Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 30, 2005 22:17:02 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 09-30-05
(08:31:43) (host-merri) several nights ago there was discussion about contacting those who passed in one's dreams
(08:32:07) (host-merri) Cayce has some things to say about that
(08:32:52) (host-merri) here are some posts on that subject for you to consider
(08:33:40) (host-merri) First of all, one is ready for such dreams when he has them. His subconscious will not feed him experiences he can’t handle if he chooses to do so. Secondly, one is ready for dream contact with the dead when he will not speak lightly of them. In Cayce’s view, such dreams could mean dangerous escapism.
(08:34:24) (host-merri) Thirdly, one is ready for dreams of the dead when he soundly loves and serves the living, such dreams always come for a personal reason, a personal growth of the dreamer, or some concrete service in the regular round of his daily life.
(08:34:40) (ky-mike) dreams , another way of contact
(08:35:12) (host-merri) Fourthly, one is ready for dreams of the dead when he is as ready to give aid to the dead as to receive it. When prayer for a discarnate comes freely and naturally to mind, then visions of them may follow. Any other approach tends to be exploitive.
(08:35:15) (toitle) Can anyone explain thatfirst post e:dangerous escapism
(08:36:13) (Raleigh) only once merri for me / dreaming of the passed on
(08:36:16) (Qrious) trippin.
(08:36:17) (host-merri) for some it may become away of not accepting the passing of a loved one
(08:36:34) (toitle) k ty
(08:37:06) (host-merri) Fifthly, one is ready for dreams of dead loved ones when he has worked through his grief and guilts regarding them and forgiving them for hurts to himself. Lack of this makes a nearly impenetrable barrier.
(08:37:06) (vjh) My grandmother came to me in a dream 10 years ago to show me an earth change to come.
(08:37:31) (Raleigh) what was it vj
(08:37:59) (vjh) She was standing in front of me and pointing to the river and said it would make a sharp turn.
(08:38:01) (host-merri) Finally, one may dream of the dead when his own full life draws to its natural close, and it is time for him to prepare for the next journey.
(08:38:48) (host-merri) Contrary to what the living may think, according to Cayce, not a few of the dreams where the living meet the dead are for the sake of the dead. Sometimes the dead simply want to be known and recognized as still existent.
(08:39:07) (Roz) and a last loving thng we can do for a loved one is to release them
(08:39:21) (host-merri) agree Roz
(08:39:45) (host-merri) Cayce also warned that to seek contact too often with a discarnate would bring distress to the discarnate, holding the dead back from their own full journey. Yet he also added that there was also distress brought to them “by not understanding, by not hearing, the call”.
(08:40:07) (Roz) we keep them earth bound by weeping and contacting them
(08:40:44) (host-merri) Yet contact between the dead and the living can be joyous. Sometimes it occurs because the dead want to show the living what death is like, to take away their fear and grief.
(08:40:57) (Raleigh) and best to give them flwers while they are with us rather than at thier funeral ec said too
(08:41:13) (Qrious) thats kinda a selfish emotion eh. . Roz.. mourning a loss.
(08:41:16) (host-merri) In dreams the eternal can be hidden in the ordinary. This was the promise Edgar Cayce’s readings perceived in all dreaming, for all dreamers.
(08:41:34) (Roz) no it is serving no one
(08:41:55) (Roz) only sorry for yourself
(08:42:00) (Raleigh) as they are still living ok
(08:42:42) (host-merri) ok anyone with a dream to share
(08:42:56) (merlin) i do merri
(08:43:09) (host-merri) ok merlin
(08:43:21) (host-merri) take center stage!
(08:43:25) (merlin) ok
(08:43:37) (Raleigh) gimme a 5 minute warning merri / i have 1 asc well
(08:44:17) (merlin) i was in a large group of people somewhere outside near buildings that had tro do with government
(08:45:01) (merlin) there were small steps all the way up to the entry way
(08:46:15) (merlin) there i was right in the middle of the pack of people when it started
(08:47:25) (merlin) . there was water at our feet and it seemed to be crawling up the steps , like it was deliberately seeking us out
(08:48:13) (merlin) at first it seemed like there was a purpose behind it
(08:49:05) (merlin) it got to deep suddenly and no one was able to go back down the steps
(08:49:23) (vjh) it has the sounds of what recently happened down south, flood water coming up.
(08:49:52) (merlin) there seemed to be an intelligent force behind the creeping water.
(08:50:12) (merlin) it was acting as if it were stalking us.
(08:51:41) (merlin) i was then i was . pushed forward in time and i find i am on some type of boat a raft or barge.
(08:52:36) (merlin) there were others on this boat and we were traveling up stream
(08:53:11) (merlin) all we could see was water all around us . no dryt land insight .
(08:53:52) (merlin) i remembered the movie waterworld was like this. always looking for dry land
(08:54:09) (merlin) and that seemed to be the end of the dream.
(08:54:17) (Roz) merlin do y feel over whelmed at some form of the government?
(08:54:57) (vjh) It kind of sounds like the way the people in New Orleans must have felt.
(08:55:04) (ron) government = authority = in charge of life
(08:55:21) (vjh) It may be a dream about earth changes to come.
(08:55:50) (ron) once one stsarts to climb upward there is no turning back
(08:55:50) (Bill) when you put your faith in the One,Sourse of all life, and take 1 small step at a time there'll be no need for you to be going upsteam
(08:56:11) (merlin) all of itroz
(08:56:21) (vjh) What does going upstream mean verses going downstream?
(08:56:35) (ron) there is intellectual guidance behind it all as symbolized by the government
(08:56:37) (merlin) gain
(08:56:38) (host-merri) or finding yourself afloat looking for dry land
(08:56:55) (Raleigh) i see that it may be our futer / as arth chages happen yes many will be at sea suddenly / and all would run to government for amswers / mnow yes we are not of this world so i see that you saw it had intent to harm us / the earth / so i feel your dream may be prophetic merlin
(08:57:00) (Bill) we have choices vjh take the hard way or the easy way
(08:57:05) (ron) being perceived as stalking is fear setting in
(08:57:27) (vjh) which one is the hard way, going upstream?
(08:57:35) (host-merri) good point ron
(08:57:35) (Bill) yes
(08:57:43) (Roz) I think it is about how you feel right now not prophetic
(08:57:47) (ron) upstream is a harder path
(08:58:03) (ron) dry land looking for safety
(08:58:33) (vjh) yes, but if you're going downstream, you don't have to put any energy into it. You can just float. Going upstream, you have to paddle.
(08:58:53) (Qrious) sounds like you just had a universal conscious dream like it Carl Jungs teachings.. you simply tapped into all of the other peoples dreams from New Orleans.
(08:58:55) (ron) downstream = easy going
(08:59:04) (ron) going with the flow
(08:59:09) (host-merri) it can also be going against the tide, so to speak, vjh
(08:59:12) (merlin) how i saw it / was our government ( bush) has been completely responsible for the katrina and rita hurricanes
(08:59:21) (Raleigh) so the way i see it you told the futher merlin / its going to happen all round the world when the axis shifts
(08:59:49) (vjh) How can Bush be responsible for the hurricanes?
(09:00:00) (ron) i believe that was used as a stimulas to your dream...the government example
(09:00:03) (Raleigh) like a karma of america merlin ?
(09:00:09) (toitle) through negligence
(09:00:11) (merlin) hi ral, yes that's the gist of it.
(09:00:18) (BlackWolf) The karma of a war mentality?
(09:00:21) (Bill) merlin we must each take responsibility for what goes on around us pointed the finger at anyone is not benificail
(09:00:45) (vjh) It would be interesting to be able to talk to those people from New Orleans and see if they had dreams about what happened a few days before it happened.
(09:01:10) (Raleigh) new orleans was pretty rowdy so as the stories of cities basd snuffed this may be so in this case then
(09:01:34) (Roz) you are so right Bill
(09:01:45) (toitle) yup BW but also it is higher way to peace this exhausting of resources guarantees that there can be no more wars
(09:01:46) (merlin) i agree bill but with what i have been reading weather manipulation is possible.
(09:02:20) (vjh) You're saying Bush created the hurricanes?
(09:02:31) (host-merri) even if possible merlin, what would be the motive?
(09:02:32) (toitle) three strikes your out!
(09:02:33) (Raleigh) so you feel its recent events rather than the future ok
(09:02:45) (merlin) his underlings have carried out his orders
(09:02:48) (ron) who ever created it, if that was done, God permitted it
(09:03:10) (Roz) preposterous
(09:03:36) (Bill) i don't think any of us are in any position to judge the initiation of any disaster
(09:03:39) (Raleigh) 1 more thing / all leaders are given that possition by god btw
(09:03:58) (Qrious) I would have to agree with merlin vjh.. as far as the weather being manipulated.. there is a device in Alaska that is already being questioned by the Alaskan state.
(09:04:48) (host-merri) what would be the motivation Q?
(09:05:28) (Qrious) that would sound kinda correct about God permitting the weather to happen ron.. its almost like the story about Atlantis.. but I wonder.. did he really wished our folly or just let us do ourselves in?
(09:05:52) (ron) results of human misconduct
(09:05:54) (vjh) Yes, he and the governor and the mayor were all negligent after the hurricane. I think the LA governor acted terrible, TERRIBLE.
(09:05:58) (host-merri) LOL Q! the last most likely
(09:06:02) (Raleigh) yes ron
(09:06:09) (ron) thus, laws are brought into activity
(09:06:15) (ron) the laws of God
(09:06:23) (vjh) Getting back to what Merlin said, you mean there's some device in Alaska that can make weather?
(09:06:29) (BlackWolf) The people who did not fund the repair of the levees for years and years are greatly responsible.
(09:06:48) (Raleigh) well yes q / the breakup of atlanis is being reapeated
(09:06:49) (Qrious) I really don't know merri.. about the motivation.. but we did do nuclear tests and blast sites before we trully understood the enormous effects of fall out.
(09:07:11) (Bill) Ral thought you had a dream to share
(09:07:24) (Raleigh) now merri?
(09:07:25) (vjh) That's true too Black Wolf. I heard someone on a news channel saying that the LA governor couldn't be trusted with money to repair the levees because she had already been given money for that and instead she spent it on casinos.
(09:07:28) (Qrious) That is what is being looked into.. vjh.
(09:07:34) (merlin) that alaskan thing has something to do with haarp / scalar waves too .
(09:07:52) (Raleigh) probly not i feel vj
(09:07:56) (Roz) yes they used federal funds allocated for levee reparis for the astodome and casinos
(09:07:58) (ron) that old Tesla stuff
(09:08:09) (merlin) i read about them but don't exactly understand what scalar waves are.
(09:08:17) (vjh) What's Tesla?
(09:08:26) (toitle) I heard his testimony before the the judiciary and that man talks like a sociopath
(09:08:28) (Qrious) The money was also given to private schools .
(09:08:39) (Raleigh) an electrician kinda lol
(09:08:47) (Raleigh) a man vj
(09:09:09) (Qrious) Tesla rules... rock band ya'll.
(09:09:50) (host-merri) New Orleans disaster goes way back
(09:10:04) (vjh) That dream of yours Merlin really has alot in it that makes one think of New Orleans.
(09:10:07) (Roz) corruption for decades
(09:10:07) (host-merri) what happened recently is the results
(09:10:21) (Qrious) and yes merlin is correct in suggesting the HAARP in Alaska.
(09:10:25) (Raleigh) its atlantis again ill say
(09:10:36) (Raleigh) repeated
(09:10:48) (Raleigh) yes roz
(09:10:52) (host-merri) right Roz, it didn't happen overnight
(09:10:57) (Raleigh) as citied destroyed
(09:11:00) (Raleigh) by god
(09:11:17) (Raleigh) cities
(09:11:28) (BlackWolf) Rising sea levels of six feet every 100 years, plus the natural subsidence of that part of the continent, and the fact that New Orleans had already had a couple of close escapes the last couple of years.
(09:11:36) (Bill) no Ral by mans putting laws into action
(09:11:38) (Raleigh) la is next
(09:11:44) (Raleigh) its obvious
(09:11:56) (Raleigh) how
(09:12:00) (Raleigh) well ok bill
(09:12:06) (merlin) what about new york
(09:12:14) (host-merri) yes Bill actions set in motion long ago
(09:12:15) (Raleigh) oh yes i see bill yes
(09:12:16) (Roz) and building 10 ' below sea level
(09:12:25) (merlin) or seattle
(09:12:31) (Qrious) Free will Ral.. remember.. for he had not willed to lose.. any.
(09:12:41) (Raleigh) souls
(09:12:50) (Raleigh) not physical
(09:13:00) (Raleigh) souls q
(09:13:42) (host-merri) let's get back on track..lol
(09:14:02) (host-merri) interesting dream merlin, ty for sharing
(09:17:23) (Raleigh) so i was in a ghost town / there waqs a new buisness there / a glass shop / very new and nice / i went in and began to fill a special vase that filled on the side - then i drank from the top / it was labeled ed cayce / the attendant came to me and spoke / right then a very nice dish was stolen off the wall / nice colors and appeared as 2 shells nested / i was going to catch the thief running and was stopped by the cleck / she said thats ok and put a new di
(09:17:50) (Raleigh) i have already had thoughts as to interpretation
(09:18:29) (host-merri) cutoff after put a new di ??
(09:19:02) (Raleigh) ojh
(09:19:08) (Raleigh) yes a new dish
(09:19:12) (Raleigh) end dream
(09:19:30) (Raleigh) new dish replaced
(09:20:39) (Raleigh) she put up a new glassware and said thats ok allow the thief to go
(09:20:51) (BlackWolf) Blessings man, we saw Lilacangel yesterday
(09:21:08) (Raleigh) i see stuff
(09:21:17) (Raleigh) want me to say it
(09:21:22) (host-merri) what do you see Ral
(09:21:38) (Raleigh) the ghost towmn i am lonely
(09:21:42) (Bill) your female side is more forgiving than your male side? :o)
(09:21:54) (Raleigh) i get spirit food via ec and script
(09:22:05) (Raleigh) the nice dish is my life
(09:22:13) (Raleigh) it was taken as you know
(09:22:19) (Raleigh) she was god
(09:22:26) (Raleigh) god said its ok
(09:22:41) (Raleigh) thats what i see
(09:23:21) (host-merri) that is very good insite Ral
(09:24:16) (host-merri) Bill also has a good point
(09:24:35) (host-merri) don't chase the robber, forgive
(09:24:39) (Bill) Ral did a good job he doesn't need us :o(
(09:24:43) (Raleigh) what do you see merri
(09:25:35) (host-merri) you are taking nourishment where needed but must let go also
(09:26:32) (Raleigh) yes merri
(09:26:34) (Raleigh) i will
(09:26:40) (Raleigh) let go
(09:27:26) (Raleigh) see the shell shapes
(09:27:34) (Raleigh) sacred geometry
(09:27:36) (Raleigh) :)
(09:27:40) (merlin) the 2 shells nesting together / self and other.......stay together or split
(09:27:56) (Raleigh) wow yes merlin
(09:28:27) (Raleigh) k
(09:28:31) (Raleigh) tx gang
(09:28:48) (host-merri) TY for sharing Ral
(09:29:06) (Raleigh) dreamz are fun
(09:29:10) (host-merri) anyone else with a dream to share
(09:31:03) (Raleigh) i dont dream color
(09:31:08) (host-merri) it's good to keep a journal of your dreams
(09:31:09) (Raleigh) i did the plates
(09:31:16) (Raleigh) green
(09:31:21) (Raleigh) gold
(09:31:30) (host-merri) life force
(09:31:32) (Raleigh) the cayce vase was black
(09:31:42) (host-merri) barriers
(09:31:47) (merlin) yes Raleigh
(09:31:51) (Raleigh) looked like a tea pot
(09:31:55) (Mandy) humm
(09:32:04) (Raleigh) as
(09:32:24) (Raleigh) anyway ty group
(09:32:46) (Qrious) what does tornadoes mean to you merri?
(09:32:56) (host-merri) anyone have any questions about dreaming
(09:33:12) (host-merri) turbulance, trouble, stormy path ahead
(09:33:34) (Qrious) how about dark skies and purple lightning?
(09:33:38) (patricia) did you dream of a tornado, Q?
(09:33:39) (Bill) or watching the news before going to bed
(09:33:49) (Roz) could you repeat the first posts you did tonite merri please
(09:33:53) (host-merri) lol, Bill
(09:34:37) (Qrious) reaccuring dream.. just fishin' for another perspective.
(09:35:33) (Bear) does the lightening do anything
(09:36:11) (Qrious) just lights the darkened skyline Bear.
(09:36:39) (Qrious) and its not one tornado.. its like eight.
(09:37:43) (host-merri) the dark sky and lightening could symbolize an awakening, Q
(09:37:59) (Bill) good home work you did Merri
(09:38:00) (host-merri) light coming from darkness
(09:38:07) (Qrious) this lite.. only allowed the outline of the tornadoes to be seen.
(09:38:11) (Raleigh) recall i dreamed ofc my boss merri / drove mercedes into the sky / he is the only dream of 1 passed on ive ever had
(09:38:50) (host-merri) awakening coming from great turbulance (tornado's)
(09:39:05) (Qrious) appeared to be the end of the world to me..
(09:39:09) (Anne) unstable mind
(09:39:29) (host-merri) color purple, higher self, consciousness
(09:39:59) (Bill) Q your createing unnecessary turbulance in your life God's power comes to us in many forms
(09:40:17) (Bear) all that vibration emitting and coming out of the hand
(09:40:26) (Bill) or i should maybe say shows its self to us in many forms
(09:40:43) (Qrious) I couldn't escape.. the only thing I could do was pray.. as a last resort.. and I awoke... it felt so real.. the roaring of the air.. the thundering and shaking of the home I was in.. blew me away.
(09:41:08) (host-merri) be prepared Q
(09:41:50) (host-merri) Cayce says our dreams should make our knees shake!!
(09:41:56) (Raleigh) dont masake prayer 1z last resort i see
(09:42:03) (Bill) all Q needs doing is chooseing a path less turbulant
(09:42:05) (Raleigh) make it 1st
(09:42:07) (Qrious) well thanks for listening. I will dwell on your answers.
(09:42:13) (CoolRunningWaters) Yes Bill
(09:42:22) (Mandy) sounds like your kundalini was going for a spin
(09:44:36) (host-merri) interesting dreams tonight
(09:45:01) (host-merri) Thankyou all for sharing
(09:46:26) (Mandy) I dreamt a huge airplane crashed on my street
(09:47:23) (host-merri) anymore to dream Mandy?
(09:47:31) (Mandy) and suddenly there was no food for the people to eat...I watced from above the scene
(09:47:52) (Bear) did you see it fall or had it already fallen
(09:47:57) (Mandy) that was it..I live near an airport
(09:48:00) (Bill) its telling you to get your feet back on the ground Mandy :o)
(09:48:17) (Mandy) it had already fallen when I saw it suddenly
(09:48:59) (Raleigh) a recent dream?
(09:49:59) (Raleigh) where
(09:50:00) (host-merri) hard landing, needs nourishment
(09:50:05) (Raleigh) your street
(09:50:11) (BlackWolf) Water a symbol of the universal subconsciousness.
(09:50:11) (Mandy) my street
(09:50:13) (man) maybe move be more safer Q ;-)
(09:50:17) (Raleigh) o
(09:50:21) (Raleigh) yes
(09:50:30) (Raleigh) mandy eat better
(09:50:34) (Mandy) I am supposed to be here
(09:50:36) (Bear) something with your will as in mind
(09:50:45) (Raleigh) or expect a crash
(09:50:49) (Mandy) I eat very healthy things mostly Ral..lol
(09:51:04) (Raleigh) well
(09:51:08) (Bear) able to direct power
(09:51:10) (Raleigh) dont crash
(09:51:34) (Qrious) who was in need of the food?
(09:51:49) (Mandy) all the people on the ground
(09:51:55) (host-merri) good thought Bear
(09:52:07) (Raleigh) famine is expected soon
(09:52:18) (Raleigh) and a crash to
(09:52:21) (Mandy) yes it was like famine
(09:52:25) (Raleigh) earthchanges
(09:52:29) (Bear) better than a big tipper a big hugger
(09:53:13) (Raleigh) well mandy
(09:53:15) (host-merri) could be lack of food for thought
(09:53:24) (Raleigh) leave southland pls
(09:53:26) (Mandy) that is very true Bear
(09:53:33) (Raleigh) soon
(09:53:48) (Qrious) maybe it was mans accomplishments.. technology.. relying to heavely upon them.. that they fed themselves on that came crashing down instead?
(09:54:05) (Raleigh) get outta there mandy
(09:54:08) (Anne) mandy if you crash all of the animals that depend on you will go hungry
(09:54:13) (man) why did the plane crash
(09:54:17) (BlackWolf) Be on the lookout for earthquakes, this next week also, Mandy. Talk to your plant and bird friends, and see how they are. :o)
(09:54:29) (Anne) ready to give in
(09:54:33) (Qrious) a plane is man made achievements.. to get to another heights?
(09:54:38) (Mandy) It was probably brought on by a plane that could not land here the other day as the whells would not come down
(09:54:55) (Raleigh) oh yes i saw that
(09:55:04) (Mandy) so it went somewhere else and somehow landed safely
(09:55:15) (Raleigh) was that the plane
(09:55:15) (host-merri) aaahhh yes and that plane landed safely
(09:55:48) (Raleigh) i feel still you mean so calif crashes mandy
(09:55:52) (Qrious) good nite all thanks for the class.
(09:56:33) (man) were the people on the plane killed?
(09:57:40) (Mandy) all the people were safe in the landing
(09:58:07) (man) were the people on plane hungry?
(09:58:17) (Mandy) lol...I don't know
(09:58:25) (Mandy) hummm
(09:58:31) (man) did they look skinny hehe
(09:58:31) (Raleigh) those on the ground
(10:02:15) (Raleigh) merri pls say how dreams are best recalled pls
(10:02:57) (host-merri) write on a pad, before going to sleep, I will remember my dreams
(10:03:39) (Raleigh) see ec on how dreamz are recalled through suggestion crystal
(10:03:56) (host-merri) you can recall your dreams crystal, all it takes is some effort
(10:03:57) (crystal) k Raleigh thanks
(10:05:21) (crystal) merri would you tell how to recall dreams please?
(10:05:43) (host-merri) keep a pad and pencil by your bed crystal and when you awaken write down anything you remember
(10:05:57) (host-merri) even if it's only bits and pieces
(10:06:29) (host-merri) take note of how you feel also
(10:06:38) (host-merri) upon awakening
(10:07:26) (Raleigh) as you drift to sleep is the best time to suggest you recall a dream / at that time suggest anything as well / ask / then as you sleep your soul goes to god crystal
(10:07:34) (host-merri) before going to sleep write down "I will recall my dreams"
(10:08:33) (host-merri) yes it is best to write it down
(10:08:47) (crystal) lol...I did it couple of nights only
(10:08:56) (crystal) nothing happened
(10:09:05) (host-merri) keep trying
(10:09:22) (crystal) I do it
(10:09:57) (crystal) when I used to work at the casino it was so noisey
(10:10:30) (crystal) I think that's hard to quiet my mind down
(10:10:57) (host-merri) do you get enough sleep, crystal?
(10:11:08) (crystal) yes...I beleive so
(10:11:16) (host-merri) sometimes not enough sleep hinders dream recall
(10:11:34) (crystal) I did have more dreams when I was in the woods
(10:11:56) (crystal) I remembered more dreams
(10:12:59) (host-merri) that is understandable
(10:13:02) (crystal) how do you identify which dream is sending massenge?
(10:13:10) (host-merri) a more tranquil setting
(10:13:11) (crystal) or just dreams?
(10:13:37) (host-merri) you would have to record your dreams and look for patterns
(10:13:54) (crystal) I see
(10:14:16) (host-merri) most dreams are a sifting of our experiences
(10:14:16) (host-merri) most dreams are a sifting of our experiences
(10:14:51) (host-merri) but the more you work with your dreams the more will come thru
(10:15:09) (crystal) I will do it
(10:17:18) (crystal) merri thanks so much
(08:32:07) (host-merri) Cayce has some things to say about that
(08:32:52) (host-merri) here are some posts on that subject for you to consider
(08:33:40) (host-merri) First of all, one is ready for such dreams when he has them. His subconscious will not feed him experiences he can’t handle if he chooses to do so. Secondly, one is ready for dream contact with the dead when he will not speak lightly of them. In Cayce’s view, such dreams could mean dangerous escapism.
(08:34:24) (host-merri) Thirdly, one is ready for dreams of the dead when he soundly loves and serves the living, such dreams always come for a personal reason, a personal growth of the dreamer, or some concrete service in the regular round of his daily life.
(08:34:40) (ky-mike) dreams , another way of contact
(08:35:12) (host-merri) Fourthly, one is ready for dreams of the dead when he is as ready to give aid to the dead as to receive it. When prayer for a discarnate comes freely and naturally to mind, then visions of them may follow. Any other approach tends to be exploitive.
(08:35:15) (toitle) Can anyone explain thatfirst post e:dangerous escapism
(08:36:13) (Raleigh) only once merri for me / dreaming of the passed on
(08:36:16) (Qrious) trippin.
(08:36:17) (host-merri) for some it may become away of not accepting the passing of a loved one
(08:36:34) (toitle) k ty
(08:37:06) (host-merri) Fifthly, one is ready for dreams of dead loved ones when he has worked through his grief and guilts regarding them and forgiving them for hurts to himself. Lack of this makes a nearly impenetrable barrier.
(08:37:06) (vjh) My grandmother came to me in a dream 10 years ago to show me an earth change to come.
(08:37:31) (Raleigh) what was it vj
(08:37:59) (vjh) She was standing in front of me and pointing to the river and said it would make a sharp turn.
(08:38:01) (host-merri) Finally, one may dream of the dead when his own full life draws to its natural close, and it is time for him to prepare for the next journey.
(08:38:48) (host-merri) Contrary to what the living may think, according to Cayce, not a few of the dreams where the living meet the dead are for the sake of the dead. Sometimes the dead simply want to be known and recognized as still existent.
(08:39:07) (Roz) and a last loving thng we can do for a loved one is to release them
(08:39:21) (host-merri) agree Roz
(08:39:45) (host-merri) Cayce also warned that to seek contact too often with a discarnate would bring distress to the discarnate, holding the dead back from their own full journey. Yet he also added that there was also distress brought to them “by not understanding, by not hearing, the call”.
(08:40:07) (Roz) we keep them earth bound by weeping and contacting them
(08:40:44) (host-merri) Yet contact between the dead and the living can be joyous. Sometimes it occurs because the dead want to show the living what death is like, to take away their fear and grief.
(08:40:57) (Raleigh) and best to give them flwers while they are with us rather than at thier funeral ec said too
(08:41:13) (Qrious) thats kinda a selfish emotion eh. . Roz.. mourning a loss.
(08:41:16) (host-merri) In dreams the eternal can be hidden in the ordinary. This was the promise Edgar Cayce’s readings perceived in all dreaming, for all dreamers.
(08:41:34) (Roz) no it is serving no one
(08:41:55) (Roz) only sorry for yourself
(08:42:00) (Raleigh) as they are still living ok
(08:42:42) (host-merri) ok anyone with a dream to share
(08:42:56) (merlin) i do merri
(08:43:09) (host-merri) ok merlin
(08:43:21) (host-merri) take center stage!
(08:43:25) (merlin) ok
(08:43:37) (Raleigh) gimme a 5 minute warning merri / i have 1 asc well
(08:44:17) (merlin) i was in a large group of people somewhere outside near buildings that had tro do with government
(08:45:01) (merlin) there were small steps all the way up to the entry way
(08:46:15) (merlin) there i was right in the middle of the pack of people when it started
(08:47:25) (merlin) . there was water at our feet and it seemed to be crawling up the steps , like it was deliberately seeking us out
(08:48:13) (merlin) at first it seemed like there was a purpose behind it
(08:49:05) (merlin) it got to deep suddenly and no one was able to go back down the steps
(08:49:23) (vjh) it has the sounds of what recently happened down south, flood water coming up.
(08:49:52) (merlin) there seemed to be an intelligent force behind the creeping water.
(08:50:12) (merlin) it was acting as if it were stalking us.
(08:51:41) (merlin) i was then i was . pushed forward in time and i find i am on some type of boat a raft or barge.
(08:52:36) (merlin) there were others on this boat and we were traveling up stream
(08:53:11) (merlin) all we could see was water all around us . no dryt land insight .
(08:53:52) (merlin) i remembered the movie waterworld was like this. always looking for dry land
(08:54:09) (merlin) and that seemed to be the end of the dream.
(08:54:17) (Roz) merlin do y feel over whelmed at some form of the government?
(08:54:57) (vjh) It kind of sounds like the way the people in New Orleans must have felt.
(08:55:04) (ron) government = authority = in charge of life
(08:55:21) (vjh) It may be a dream about earth changes to come.
(08:55:50) (ron) once one stsarts to climb upward there is no turning back
(08:55:50) (Bill) when you put your faith in the One,Sourse of all life, and take 1 small step at a time there'll be no need for you to be going upsteam
(08:56:11) (merlin) all of itroz
(08:56:21) (vjh) What does going upstream mean verses going downstream?
(08:56:35) (ron) there is intellectual guidance behind it all as symbolized by the government
(08:56:37) (merlin) gain
(08:56:38) (host-merri) or finding yourself afloat looking for dry land
(08:56:55) (Raleigh) i see that it may be our futer / as arth chages happen yes many will be at sea suddenly / and all would run to government for amswers / mnow yes we are not of this world so i see that you saw it had intent to harm us / the earth / so i feel your dream may be prophetic merlin
(08:57:00) (Bill) we have choices vjh take the hard way or the easy way
(08:57:05) (ron) being perceived as stalking is fear setting in
(08:57:27) (vjh) which one is the hard way, going upstream?
(08:57:35) (host-merri) good point ron
(08:57:35) (Bill) yes
(08:57:43) (Roz) I think it is about how you feel right now not prophetic
(08:57:47) (ron) upstream is a harder path
(08:58:03) (ron) dry land looking for safety
(08:58:33) (vjh) yes, but if you're going downstream, you don't have to put any energy into it. You can just float. Going upstream, you have to paddle.
(08:58:53) (Qrious) sounds like you just had a universal conscious dream like it Carl Jungs teachings.. you simply tapped into all of the other peoples dreams from New Orleans.
(08:58:55) (ron) downstream = easy going
(08:59:04) (ron) going with the flow
(08:59:09) (host-merri) it can also be going against the tide, so to speak, vjh
(08:59:12) (merlin) how i saw it / was our government ( bush) has been completely responsible for the katrina and rita hurricanes
(08:59:21) (Raleigh) so the way i see it you told the futher merlin / its going to happen all round the world when the axis shifts
(08:59:49) (vjh) How can Bush be responsible for the hurricanes?
(09:00:00) (ron) i believe that was used as a stimulas to your dream...the government example
(09:00:03) (Raleigh) like a karma of america merlin ?
(09:00:09) (toitle) through negligence
(09:00:11) (merlin) hi ral, yes that's the gist of it.
(09:00:18) (BlackWolf) The karma of a war mentality?
(09:00:21) (Bill) merlin we must each take responsibility for what goes on around us pointed the finger at anyone is not benificail
(09:00:45) (vjh) It would be interesting to be able to talk to those people from New Orleans and see if they had dreams about what happened a few days before it happened.
(09:01:10) (Raleigh) new orleans was pretty rowdy so as the stories of cities basd snuffed this may be so in this case then
(09:01:34) (Roz) you are so right Bill
(09:01:45) (toitle) yup BW but also it is higher way to peace this exhausting of resources guarantees that there can be no more wars
(09:01:46) (merlin) i agree bill but with what i have been reading weather manipulation is possible.
(09:02:20) (vjh) You're saying Bush created the hurricanes?
(09:02:31) (host-merri) even if possible merlin, what would be the motive?
(09:02:32) (toitle) three strikes your out!
(09:02:33) (Raleigh) so you feel its recent events rather than the future ok
(09:02:45) (merlin) his underlings have carried out his orders
(09:02:48) (ron) who ever created it, if that was done, God permitted it
(09:03:10) (Roz) preposterous
(09:03:36) (Bill) i don't think any of us are in any position to judge the initiation of any disaster
(09:03:39) (Raleigh) 1 more thing / all leaders are given that possition by god btw
(09:03:58) (Qrious) I would have to agree with merlin vjh.. as far as the weather being manipulated.. there is a device in Alaska that is already being questioned by the Alaskan state.
(09:04:48) (host-merri) what would be the motivation Q?
(09:05:28) (Qrious) that would sound kinda correct about God permitting the weather to happen ron.. its almost like the story about Atlantis.. but I wonder.. did he really wished our folly or just let us do ourselves in?
(09:05:52) (ron) results of human misconduct
(09:05:54) (vjh) Yes, he and the governor and the mayor were all negligent after the hurricane. I think the LA governor acted terrible, TERRIBLE.
(09:05:58) (host-merri) LOL Q! the last most likely
(09:06:02) (Raleigh) yes ron
(09:06:09) (ron) thus, laws are brought into activity
(09:06:15) (ron) the laws of God
(09:06:23) (vjh) Getting back to what Merlin said, you mean there's some device in Alaska that can make weather?
(09:06:29) (BlackWolf) The people who did not fund the repair of the levees for years and years are greatly responsible.
(09:06:48) (Raleigh) well yes q / the breakup of atlanis is being reapeated
(09:06:49) (Qrious) I really don't know merri.. about the motivation.. but we did do nuclear tests and blast sites before we trully understood the enormous effects of fall out.
(09:07:11) (Bill) Ral thought you had a dream to share
(09:07:24) (Raleigh) now merri?
(09:07:25) (vjh) That's true too Black Wolf. I heard someone on a news channel saying that the LA governor couldn't be trusted with money to repair the levees because she had already been given money for that and instead she spent it on casinos.
(09:07:28) (Qrious) That is what is being looked into.. vjh.
(09:07:34) (merlin) that alaskan thing has something to do with haarp / scalar waves too .
(09:07:52) (Raleigh) probly not i feel vj
(09:07:56) (Roz) yes they used federal funds allocated for levee reparis for the astodome and casinos
(09:07:58) (ron) that old Tesla stuff
(09:08:09) (merlin) i read about them but don't exactly understand what scalar waves are.
(09:08:17) (vjh) What's Tesla?
(09:08:26) (toitle) I heard his testimony before the the judiciary and that man talks like a sociopath
(09:08:28) (Qrious) The money was also given to private schools .
(09:08:39) (Raleigh) an electrician kinda lol
(09:08:47) (Raleigh) a man vj
(09:09:09) (Qrious) Tesla rules... rock band ya'll.
(09:09:50) (host-merri) New Orleans disaster goes way back
(09:10:04) (vjh) That dream of yours Merlin really has alot in it that makes one think of New Orleans.
(09:10:07) (Roz) corruption for decades
(09:10:07) (host-merri) what happened recently is the results
(09:10:21) (Qrious) and yes merlin is correct in suggesting the HAARP in Alaska.
(09:10:25) (Raleigh) its atlantis again ill say
(09:10:36) (Raleigh) repeated
(09:10:48) (Raleigh) yes roz
(09:10:52) (host-merri) right Roz, it didn't happen overnight
(09:10:57) (Raleigh) as citied destroyed
(09:11:00) (Raleigh) by god
(09:11:17) (Raleigh) cities
(09:11:28) (BlackWolf) Rising sea levels of six feet every 100 years, plus the natural subsidence of that part of the continent, and the fact that New Orleans had already had a couple of close escapes the last couple of years.
(09:11:36) (Bill) no Ral by mans putting laws into action
(09:11:38) (Raleigh) la is next
(09:11:44) (Raleigh) its obvious
(09:11:56) (Raleigh) how
(09:12:00) (Raleigh) well ok bill
(09:12:06) (merlin) what about new york
(09:12:14) (host-merri) yes Bill actions set in motion long ago
(09:12:15) (Raleigh) oh yes i see bill yes
(09:12:16) (Roz) and building 10 ' below sea level
(09:12:25) (merlin) or seattle
(09:12:31) (Qrious) Free will Ral.. remember.. for he had not willed to lose.. any.
(09:12:41) (Raleigh) souls
(09:12:50) (Raleigh) not physical
(09:13:00) (Raleigh) souls q
(09:13:42) (host-merri) let's get back on track..lol
(09:14:02) (host-merri) interesting dream merlin, ty for sharing
(09:17:23) (Raleigh) so i was in a ghost town / there waqs a new buisness there / a glass shop / very new and nice / i went in and began to fill a special vase that filled on the side - then i drank from the top / it was labeled ed cayce / the attendant came to me and spoke / right then a very nice dish was stolen off the wall / nice colors and appeared as 2 shells nested / i was going to catch the thief running and was stopped by the cleck / she said thats ok and put a new di
(09:17:50) (Raleigh) i have already had thoughts as to interpretation
(09:18:29) (host-merri) cutoff after put a new di ??
(09:19:02) (Raleigh) ojh
(09:19:08) (Raleigh) yes a new dish
(09:19:12) (Raleigh) end dream
(09:19:30) (Raleigh) new dish replaced
(09:20:39) (Raleigh) she put up a new glassware and said thats ok allow the thief to go
(09:20:51) (BlackWolf) Blessings man, we saw Lilacangel yesterday
(09:21:08) (Raleigh) i see stuff
(09:21:17) (Raleigh) want me to say it
(09:21:22) (host-merri) what do you see Ral
(09:21:38) (Raleigh) the ghost towmn i am lonely
(09:21:42) (Bill) your female side is more forgiving than your male side? :o)
(09:21:54) (Raleigh) i get spirit food via ec and script
(09:22:05) (Raleigh) the nice dish is my life
(09:22:13) (Raleigh) it was taken as you know
(09:22:19) (Raleigh) she was god
(09:22:26) (Raleigh) god said its ok
(09:22:41) (Raleigh) thats what i see
(09:23:21) (host-merri) that is very good insite Ral
(09:24:16) (host-merri) Bill also has a good point
(09:24:35) (host-merri) don't chase the robber, forgive
(09:24:39) (Bill) Ral did a good job he doesn't need us :o(
(09:24:43) (Raleigh) what do you see merri
(09:25:35) (host-merri) you are taking nourishment where needed but must let go also
(09:26:32) (Raleigh) yes merri
(09:26:34) (Raleigh) i will
(09:26:40) (Raleigh) let go
(09:27:26) (Raleigh) see the shell shapes
(09:27:34) (Raleigh) sacred geometry
(09:27:36) (Raleigh) :)
(09:27:40) (merlin) the 2 shells nesting together / self and other.......stay together or split
(09:27:56) (Raleigh) wow yes merlin
(09:28:27) (Raleigh) k
(09:28:31) (Raleigh) tx gang
(09:28:48) (host-merri) TY for sharing Ral
(09:29:06) (Raleigh) dreamz are fun
(09:29:10) (host-merri) anyone else with a dream to share
(09:31:03) (Raleigh) i dont dream color
(09:31:08) (host-merri) it's good to keep a journal of your dreams
(09:31:09) (Raleigh) i did the plates
(09:31:16) (Raleigh) green
(09:31:21) (Raleigh) gold
(09:31:30) (host-merri) life force
(09:31:32) (Raleigh) the cayce vase was black
(09:31:42) (host-merri) barriers
(09:31:47) (merlin) yes Raleigh
(09:31:51) (Raleigh) looked like a tea pot
(09:31:55) (Mandy) humm
(09:32:04) (Raleigh) as
(09:32:24) (Raleigh) anyway ty group
(09:32:46) (Qrious) what does tornadoes mean to you merri?
(09:32:56) (host-merri) anyone have any questions about dreaming
(09:33:12) (host-merri) turbulance, trouble, stormy path ahead
(09:33:34) (Qrious) how about dark skies and purple lightning?
(09:33:38) (patricia) did you dream of a tornado, Q?
(09:33:39) (Bill) or watching the news before going to bed
(09:33:49) (Roz) could you repeat the first posts you did tonite merri please
(09:33:53) (host-merri) lol, Bill
(09:34:37) (Qrious) reaccuring dream.. just fishin' for another perspective.
(09:35:33) (Bear) does the lightening do anything
(09:36:11) (Qrious) just lights the darkened skyline Bear.
(09:36:39) (Qrious) and its not one tornado.. its like eight.
(09:37:43) (host-merri) the dark sky and lightening could symbolize an awakening, Q
(09:37:59) (Bill) good home work you did Merri
(09:38:00) (host-merri) light coming from darkness
(09:38:07) (Qrious) this lite.. only allowed the outline of the tornadoes to be seen.
(09:38:11) (Raleigh) recall i dreamed ofc my boss merri / drove mercedes into the sky / he is the only dream of 1 passed on ive ever had
(09:38:50) (host-merri) awakening coming from great turbulance (tornado's)
(09:39:05) (Qrious) appeared to be the end of the world to me..
(09:39:09) (Anne) unstable mind
(09:39:29) (host-merri) color purple, higher self, consciousness
(09:39:59) (Bill) Q your createing unnecessary turbulance in your life God's power comes to us in many forms
(09:40:17) (Bear) all that vibration emitting and coming out of the hand
(09:40:26) (Bill) or i should maybe say shows its self to us in many forms
(09:40:43) (Qrious) I couldn't escape.. the only thing I could do was pray.. as a last resort.. and I awoke... it felt so real.. the roaring of the air.. the thundering and shaking of the home I was in.. blew me away.
(09:41:08) (host-merri) be prepared Q
(09:41:50) (host-merri) Cayce says our dreams should make our knees shake!!
(09:41:56) (Raleigh) dont masake prayer 1z last resort i see
(09:42:03) (Bill) all Q needs doing is chooseing a path less turbulant
(09:42:05) (Raleigh) make it 1st
(09:42:07) (Qrious) well thanks for listening. I will dwell on your answers.
(09:42:13) (CoolRunningWaters) Yes Bill
(09:42:22) (Mandy) sounds like your kundalini was going for a spin
(09:44:36) (host-merri) interesting dreams tonight
(09:45:01) (host-merri) Thankyou all for sharing
(09:46:26) (Mandy) I dreamt a huge airplane crashed on my street
(09:47:23) (host-merri) anymore to dream Mandy?
(09:47:31) (Mandy) and suddenly there was no food for the people to eat...I watced from above the scene
(09:47:52) (Bear) did you see it fall or had it already fallen
(09:47:57) (Mandy) that was it..I live near an airport
(09:48:00) (Bill) its telling you to get your feet back on the ground Mandy :o)
(09:48:17) (Mandy) it had already fallen when I saw it suddenly
(09:48:59) (Raleigh) a recent dream?
(09:49:59) (Raleigh) where
(09:50:00) (host-merri) hard landing, needs nourishment
(09:50:05) (Raleigh) your street
(09:50:11) (BlackWolf) Water a symbol of the universal subconsciousness.
(09:50:11) (Mandy) my street
(09:50:13) (man) maybe move be more safer Q ;-)
(09:50:17) (Raleigh) o
(09:50:21) (Raleigh) yes
(09:50:30) (Raleigh) mandy eat better
(09:50:34) (Mandy) I am supposed to be here
(09:50:36) (Bear) something with your will as in mind
(09:50:45) (Raleigh) or expect a crash
(09:50:49) (Mandy) I eat very healthy things mostly Ral..lol
(09:51:04) (Raleigh) well
(09:51:08) (Bear) able to direct power
(09:51:10) (Raleigh) dont crash
(09:51:34) (Qrious) who was in need of the food?
(09:51:49) (Mandy) all the people on the ground
(09:51:55) (host-merri) good thought Bear
(09:52:07) (Raleigh) famine is expected soon
(09:52:18) (Raleigh) and a crash to
(09:52:21) (Mandy) yes it was like famine
(09:52:25) (Raleigh) earthchanges
(09:52:29) (Bear) better than a big tipper a big hugger
(09:53:13) (Raleigh) well mandy
(09:53:15) (host-merri) could be lack of food for thought
(09:53:24) (Raleigh) leave southland pls
(09:53:26) (Mandy) that is very true Bear
(09:53:33) (Raleigh) soon
(09:53:48) (Qrious) maybe it was mans accomplishments.. technology.. relying to heavely upon them.. that they fed themselves on that came crashing down instead?
(09:54:05) (Raleigh) get outta there mandy
(09:54:08) (Anne) mandy if you crash all of the animals that depend on you will go hungry
(09:54:13) (man) why did the plane crash
(09:54:17) (BlackWolf) Be on the lookout for earthquakes, this next week also, Mandy. Talk to your plant and bird friends, and see how they are. :o)
(09:54:29) (Anne) ready to give in
(09:54:33) (Qrious) a plane is man made achievements.. to get to another heights?
(09:54:38) (Mandy) It was probably brought on by a plane that could not land here the other day as the whells would not come down
(09:54:55) (Raleigh) oh yes i saw that
(09:55:04) (Mandy) so it went somewhere else and somehow landed safely
(09:55:15) (Raleigh) was that the plane
(09:55:15) (host-merri) aaahhh yes and that plane landed safely
(09:55:48) (Raleigh) i feel still you mean so calif crashes mandy
(09:55:52) (Qrious) good nite all thanks for the class.
(09:56:33) (man) were the people on the plane killed?
(09:57:40) (Mandy) all the people were safe in the landing
(09:58:07) (man) were the people on plane hungry?
(09:58:17) (Mandy) lol...I don't know
(09:58:25) (Mandy) hummm
(09:58:31) (man) did they look skinny hehe
(09:58:31) (Raleigh) those on the ground
(10:02:15) (Raleigh) merri pls say how dreams are best recalled pls
(10:02:57) (host-merri) write on a pad, before going to sleep, I will remember my dreams
(10:03:39) (Raleigh) see ec on how dreamz are recalled through suggestion crystal
(10:03:56) (host-merri) you can recall your dreams crystal, all it takes is some effort
(10:03:57) (crystal) k Raleigh thanks
(10:05:21) (crystal) merri would you tell how to recall dreams please?
(10:05:43) (host-merri) keep a pad and pencil by your bed crystal and when you awaken write down anything you remember
(10:05:57) (host-merri) even if it's only bits and pieces
(10:06:29) (host-merri) take note of how you feel also
(10:06:38) (host-merri) upon awakening
(10:07:26) (Raleigh) as you drift to sleep is the best time to suggest you recall a dream / at that time suggest anything as well / ask / then as you sleep your soul goes to god crystal
(10:07:34) (host-merri) before going to sleep write down "I will recall my dreams"
(10:08:33) (host-merri) yes it is best to write it down
(10:08:47) (crystal) lol...I did it couple of nights only
(10:08:56) (crystal) nothing happened
(10:09:05) (host-merri) keep trying
(10:09:22) (crystal) I do it
(10:09:57) (crystal) when I used to work at the casino it was so noisey
(10:10:30) (crystal) I think that's hard to quiet my mind down
(10:10:57) (host-merri) do you get enough sleep, crystal?
(10:11:08) (crystal) yes...I beleive so
(10:11:16) (host-merri) sometimes not enough sleep hinders dream recall
(10:11:34) (crystal) I did have more dreams when I was in the woods
(10:11:56) (crystal) I remembered more dreams
(10:12:59) (host-merri) that is understandable
(10:13:02) (crystal) how do you identify which dream is sending massenge?
(10:13:10) (host-merri) a more tranquil setting
(10:13:11) (crystal) or just dreams?
(10:13:37) (host-merri) you would have to record your dreams and look for patterns
(10:13:54) (crystal) I see
(10:14:16) (host-merri) most dreams are a sifting of our experiences
(10:14:16) (host-merri) most dreams are a sifting of our experiences
(10:14:51) (host-merri) but the more you work with your dreams the more will come thru
(10:15:09) (crystal) I will do it
(10:17:18) (crystal) merri thanks so much
