Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 9, 2005 22:36:27 GMT -5
Tuesday Night Health Chat: 11-08-05
"Search For God: Lesson Five: Virtue & Understanding - Review"
(09:39:51) (Blu) Hey Bill you should do your chat again in here
(09:40:25) (Eileen) yeah, Bill, maybe I will get what yall were saying this time!
(09:40:45) (Blu) I meant to reread it today and haven't gotten to it yet
(09:40:47) (patricia) Bill, i so enjoyed your chat last night that i went to Red Path and read it all again. it was just as good this a. m. as it was last night
(09:40:48) (Eileen) one day at a time, eh, Bill
(09:40:51) (Roz) yes Bill give us anothe go at it
(09:41:06) (lilith) please Bill
(09:41:08) (Bill) Eileen its much easier to get when you read it a few times and digest :o)
(09:41:10) (Blu) Don't you copy and paste it Bill?
(09:41:17) (Eileen) copied it but still haven;t reread it yet
(09:41:42) (Eileen) couldn't get back far enough to read it then Bill, so just stopped trying
(09:41:43) (Bill) yes blu till Eileen asks questions :o) but then you can answer then for me :o)
(09:41:55) (Blu) LOLOLOL
(09:42:14) (Eileen) the Lady begs your pardon, Sir!!!
(09:43:51) (Bill) okay if all are interested we can review some of yesterdays lesson
(09:44:16) (Eileen) good deal
(09:44:17) (Roz) please do Bill
(09:44:18) (Blu) Thanks Bill
(09:44:23) (Bill) If we would have virtue, then let us step out on faith ~~ faith in the purity of self, faith in the perfection of our brothers, and faith in the promises of God. Virtue is the reward of faith, and understanding is the reward of virtue. Through faith the veil is lifted and we can go within ourselves, within the holy of holies and be transformed into the image and likeness of the Son of God.
(09:44:28) (patricia) yes, Bill,
(09:45:32) (merri) what was the definition of virtue?
(09:45:52) (Bill) We must have implicit faith in God and in His promises, if we would have the cleansing power of His Spirit manifesting in our lives. We must have full faith in our brother, if we hope to be as pure as we demand him to be. We must have more faith in ourselves and in the power of the Spirit ever ready to manifest in and through us, if we expect to do our greatest work.
(09:45:57) (Blu) purity?
(09:46:04) (Raleigh) pur
(09:46:19) (Bill) “Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” (Phil 4.8)
(09:46:34) (Eileen) cleansing, ah
(09:46:55) (Bill) that answer for you merri?\
(09:47:39) (Bill) : In defining virtue and understanding, we must remember that these words are used here in their fuller meaning as expressions or activities of the soul or spirit forces, not as mental or emotional concepts. To establish a common ground, let us say that to be true to that which is pure in our purposes is virtue. Virtue is full cooperation that prepares the way for enlightening and uplifting humanity.
(09:47:44) (merri) guess so Bill
(09:48:01) (Bill) . Virtue is keeping ourselves in tune with Creative Force, enabling us to know ourselves as we are known by others. Virtue is holding steadfastly to the Ideal that is set in Him, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings. Virtue is pureness of heart, pureness of soul, and pureness of mind that come through His Spirit bearing witness with our spirit. Virtue is the seasoning of faith, the essence of hope, and the crowning element of truth ~~ an attribute of God.
(09:48:04) (merri) ok that one's better
(09:49:12) (Eileen) still sounds wonderful
(09:49:19) (Bill) True understanding is beyond the reason of the senses. It is the power to experience and interpret the laws that govern the expression of Creative Force, or God, in and through the physical, mental, and spiritual bodies of mankind. Where there is virtue there will be understanding, for one follows the other.
(09:50:46) (Bill) let me know when you get tired of the posts and just ask questions as we go if you have any
(09:50:51) (Eileen) must be getting some virtue, cause am getting some understanding Bill
(09:50:56) (Raleigh) k ty bill
(09:50:57) (Bill) Understanding is the reward of virtue. With virtue, therefore, comes understanding, for the two are as the tenon and the mortise, they fit one with the other. Knowledge is not always understanding. Daily many experience miracles of which they have no understanding. Few that have mere knowledge get understanding.
(09:51:16) (patricia) i am beginning to feel some understanding also Eileen.
(09:51:30) (Eileen) wonderful, ain't it?
(09:51:40) (Bill) good for you girls
(09:51:56) (Bill) An understanding of the mysteries of life comes to those only who make a close approach to the Throne. We may know the course of the stars, the intricate formulae of mathematics, and the secrets of sciences, but we cannot understand God’s laws until we have experienced that closeness with the divine that makes us realize that we are part of His laws, rather than mere observers of them.
(09:52:01) (Eileen) except when it comes to reading Bill's typing, that is
(09:52:03) (patricia) yup, i felt exilerated this morning after my morning meditation and prayers.
(09:52:34) (Raleigh) have you done those excercises that ec suggested pat?
(09:52:42) (Eileen) things making sense and clicking into place
(09:52:48) (Raleigh) i told you he said to do daily?
(09:52:58) (Roz) I'm enjoying the posts
(09:53:04) (Bill) . It was no miracle to those who understood Stephen when he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.” (Acts 7.56.) It was no miracle to the Master when He fed the five thousand with five loaves and two fishes, for He understood the law of supply.
(09:53:04) (Eileen) lovely
(09:53:11) (Raleigh) have you pat?
(09:53:16) (Bill) good Roz so I'm i
(09:53:19) (Bill) am
(09:53:26) (patricia) no, Ral, i have my own routine.
(09:53:31) (Raleigh) k
(09:53:51) (Bill) . It requires an understanding of God’s law (love), when such a message is heard even today as, “Lo, I am present with you in this room ~~ I have chosen you as ye have chosen me. Keep the way thou knowest, keep the path thou hast trod, for He is able to deliver thee in every trial, and unto him that is faithful comes the crown of life. As I am lifted up in thy consciousness, so will I be lifted up in the consciousness of others.” (P.R.)
(09:54:34) (Eileen) wonderful and reassuring
(09:54:35) (patricia) lifted up in consciousness. that is a comforting thought
(09:54:51) (anne) do the best you can everyday
(09:55:11) (Eileen) yes, anne, feel I should be doing more though
(09:55:16) (Bill) and recognize when you slip
(09:55:17) (Bill) With such an understanding comes a finer and more sincere relationship with others, and a higher spiritual concept of self. We link virtue and understanding because they are expressions of the activities of the soul forces. Virtue built into the mind is the only sure path to true understanding. Knowledge assists when it is in harmony and in accord with the Ideal; otherwise, it may become a barrier, a curse, and a dark pit from which it is hard to escape.
(09:56:00) (Eileen) yes the slips, Bill
(09:56:00) (anne) just your best that day
(09:56:14) (patricia) Bill, is this the same lesson as last night? it seems to be saying something more
(09:56:57) (Bill) pat i started at the begining of lesson 5 as to refesh our memorys
(09:57:04) (Roz) it does seem more clear tonite Bill
(09:57:14) (patricia) oh, okay Bill, i got ya now. thank you
(09:57:20) (Eileen) indeed
(09:57:45) (Bill) Virtue and Understanding Are Spiritual: Those of us who seek virtue and understanding must walk with God. We never sink so low that we do not at sometime feel a longing to look up, and to seek something higher than our own selfish desires. Often it takes only a song, a kind word, or a friendly deed to cause the fire of hope to leap and such a prayer to be uttered as “Lord, be merciful to me a sinner!”
(09:58:16) (Eileen) amen
(09:58:30) (patricia) :o)
(09:58:33) (Bill) We may be counted worthy to point out the way only after we have walked the way with Him, who was tempted in all ways like unto us, yet without sin.
(09:59:07) (Bill) If our hearts are open to the consciousness that comes from abiding in Him, there will be no misunderstandings, for the power of the Holy Spirit will awaken in each of us that which was ours in the beginning. The desire for virtue and understanding is already within. Spirit cries to spirit, “Purify me, cleanse me! Give me back my first estate, my virtue, my understanding, my God!” As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after Thee, O
(09:59:51) (Eileen) pretty
(10:00:18) (Bill) May our aspirations be expressed in the following words: O Thou divine and celestial spark, alive in some, dormant in others ~~ Virtue, Understanding, Creative Force, God ~~ have Thy own way in our hearts and lives, we pray! Amen
(10:00:54) (Roz) Amen
(10:00:58) (lilith) Amen
(10:00:59) (Raleigh) amen
(10:01:01) (merri) Amen
(10:01:03) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(10:01:06) (patricia) Amen
(10:01:08) (Eileen) like fine poetry, when did it get so beatiful?
(10:01:11) (karen) amen
(10:01:13) (Blu) Amen
(10:01:18) (Eileen) amen
(10:01:28) (Bill) Things to think: Each thought and act adds its vibration to my development. What sort of “house” I’m I building in my daily thoughts and actions?
(10:01:43) (Bill) “What we do not possess we cannot give. What we do not live we cannot teach others to live.”
(10:01:45) (Roz) words dont ever get old do they
(10:01:45) (Eileen) ah ha
(10:02:04) (Eileen) thik this is where I slipped up, missed this one Bill
(10:02:09) (Bill) they just keep growing in meaning Roz
(10:02:30) (patricia) Whoah, that is some heavy duty stuff. each thought and act changes our vibration?
(10:02:38) (Eileen) make more sense to me now
(10:02:45) (Bill) Virtue and Understanding Are Essential to Right Living, or righteous living. They are needed in meeting the daily problems of life that arise within us as well as in our relationships with others. We sincerely desire that our standards be correct, but none of us can choose aright unless we are guided by the Holy Spirit. It is hard to know the original cause or the final result of a decision influencing another.
(10:03:16) (karen) i find that each time i reread something , i find new understanding that i did not see previously.
(10:03:24) (Eileen) truly
(10:03:38) (Bill) yes Karen as it should be
(10:03:42) (Bill) . We may not know what trial or tribulation may have caused a brother to err. If we know, it is because we have ourselves experienced some similar tribulation. It is then that our standards are measured by Him who abides within our holy temple, and they fit perfectly with the Ideal within our less fortunate brother. We have no cause to find fault or condemn.
(10:03:51) (Eileen) so true karen
(10:04:28) (Roz) of course we are not the same person we were when we read it last time
(10:04:42) (friend_to_mankind) See only the pure ,the good!For until ye are able to see within the life and activities of those ye have come to hatethe most,something ye would worship in thy Creator,ye haven't begun to think straight.1776-1cayce
(10:04:49) (Bill) Virtue and understanding are the requisites for spiritual work. What we do not possess we cannot give. What we do not live we cannot teach others to live. Unless we are pure, how can we expect others to be pure? Our very words and acts condemn us. We must be and know before we can direct, or before we can rightly guide others who are seeking the safe harbor.
(10:05:16) (Bill) good one friend
(10:05:27) (anne) yes bill for we have all fell short of the mark
(10:05:52) (Bill) There is a desire in each of us to live better day by day. We wish to reach a certain goal. If we are choosing the highest, the best, we will not be satisfied with anything less. It is well for us to remember that the highest goal is not reached at a single bound, but step by step ~~ here a little, there a little.
(10:06:26) (Eileen) trying to do it in one hop, Bill
(10:06:42) (anne) slowly i step
(10:06:50) (Bill) then read this post again Eileen and sink it in :o)
(10:06:55) (Eileen) best anne
(10:07:05) (Bill) It is encouraging to know that no good deed is lost, not even a good intention; but all are built within our very souls and will bear fruits, some thirty, some fifty and some a hundredfold. It is by deeds, righteous deeds, that we rise. “We climb to heaven leaning on the arm of a brother whom we have helped.” (281-4.)
(10:07:07) (Eileen) have to keep reminding myself,
(10:07:55) (Bill) The way to virtue and understanding is through prayer and meditation. The approach to all understanding must come from a proper concept of our needs in the physical, the mental, and the spiritual phases of our lives. This is the approach of the Master Jesus.
(10:07:56) (Raleigh) so if another asks for help help them
(10:08:04) (friend_to_mankind) When we see rather Him that we worship even in the faults of others ,then we are at the beginning of patience.
(10:08:11) (Raleigh) best you know
(10:08:27) (Eileen) we try Ral
(10:08:35) (Raleigh) yes el ty
(10:08:40) (Bill) Others may point the way, but have they the virtue and understanding of Him who said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life?” (John 14.6.) He proclaimed no way except the one He, Himself, had trod. He so lived the way that He could say, “Follow me.” (Luke 11.9) The way is open to all.
(10:08:49) (Raleigh) its trhe try that counts huh
(10:09:48) (Bill) its the first step
(10:09:57) (Bill) We are moving along the path when we begin to see ourselves as others see us, when no unkind thought of our brother is allowed to lodge in our hearts, and when we seek earnestly to be pure in heart, pure in mind, pure in body and pure in soul.
(10:10:00) (One) Here a little, there a little can add up to allot.
(10:10:03) (Eileen) When we see rather Him that we worship even in the faults of others ,then we are at the beginning of patience, the very very beginning!
(10:11:41) (friend_to_mankind) That one cannot endure within self it finds as a fault in others .That thou findest as a fault in others is thine own greatest fault ,ever.
(10:12:18) (Bill) The way is straight and narrow, so narrow that we must have no will but the Father’s, that we must have no purpose but to do His work, and that we must have no aim but to reach the Christ Consciousness. This leads to virtue and understanding. “Seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.! (Luke 11.9.)
(10:12:23) (Eileen) friend, have found that to be so
(10:12:37) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:12:46) (Bill) friend is practicing that one :o)
(10:12:48) (Roz) by popular request Bill is doing this
(10:13:02) (Raleigh) i saw a reading bill that said chist jeus as the ideal
(10:13:08) (ky-mike) on thepath of the master ... bill
(10:13:21) (Raleigh) is there a difference bill?
(10:13:35) (Bill) yes He is Ral , we are trying Mike
(10:13:49) (Raleigh) k
(10:13:56) (friend_to_mankind) Do ever in self that thou knowest to be right ,though it may make of thee an outcast to thine neighbor 373-2
(10:14:08) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:14:14) (One) There is but One Ideal....that as manifested in the man Jesus Christ.
(10:14:14) (anne) amen
(10:14:22) (Eileen) ohhh, hard sometimes ftm
(10:14:27) (patricia) Wis, be sure to post this chat so that i can review it tomorrow. sometimes i need more than one read. :o)
(10:14:35) (Bill) some personal experiences of some devoted souls next:
(10:14:41) (Raleigh) yes but the reading said the best say highest idea is christ jesus bill
(10:14:45) (Raleigh) it did
(10:14:52) (Bill) “I have found the way. It is through divine love, and it is for all who desire it. I prayed seven years for divine love. It is a living thing within me, giving me strength to love those who have wronged me, giving me the sight so see good in those who would do evil. It is in me the healing power. I give thanks that I now recognize the God within me who is helping me to express divine qualities.”
(10:14:55) (Raleigh) i deal
(10:14:59) (ky-mike) ty
(10:15:04) (One) To love all. To love God above all else. Being willing to be a Vehicle for the Expression of His Will.
(10:15:04) (Blu) LOL, he will Patricia
(09:40:25) (Eileen) yeah, Bill, maybe I will get what yall were saying this time!
(09:40:45) (Blu) I meant to reread it today and haven't gotten to it yet
(09:40:47) (patricia) Bill, i so enjoyed your chat last night that i went to Red Path and read it all again. it was just as good this a. m. as it was last night
(09:40:48) (Eileen) one day at a time, eh, Bill
(09:40:51) (Roz) yes Bill give us anothe go at it
(09:41:06) (lilith) please Bill
(09:41:08) (Bill) Eileen its much easier to get when you read it a few times and digest :o)
(09:41:10) (Blu) Don't you copy and paste it Bill?
(09:41:17) (Eileen) copied it but still haven;t reread it yet
(09:41:42) (Eileen) couldn't get back far enough to read it then Bill, so just stopped trying
(09:41:43) (Bill) yes blu till Eileen asks questions :o) but then you can answer then for me :o)
(09:41:55) (Blu) LOLOLOL
(09:42:14) (Eileen) the Lady begs your pardon, Sir!!!
(09:43:51) (Bill) okay if all are interested we can review some of yesterdays lesson
(09:44:16) (Eileen) good deal
(09:44:17) (Roz) please do Bill
(09:44:18) (Blu) Thanks Bill
(09:44:23) (Bill) If we would have virtue, then let us step out on faith ~~ faith in the purity of self, faith in the perfection of our brothers, and faith in the promises of God. Virtue is the reward of faith, and understanding is the reward of virtue. Through faith the veil is lifted and we can go within ourselves, within the holy of holies and be transformed into the image and likeness of the Son of God.
(09:44:28) (patricia) yes, Bill,
(09:45:32) (merri) what was the definition of virtue?
(09:45:52) (Bill) We must have implicit faith in God and in His promises, if we would have the cleansing power of His Spirit manifesting in our lives. We must have full faith in our brother, if we hope to be as pure as we demand him to be. We must have more faith in ourselves and in the power of the Spirit ever ready to manifest in and through us, if we expect to do our greatest work.
(09:45:57) (Blu) purity?
(09:46:04) (Raleigh) pur
(09:46:19) (Bill) “Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” (Phil 4.8)
(09:46:34) (Eileen) cleansing, ah
(09:46:55) (Bill) that answer for you merri?\
(09:47:39) (Bill) : In defining virtue and understanding, we must remember that these words are used here in their fuller meaning as expressions or activities of the soul or spirit forces, not as mental or emotional concepts. To establish a common ground, let us say that to be true to that which is pure in our purposes is virtue. Virtue is full cooperation that prepares the way for enlightening and uplifting humanity.
(09:47:44) (merri) guess so Bill
(09:48:01) (Bill) . Virtue is keeping ourselves in tune with Creative Force, enabling us to know ourselves as we are known by others. Virtue is holding steadfastly to the Ideal that is set in Him, the Lord of Lords and King of Kings. Virtue is pureness of heart, pureness of soul, and pureness of mind that come through His Spirit bearing witness with our spirit. Virtue is the seasoning of faith, the essence of hope, and the crowning element of truth ~~ an attribute of God.
(09:48:04) (merri) ok that one's better
(09:49:12) (Eileen) still sounds wonderful
(09:49:19) (Bill) True understanding is beyond the reason of the senses. It is the power to experience and interpret the laws that govern the expression of Creative Force, or God, in and through the physical, mental, and spiritual bodies of mankind. Where there is virtue there will be understanding, for one follows the other.
(09:50:46) (Bill) let me know when you get tired of the posts and just ask questions as we go if you have any
(09:50:51) (Eileen) must be getting some virtue, cause am getting some understanding Bill
(09:50:56) (Raleigh) k ty bill
(09:50:57) (Bill) Understanding is the reward of virtue. With virtue, therefore, comes understanding, for the two are as the tenon and the mortise, they fit one with the other. Knowledge is not always understanding. Daily many experience miracles of which they have no understanding. Few that have mere knowledge get understanding.
(09:51:16) (patricia) i am beginning to feel some understanding also Eileen.
(09:51:30) (Eileen) wonderful, ain't it?
(09:51:40) (Bill) good for you girls
(09:51:56) (Bill) An understanding of the mysteries of life comes to those only who make a close approach to the Throne. We may know the course of the stars, the intricate formulae of mathematics, and the secrets of sciences, but we cannot understand God’s laws until we have experienced that closeness with the divine that makes us realize that we are part of His laws, rather than mere observers of them.
(09:52:01) (Eileen) except when it comes to reading Bill's typing, that is
(09:52:03) (patricia) yup, i felt exilerated this morning after my morning meditation and prayers.
(09:52:34) (Raleigh) have you done those excercises that ec suggested pat?
(09:52:42) (Eileen) things making sense and clicking into place
(09:52:48) (Raleigh) i told you he said to do daily?
(09:52:58) (Roz) I'm enjoying the posts
(09:53:04) (Bill) . It was no miracle to those who understood Stephen when he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.” (Acts 7.56.) It was no miracle to the Master when He fed the five thousand with five loaves and two fishes, for He understood the law of supply.
(09:53:04) (Eileen) lovely
(09:53:11) (Raleigh) have you pat?
(09:53:16) (Bill) good Roz so I'm i
(09:53:19) (Bill) am
(09:53:26) (patricia) no, Ral, i have my own routine.
(09:53:31) (Raleigh) k
(09:53:51) (Bill) . It requires an understanding of God’s law (love), when such a message is heard even today as, “Lo, I am present with you in this room ~~ I have chosen you as ye have chosen me. Keep the way thou knowest, keep the path thou hast trod, for He is able to deliver thee in every trial, and unto him that is faithful comes the crown of life. As I am lifted up in thy consciousness, so will I be lifted up in the consciousness of others.” (P.R.)
(09:54:34) (Eileen) wonderful and reassuring
(09:54:35) (patricia) lifted up in consciousness. that is a comforting thought
(09:54:51) (anne) do the best you can everyday
(09:55:11) (Eileen) yes, anne, feel I should be doing more though
(09:55:16) (Bill) and recognize when you slip
(09:55:17) (Bill) With such an understanding comes a finer and more sincere relationship with others, and a higher spiritual concept of self. We link virtue and understanding because they are expressions of the activities of the soul forces. Virtue built into the mind is the only sure path to true understanding. Knowledge assists when it is in harmony and in accord with the Ideal; otherwise, it may become a barrier, a curse, and a dark pit from which it is hard to escape.
(09:56:00) (Eileen) yes the slips, Bill
(09:56:00) (anne) just your best that day
(09:56:14) (patricia) Bill, is this the same lesson as last night? it seems to be saying something more
(09:56:57) (Bill) pat i started at the begining of lesson 5 as to refesh our memorys
(09:57:04) (Roz) it does seem more clear tonite Bill
(09:57:14) (patricia) oh, okay Bill, i got ya now. thank you
(09:57:20) (Eileen) indeed
(09:57:45) (Bill) Virtue and Understanding Are Spiritual: Those of us who seek virtue and understanding must walk with God. We never sink so low that we do not at sometime feel a longing to look up, and to seek something higher than our own selfish desires. Often it takes only a song, a kind word, or a friendly deed to cause the fire of hope to leap and such a prayer to be uttered as “Lord, be merciful to me a sinner!”
(09:58:16) (Eileen) amen
(09:58:30) (patricia) :o)
(09:58:33) (Bill) We may be counted worthy to point out the way only after we have walked the way with Him, who was tempted in all ways like unto us, yet without sin.
(09:59:07) (Bill) If our hearts are open to the consciousness that comes from abiding in Him, there will be no misunderstandings, for the power of the Holy Spirit will awaken in each of us that which was ours in the beginning. The desire for virtue and understanding is already within. Spirit cries to spirit, “Purify me, cleanse me! Give me back my first estate, my virtue, my understanding, my God!” As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after Thee, O
(09:59:51) (Eileen) pretty
(10:00:18) (Bill) May our aspirations be expressed in the following words: O Thou divine and celestial spark, alive in some, dormant in others ~~ Virtue, Understanding, Creative Force, God ~~ have Thy own way in our hearts and lives, we pray! Amen
(10:00:54) (Roz) Amen
(10:00:58) (lilith) Amen
(10:00:59) (Raleigh) amen
(10:01:01) (merri) Amen
(10:01:03) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(10:01:06) (patricia) Amen
(10:01:08) (Eileen) like fine poetry, when did it get so beatiful?
(10:01:11) (karen) amen
(10:01:13) (Blu) Amen
(10:01:18) (Eileen) amen
(10:01:28) (Bill) Things to think: Each thought and act adds its vibration to my development. What sort of “house” I’m I building in my daily thoughts and actions?
(10:01:43) (Bill) “What we do not possess we cannot give. What we do not live we cannot teach others to live.”
(10:01:45) (Roz) words dont ever get old do they
(10:01:45) (Eileen) ah ha
(10:02:04) (Eileen) thik this is where I slipped up, missed this one Bill
(10:02:09) (Bill) they just keep growing in meaning Roz
(10:02:30) (patricia) Whoah, that is some heavy duty stuff. each thought and act changes our vibration?
(10:02:38) (Eileen) make more sense to me now
(10:02:45) (Bill) Virtue and Understanding Are Essential to Right Living, or righteous living. They are needed in meeting the daily problems of life that arise within us as well as in our relationships with others. We sincerely desire that our standards be correct, but none of us can choose aright unless we are guided by the Holy Spirit. It is hard to know the original cause or the final result of a decision influencing another.
(10:03:16) (karen) i find that each time i reread something , i find new understanding that i did not see previously.
(10:03:24) (Eileen) truly
(10:03:38) (Bill) yes Karen as it should be
(10:03:42) (Bill) . We may not know what trial or tribulation may have caused a brother to err. If we know, it is because we have ourselves experienced some similar tribulation. It is then that our standards are measured by Him who abides within our holy temple, and they fit perfectly with the Ideal within our less fortunate brother. We have no cause to find fault or condemn.
(10:03:51) (Eileen) so true karen
(10:04:28) (Roz) of course we are not the same person we were when we read it last time
(10:04:42) (friend_to_mankind) See only the pure ,the good!For until ye are able to see within the life and activities of those ye have come to hatethe most,something ye would worship in thy Creator,ye haven't begun to think straight.1776-1cayce
(10:04:49) (Bill) Virtue and understanding are the requisites for spiritual work. What we do not possess we cannot give. What we do not live we cannot teach others to live. Unless we are pure, how can we expect others to be pure? Our very words and acts condemn us. We must be and know before we can direct, or before we can rightly guide others who are seeking the safe harbor.
(10:05:16) (Bill) good one friend
(10:05:27) (anne) yes bill for we have all fell short of the mark
(10:05:52) (Bill) There is a desire in each of us to live better day by day. We wish to reach a certain goal. If we are choosing the highest, the best, we will not be satisfied with anything less. It is well for us to remember that the highest goal is not reached at a single bound, but step by step ~~ here a little, there a little.
(10:06:26) (Eileen) trying to do it in one hop, Bill
(10:06:42) (anne) slowly i step
(10:06:50) (Bill) then read this post again Eileen and sink it in :o)
(10:06:55) (Eileen) best anne
(10:07:05) (Bill) It is encouraging to know that no good deed is lost, not even a good intention; but all are built within our very souls and will bear fruits, some thirty, some fifty and some a hundredfold. It is by deeds, righteous deeds, that we rise. “We climb to heaven leaning on the arm of a brother whom we have helped.” (281-4.)
(10:07:07) (Eileen) have to keep reminding myself,
(10:07:55) (Bill) The way to virtue and understanding is through prayer and meditation. The approach to all understanding must come from a proper concept of our needs in the physical, the mental, and the spiritual phases of our lives. This is the approach of the Master Jesus.
(10:07:56) (Raleigh) so if another asks for help help them
(10:08:04) (friend_to_mankind) When we see rather Him that we worship even in the faults of others ,then we are at the beginning of patience.
(10:08:11) (Raleigh) best you know
(10:08:27) (Eileen) we try Ral
(10:08:35) (Raleigh) yes el ty
(10:08:40) (Bill) Others may point the way, but have they the virtue and understanding of Him who said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life?” (John 14.6.) He proclaimed no way except the one He, Himself, had trod. He so lived the way that He could say, “Follow me.” (Luke 11.9) The way is open to all.
(10:08:49) (Raleigh) its trhe try that counts huh
(10:09:48) (Bill) its the first step
(10:09:57) (Bill) We are moving along the path when we begin to see ourselves as others see us, when no unkind thought of our brother is allowed to lodge in our hearts, and when we seek earnestly to be pure in heart, pure in mind, pure in body and pure in soul.
(10:10:00) (One) Here a little, there a little can add up to allot.
(10:10:03) (Eileen) When we see rather Him that we worship even in the faults of others ,then we are at the beginning of patience, the very very beginning!
(10:11:41) (friend_to_mankind) That one cannot endure within self it finds as a fault in others .That thou findest as a fault in others is thine own greatest fault ,ever.
(10:12:18) (Bill) The way is straight and narrow, so narrow that we must have no will but the Father’s, that we must have no purpose but to do His work, and that we must have no aim but to reach the Christ Consciousness. This leads to virtue and understanding. “Seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.! (Luke 11.9.)
(10:12:23) (Eileen) friend, have found that to be so
(10:12:37) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:12:46) (Bill) friend is practicing that one :o)
(10:12:48) (Roz) by popular request Bill is doing this
(10:13:02) (Raleigh) i saw a reading bill that said chist jeus as the ideal
(10:13:08) (ky-mike) on thepath of the master ... bill
(10:13:21) (Raleigh) is there a difference bill?
(10:13:35) (Bill) yes He is Ral , we are trying Mike
(10:13:49) (Raleigh) k
(10:13:56) (friend_to_mankind) Do ever in self that thou knowest to be right ,though it may make of thee an outcast to thine neighbor 373-2
(10:14:08) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:14:14) (One) There is but One Ideal....that as manifested in the man Jesus Christ.
(10:14:14) (anne) amen
(10:14:22) (Eileen) ohhh, hard sometimes ftm
(10:14:27) (patricia) Wis, be sure to post this chat so that i can review it tomorrow. sometimes i need more than one read. :o)
(10:14:35) (Bill) some personal experiences of some devoted souls next:
(10:14:41) (Raleigh) yes but the reading said the best say highest idea is christ jesus bill
(10:14:45) (Raleigh) it did
(10:14:52) (Bill) “I have found the way. It is through divine love, and it is for all who desire it. I prayed seven years for divine love. It is a living thing within me, giving me strength to love those who have wronged me, giving me the sight so see good in those who would do evil. It is in me the healing power. I give thanks that I now recognize the God within me who is helping me to express divine qualities.”
(10:14:55) (Raleigh) i deal
(10:14:59) (ky-mike) ty
(10:15:04) (One) To love all. To love God above all else. Being willing to be a Vehicle for the Expression of His Will.
(10:15:04) (Blu) LOL, he will Patricia
