Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 5, 2006 1:04:18 GMT -5
The Great Migration: 11-04-06
Part Six: Mound Builders & Am. Indians:
Part Six: Mound Builders & Am. Indians:
(09:21:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Tonight will be the final part of our Great migration series. And, it will also be the final Saturday night that I will be your Host.
(09:22:06) (BrightEyes) Ohhhhhhhhhhh
(09:22:32) (mike_trueeagle) wis will b doing other things..an i honor that
(09:22:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But, we will still have our Thursday Afternoon Chat every Thursday Afternoon from 2 - 4 p.m.
(09:22:54) (Cris) We need you WIS
(09:22:57) (cj) what is he going to be doing?
(09:23:19) (mike_trueeagle) i called that...... afternoon delight !
(09:23:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm going to be devoting more time to my music career
(09:23:46) (BrightEyes) wonderful
(09:23:48) (cj) nice
(09:23:58) (mike_trueeagle) an we wish him every sucsess
(09:24:06) (BrightEyes) indeed :o)
(09:24:11) (Cris) yes we do
(09:24:23) (cj) send us an album?
(09:24:31) (Cris) we expect to see your name in lights
(09:25:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm so glad you all are here tonight. And I thank you all for your support throughout this chat series. It has meant more than you know to me to come in here every Saturday night, and see you all here. It made me feel more love than you know, and I really appreciate that from the bottom of my heart.
(09:26:07) (mike_trueeagle) u got it comanche .. all of us .. do well an prosper... follow your dream !
(09:26:50) (merri) We appreciate all the effort you have put into this series for us WIS!
(09:27:16) (Cris) We've learned a lot from it
(09:27:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yall are welcome! I have learned a lot from it, too!
(09:28:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thanks Mike! I appreciate all the support!
(09:29:04) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Well, if yall are ready, we'll get rolling!
(09:29:33) (BrightEyes) k :o)
(09:29:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mike, would you do the honors of starting us off with prayer tonight?
(09:29:37) (mike_trueeagle) allways john
(09:29:51) (mike_trueeagle) r father in heven
(09:29:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thanks Buddy
(09:30:14) (mike_trueeagle) pleac watch over us .. an help those in need ..
(09:30:36) (mike_trueeagle) in your name .. alllways..... AMEN ^I6
(09:30:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:45) (merri) Amen
(09:30:47) (BrightEyes) amen
(09:30:49) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:52) (mike_trueeagle) ^I^
(09:32:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, picking up from last week:
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Kootenay Indians of Washington and British Columbia have a legend stating that their forefathers came to America from “The Land Of The Sun.”
(09:32:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Land Of The Sun” and “Empire Of The Sun” were common names of Mu before its submergence, Col. James Churchward postulates, and cites the fact that on a ceremonial dress of the Kootenays he saw, not only the alphabetical symbol of Mu, but the eight-rayed sun symbol, the central figure of Mu’s escutcheon.
(09:33:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was in that land now known as Mu, or the vanished land of the Pacific, the Peaceful… and was among those that journeyed from Mu to what is NOW Oregon;
(09:33:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) and there STILL may be seen SOMETHING of the worship as set up, in what was the development FROM that set up by the entity's associates, as the totem or the family tree.
(09:34:03) (BrightEyes) very interesting
(09:34:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In that experience the entity was in the same sex as at present, but among those that were the leaders; for THEN the women RULED - rather than men.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 630-2
(09:34:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In contrast to this presumed evidence of origin are legends of other North American Indians, several tribes claiming to have come from land “toward the sun rising.”
(09:34:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Iowa and Dakota Indians believed that all the tribes had at one time lived on an island that was to the east, which might be construed as meaning they had come from one of the islands of Atlantis.
(09:35:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) However they came, and from which direction, the Indians of the Americas soon overcame the change of location and began to use their own innate knowledge and ingenuity in adapting themselves to their new surroundings.
(09:35:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With some people the memory of another time seemed to survive for long periods, as with the Mandans, who preserved an image of the Ark and venerated it during a forty-day ceremonial period.
(09:35:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They lived in houses in fortified villages, according to George Catlin, one of the early students of the American Indian, and many of them were blue-eyed people with fair hair.
(09:36:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They had circles of stones for their hearths, made blue beads, such as the Welsh made, and included fifty words of pure Welsh and more than a hundred words of near Welsh in their vocabulary.
(09:36:31) (BrightEyes) very interesting
(09:36:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico the cliff dwellings and other ancient ruins speak of a people who inhabited that section of the United States for a long period of time, and eventually drifted on or gradually became extinct.
(09:37:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The breaking up of islands in the South Seas, and changes caused by these catastrophes, is mentioned in another life reading.
(09:37:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “We find the entity was in the land of the present nativity during those periods when there was the breaking up of the islands in now the South Seas, and the combinations of those that made for the changes in those environments of those peoples.
(09:37:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity then was among those first that have become known as the cave or cliff dwellers, in that portion now known as Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico. In those environs and places did the entity make for its activities, in the name then Un-nn.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1252-1
(09:37:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Navajo People of the Four Corners country, (Arizona, Colorado, Utah and New Mexico have a common “corner”) call these former residents the Anasazi, or Ancient Ones. The Anasazi took advantage of the natural shelter afforded by caves, often in inaccessible canyons like Canyon de Chelly;
(09:38:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) or built along streams like the Chaco Canyon Waterway in New Mexico, where ruins of Pueblo Bonito (Beautiful House) attest to their industry and artistic ability in building this complex of rooms, patios, and kivas, their underground meeting places.
(09:38:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mesa Verde in Colorado, Casa Blanca, the Mummy Cave Dwelling, Montezuma’s Castle, Betatakin and Keet Seel, in Arizona, are also well preserved ruins of the Ancient Ones.
(09:39:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the one before this we find the entity was among those first in that country now known as the Southwest, and among those who became the first cliff dwellers.
(09:39:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then in the name Udijhld, and the entity gave much in assistance to ALL peoples in that day, for the earthenware, that pieces of same may still be seen, though in earth's years was thousands and thousands of years ago,
(09:39:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) these were of that material that still remains, and the love of art in this manner is innate in the entity.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4805-1
(09:40:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Col. James Churchward, in “The Sacred Symbols Of Mu,” insists that these cliff dwelling Indians were once residents of Mu, and are ancestors of the present Pueblo peoples who now live in some of those same areas, notably Arizona and New Mexico.
(09:40:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He says that when they came to America, they were a highly educated and civilized race. Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions had destroyed their cities, burying people and buildings.
(09:40:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The mountains were thrust upward and a few of the first contingent of settlers from Mu escaped the catastrophes, he states.
(09:41:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward is of the opinion that many of the Pueblos’ present day words can be traced to Mu’s vocabulary.
(09:41:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hopi legends are to the effect that this tribe of sturdy, farming Indians came to the Southwest section of the United States from the west after their “third world” was destroyed by flood.
(09:41:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They traveled on rafts of bamboo until they came to a wall of steep mountains. As they looked back they could see the islands sinking behind them. Some of the people, so the legend goes, stopped in tropical countries and built stone cities, others kept on searching for the two rivers that would mark the boundaries of their new homeland.
(09:42:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Eventually, they came to the country bounded by the Colorado and Rio Grande Rivers and there they began constructing, on jutting mesas of rimrock, their stone villages. It was a vast and arid plateau, but they were not daunted.
(09:42:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They planted their little cornfields at the edges of rain-preserving sand dunes, instituted a beautiful culture pattern that was interwoven with their ceremonial calendar, and lived a closely knit, clan-oriented life until the coming of the Spanish Conquistadors in 1540.
(09:42:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Early though the Hopi People were, the Hohokam were earlier, according to archeologists who have examined remains of their villages along the Gila River and elsewhere in Arizona.
(09:43:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Hohokams were of a farming culture that lasted from several centuries before Christ to 1400 – 1500 A.D. and are said to have been the first tribe to have made permanent settlements in the southwestern desert.
(09:43:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1934 Harold S. Gladwin, Director of the Gila Pueblo Archeological Foundation, uncovered a great area of mounds and slopes within the Pima Indian Reservation. It was dubbed Snaketown and in it was found a ball court much like those discovered in various ancient sites in Mexico;
(09:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) also found there was a platform mound which may have been used for religious rituals or dancing.
(09:44:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The life readings of Edgar Cayce describing past lives on prehistoric continents, and involvement in civilizations and religions vanished in dim yesterdays, present bits and pieces of a picture of a great migration.
(09:44:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Both South America and North America presented havens for refugees who, many thousands of years ago, left imprints that mystify the mind of modern man. Buried, perhaps for eons, are the secrets of the mounds, the rites of the temples, the mechanical skill of pre-historic architects.
(09:44:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yet hidden in the legends and rituals of the Indians lie perhaps the secrets of the Children Of the Law Of One. A Reading excerpt reminds us of their great heritage.
(09:45:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For, the peoples then understood - even better than they do today - how that the heavens declare the glory of God, and as to how nature SINGS His praises in the rebirth at each period, each cycle, for its unfoldment and growth; as manifested in entities that are - as man - a manifestation of HIS love in the earth.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2438-1
(09:45:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) **Recommended Book**
(09:45:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Moundbuilders
(09:46:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gregory L. Little, Ed.D.; John Van Auken; and Lora Little, Ed.D.
(09:46:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Paperback - 295 pgs
(09:46:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Beginning in 1997, excavations uncovered solid evidence that ancient America was settled at least 50,000 years ago--with evidence that waves of migrations came not only from China and Japan but also the Middle East and mysterious locations between America and Europe.
(09:46:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edgar Cayce gave more than sixty readings on the topic of America's "Mound Builders". These readings are explored in the context of recent archaeological discoveries and revealed to be incredibly accurate. Well-documented, heavily illustrated, and daringly controversial.
(09:47:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This concludes "The Great Migration" series.
(09:47:34) (Bill) all ready?
(09:47:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep!
(09:47:40) (Cris) I really appreciate you doing the series for us WIS
(09:47:56) (Bill) i was just drifting back in time here!
(09:48:00) (merri) wonderful topic WIS!
(09:48:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) yall are very welcome, Cris! I've learned a lot myself doin this topic!
(09:48:42) (BrightEyes) thank you WIS
(09:48:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It's all on the message board, Bill! I highly recommend the part on Col. Churchward's discoveries.
(09:49:26) (merri) has he written other books WIS
(09:50:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep. Col. Churchward has a few books out there. One was on the ancient symbols of Mu.
(09:50:07) (BrightEyes) the Welsh words you mentioned... who used them?
(09:50:08) (Bill) i have his book called The Children of Mu
(09:50:17) (Cris) I know I'm probably ordering that book
(09:50:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Right, Bill. That was one. What did you think of it?
(09:50:38) (Bill) and The lost Continent of Mu
(09:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That was the Mandan Indians, BE
(09:51:13) (BrightEyes) ty
(09:51:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They were the tribe that was said to be blonde haired and blue-eyed
(09:51:56) (Bill) lots of info but ChurchWard drives me nuts with details that may or maynot pertain to the subject directly
(09:52:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And made a particular kind of blue bead that the Welsh also made.
(09:52:29) (BrightEyes) wow
(09:52:38) (Cris) A friend of mine was regressed some years back and found herself as a blue eyed indian she thought it must have been a mistake
(09:53:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill! He does throw some in there, but he will eventually draw them all together after a while! I saw that after reading some of his material!
(09:53:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Wow, Cris! She might have well been a Mandan!
(09:54:21) (Bill) The Romance of Atlantis by Taylor Cadwell is an easy reading book best suited for the ladys maybe
(09:54:47) (merri) why is that Bill?
(09:55:08) (Bill) because Cadwells books are floery :o)
(09:55:15) (Bill) flowery
(09:55:47) (Bill) eg. the emeral deep blue argenta sky
(09:55:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm still working on my Lemuria & Atlantis Maps Section for Red Path. It will have a timeline that will put everything in perspective. I have too many irons in the fire! LOL I hope to have it completed sometime next week, maybe.
(09:56:06) (merri) personally I find that kind of book boring
(09:56:27) (Cris) So do I give me facts
(09:57:14) (Bill) lots of info in her books that others fail to write more facts than trying to convince you they have the ansers
(09:57:16) (BrightEyes) i liked The Romance of Atlantis
(09:57:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I had hoped to have it completed before the end of this chat series, but oh well! lol
(09:57:57) (merri) will look forward to seeing the map WIS
(09:58:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I have several maps of Lemuria and Atlantis. One of the Lemuria maps is so detailed, it has the name of cities on it!
(09:59:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Supposedly, they came from some codeces found in the East
(09:59:19) (merri) WoW! Where did you find them?
(09:59:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We covered them in Churchward's material
(09:59:31) (Cris) Those would be wonderful to see
(09:59:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gosh, I forgot now! LOL
(10:00:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I looked at so many map sites trying to find the best ones
(10:00:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) These are the best of the best
(10:00:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And the Atlantis map shows areas and their names
(10:01:18) (Bill) all we have to do now is find out where Atalntis was :o)
(10:01:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I suspect, "Poseidia" was not another name for Atlantis itself, but an area of Atlantis, based on the old map I have.
(10:02:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It is near some mountains, so it was most likely left above water as an island after the first of the inundations, and was then called Island Of Poseidia.
(10:03:01) (mike_trueeagle) i think it is were cayce said.. bimini
(10:03:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is my theory, based on the map.
(10:03:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And on the Readings
(10:03:40) (Bill) could be Mike but ARE people have failed to find a shred of evidence so far
(10:04:03) (mike_trueeagle) well not so .. there is the bimini road
(10:04:31) (mike_trueeagle) som say its a submurged wall
(10:05:00) (merri) there are a large group of scientist who say it is not a road mike
(10:05:00) (Bill) well then i've seen every trip they've made so far because there all on tape as documentarys you can get and see for yourself and they admit to finding nothing
(10:05:41) (mike_trueeagle) yea . well they can b wrong .. im wit cayce
(10:05:42) (Cris) I think they know more than they are telling
(10:05:57) (Richard) The main evidence came with Cayce himself... The bits that we are redicovering in the world merely authenticates the source.
(10:06:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We know the Littles personally. They are good people, but Greg tends to be more science-minded and not so inclined to go along with Cayce as some might think. I believe that is part of the reason they have not found anything yet. Because Greg has certain places he *thinks* and science says Atlantis should be, while Cayce says otherwise.
(10:06:10) (mike_trueeagle) we hav been kept in the dark so long
(10:07:06) (Bill) thye've pulled cameras over every inche of the floor of the sea around there and so far nothing
(10:07:21) (Cris) There are a lot of reasons for not admiting Atlantis and other earlier places did exist
(10:07:22) (mike_trueeagle) here it is the 21centrey . an its like we r still in the dark ages !
(10:07:32) (Richard) Still much to be said about the site off
(10:07:37) (Richard) Cuba.
(10:07:45) (Bill) by the Cayces researchers Cris??
(10:07:53) (mike_trueeagle) right cris
(10:08:26) (mike_trueeagle) r goverment knows a lot more then ther telling!
(10:08:26) (Cris) Part of it is power control there are people still searching for the great crystal
(10:08:29) (BrightEyes) Peter V was talking about this a while ago, right?
(10:08:52) (Cris) I know of a diver that was paid for his silence
(10:08:52) (merri) right BE
(10:09:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, and one man named Brown found it.
(10:09:21) (Richard) I am convinced it is the Source, which must be the complete spirit or Wholly Spirit that is the prime director.
(10:09:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It even still had the ruby attached to it.
(10:09:33) (Wanda) found the great crystal?
(10:09:51) (mike_trueeagle) jus like we r alone in the una verse.. .. yea right !
(10:09:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We did a chat on it a while back.
(10:10:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Wanda
(10:10:27) (merri) what'd they do with it
(10:10:38) (merri) where is it now
(10:10:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It's still underwater
(10:10:46) (Wanda) what did they do with it. Is it hidden
(10:10:52) (Bill) threw it in the ocean and created the burmuda triangle :o)
(10:10:55) (merri) why
(10:10:59) (BrightEyes) hee hee hee
(10:11:06) (merri) LOL
(10:11:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The main part of it was too big to raise.
(10:11:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Seems like he did get the ruby off of it, though
(10:11:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Don't quote me on that. I'd have to read that article again.
(10:12:03) (Richard) I would like to hear more about that WIS...
(10:12:08) (merri) bigger than a ship?
(10:12:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But yes, it is in the Bermuda Triangle
(10:12:25) (Wanda) I would like to know more too
(10:12:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He said it would fill a large room.
(10:12:50) (merri) they raise ocean liners why couldn't they raise a crystal?
(10:12:58) (Richard) I feel that I was with the Crystal when the inundations occured.
(10:13:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I could pull up that article, if yall want me to?
(10:13:17) (Bill) hard to but an airbag in a crystral
(10:13:22) (Richard) I'd like that.
(10:13:59) (merri) how about surrounding it with airbags Bill
(10:14:26) (Richard) There may be a problem removing it from it's grid.
(10:14:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, just a sec
(10:14:41) (Bill) Merri if it was there i'm sure it wouldn't be long before someone would have it on board
(10:14:56) (merri) exactly!
(10:15:19) (Wanda) Seems like it would be big time news
(10:15:42) (Richard) Bigger then a homosexual preacher.
(10:16:03) (Bill) that broke his organ on a him?
(10:16:13) (Richard) Had to throw that in there.
(10:16:13) (Bill) oops hym
(10:16:16) (merri) LOL
(10:16:26) (merri) naughty Bill!!!
(10:16:49) (Bill) can't help it Merri :o)
(10:17:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, found it!
(10:17:14) (mike_trueeagle) k wis
(09:22:06) (BrightEyes) Ohhhhhhhhhhh
(09:22:32) (mike_trueeagle) wis will b doing other things..an i honor that
(09:22:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But, we will still have our Thursday Afternoon Chat every Thursday Afternoon from 2 - 4 p.m.
(09:22:54) (Cris) We need you WIS
(09:22:57) (cj) what is he going to be doing?
(09:23:19) (mike_trueeagle) i called that...... afternoon delight !
(09:23:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm going to be devoting more time to my music career
(09:23:46) (BrightEyes) wonderful
(09:23:48) (cj) nice
(09:23:58) (mike_trueeagle) an we wish him every sucsess
(09:24:06) (BrightEyes) indeed :o)
(09:24:11) (Cris) yes we do
(09:24:23) (cj) send us an album?
(09:24:31) (Cris) we expect to see your name in lights
(09:25:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm so glad you all are here tonight. And I thank you all for your support throughout this chat series. It has meant more than you know to me to come in here every Saturday night, and see you all here. It made me feel more love than you know, and I really appreciate that from the bottom of my heart.
(09:26:07) (mike_trueeagle) u got it comanche .. all of us .. do well an prosper... follow your dream !
(09:26:50) (merri) We appreciate all the effort you have put into this series for us WIS!
(09:27:16) (Cris) We've learned a lot from it
(09:27:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yall are welcome! I have learned a lot from it, too!
(09:28:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thanks Mike! I appreciate all the support!
(09:29:04) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Well, if yall are ready, we'll get rolling!
(09:29:33) (BrightEyes) k :o)
(09:29:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mike, would you do the honors of starting us off with prayer tonight?
(09:29:37) (mike_trueeagle) allways john
(09:29:51) (mike_trueeagle) r father in heven
(09:29:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thanks Buddy
(09:30:14) (mike_trueeagle) pleac watch over us .. an help those in need ..
(09:30:36) (mike_trueeagle) in your name .. alllways..... AMEN ^I6
(09:30:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:45) (merri) Amen
(09:30:47) (BrightEyes) amen
(09:30:49) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:52) (mike_trueeagle) ^I^
(09:32:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, picking up from last week:
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Kootenay Indians of Washington and British Columbia have a legend stating that their forefathers came to America from “The Land Of The Sun.”
(09:32:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Land Of The Sun” and “Empire Of The Sun” were common names of Mu before its submergence, Col. James Churchward postulates, and cites the fact that on a ceremonial dress of the Kootenays he saw, not only the alphabetical symbol of Mu, but the eight-rayed sun symbol, the central figure of Mu’s escutcheon.
(09:33:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was in that land now known as Mu, or the vanished land of the Pacific, the Peaceful… and was among those that journeyed from Mu to what is NOW Oregon;
(09:33:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) and there STILL may be seen SOMETHING of the worship as set up, in what was the development FROM that set up by the entity's associates, as the totem or the family tree.
(09:34:03) (BrightEyes) very interesting
(09:34:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In that experience the entity was in the same sex as at present, but among those that were the leaders; for THEN the women RULED - rather than men.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 630-2
(09:34:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In contrast to this presumed evidence of origin are legends of other North American Indians, several tribes claiming to have come from land “toward the sun rising.”
(09:34:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Iowa and Dakota Indians believed that all the tribes had at one time lived on an island that was to the east, which might be construed as meaning they had come from one of the islands of Atlantis.
(09:35:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) However they came, and from which direction, the Indians of the Americas soon overcame the change of location and began to use their own innate knowledge and ingenuity in adapting themselves to their new surroundings.
(09:35:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With some people the memory of another time seemed to survive for long periods, as with the Mandans, who preserved an image of the Ark and venerated it during a forty-day ceremonial period.
(09:35:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They lived in houses in fortified villages, according to George Catlin, one of the early students of the American Indian, and many of them were blue-eyed people with fair hair.
(09:36:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They had circles of stones for their hearths, made blue beads, such as the Welsh made, and included fifty words of pure Welsh and more than a hundred words of near Welsh in their vocabulary.
(09:36:31) (BrightEyes) very interesting
(09:36:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico the cliff dwellings and other ancient ruins speak of a people who inhabited that section of the United States for a long period of time, and eventually drifted on or gradually became extinct.
(09:37:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The breaking up of islands in the South Seas, and changes caused by these catastrophes, is mentioned in another life reading.
(09:37:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “We find the entity was in the land of the present nativity during those periods when there was the breaking up of the islands in now the South Seas, and the combinations of those that made for the changes in those environments of those peoples.
(09:37:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity then was among those first that have become known as the cave or cliff dwellers, in that portion now known as Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico. In those environs and places did the entity make for its activities, in the name then Un-nn.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1252-1
(09:37:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Navajo People of the Four Corners country, (Arizona, Colorado, Utah and New Mexico have a common “corner”) call these former residents the Anasazi, or Ancient Ones. The Anasazi took advantage of the natural shelter afforded by caves, often in inaccessible canyons like Canyon de Chelly;
(09:38:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) or built along streams like the Chaco Canyon Waterway in New Mexico, where ruins of Pueblo Bonito (Beautiful House) attest to their industry and artistic ability in building this complex of rooms, patios, and kivas, their underground meeting places.
(09:38:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mesa Verde in Colorado, Casa Blanca, the Mummy Cave Dwelling, Montezuma’s Castle, Betatakin and Keet Seel, in Arizona, are also well preserved ruins of the Ancient Ones.
(09:39:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the one before this we find the entity was among those first in that country now known as the Southwest, and among those who became the first cliff dwellers.
(09:39:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then in the name Udijhld, and the entity gave much in assistance to ALL peoples in that day, for the earthenware, that pieces of same may still be seen, though in earth's years was thousands and thousands of years ago,
(09:39:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) these were of that material that still remains, and the love of art in this manner is innate in the entity.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4805-1
(09:40:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Col. James Churchward, in “The Sacred Symbols Of Mu,” insists that these cliff dwelling Indians were once residents of Mu, and are ancestors of the present Pueblo peoples who now live in some of those same areas, notably Arizona and New Mexico.
(09:40:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He says that when they came to America, they were a highly educated and civilized race. Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions had destroyed their cities, burying people and buildings.
(09:40:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The mountains were thrust upward and a few of the first contingent of settlers from Mu escaped the catastrophes, he states.
(09:41:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward is of the opinion that many of the Pueblos’ present day words can be traced to Mu’s vocabulary.
(09:41:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hopi legends are to the effect that this tribe of sturdy, farming Indians came to the Southwest section of the United States from the west after their “third world” was destroyed by flood.
(09:41:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They traveled on rafts of bamboo until they came to a wall of steep mountains. As they looked back they could see the islands sinking behind them. Some of the people, so the legend goes, stopped in tropical countries and built stone cities, others kept on searching for the two rivers that would mark the boundaries of their new homeland.
(09:42:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Eventually, they came to the country bounded by the Colorado and Rio Grande Rivers and there they began constructing, on jutting mesas of rimrock, their stone villages. It was a vast and arid plateau, but they were not daunted.
(09:42:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They planted their little cornfields at the edges of rain-preserving sand dunes, instituted a beautiful culture pattern that was interwoven with their ceremonial calendar, and lived a closely knit, clan-oriented life until the coming of the Spanish Conquistadors in 1540.
(09:42:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Early though the Hopi People were, the Hohokam were earlier, according to archeologists who have examined remains of their villages along the Gila River and elsewhere in Arizona.
(09:43:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Hohokams were of a farming culture that lasted from several centuries before Christ to 1400 – 1500 A.D. and are said to have been the first tribe to have made permanent settlements in the southwestern desert.
(09:43:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1934 Harold S. Gladwin, Director of the Gila Pueblo Archeological Foundation, uncovered a great area of mounds and slopes within the Pima Indian Reservation. It was dubbed Snaketown and in it was found a ball court much like those discovered in various ancient sites in Mexico;
(09:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) also found there was a platform mound which may have been used for religious rituals or dancing.
(09:44:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The life readings of Edgar Cayce describing past lives on prehistoric continents, and involvement in civilizations and religions vanished in dim yesterdays, present bits and pieces of a picture of a great migration.
(09:44:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Both South America and North America presented havens for refugees who, many thousands of years ago, left imprints that mystify the mind of modern man. Buried, perhaps for eons, are the secrets of the mounds, the rites of the temples, the mechanical skill of pre-historic architects.
(09:44:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yet hidden in the legends and rituals of the Indians lie perhaps the secrets of the Children Of the Law Of One. A Reading excerpt reminds us of their great heritage.
(09:45:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For, the peoples then understood - even better than they do today - how that the heavens declare the glory of God, and as to how nature SINGS His praises in the rebirth at each period, each cycle, for its unfoldment and growth; as manifested in entities that are - as man - a manifestation of HIS love in the earth.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2438-1
(09:45:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) **Recommended Book**
(09:45:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Moundbuilders
(09:46:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gregory L. Little, Ed.D.; John Van Auken; and Lora Little, Ed.D.
(09:46:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Paperback - 295 pgs
(09:46:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Beginning in 1997, excavations uncovered solid evidence that ancient America was settled at least 50,000 years ago--with evidence that waves of migrations came not only from China and Japan but also the Middle East and mysterious locations between America and Europe.
(09:46:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edgar Cayce gave more than sixty readings on the topic of America's "Mound Builders". These readings are explored in the context of recent archaeological discoveries and revealed to be incredibly accurate. Well-documented, heavily illustrated, and daringly controversial.
(09:47:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This concludes "The Great Migration" series.
(09:47:34) (Bill) all ready?
(09:47:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep!
(09:47:40) (Cris) I really appreciate you doing the series for us WIS
(09:47:56) (Bill) i was just drifting back in time here!
(09:48:00) (merri) wonderful topic WIS!
(09:48:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) yall are very welcome, Cris! I've learned a lot myself doin this topic!
(09:48:42) (BrightEyes) thank you WIS
(09:48:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It's all on the message board, Bill! I highly recommend the part on Col. Churchward's discoveries.
(09:49:26) (merri) has he written other books WIS
(09:50:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep. Col. Churchward has a few books out there. One was on the ancient symbols of Mu.
(09:50:07) (BrightEyes) the Welsh words you mentioned... who used them?
(09:50:08) (Bill) i have his book called The Children of Mu
(09:50:17) (Cris) I know I'm probably ordering that book
(09:50:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Right, Bill. That was one. What did you think of it?
(09:50:38) (Bill) and The lost Continent of Mu
(09:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That was the Mandan Indians, BE
(09:51:13) (BrightEyes) ty
(09:51:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They were the tribe that was said to be blonde haired and blue-eyed
(09:51:56) (Bill) lots of info but ChurchWard drives me nuts with details that may or maynot pertain to the subject directly
(09:52:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And made a particular kind of blue bead that the Welsh also made.
(09:52:29) (BrightEyes) wow
(09:52:38) (Cris) A friend of mine was regressed some years back and found herself as a blue eyed indian she thought it must have been a mistake
(09:53:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill! He does throw some in there, but he will eventually draw them all together after a while! I saw that after reading some of his material!
(09:53:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Wow, Cris! She might have well been a Mandan!
(09:54:21) (Bill) The Romance of Atlantis by Taylor Cadwell is an easy reading book best suited for the ladys maybe
(09:54:47) (merri) why is that Bill?
(09:55:08) (Bill) because Cadwells books are floery :o)
(09:55:15) (Bill) flowery
(09:55:47) (Bill) eg. the emeral deep blue argenta sky
(09:55:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm still working on my Lemuria & Atlantis Maps Section for Red Path. It will have a timeline that will put everything in perspective. I have too many irons in the fire! LOL I hope to have it completed sometime next week, maybe.
(09:56:06) (merri) personally I find that kind of book boring
(09:56:27) (Cris) So do I give me facts
(09:57:14) (Bill) lots of info in her books that others fail to write more facts than trying to convince you they have the ansers
(09:57:16) (BrightEyes) i liked The Romance of Atlantis
(09:57:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I had hoped to have it completed before the end of this chat series, but oh well! lol
(09:57:57) (merri) will look forward to seeing the map WIS
(09:58:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I have several maps of Lemuria and Atlantis. One of the Lemuria maps is so detailed, it has the name of cities on it!
(09:59:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Supposedly, they came from some codeces found in the East
(09:59:19) (merri) WoW! Where did you find them?
(09:59:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We covered them in Churchward's material
(09:59:31) (Cris) Those would be wonderful to see
(09:59:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gosh, I forgot now! LOL
(10:00:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I looked at so many map sites trying to find the best ones
(10:00:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) These are the best of the best
(10:00:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And the Atlantis map shows areas and their names
(10:01:18) (Bill) all we have to do now is find out where Atalntis was :o)
(10:01:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I suspect, "Poseidia" was not another name for Atlantis itself, but an area of Atlantis, based on the old map I have.
(10:02:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It is near some mountains, so it was most likely left above water as an island after the first of the inundations, and was then called Island Of Poseidia.
(10:03:01) (mike_trueeagle) i think it is were cayce said.. bimini
(10:03:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is my theory, based on the map.
(10:03:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And on the Readings
(10:03:40) (Bill) could be Mike but ARE people have failed to find a shred of evidence so far
(10:04:03) (mike_trueeagle) well not so .. there is the bimini road
(10:04:31) (mike_trueeagle) som say its a submurged wall
(10:05:00) (merri) there are a large group of scientist who say it is not a road mike
(10:05:00) (Bill) well then i've seen every trip they've made so far because there all on tape as documentarys you can get and see for yourself and they admit to finding nothing
(10:05:41) (mike_trueeagle) yea . well they can b wrong .. im wit cayce
(10:05:42) (Cris) I think they know more than they are telling
(10:05:57) (Richard) The main evidence came with Cayce himself... The bits that we are redicovering in the world merely authenticates the source.
(10:06:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We know the Littles personally. They are good people, but Greg tends to be more science-minded and not so inclined to go along with Cayce as some might think. I believe that is part of the reason they have not found anything yet. Because Greg has certain places he *thinks* and science says Atlantis should be, while Cayce says otherwise.
(10:06:10) (mike_trueeagle) we hav been kept in the dark so long
(10:07:06) (Bill) thye've pulled cameras over every inche of the floor of the sea around there and so far nothing
(10:07:21) (Cris) There are a lot of reasons for not admiting Atlantis and other earlier places did exist
(10:07:22) (mike_trueeagle) here it is the 21centrey . an its like we r still in the dark ages !
(10:07:32) (Richard) Still much to be said about the site off
(10:07:37) (Richard) Cuba.
(10:07:45) (Bill) by the Cayces researchers Cris??
(10:07:53) (mike_trueeagle) right cris
(10:08:26) (mike_trueeagle) r goverment knows a lot more then ther telling!
(10:08:26) (Cris) Part of it is power control there are people still searching for the great crystal
(10:08:29) (BrightEyes) Peter V was talking about this a while ago, right?
(10:08:52) (Cris) I know of a diver that was paid for his silence
(10:08:52) (merri) right BE
(10:09:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, and one man named Brown found it.
(10:09:21) (Richard) I am convinced it is the Source, which must be the complete spirit or Wholly Spirit that is the prime director.
(10:09:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It even still had the ruby attached to it.
(10:09:33) (Wanda) found the great crystal?
(10:09:51) (mike_trueeagle) jus like we r alone in the una verse.. .. yea right !
(10:09:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We did a chat on it a while back.
(10:10:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Wanda
(10:10:27) (merri) what'd they do with it
(10:10:38) (merri) where is it now
(10:10:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It's still underwater
(10:10:46) (Wanda) what did they do with it. Is it hidden
(10:10:52) (Bill) threw it in the ocean and created the burmuda triangle :o)
(10:10:55) (merri) why
(10:10:59) (BrightEyes) hee hee hee
(10:11:06) (merri) LOL
(10:11:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The main part of it was too big to raise.
(10:11:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Seems like he did get the ruby off of it, though
(10:11:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Don't quote me on that. I'd have to read that article again.
(10:12:03) (Richard) I would like to hear more about that WIS...
(10:12:08) (merri) bigger than a ship?
(10:12:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But yes, it is in the Bermuda Triangle
(10:12:25) (Wanda) I would like to know more too
(10:12:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He said it would fill a large room.
(10:12:50) (merri) they raise ocean liners why couldn't they raise a crystal?
(10:12:58) (Richard) I feel that I was with the Crystal when the inundations occured.
(10:13:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I could pull up that article, if yall want me to?
(10:13:17) (Bill) hard to but an airbag in a crystral
(10:13:22) (Richard) I'd like that.
(10:13:59) (merri) how about surrounding it with airbags Bill
(10:14:26) (Richard) There may be a problem removing it from it's grid.
(10:14:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, just a sec
(10:14:41) (Bill) Merri if it was there i'm sure it wouldn't be long before someone would have it on board
(10:14:56) (merri) exactly!
(10:15:19) (Wanda) Seems like it would be big time news
(10:15:42) (Richard) Bigger then a homosexual preacher.
(10:16:03) (Bill) that broke his organ on a him?
(10:16:13) (Richard) Had to throw that in there.
(10:16:13) (Bill) oops hym
(10:16:16) (merri) LOL
(10:16:26) (merri) naughty Bill!!!
(10:16:49) (Bill) can't help it Merri :o)
(10:17:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, found it!
(10:17:14) (mike_trueeagle) k wis