(09:58:57) (Qrious) Jesus said ... I have given them thy Words ... he was refering to what God wanted him to say.. Jesus never spoke of his own accord.. he did his fathers will.. so.. its sorta like that.
(09:58:59) (Host-Roz) 71 away with, and all that they had given over to destruction. And the book was read before the Lord of the sheep, and He took the book from his hand and read it and sealed it and laid it down.Book of Revelation)
(10:00:44) (Host-Roz) 72 And forthwith I saw how the shepherds pastured for twelve hours, and behold three of those sheep turned back and came and entered and began to build up all that had fallen down of that73 house; but the wild boars tried to hinder them, but they were not able. And they began again to build as before, and they reared up that tower, and it was named the high tower; and they began again to place a table before the tower, but all the bread on it was pollute
(10:01:10) (Host-Roz) bread their bodies?
(10:01:36) (Richard) Bread the word of God.
(10:01:48) (Bill) bread knowledge?
(10:02:01) (Richard) Yes.
(10:02:10) (Lynn) symbol bread
(10:03:26) (Host-Roz) they intermingled with the peoples of other tribes who were impure
(10:03:31) (Host-Roz) 74 And as touching all this the eyes of those sheep were blinded so that they saw not, and (the eyes of) their shepherds likewise; and they delivered them in large numbers to their shepherds for 75 destruction, and they trampled the sheep with their feet and devoured them. And the Lord of the sheep(God) remained unmoved till all the sheep were dispersed over the field and mingled with them ( the beasts )
(10:04:05) (Qrious) the shewbread.... the one given God as either the burnt/meal/peace/or sin/trespass offering I would think..
(10:04:33) (Lynn) Christ is to material as wisdom is to knowledge as wine is to bread
(10:04:49) (Host-Roz) and they (i.e. the shepherds) did not save them out of the hand of the beasts. And this one who wrote the book carried it up, and showed it and read it before the Lord of the sheep, and implored Him on their account, and besought Him on their account as he showed Him all the doings
(10:06:22) (Host-Roz) Chapter 90
(10:06:27) (Host-Roz) 1 And I saw till that in this manner thirty-five shepherds undertook the pasturing (of the sheep), and they severally completed their periods as did the first; and others received them into their
(10:07:32) (Host-Roz) 2 hands, to pasture them for their period, each shepherd in his own period. And after that I saw in my vision all the birds of heaven coming, the eagles, the vultures, the kites, the ravens;( Eagles are Macedonians (Greeks) Vultures (possibly bad Ethiopic translation) Foxes are Ammonites and Moabites (Gen. 19:37-38) Lot and Abraham in Sodom and Gomorrah )
(10:08:37) (Host-Roz) 11. then each chose for themselves all the land and Lot journeyed east; thus they separated one brother from the other.Jordan means descender- brought forth from. Lot journeyed for a new awakening
(10:09:35) (Host-Roz) 12, Abram dwelt in the land of Canaan, and lot dwelt in the villages of the plain, thus possessing the land as far as Sodom.
(10:10:44) (Bill) TY Roz L&L Folks
(10:11:20) (Host-Roz) 13. now the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners in the presence of the lord exceedingly.The men of Sodom who were wicked and sinners were those who misused the reproductive power to produce beings who were not in accord with the pattern shown for mans evolvement. The men of Sodom sought to use the reproductive process to turn beasts into sub— humans. This state of manifestation causes the one producing and the one produced to become a unit outside the l
(10:11:50) (Host-Roz) sound like the Antlanteans?
(10:12:40) (Richard) Is that story still out of the book of Enoch?
(10:12:57) (Host-Roz) The manifestation of this misdirected energy reproduced itself, to the end that it must of itself produce the seeds of its destruction. Sodomy is classed today as unlawful, the seeds of the action of misdirected use of the reproductive power, as in Sodom.
(10:14:00) (Qrious) mesopotamian story of Enkidu and Gilgamesh..
(10:15:00) (Host-Roz) misdirection of the repoductive power riings a real bell doesnt it
(10:15:27) (Richard) I agree....
(10:15:38) (Host-Roz) we'll stop there for this evening
(10:15:55) (Host-Roz) yes Richard
(10:16:10) (Richard) OK...
(10:16:33) (Host-Roz) recall some of the Antlanteans created sub humans for slaves
(10:16:54) (Host-Roz) to their own destruction
(10:17:20) (Lory) And scientists are now creating clones. History does have a way of repeating itself, does it not?
(10:17:25) (Qrious) beasts of burden.. I thought it was ..cow or bull like?
(10:17:48) (Lynn) In Hinduism there is a legend of God creating and allowing other souls to create but other souls did not follow God´s molds. God created dog. Man misformed it into many many breeds, etc.
(10:18:35) (Host-Roz) yes we are slow to learn
(10:18:42) (Richard) There is a liklyhood tha some scientist will go the wrong road, but to stop all science... is that right?
(10:19:35) (Lory) No it is not right, Richard, in my opinion. Evolution continues constantly.
(10:19:53) (Lynn) The problem is, is Science used to further spirit . Or to serve lusts? Wine is superior to bread. Blood is necessary for body health. Spirit is superior to matter.
(10:20:06) (Host-Roz) so glad we were blessed w/ such knowledgable ppl tonite
(10:20:19) (Lynn) The motivatin of Science is the important thing.
(10:20:40) (Host-Roz) a big help
(10:20:46) (Cris) The motivation can make or break anything in life
(10:20:59) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:21:07) (Richard) Where ever the Ideal is set towards the high place then the effort to get there is justified perhaps.
(10:21:14) (Lynn) and that was the problem with man forming creatures. Man formed to serve himself not to serve all that is.
(10:21:27) (Host-Roz) we cannot imbue anything with Spirit
(10:21:38) (Lynn) only the material form
(10:21:49) (Lynn) Quantum physics proves all is alive and aware. Check it out.
(10:22:03) (Host-Roz) nor create in God's image
(10:22:08) (Cris) That's true today in the way our elected officals serve themselves not their constituants
(10:22:27) (Host-Roz) not statesmen but politicians
(10:22:29) (Lynn) Exactly, Cris. It is the motivation.
(10:22:55) (Cris) and yet there are a few good politicians
(10:22:56) (Richard) Some of that can be allowed for in the process of learning and growing towards our distiney.
(10:23:13) (Leon) I have my little piece of 'heaven' right here with You
(10:23:26) (Host-Roz) as we all do Leon
(10:23:40) (Lory) And so it is, Leon.
(10:23:59) (Host-Roz) what a gift to be able to have a group where we can discuss this
(10:23:59) (Lynn) We co create children, with God. But they are to be co created for love. Atlantis created for lust and for self alone.
(10:24:27) (Richard) And besides no politician is truely greater then the people that elected him.... There are many good points to make of our system and a diminstration of the wisdom of the many people that have help to build our society.
(10:24:31) (merri) not in the beginning
(10:24:37) (Lynn) Always we need to consider what is for the greatest good of all that is.
(10:24:43) (Host-Roz) self serving sows th seeds of its own destruction
(10:25:11) (Lynn) indeed it does. It separates. It wills less for others. What we will for others returns to us.
(10:25:26) (Host-Roz) if it doesnt serve everyone it serves no one
(10:25:38) (Lynn) Always the greatest good for the greatest number , directed by spirit above the material world.
(10:25:52) (Leon) Often, things start out new and fun and rewarding. Best to keep it at that.
(10:25:59) (Richard) Cayce santioned us as long as we keep to the words written on the Dollar bill.... In God We Trust... and keep to that Ideal we will fair well.
(10:26:11) (Lynn) I don´t thnk communism, which has an apparancy but not a reality of good for all.
(10:26:21) (Host-Roz) and we need to be reminded
(10:26:28) (Lynn) That´s why we must look to Spirit for guidance. above for below
(10:26:44) (Host-Roz) it has been a real pleasure tonite
(10:26:56) (Lynn) I enjoyed this. Hugs, Roz
(10:27:08) (Qrious) thank you for the class Roz
(10:27:11) (Host-Roz) Thanks for your great responses
(10:27:16) (Cris) Thanks for the study tonight Roz
(10:27:31) (Richard) Annuit CCeptis
(10:27:40) (Leon) thank you Roz for being a great host!!!
(10:27:41) (Richard) AS Above so Below.
(10:28:00) (Lory) "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" Thanks Roz. Goodnight all. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:28:04) (Richard) And thank all of you for just being you.
(10:33:59) (WalksInSpirit) Great chat tonight, Roz!
(10:34:06) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you!
(10:34:09) (Richard) Yes it was.
(10:34:12) (Host-Roz) thanks Wis
(10:34:21) (merri) Blessings and thankyou for lesson Roz
(10:34:38) (Host-Roz) you are so welcome
(10:35:43) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All
(10:35:51) (WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Roz!
(10:35:52) (merri) Blessings Roz
(10:35:59) (Host-Roz) tks
