Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 24, 2006 21:31:26 GMT -5
The Secret of The Book of Enoch: 09-24-06
(09:33:00) (Host-Roz-) lets center
(09:33:01) (Cris) Ready
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz-) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:33:43) (Host-Roz-) Amen
(09:33:46) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:54) (merri) Amen
(09:34:11) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:34:20) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:35:11) (Host-Roz-) recall last wk when we had the scripture about the cattle and the symbolism ?
(09:35:22) (merri) yes
(09:35:24) (Host-Roz-) want a review?
(09:35:38) (merri) white cow, black cow, red cow
(09:35:41) (Host-Roz-) we'll catch Rosie up later
(09:35:48) (Host-Roz-) yup Merri
(09:35:53) (Host-Roz-) 1 And again I saw how they began to gore each other and to devour each other, and the earth
(09:35:56) (Rosie) k
(09:36:42) (Host-Roz-) White bull / man is Noah White bull is Shem Red bull is Japheth Black bull is Ham
(09:38:07) (Host-Roz-) Rosie and ernie this is about the story of Noah
(09:38:15) (Host-Roz-) 2 began to cry aloud. And I raised mine eyes again to heaven, and I saw in the vision, and behold there came forth from heaven beings who were like white men: and four went forth from that place
(09:38:58) (Host-Roz-) 3 and three with them. And those three that had last come forth grasped me by my hand and took me up, away from the generations of the earth, and raised me up to a lofty place, and showed me
(09:39:44) (Host-Roz-) 4 a tower raised high above the earth, and all the hills were lower. And one said unto me: 'Remain here till thou seest everything that befalls those elephants, camels, and asses, and the stars and the oxen, and all of them
(09:40:25) (Host-Roz-) Elephants are Giants Camels are Nephilim Asses are Elioud
(09:41:27) (Host-Roz-) The Nefilim were upon the Earth in those days and thereafter too. Those sons of the gods who cohabited with the daughters of the Adam, and they bore children into them. They were the Mighty Ones of Eternity, the People of the Shem."
(09:42:11) (Host-Roz-) the progeny of the fallen angels whe begat the giants
(09:42:55) (Host-Roz-) · Wild Asses are Ishmael, and his descendants including the Midianites (Gen. 16:12, :37:28, Ex. 2:15)
(09:43:16) (Host-Roz-) the beginnings of Islam
(09:43:31) (merri) ohoh!
(09:43:55) (Host-Roz-) LXXXVIII. The Punishment of the Fallen Angels by the Archangels.
(09:46:52) (Host-Roz-) 1 And I saw one of those four who had come forth first, and he seized that first star which had fallen from the heaven, and bound it hand and foot and cast it into an abyss: now that abyss was
(09:47:31) (Host-Roz-) 2 narrow and deep, and horrible and dark. And one of them drew a sword, and gave it to those elephants and camels and asses: then they began to smite each other, and the whole earth quaked
(09:48:20) (Host-Roz-) 3 because of them. And as I was beholding in the vision, lo, one of those four who had come forth stoned (them) from heaven, and gathered and took all the great stars whose privy members were like those of horses, and bound them all hand and foot, and cast them in an abyss of the earth.
(09:48:48) (Host-Roz-) They dont mess around !!!
(09:49:20) (merri) and they still smite each other today!
(09:49:28) (Host-Roz-) Noah1 And one of those four went to that white bull and instructed him in a secret, without his being terrified: he was born a bull and became a man, and built for himself a great vessel and dwelt thereon;
(09:49:39) (ernie) yea and here we all are
(09:49:56) (Host-Roz-) yup been being smote an d smiting to this day
(09:51:04) (Host-Roz-) 2 and three bulls dwelt with him in that vessel and they were covered in. And again I raised mine eyes towards heaven and saw a lofty roof, with seven water torrents thereon, and those torrents
(09:51:35) (Host-Roz-) Leon and Bill this is talking about Noah and his sons
(09:52:15) (Host-Roz-) 3 flowed with much water into an enclosure. And I saw again, and behold fountains were opened on the surface of that great enclosure, and that water began to swell and rise upon the surface,
(09:53:05) (Host-Roz-) 4 and I saw that enclosure till all its surface was covered with water. And the water, the darkness, and mist increased upon it; and as I looked at the height of that water, that water had risen above the height of that enclosure, and was streaming over that enclosure, and it stood upon the earth.
(09:54:11) (Host-Roz-) 5 And all the cattle of that enclosure were gathered together until I saw how they sank and were 6 swallowed up and perished in that water. But that vessel floated on the water, while all the oxen and elephants and camels and asses sank to the bottom with all the animals, so that I could no longer
(09:54:58) (Host-Roz-) 7 see them, and they were not able to escape, (but) perished and sank into the depths. And again I saw in the vision till those water torrents were removed from that high roof, and the chasms
(09:55:50) (Host-Roz-) 8 of the earth were leveled up and other abysses were opened. Then the water began to run down into these, till the earth became visible; but that vessel settled on the earth, and the darkness
(09:56:45) (Host-Roz-) 9 retired and light appeared. But that white bull which had become a man came out of that vessel, and the three bulls with him, and one of those three was white like that bull, and one of them was red as blood, and one black: and that white bull departed from them. White bull / man is Noah, White bull is Shem Red bull is Japheth Black bull is Ham
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz-) any questions or comments?
(09:58:36) (Host-Roz-) 10 And they began to bring forth beasts of the field and birds, so that there arose different genera: lions, tigers, wolves, dogs, hyenas, wild boars, foxes, squirrels, swine, falcons, vultures, kites, eagles, and ravens; and among them was born a white bull. And they began to bite one another; but that white bull which was born amongst them begat a wild ass and a white bull with it, and the
(10:00:14) (Host-Roz-) Wild Boars are Esau and his descendants, Edom and Amalek (Gen. 36:15-19, 36:15-16) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians Dogs are Philistines Tigers are Aramites Hyenas are Assyrians Ravens (Crows) are Seleucids (Syrians)
(10:01:23) (Host-Roz-) · Wild Asses are Ishmael, and his descendants including the Midianites (Gen. 16:12, :37:28, Ex. 2:15)
(10:02:00) (Host-Roz-) 12 wild asses multiplied. But that bull which was born from him begat a black wild boar and a white 13 sheep; and the former begat many boars, but that sheep begat twelve sheep. And when those twelve sheep had grown, they gave up one of them to the asses, and those asses again gave up that sheep to the wolves, and that sheep grew up among the wolves. And the Lord brought the eleven sheep to live with it and to pasture with it among
(10:03:24) (Host-Roz-) · Sheep are the faithful Rams are leaders Herds are the tribes of Israel
(10:03:44) (Host-Roz-) twelve tribes of Israel
(10:04:31) (merri) 11 sheep and 1 wolf?
(10:05:11) (Host-Roz-) exackle Merri
(10:05:43) (Host-Roz-) the the wild asses mulitplied .... Islamic peoples
(10:06:34) (Host-Roz-) lots to foresee
(10:07:12) (Host-Roz-) Enoch was paying his dues
(10:08:20) (Host-Roz-) so this is a cliff hanger until next wk lets see what else he foresaw for us
(10:10:35) (Host-Roz-) generations of Jesus to Enoch
(10:10:40) (Host-Roz-) First, as Amilius, He led - or projected - souls into the earth as thought forms.
(10:11:39) (Host-Roz-) Then He came as Adam, the first physical man, who "fell" in the flesh and thus it became necessary for him to eventually come as the last Adam to show us the way. Thirdly He came as Enoch, who walked with God and was not because God took him.
(10:12:53) (Host-Roz-) Then He came as Melchizedek, the prince of Salem, without father, without mother, without days; he was not born and he did not die. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. Many parallels can be found here with the life of Jesus. According to the readings Melchizedek, as I understand it, had attained the state of mastership such as we find in the so-called Eastern masters
(10:14:14) (Host-Roz-) . In order to save the souls who had become involved in the earth because of his example, he then realized he would have to start all over in the earth and really go through all the trials and tribulations just as every other soul. [As Melchizedek he wrote the Book of Job.]
(10:15:17) (Host-Roz-) He came then as Joseph. We see many parallels here with Jesus. Then He came as Joshua, the medium through which Moses obtained the laws on the mount. Next He came as Jeshua, the scribe, who compiled and rewrote the Biblical record as we have it to that date. Then He came into the earth as Zend [San - Zan?], father of the first Zoroaster, who wrote - the readings say - the Zend Avesta, sacred writings of the Persians.
(10:15:47) (Lissa) Wow
(10:16:24) (Host-Roz-) Until He started over again as Joseph, he had not actually taken on the trials and tribulations of man. He chose, as Melchizedek, to come down into the depths of materiality, and He moved step by step back to the father. Having chosen to do this, it was not possible then for him to get out of the flesh without perfecting himself in the flesh.
(10:17:20) (Host-Roz-) Nothing is said in the story of the prodigal son about how long it took him to return to his father after he had decided he would return.
(10:18:15) (Host-Roz-) Gradually, life after life, here a little, there a little, the soul perfected itself in the earth and, as Jesus, took his spiritualized body back to God, becoming the Christ. According to the Edgar Cayce readings each of us must do the same.
(10:19:06) (ernie) its still going on
(10:19:16) (Host-Roz-) this concludes the study for this evening
(10:19:25) (Host-Roz-) exackle ernie
(10:19:43) (Host-Roz-) questions?
(10:19:53) (Host-Roz-) comments?
(10:20:45) (Cris) Thanks Roz I enjoyed tonight's lesson
(10:21:00) (Host-Roz-) yw Cris
(10:21:03) (ernie) intresting
(10:21:04) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Roz! Great study tonight! I really enjoyed it!
(10:21:12) (Leon) Thank you Roz
(10:21:31) (Lissa) Thank you Rozini
(10:21:32) (Host-Roz-) my pleasure
(10:22:46) (Wanda) Thank you Roz.
(10:25:22) (Host-Roz-) good to see eveyone thanks for coming
(10:25:56) (Rosie) thanks, roz
(10:26:36) (Cheryl) ty, Roz for another wonderful evening;
(09:33:01) (Cris) Ready
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz-) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:33:43) (Host-Roz-) Amen
(09:33:46) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:54) (merri) Amen
(09:34:11) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:34:20) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:35:11) (Host-Roz-) recall last wk when we had the scripture about the cattle and the symbolism ?
(09:35:22) (merri) yes
(09:35:24) (Host-Roz-) want a review?
(09:35:38) (merri) white cow, black cow, red cow
(09:35:41) (Host-Roz-) we'll catch Rosie up later
(09:35:48) (Host-Roz-) yup Merri
(09:35:53) (Host-Roz-) 1 And again I saw how they began to gore each other and to devour each other, and the earth
(09:35:56) (Rosie) k
(09:36:42) (Host-Roz-) White bull / man is Noah White bull is Shem Red bull is Japheth Black bull is Ham
(09:38:07) (Host-Roz-) Rosie and ernie this is about the story of Noah
(09:38:15) (Host-Roz-) 2 began to cry aloud. And I raised mine eyes again to heaven, and I saw in the vision, and behold there came forth from heaven beings who were like white men: and four went forth from that place
(09:38:58) (Host-Roz-) 3 and three with them. And those three that had last come forth grasped me by my hand and took me up, away from the generations of the earth, and raised me up to a lofty place, and showed me
(09:39:44) (Host-Roz-) 4 a tower raised high above the earth, and all the hills were lower. And one said unto me: 'Remain here till thou seest everything that befalls those elephants, camels, and asses, and the stars and the oxen, and all of them
(09:40:25) (Host-Roz-) Elephants are Giants Camels are Nephilim Asses are Elioud
(09:41:27) (Host-Roz-) The Nefilim were upon the Earth in those days and thereafter too. Those sons of the gods who cohabited with the daughters of the Adam, and they bore children into them. They were the Mighty Ones of Eternity, the People of the Shem."
(09:42:11) (Host-Roz-) the progeny of the fallen angels whe begat the giants
(09:42:55) (Host-Roz-) · Wild Asses are Ishmael, and his descendants including the Midianites (Gen. 16:12, :37:28, Ex. 2:15)
(09:43:16) (Host-Roz-) the beginnings of Islam
(09:43:31) (merri) ohoh!
(09:43:55) (Host-Roz-) LXXXVIII. The Punishment of the Fallen Angels by the Archangels.
(09:46:52) (Host-Roz-) 1 And I saw one of those four who had come forth first, and he seized that first star which had fallen from the heaven, and bound it hand and foot and cast it into an abyss: now that abyss was
(09:47:31) (Host-Roz-) 2 narrow and deep, and horrible and dark. And one of them drew a sword, and gave it to those elephants and camels and asses: then they began to smite each other, and the whole earth quaked
(09:48:20) (Host-Roz-) 3 because of them. And as I was beholding in the vision, lo, one of those four who had come forth stoned (them) from heaven, and gathered and took all the great stars whose privy members were like those of horses, and bound them all hand and foot, and cast them in an abyss of the earth.
(09:48:48) (Host-Roz-) They dont mess around !!!
(09:49:20) (merri) and they still smite each other today!
(09:49:28) (Host-Roz-) Noah1 And one of those four went to that white bull and instructed him in a secret, without his being terrified: he was born a bull and became a man, and built for himself a great vessel and dwelt thereon;
(09:49:39) (ernie) yea and here we all are
(09:49:56) (Host-Roz-) yup been being smote an d smiting to this day
(09:51:04) (Host-Roz-) 2 and three bulls dwelt with him in that vessel and they were covered in. And again I raised mine eyes towards heaven and saw a lofty roof, with seven water torrents thereon, and those torrents
(09:51:35) (Host-Roz-) Leon and Bill this is talking about Noah and his sons
(09:52:15) (Host-Roz-) 3 flowed with much water into an enclosure. And I saw again, and behold fountains were opened on the surface of that great enclosure, and that water began to swell and rise upon the surface,
(09:53:05) (Host-Roz-) 4 and I saw that enclosure till all its surface was covered with water. And the water, the darkness, and mist increased upon it; and as I looked at the height of that water, that water had risen above the height of that enclosure, and was streaming over that enclosure, and it stood upon the earth.
(09:54:11) (Host-Roz-) 5 And all the cattle of that enclosure were gathered together until I saw how they sank and were 6 swallowed up and perished in that water. But that vessel floated on the water, while all the oxen and elephants and camels and asses sank to the bottom with all the animals, so that I could no longer
(09:54:58) (Host-Roz-) 7 see them, and they were not able to escape, (but) perished and sank into the depths. And again I saw in the vision till those water torrents were removed from that high roof, and the chasms
(09:55:50) (Host-Roz-) 8 of the earth were leveled up and other abysses were opened. Then the water began to run down into these, till the earth became visible; but that vessel settled on the earth, and the darkness
(09:56:45) (Host-Roz-) 9 retired and light appeared. But that white bull which had become a man came out of that vessel, and the three bulls with him, and one of those three was white like that bull, and one of them was red as blood, and one black: and that white bull departed from them. White bull / man is Noah, White bull is Shem Red bull is Japheth Black bull is Ham
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz-) any questions or comments?
(09:58:36) (Host-Roz-) 10 And they began to bring forth beasts of the field and birds, so that there arose different genera: lions, tigers, wolves, dogs, hyenas, wild boars, foxes, squirrels, swine, falcons, vultures, kites, eagles, and ravens; and among them was born a white bull. And they began to bite one another; but that white bull which was born amongst them begat a wild ass and a white bull with it, and the
(10:00:14) (Host-Roz-) Wild Boars are Esau and his descendants, Edom and Amalek (Gen. 36:15-19, 36:15-16) Bears (Hyenas/Wolves in Ethiopic) are the Egyptians Dogs are Philistines Tigers are Aramites Hyenas are Assyrians Ravens (Crows) are Seleucids (Syrians)
(10:01:23) (Host-Roz-) · Wild Asses are Ishmael, and his descendants including the Midianites (Gen. 16:12, :37:28, Ex. 2:15)
(10:02:00) (Host-Roz-) 12 wild asses multiplied. But that bull which was born from him begat a black wild boar and a white 13 sheep; and the former begat many boars, but that sheep begat twelve sheep. And when those twelve sheep had grown, they gave up one of them to the asses, and those asses again gave up that sheep to the wolves, and that sheep grew up among the wolves. And the Lord brought the eleven sheep to live with it and to pasture with it among
(10:03:24) (Host-Roz-) · Sheep are the faithful Rams are leaders Herds are the tribes of Israel
(10:03:44) (Host-Roz-) twelve tribes of Israel
(10:04:31) (merri) 11 sheep and 1 wolf?
(10:05:11) (Host-Roz-) exackle Merri
(10:05:43) (Host-Roz-) the the wild asses mulitplied .... Islamic peoples
(10:06:34) (Host-Roz-) lots to foresee
(10:07:12) (Host-Roz-) Enoch was paying his dues
(10:08:20) (Host-Roz-) so this is a cliff hanger until next wk lets see what else he foresaw for us
(10:10:35) (Host-Roz-) generations of Jesus to Enoch
(10:10:40) (Host-Roz-) First, as Amilius, He led - or projected - souls into the earth as thought forms.
(10:11:39) (Host-Roz-) Then He came as Adam, the first physical man, who "fell" in the flesh and thus it became necessary for him to eventually come as the last Adam to show us the way. Thirdly He came as Enoch, who walked with God and was not because God took him.
(10:12:53) (Host-Roz-) Then He came as Melchizedek, the prince of Salem, without father, without mother, without days; he was not born and he did not die. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. Many parallels can be found here with the life of Jesus. According to the readings Melchizedek, as I understand it, had attained the state of mastership such as we find in the so-called Eastern masters
(10:14:14) (Host-Roz-) . In order to save the souls who had become involved in the earth because of his example, he then realized he would have to start all over in the earth and really go through all the trials and tribulations just as every other soul. [As Melchizedek he wrote the Book of Job.]
(10:15:17) (Host-Roz-) He came then as Joseph. We see many parallels here with Jesus. Then He came as Joshua, the medium through which Moses obtained the laws on the mount. Next He came as Jeshua, the scribe, who compiled and rewrote the Biblical record as we have it to that date. Then He came into the earth as Zend [San - Zan?], father of the first Zoroaster, who wrote - the readings say - the Zend Avesta, sacred writings of the Persians.
(10:15:47) (Lissa) Wow
(10:16:24) (Host-Roz-) Until He started over again as Joseph, he had not actually taken on the trials and tribulations of man. He chose, as Melchizedek, to come down into the depths of materiality, and He moved step by step back to the father. Having chosen to do this, it was not possible then for him to get out of the flesh without perfecting himself in the flesh.
(10:17:20) (Host-Roz-) Nothing is said in the story of the prodigal son about how long it took him to return to his father after he had decided he would return.
(10:18:15) (Host-Roz-) Gradually, life after life, here a little, there a little, the soul perfected itself in the earth and, as Jesus, took his spiritualized body back to God, becoming the Christ. According to the Edgar Cayce readings each of us must do the same.
(10:19:06) (ernie) its still going on
(10:19:16) (Host-Roz-) this concludes the study for this evening
(10:19:25) (Host-Roz-) exackle ernie
(10:19:43) (Host-Roz-) questions?
(10:19:53) (Host-Roz-) comments?
(10:20:45) (Cris) Thanks Roz I enjoyed tonight's lesson
(10:21:00) (Host-Roz-) yw Cris
(10:21:03) (ernie) intresting
(10:21:04) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Roz! Great study tonight! I really enjoyed it!
(10:21:12) (Leon) Thank you Roz
(10:21:31) (Lissa) Thank you Rozini
(10:21:32) (Host-Roz-) my pleasure
(10:22:46) (Wanda) Thank you Roz.
(10:25:22) (Host-Roz-) good to see eveyone thanks for coming
(10:25:56) (Rosie) thanks, roz
(10:26:36) (Cheryl) ty, Roz for another wonderful evening;
