Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 16, 2007 21:59:29 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 02-16-07
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(09:15:25) (GuestHost-ron) what material I have tonite is something I started looking thru the Readings regarding dreams...i just started recently but haven't had time to finish...included is something brief on meditation, so I'll include it
(09:23:15) (GuestHost-ron) what I have are a few quotes from the readings which will include some other commentary
(09:23:39) (GuestHost-ron) then we can share our dreams
(09:23:59) (GuestHost-ron) “Our Father, Our God! We thank you for the gift of your son, the Christ, in whose name we ask pardon and grace and mercy for the shortcomings of myself and others. Let me so live in the light of His love as He manifested in the Earth. And may I be humble, may I be patient, may I be gracious: forgiving even as I ask forgiveness for myself.” 281-64
(09:24:11) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:24:29) (Breeze) Amen
(09:24:42) (GuestHost-ron) amen
(09:25:00) (GuestHost-ron) Dreams can help us diagnose health problems, encourage us in the decisions we make, or reprimand us for negative behavior in our relationships.
(09:25:03) (Bill) Amen
(09:25:24) (GuestHost-ron) They can be instructive and practical, lighthearted fun or spiritually uplifting, depending on what we need most at a given time. Even major life issues are addressed in dreams; in fact, according to Cayce, nothing of importance happens to us without it first having been foreshadowed in our dreams. -from ARE site commentary/Edgar Cayce On Dreams
(09:25:55) (GuestHost-ron) nothing of importance happens to us without it first having been foreshadowed in our dreams.
(09:26:15) (GuestHost-ron) Here is another ARE commentary indicating that dream premonition is always evident?
(09:26:34) (GuestHost-ron) [Is not giving warnings in a dream precognitive? Thus a person is given the opportunity to change the future.]
(09:26:48) (GuestHost-ron) Dreams can diagnose the causes of our physical ailments, point out the thoughts and emotions that we've tried to overlook, and often make suggestions for improving our relationships with others. While dreaming, we can gain awareness about our entire being: physically, mentally, and spiritually.
(09:27:13) (GuestHost-ron) Begin by realizing that the feeling you had about the dream is at least as important as trying to come up with one interpretation; besides, because of the multiple levels of our own beings, dreams generally have more than one meaning.
(09:27:41) (GuestHost-ron) Essentially the purpose of dreams is to make us more consciously aware of what we are going through in our lives based on our thoughts, feelings, and actions. They can show us the desires that are motivating us and help us sense the needs of our bodies [guidance, or looking ahead -ron]. They can provide insights [looking ahead] for living life more creatively and assist us in making important decisions [looking ahead] based on what we already
(09:28:19) (GuestHost-ron) For example, dreams may give us guidance on helping to heal a relationship [to look ahead], but only if we've already tried to do the best we can with that person. When we set our sights and make the decisions [to change the future] that are called for, then they will aid us by bringing life into clearer focus. - An Overview of the Edgar Cayce Material by Kevin J. Todeschi
(09:29:01) (GuestHost-ron) If you woke up one morning and suddenly realized that you lived with friends and advisors who could provide you with helpful and consistent advice [looking ahead] about your life, wouldn't you want to check in with them - at least occasionally?
(09:29:33) (GuestHost-ron) What if you discovered that this advice extended to much needed insights [looking ahead] into any area of your life, whether it was romance, work, health, spiritual growth, finances, relationships, even your future? You might think it foolish to ignore the wisdom of individuals who knew the answers, who loved you unconditionally, and who only had your best interests in mind.
(09:30:05) (GuestHost-ron) And yet most individuals ignore this very insight every day because it comes to them in the form of their dreams - and it is a wealth of insight and guidance [looking ahead] that is just waiting to be tapped from the subconscious mind.
(09:30:29) (GuestHost-ron) For the most part, dreams contrast and correlate the activities that are going on in our lives. They often provide the dreamer with other ways of looking at activities, relationships, and concerns that have been on his or her mind.
(09:30:50) (GuestHost-ron) Working with a dream simply suggests that we get a sense of whether or not the dream is positive, negative, uplifting, a warning [looking ahead] - whatever it may be. - Dreams as Guidance to Life's Questions by Kevin Todeschi
(09:31:20) (GuestHost-ron) "Sleep is that period when the soul takes stock of what it has acted upon, from one rest period to another; drawing comparisons, as it were, that make for harmony, peace, joy, love, long suffering, patience, brotherly love and kindness - all fruits of the spirit. Hate, harsh words, unkind thoughts and oppressions are fruits of Satan. The soul either abhors what it has passed through, or it enters into the joy of the Lord." (364-4)
(09:32:01) (GuestHost-ron) "Forget not that it has been rightly said that the Creator, the gods and the God of the Universe speak to man through his individual self. Man approaches the more' intimate conditions of that field of the inner self when the conscious self is at rest in sleep; at which time more of the inner forces are taken into consideration and studied by the individual.
(09:32:32) (GuestHost-ron) "If man desires to receive God's approval, it is his duty to try not only to understand himself, but also to understand his individual relationship to others.
(09:32:52) (GuestHost-ron) "This he can do through the reception of messages from the higher forces themselves, as in dreams. In this age, at present (1923), there is insufficient credence given to dreams. For the best development of the human family, greater increase in knowledge of. the subconscious soul or spirit world is necessary." (2744-4)
(09:33:37) (GuestHost-ron) ok, here is a brief change of subject...I hope you don't mind
(09:33:43) (GuestHost-ron) ON THE SUBJECT OF MEDITATION
(09:33:59) (GuestHost-ron) When in the opening chapter of Revelation John says, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind me a great voice," Cayce interpreted this to mean that he was in meditation.
(09:34:19) (GuestHost-ron) According to Cayce, everyone must one day at some level of his progression learn to meditate, because only through meditation will he eventually generate sufficient will power to free himself from his lower self. This is as true for every soul on the earth as it was true of John, because the seven glandular centers of the body, said Cayce, are the points of contact with the soul within.
(09:34:53) (GuestHost-ron) Through the endocrine centers of the body, the soul. in a measure controls the body and is .itself influenced by it.
(09:35:06) (GuestHost-ron) In meditation, man .opens himself to those benign powers which are the strongest forces in the universe, as well as to all time, all space, and all levels of consciousness. It is his attempt to communicate with his source, with God. 'Whereas prayer is "man talking to God," meditation is "man listening for God's voice."
(09:35:55) (GuestHost-ron) finished with the meditation...i accidently came across that comment...it caught my attention while I was looking up more on dreams
(09:36:04) (Raleigh) :)
(09:36:13) (GuestHost-ron) If some dreams are signs from heaven (superconscious) which can guide [telling us to look ahead] our feet back to the source of all light, then be assured that meditation is one of the means by which we increase our ability to understand our dreams.
(09:36:45) (GuestHost-ron) "Sleep is a shadow of that intermission (of life) or that state. called death. The physical consciousness is unaware of existent conditions except for those senses which are on guard working through the auditory sense. This is more universal in aspect. The organs governed by the subconscious continue to work.
(09:37:19) (GuestHost-ron) The sense of perception related to the brain is asleep. The auditory sense, however, is subdivided and there is hearing by feeling, hearing through the sense of smell, the act of hearing by all the senses that are independent of the brain centers; but are rather of the lymph centers or the entire sympathetic system so that IN SLEEP ONE IS MORE AWARE even though the body physical is asleep.
(09:37:53) (GuestHost-ron) This, the sixth sense, is a part of the superconscious, which is the spiritual self ever on guard before the throne of the Creator itself. It is that which may be trained or submerged or left to its own initiative. until it makes war with self, resulting in disease, temper, the blues or the grouches. This causes the brain to become so charged as to respond in the same manner as a string on a violin which is tuned to vibrate to certain sounds
(09:38:37) (GuestHost-ron) The sense that governs this is in touch with the high self. There is ever, when the body is asleep, that other self which communes with the soul of the body, see? The sixth sense goes out at night to those realms of experience related to all levels of consciousness, all time, and TO ITS OWN CRITERION OR STANDARDS, developed through the ages. As a result, through such comparisons and judging in sleep, peace or understanding may come.
(09:39:12) (GuestHost-ron) The more spiritual minded individuals are - easily pacified in sleep or when awake. Why? Because they have set before themselves an ideal, a criterion upon I which they rely completely. Then through sleep they enter into the silence. What does this mean? ENTERING INTO THE PRESENCE OF THAT WHICH IS THEIR IDEAL - THEIR GOD!" (5754-1)
(09:39:58) (GuestHost-ron) Here are some important points to remember to aid you in the analysis of your dreams:
(09:40:07) (GuestHost-ron) 1. Keep a notebook beside the bed. Record your dreams as soon after waking as possible.
(09:40:18) (GuestHost-ron) 2. Suggest to yourself every night as you fall asleep, "I will remember my dreams."
(09:40:28) (GuestHost-ron) 3. If you wake during the night, write down the main symbols and the entire dream will usually come back in the morning.
(09:40:40) (GuestHost-ron) 4. Practice keen observation in your dreams through self-suggestion prior to sleep.
(09:40:51) (GuestHost-ron) 5. Look for these components in your dreams; the setting, the people, the action, the color, the feeling, and the words.
(09:41:04) (GuestHost-ron) 6. Work on analyzing your dreams every day, otherwise their progression will be difficult to assess.
(09:41:16) (GuestHost-ron) 7. If dreams are illogical, three reasons are possible. a) Only fragments of the dream have been recalled. b) The dream is reflecting something illogical in the dreamer's life. c) Mental blocks have erased your recall.
(09:41:36) (GuestHost-ron) 8. If you are unable to decipher an important dream, suggest to yourself, before your next sleep, that the dream repeat itself more clearly. .
(09:41:49) (GuestHost-ron) 9. Nightmares, which bring with them an inability to move or cry out, usually indicate the wrong diet. To end the nightmarish dreams change your diet.
(09:42:04) (GuestHost-ron) 10. Dreams that ;"e unchanged through the years indicate the dreamer's resistance to change. .
(09:42:36) (GuestHost-ron) 10. Dreams that ;"are unchanged through the years indicate the dreamer's resistance to change. .
(09:42:46) (GuestHost-ron) 11. Dreams of ill-health can be either literal or symbolic warnings.
(09:42:58) (GuestHost-ron) 12. When a problem confronts you, ask for guidance to be sent to you through your dreams.
(09:43:10) (GuestHost-ron) 13. Be practical in your interpretations. Always look first for a lesson. What have you refused to face or been ignoring?
(09:43:24) (GuestHost-ron) 14. Observe carefully recurrent dreams, as well as the serially progressive ones. These often illustrate progress or failure.
(09:43:58) (GuestHost-ron) 15. Dreams are the reaction of the inner self to daytime activity, and often show the way out of the dilemma. So relate them to current activity, because dreams may be retrospective as well as prospective.
(09:44:20) (GuestHost-ron) 16. Dreams come to guide and help, not to amuse. They direct your attention to errors of omission and commission and ,offer encouragement for right endeavors. They also give us the opportunity to pray for others and to help them bear their burdens.
(09:44:51) (GuestHost-ron) 17. If you receive an unusual message, reduce it to common terms. See if the symbolism of the Bible can be of help in interpreting the dream.
(09:45:08) (GuestHost-ron) 18. Look for past life experiences in your dreams. These manifest themselves not only in color, but in the proper costume and setting of their period. They come to warn you [looking ahead] against repeating the same old mistakes; to explain your relationships and reactions to certain people and places; to reduce your confusions [looking ahead]; to enable you to better understand life.
(09:45:30) (GuestHost-ron) 19. Do not fear conversation with the dead in dreams. If the communication is one-sided, it denotes telepathy. If both participate, it may be an actual encounter of bodiless consciousness.
(09:45:55) (GuestHost-ron) 20. Dreams are primarily about self. Only a few dreams relate to family, friends, and world events.
(09:46:10) (GuestHost-ron) 21. Watch for ESP in dreams.
(09:46:20) (GuestHost-ron) 22. Remember persistence is necessary to learn any new language; and dream symbols are the forgotten language of the subconscious.
(09:46:34) (GuestHost-ron) 23. Give daily thanks to God for all things and use daily prayer to improve the quality and reception of your dreams………[taken from DREAMS: YOUR MAGIC MIRROR by Elsie Sechrist……END
(09:15:25) (GuestHost-ron) what material I have tonite is something I started looking thru the Readings regarding dreams...i just started recently but haven't had time to finish...included is something brief on meditation, so I'll include it
(09:23:15) (GuestHost-ron) what I have are a few quotes from the readings which will include some other commentary
(09:23:39) (GuestHost-ron) then we can share our dreams
(09:23:59) (GuestHost-ron) “Our Father, Our God! We thank you for the gift of your son, the Christ, in whose name we ask pardon and grace and mercy for the shortcomings of myself and others. Let me so live in the light of His love as He manifested in the Earth. And may I be humble, may I be patient, may I be gracious: forgiving even as I ask forgiveness for myself.” 281-64
(09:24:11) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:24:29) (Breeze) Amen
(09:24:42) (GuestHost-ron) amen
(09:25:00) (GuestHost-ron) Dreams can help us diagnose health problems, encourage us in the decisions we make, or reprimand us for negative behavior in our relationships.
(09:25:03) (Bill) Amen
(09:25:24) (GuestHost-ron) They can be instructive and practical, lighthearted fun or spiritually uplifting, depending on what we need most at a given time. Even major life issues are addressed in dreams; in fact, according to Cayce, nothing of importance happens to us without it first having been foreshadowed in our dreams. -from ARE site commentary/Edgar Cayce On Dreams
(09:25:55) (GuestHost-ron) nothing of importance happens to us without it first having been foreshadowed in our dreams.
(09:26:15) (GuestHost-ron) Here is another ARE commentary indicating that dream premonition is always evident?
(09:26:34) (GuestHost-ron) [Is not giving warnings in a dream precognitive? Thus a person is given the opportunity to change the future.]
(09:26:48) (GuestHost-ron) Dreams can diagnose the causes of our physical ailments, point out the thoughts and emotions that we've tried to overlook, and often make suggestions for improving our relationships with others. While dreaming, we can gain awareness about our entire being: physically, mentally, and spiritually.
(09:27:13) (GuestHost-ron) Begin by realizing that the feeling you had about the dream is at least as important as trying to come up with one interpretation; besides, because of the multiple levels of our own beings, dreams generally have more than one meaning.
(09:27:41) (GuestHost-ron) Essentially the purpose of dreams is to make us more consciously aware of what we are going through in our lives based on our thoughts, feelings, and actions. They can show us the desires that are motivating us and help us sense the needs of our bodies [guidance, or looking ahead -ron]. They can provide insights [looking ahead] for living life more creatively and assist us in making important decisions [looking ahead] based on what we already
(09:28:19) (GuestHost-ron) For example, dreams may give us guidance on helping to heal a relationship [to look ahead], but only if we've already tried to do the best we can with that person. When we set our sights and make the decisions [to change the future] that are called for, then they will aid us by bringing life into clearer focus. - An Overview of the Edgar Cayce Material by Kevin J. Todeschi
(09:29:01) (GuestHost-ron) If you woke up one morning and suddenly realized that you lived with friends and advisors who could provide you with helpful and consistent advice [looking ahead] about your life, wouldn't you want to check in with them - at least occasionally?
(09:29:33) (GuestHost-ron) What if you discovered that this advice extended to much needed insights [looking ahead] into any area of your life, whether it was romance, work, health, spiritual growth, finances, relationships, even your future? You might think it foolish to ignore the wisdom of individuals who knew the answers, who loved you unconditionally, and who only had your best interests in mind.
(09:30:05) (GuestHost-ron) And yet most individuals ignore this very insight every day because it comes to them in the form of their dreams - and it is a wealth of insight and guidance [looking ahead] that is just waiting to be tapped from the subconscious mind.
(09:30:29) (GuestHost-ron) For the most part, dreams contrast and correlate the activities that are going on in our lives. They often provide the dreamer with other ways of looking at activities, relationships, and concerns that have been on his or her mind.
(09:30:50) (GuestHost-ron) Working with a dream simply suggests that we get a sense of whether or not the dream is positive, negative, uplifting, a warning [looking ahead] - whatever it may be. - Dreams as Guidance to Life's Questions by Kevin Todeschi
(09:31:20) (GuestHost-ron) "Sleep is that period when the soul takes stock of what it has acted upon, from one rest period to another; drawing comparisons, as it were, that make for harmony, peace, joy, love, long suffering, patience, brotherly love and kindness - all fruits of the spirit. Hate, harsh words, unkind thoughts and oppressions are fruits of Satan. The soul either abhors what it has passed through, or it enters into the joy of the Lord." (364-4)
(09:32:01) (GuestHost-ron) "Forget not that it has been rightly said that the Creator, the gods and the God of the Universe speak to man through his individual self. Man approaches the more' intimate conditions of that field of the inner self when the conscious self is at rest in sleep; at which time more of the inner forces are taken into consideration and studied by the individual.
(09:32:32) (GuestHost-ron) "If man desires to receive God's approval, it is his duty to try not only to understand himself, but also to understand his individual relationship to others.
(09:32:52) (GuestHost-ron) "This he can do through the reception of messages from the higher forces themselves, as in dreams. In this age, at present (1923), there is insufficient credence given to dreams. For the best development of the human family, greater increase in knowledge of. the subconscious soul or spirit world is necessary." (2744-4)
(09:33:37) (GuestHost-ron) ok, here is a brief change of subject...I hope you don't mind
(09:33:43) (GuestHost-ron) ON THE SUBJECT OF MEDITATION
(09:33:59) (GuestHost-ron) When in the opening chapter of Revelation John says, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard behind me a great voice," Cayce interpreted this to mean that he was in meditation.
(09:34:19) (GuestHost-ron) According to Cayce, everyone must one day at some level of his progression learn to meditate, because only through meditation will he eventually generate sufficient will power to free himself from his lower self. This is as true for every soul on the earth as it was true of John, because the seven glandular centers of the body, said Cayce, are the points of contact with the soul within.
(09:34:53) (GuestHost-ron) Through the endocrine centers of the body, the soul. in a measure controls the body and is .itself influenced by it.
(09:35:06) (GuestHost-ron) In meditation, man .opens himself to those benign powers which are the strongest forces in the universe, as well as to all time, all space, and all levels of consciousness. It is his attempt to communicate with his source, with God. 'Whereas prayer is "man talking to God," meditation is "man listening for God's voice."
(09:35:55) (GuestHost-ron) finished with the meditation...i accidently came across that comment...it caught my attention while I was looking up more on dreams
(09:36:04) (Raleigh) :)
(09:36:13) (GuestHost-ron) If some dreams are signs from heaven (superconscious) which can guide [telling us to look ahead] our feet back to the source of all light, then be assured that meditation is one of the means by which we increase our ability to understand our dreams.
(09:36:45) (GuestHost-ron) "Sleep is a shadow of that intermission (of life) or that state. called death. The physical consciousness is unaware of existent conditions except for those senses which are on guard working through the auditory sense. This is more universal in aspect. The organs governed by the subconscious continue to work.
(09:37:19) (GuestHost-ron) The sense of perception related to the brain is asleep. The auditory sense, however, is subdivided and there is hearing by feeling, hearing through the sense of smell, the act of hearing by all the senses that are independent of the brain centers; but are rather of the lymph centers or the entire sympathetic system so that IN SLEEP ONE IS MORE AWARE even though the body physical is asleep.
(09:37:53) (GuestHost-ron) This, the sixth sense, is a part of the superconscious, which is the spiritual self ever on guard before the throne of the Creator itself. It is that which may be trained or submerged or left to its own initiative. until it makes war with self, resulting in disease, temper, the blues or the grouches. This causes the brain to become so charged as to respond in the same manner as a string on a violin which is tuned to vibrate to certain sounds
(09:38:37) (GuestHost-ron) The sense that governs this is in touch with the high self. There is ever, when the body is asleep, that other self which communes with the soul of the body, see? The sixth sense goes out at night to those realms of experience related to all levels of consciousness, all time, and TO ITS OWN CRITERION OR STANDARDS, developed through the ages. As a result, through such comparisons and judging in sleep, peace or understanding may come.
(09:39:12) (GuestHost-ron) The more spiritual minded individuals are - easily pacified in sleep or when awake. Why? Because they have set before themselves an ideal, a criterion upon I which they rely completely. Then through sleep they enter into the silence. What does this mean? ENTERING INTO THE PRESENCE OF THAT WHICH IS THEIR IDEAL - THEIR GOD!" (5754-1)
(09:39:58) (GuestHost-ron) Here are some important points to remember to aid you in the analysis of your dreams:
(09:40:07) (GuestHost-ron) 1. Keep a notebook beside the bed. Record your dreams as soon after waking as possible.
(09:40:18) (GuestHost-ron) 2. Suggest to yourself every night as you fall asleep, "I will remember my dreams."
(09:40:28) (GuestHost-ron) 3. If you wake during the night, write down the main symbols and the entire dream will usually come back in the morning.
(09:40:40) (GuestHost-ron) 4. Practice keen observation in your dreams through self-suggestion prior to sleep.
(09:40:51) (GuestHost-ron) 5. Look for these components in your dreams; the setting, the people, the action, the color, the feeling, and the words.
(09:41:04) (GuestHost-ron) 6. Work on analyzing your dreams every day, otherwise their progression will be difficult to assess.
(09:41:16) (GuestHost-ron) 7. If dreams are illogical, three reasons are possible. a) Only fragments of the dream have been recalled. b) The dream is reflecting something illogical in the dreamer's life. c) Mental blocks have erased your recall.
(09:41:36) (GuestHost-ron) 8. If you are unable to decipher an important dream, suggest to yourself, before your next sleep, that the dream repeat itself more clearly. .
(09:41:49) (GuestHost-ron) 9. Nightmares, which bring with them an inability to move or cry out, usually indicate the wrong diet. To end the nightmarish dreams change your diet.
(09:42:04) (GuestHost-ron) 10. Dreams that ;"e unchanged through the years indicate the dreamer's resistance to change. .
(09:42:36) (GuestHost-ron) 10. Dreams that ;"are unchanged through the years indicate the dreamer's resistance to change. .
(09:42:46) (GuestHost-ron) 11. Dreams of ill-health can be either literal or symbolic warnings.
(09:42:58) (GuestHost-ron) 12. When a problem confronts you, ask for guidance to be sent to you through your dreams.
(09:43:10) (GuestHost-ron) 13. Be practical in your interpretations. Always look first for a lesson. What have you refused to face or been ignoring?
(09:43:24) (GuestHost-ron) 14. Observe carefully recurrent dreams, as well as the serially progressive ones. These often illustrate progress or failure.
(09:43:58) (GuestHost-ron) 15. Dreams are the reaction of the inner self to daytime activity, and often show the way out of the dilemma. So relate them to current activity, because dreams may be retrospective as well as prospective.
(09:44:20) (GuestHost-ron) 16. Dreams come to guide and help, not to amuse. They direct your attention to errors of omission and commission and ,offer encouragement for right endeavors. They also give us the opportunity to pray for others and to help them bear their burdens.
(09:44:51) (GuestHost-ron) 17. If you receive an unusual message, reduce it to common terms. See if the symbolism of the Bible can be of help in interpreting the dream.
(09:45:08) (GuestHost-ron) 18. Look for past life experiences in your dreams. These manifest themselves not only in color, but in the proper costume and setting of their period. They come to warn you [looking ahead] against repeating the same old mistakes; to explain your relationships and reactions to certain people and places; to reduce your confusions [looking ahead]; to enable you to better understand life.
(09:45:30) (GuestHost-ron) 19. Do not fear conversation with the dead in dreams. If the communication is one-sided, it denotes telepathy. If both participate, it may be an actual encounter of bodiless consciousness.
(09:45:55) (GuestHost-ron) 20. Dreams are primarily about self. Only a few dreams relate to family, friends, and world events.
(09:46:10) (GuestHost-ron) 21. Watch for ESP in dreams.
(09:46:20) (GuestHost-ron) 22. Remember persistence is necessary to learn any new language; and dream symbols are the forgotten language of the subconscious.
(09:46:34) (GuestHost-ron) 23. Give daily thanks to God for all things and use daily prayer to improve the quality and reception of your dreams………[taken from DREAMS: YOUR MAGIC MIRROR by Elsie Sechrist……END
