Cayce on the Sixth Sense:04-05-2007 Apr 5, 2007 19:11:41 GMT -5
Post by Blu on Apr 5, 2007 19:11:41 GMT -5
Text Of Reading 5754-3
[14:50] <merlin-> alpha and omega no matter what the plan . always on course for the omniverse
[14:50] <miketrueeagle> o blessed Father in heaven ... watch over us.. an make us a tool of thy will
[14:51] <miketrueeagle> AMEN ^I^
[14:51] <Host-Blu> Amen
[14:51] <ron> amen
[14:51] <merlin-> Amen
[14:51] <Host-Blu> OK, I hope this is not the one I did last time
[14:52] <Host-Blu> we will see!
[14:54] <Host-Blu> Text Of Reading 5754-3
[14:54] <Host-Blu> EC: Yes, we have that which has been given here. Now, as we have that condition that exists with the body and this functioning, or this sense, or this ability of sleep and sense, or a sixth sense, just what, how, may this knowledge be used to advantage for an individual's development towards that it would attain?
[14:54] <Host-Blu> As to how it may be used, then, depends upon what is the ideal of that individual; for, as has been so well pointed out in Holy Writ, if the ideal of the individual is lost,
[14:55] <Host-Blu> then the abilities for that faculty or that sense of an individual to contact the spiritual forces are gradually lost, or barriers are builded that prevent this from being a sensing of the nearness of an individual to a spiritual development.
[14:55] <Host-Blu> Would someone translate this in their own words please?
[14:56] <shelley> i' just here for a few minutes, lunch hour is short
[14:56] <shelley> hi ron and merlin and miketrueeagle
[14:56] <Host-Blu> ok, Shelley, but thanks for coming !
[14:57] <shelley> thanks for letting me !!
[14:57] <merlin-> could the sixth sense actually be an extension of our plane into the 4th and 5th planes , where one is actually able to feel other more spiritual knowing's
[14:58] <ron> regarding the development of the 6th sense....if one loses the high ideal in its use, barriers will be set up to block such capabilities
[14:58] <Host-Blu> correct Ron
[14:58] <Host-Blu> I think you are right about that in a way Merlin
[14:59] <ron> essentially there are 5 senses for human life
[14:59] <Host-Blu> the 6th sense is a kind of activating power that brings that information from the higher realms to our physical awareness
[14:59] <merlin-> like a generator.....?
[14:59] <ron> the 6th sense suggests that there is something to be perceived that exists higher than the earthly 5 senses
[15:00] <Host-Blu> So the 6th sense is activated by our use and keeping our ideals
[15:00] <Host-Blu> that might be a good comparison Merlin
[15:01] <Host-Blu> the readings say that we do not have the words to fully describe the 6th sense, but you have to experience it to know what it is
[15:01] <Host-Blu> As to those who are nearer the spiritual realm, their visions, dreams, and the like, are more often - and are more often retained by the individual; for, as is seen as a first law, it is self-preservation
[15:02] <ron> my typos have disappeared for the moment :)
[15:02] <Host-Blu> now here we see him mention the first law....self preservation
[15:02] <Host-Blu> LOL Ron
[15:03] <Host-Blu> Then self rarely desires to condemn self, save when the selves are warring one with another, as are the elements within a body when eating of that which produces what is termed a nightmare - they are warring with the senses of the body, and partake either of those things that make afraid, or produce visions of the nature as partaking of the elements that are taken within the system, and active within same itself. These may be given as examples of what it is all about.
[15:04] <Host-Blu> so we are really talking here about more than one self in our mind
[15:04] <Host-Blu> can you tell me what we call those different selves?
[15:04] <Host-Blu> or in our being I guess is more accurate
[15:04] <merlin-> alternate lives in different dimensions
[15:04] <shelley> is that the personality and individuality? Blu?
[15:05] <Host-Blu> that is part of it Shelly, if you mean by individuality the Higher self or that which is of the soul
[15:05] <Host-Blu> Higher self and soul are not the same, as far as I can tell
[15:05] <Host-Blu> personality is the waking self
[15:06] <Host-Blu> soul is what we have built
[15:06] <shelley> I'm just learning Blu !
[15:06] <Host-Blu> and higher self is always before God
[15:06] <Host-Blu> so am I Shelley!
[15:06] <Host-Blu> what do you say Ron?
[15:06] <ron> sorry
[15:06] <merlin-> and mind is part of that ???
[15:06] <Host-Blu> Mind....
[15:07] <Host-Blu> well there are different kinds of mind
[15:07] <ron> it might be referring to..
[15:07] <Host-Blu> or should we say different levels
[15:07] <merlin-> mind is the builder
[15:07] <Host-Blu> yes
[15:07] <ron> the war between the mind and the emotions...the physical location of each determines its spiritual status
[15:08] <Host-Blu> Then, how may this be used to develop a body in its relationship to the material, the mental, and the spiritual forces?
[15:08] <ron> that is what i see as warring...what is asking place between the rational mind and the irrational emotional nature
[15:08] <merlin-> believe that could mean the soul is like a ladder to climb preferably upwards
[15:09] <Host-Blu> yes Merlin ...preferably!
[15:09] <Host-Blu> lets see what else the readings say to maybe make this clearer
[15:09] <Host-Blu> Whether the body desires or not, in sleep the consciousness physically is laid aside. As to what will be that it will seek, depends upon what has been builded as that it would associate itself with, physically, mentally, spiritually, and the closer the association in the mental mind in the
[15:10] <ron> its physical status in the human body, the mind is indicated as the highest in development, but the emotional body, having its seat in the solar plexus, indicates its spiritual status as compared to the mind, its seat being in the head
[15:10] <merlin-> soul could have always been for the incarnated on this earth on which to ascend or descend
[15:10] <Host-Blu> physical forces, in the physical attributes, are with spiritual elements, then - as has been seen by even those attempting to produce a certain character of vision or dream - these follow much in that; for another law that is universal becomes active
[15:10] <Host-Blu> both right
[15:11] <Host-Blu> so this is saying that no matter what the body wants when it's asleep all that is laid aside
[15:12] <ron> i know that I've moved along directions that are not really necessary to know here...but just thought I'd throw them in anyhow
[15:12] <Host-Blu> TY Ron
[15:12] <Host-Blu> so what it seeks in sleep depends on what the person has built
[15:13] <Host-Blu> and for people trying to attain a certain ideal then a universal law becomes active
[15:13] <Host-Blu> Like begets like! That which is sown in honor is reaped in glory. That which is sown in corruption cannot be reaped in glory; and the likings are associations that are the companions of that which has been builded; for such experiences as dreams, visions and the like, are but the ACTIVITIES in the unseen world of the real self of an entity.
[15:14] <Host-Blu> so we see in our dreams what our real self is seeking
[15:15] <Host-Blu> does that makes sense to you guys?
[15:16] <Host-Blu> so if you have a great dream of attaining some wonderful experience then what does that mean?
[15:16] <merlin-> attainment spiritually
[15:17] <ron> yes
[15:17] <Host-Blu> by that you mean Merlin, that you have been making head way toward your ideal?
[15:17] <merlin-> i certainly hope so
[15:17] <Host-Blu> LOL, me to
[15:17] <Host-Blu> so what does it mean if we have a nightmare?
[15:19] <merlin-> something is wrong / like what did u have for supper/ i find what i listen to on the radio makes me dream strangely
[15:19] <miketrueeagle> what dreams may become !... WARNINGS !
[15:19] <Host-Blu> some of my worst dreams have shown me that I am at conflict with myself
[15:19] <Host-Blu> and my ideals
[15:20] <Host-Blu> would we like an example of this?
[15:20] <merlin-> the other night i listened to coast to coast . it was about aliens etc. , i ended up dreaming i was one too
[15:20] <Host-Blu> that is interesting Merlin
[15:20] <Host-Blu> did that feel like a nightmare?
[15:20] <Host-Blu> or something else?
[15:21] <miketrueeagle> ART BELLS WIFE DIED.. BLESSINGS AN PRAYERS 4 HER
[15:21] <Host-Blu> Amen
[15:21] <ron> yes mike
[15:21] <merlin-> no . not a night mare as such , but interesting
[15:21] <miketrueeagle> C TO C..IS A GOOD SHOW
[15:21] <Host-Blu> yes, and point in fact we are aliens to this world
[15:22] <Host-Blu> so your dream was showing you who you really are Merlin
[15:22] <merlin-> coast to coast talk tells of lizard races who preceded us coming from space
[15:22] <Host-Blu> it can be a terrible struggle for a person who is aware they do not truly belong in this world
[15:23] <miketrueeagle> there r many races of aliens .. merlin
[15:23] <Host-Blu> Ready for questions
[15:23] <merlin-> maybe what is really true is that they are the original inhabitants and we are the space dwellers who came to look at this planet
[15:23] <Host-Blu> (Q) How may one train the sixth sense?
(A) This has just been given; that which is constantly associated in the mental visioning in the imaginative forces,
[15:24] <miketrueeagle> phil krapft.. has a great book.... the contact has begun
[15:24] <ron> maybe, at times, or at the time of the dream, you may not felt you are really part of this world, since you may have soo many responsibilities that they tend to overwhelm you?
[15:24] <miketrueeagle> MEDITATION BLU
[15:25] <Host-Blu> yes Mike, that is one way
[15:25] <Host-Blu> that which is constantly associated with the senses of the body, that will it develop toward. What is that which is and may be sought? When under stress MANY an individual - There are NO individuals who haven't at SOME TIME been warned as respecting that that may arise in their daily
[15:25] <merlin-> we are all off kilter now
[15:25] <Host-Blu> or physical experience! Have they heeded? Do they heed to that as may be given as advice? No! It must be experienced!
[15:25] <merlin-> need to get back to original material
[15:26] <Host-Blu> OK, lets make an extreme example of this so we can clearly see what it means
[15:26] <Host-Blu> lets use a person who always focuses on lets say pornography
[15:26] <Host-Blu> this person is continually using the physical sense in an abusive way
[15:27] <Host-Blu> abusive
[15:27] <miketrueeagle> a dark .. lost soul
[15:27] <Host-Blu> I would say that they would have terrible dreams!
[15:27] <Host-Blu> but a person who reads scripture and try's to obey it will have wonderful dreams
[15:28] <Host-Blu> what the reading is saying that the person has to go through the experience to realize the error
[15:28] <Host-Blu> like my typing, far from my ideal...LOL...will have typo error dreams!
[15:28] <Host-Blu> LOL
[15:29] <Host-Blu> (Q) How may one be constantly guided by the accompanying entity on guard at the Throne?
(A) It is there! It's as to whether they desire or not! It doesn't leave but is the active force? As to its ability to SENSE the variations in the experiences that are seen, is as has been given in the illustration - "As to whether in the body or out of the body,
[15:29] <miketrueeagle> PRAYERS ^I^
[15:30] <Host-Blu> I cannot tell." Hence this sense is that ability of the entity to associate its physical, mental or spiritual self to that realm that it, the entity, or the mind of the soul, seeks for its association during such periods - see?
[15:30] <Host-Blu> ok, to ask Cayce's question again, do you see?
[15:32] <Host-Blu> the 6th sense is the ability of a person to know if it's doing what the higher self wants it to do
[15:32] <Host-Blu> do you agree with what I just said?
[15:32] <merlin-> to experience what the mind refers to in all its aspects/ physical, mental , emotional, spiritual.
[15:33] <ron> yes
[15:33] <Host-Blu> ok
[15:33] <miketrueeagle> YES BY KNOWING SELF
[15:33] <Host-Blu> This might confuse some, for - as has been given - the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul; that is, the sense that this is used, as being that subconscious or subliminal self that is on guard ever with the Throne itself; for has it not been said, "He has given his angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time thou dashest thy foot against a stone?"
[15:34] <ron> hmm...
[15:34] <ron> and the abnormal, or unconscious conscious
[15:34] <Host-Blu> yes
[15:34] <Host-Blu> your guardian angel!
[15:34] <merlin-> i have stubbed my toes many times
[15:35] <ron> subconscious/abnormal/unconscious mind
[15:35] <Host-Blu> LOL, so have we all Merlin
[15:35] <Host-Blu> but only because we are ignoring our deeper being
[15:35] <ron> i knew i was abnormal all this time :)
[15:35] <Host-Blu> LOL Good one ron
[15:36] <Host-Blu> Have you heeded? Then He is near. Have you disregarded?
[15:36] <ron> subconscious/abnormal/unconscious mind = soul
[15:36] <Host-Blu> He has withdrawn to thine own self, see? That self that has been builded, that that is as the companion, that must be presented - that IS presented - IS before the Throne itself!
[15:37] <ron> the subconscious angel before the throne...i find that interesting
[15:37] <Host-Blu> CONSCIOUSNESS - [physical] consciousness - see - man seeks this for his OWN diversion. In the sleep [the soul] seeks the REAL diversion, or the REAL activity of self.
[15:37] <ron> i must be confused
[15:37] <Host-Blu> no ron
[15:37] <Host-Blu> you have it right
[15:38] <ron> abnormal is not taken negatively
[15:38] <Host-Blu> the subconscious and the abnormal, or the unconscious conscious, is the mind of the soul;
[15:38] <ron> but, means what is above normal
[15:38] <Host-Blu> abnormal in the sense that we do not see it often!
[15:39] <ron> ok
[15:39] <Host-Blu> for how much good do we see in the world!
[15:39] <Host-Blu> if we used more of our abnormal being, the world would be a much better place
[15:39] <Host-Blu> but think of the news, that is what we see as normal
[15:39] <Host-Blu> yuck
[15:40] <ron> above/beyond normal
[15:40] <Host-Blu> yes
[15:40] <Host-Blu> Jesus was not normal to this world
[15:40] <ron> normal...sorry seeking words for my own understanding and for memorization
[15:40] <Host-Blu> he was the supreme example of that which we do not understand, which is what normal should be!
[15:40] <ron> right blu
[15:41] <ron> yes
[15:41] <ron> very good
[15:41] <Host-Blu> (Q) What governs the experiences of the astral body while in the fourth dimensional plane during sleep?
(A) This is, as has been given, that upon which it has fed.
[15:41] <miketrueeagle> Jesus.. is r wake up call.... he leads the WAY ^I^
[15:42] <Host-Blu> That which it has builded; that which it seeks; that which the mental mind, the subconscious mind, the subliminal mind, SEEKS! That governs. Then we come to an understanding of that, "He that would find must seek." In the physical or material this we understand. That is a pattern of the subliminal or the spiritual self.
[15:42] <Host-Blu> seek and ye shall find
[15:43] <Host-Blu> (Q) What state or trend of development is indicated if an individual does not remember dreams?
(A) The negligence of its associations, both physical, mental and spiritual. Indicates a very negligible personage!
[15:43] <merlin-> the Christ pattern..........Jesus the man /Christ the pattern
[15:44] <Host-Blu> (Q) Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously?
A) Continues an association or withdraws from that which IS its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered! Does one always desire to associate itself with others? Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on!
See? It's a NATURAL experience! It's NOT an unnatural!
Don't seek for unnatural or supernatural! It is the natural - it is nature - it is God's activity! His associations with man. His DESIRE to make for man a way for an understanding! Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept?
[15:46] <Host-Blu> hmmm , this is interesting. I just quoted this scripture to Diane the other day !
[15:47] <Host-Blu> What associations may there have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice. Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thine self aware - whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life IN the conscious and unconscious, these be one!
[15:49] <Host-Blu> anyone have any thoughts on this?
[15:49] <Host-Blu> TY Mike
[15:49] <miketrueeagle> nope
[15:49] <Host-Blu> Merlin?
[15:49] <Host-Blu> what does this say to you?
[15:49] <miketrueeagle> i have the knowing
[15:50] <merlin-> alpha and omega are as the one , continuous and never ending
[15:50] <Host-Blu> I have personally been struggling with this scripture since Diane and I talked about it
[15:50] <Host-Blu> right Merlin!
[15:51] <Host-Blu> Now I see what it has been trying to tell me
[15:51] <Host-Blu> I believe I will end this chat here
[15:51] <Host-Blu> it makes a good stopping point
[15:51] <Host-Blu> Open chat!
[15:51] <miketrueeagle> ty blu
[15:51] <Host-Blu> ty Mike
[15:52] <merlin-> great material Blu
[15:52] <Host-Blu> It certainly is drawing me in Merlin!
[15:52] <Host-Blu> However it is not what I had planned to post today!
[15:52] <Host-Blu> LOL
[15:52] <merlin-> we continued from last time Blu
[15:53] <Host-Blu> guess it was meant to be, my unconscious unconscious self lot the other one on purpose!
[15:53] <miketrueeagle> an Cayce as is Jesus.. a reminder..