Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 14, 2006 15:27:21 GMT -5
Tuesday Afternoon Chat: 02-14-06
"Love"
(02:22:46) (merri) yes and thought today would be about Love
(02:23:10) (merri) since we have been talking about the different aspects of Love
(02:23:51) (diane) please make it a shot in the arm, merri, am still whirling from last night's fiasco
(02:24:12) (Meg) yes merri Love, i could fill this whole roome with that understanding
(02:24:50) (merri) lol diane...everyone has their own perspective about the subject
(02:25:12) (Meg) and all its challenges and Glories
(02:25:40) (Lynn) creativity and genuis are simply styles of thinking we can all enjoy
(02:25:44) (Leon) I have perspectives, that's why I'm special
(02:25:52) (Lynn) yes!
(02:25:56) (merri) ok I'll post an article by John VanAuken from Personal Spirituality
(02:26:03) (Meg) sorry, not sure about it doing it all now
(02:26:18) (Meg) k merri, please do
(02:26:25) (ron) there always are so many inaccurate comments aout the readings that it becomes boring and frustrating to sit there and just observe
(02:26:39) (Lynn) then join in, ron!
(02:26:39) (diane) agree ron
(02:26:53) (Lynn) You have much to contribute, ron.
(02:26:56) (ron) i'm talking about last nite
(02:27:08) (Qrious) what happened last nite?
(02:27:15) (diane) hardly anyone was on the same page
(02:27:38) (ron) lol
(02:27:38) (diane) perspective is one thing but that was total confusion
(02:27:40) (Qrious) guess we all had something to say.
(02:27:47) (Leon) It was a full moon you know
(02:27:53) (ron) lol diane
(02:27:54) (merri) From a scientific point of view, love is a combination of evolutionary forces and biochemistry. Evolution’s unswerving drive for survival of the species has grabbed onto human bonding because the weaving of pairs of individuals into interdependent units increases the reproductive success of the parents and the survival rate of their infants. The evolved body is also loaded with powerful chemicals to help ensure the success of the bonding. The “love chemical”
(02:27:55) (Lynn) from chaos wisdom is born.
(02:28:16) (diane) lots of it born last night then Lynn. LOL
(02:28:28) (Lynn) lots of people thinking for themselves.
(02:28:44) (Lynn) regulation stifles
(02:28:59) (diane) some good thinking did come through the mire, agree
(02:29:06) (Qrious) you say that like its a bad thing.. free thinking is good .
(02:29:10) (Lynn) and many dared think question
(02:29:34) (ron) thinking?...i've been wondering about that
(02:29:39) (Lynn) When people see light, they get excited.
(02:29:45) (diane) not all free thinking is good thinking...Q
(02:29:47) (merri) When this is released in the brain of any human, he or she will feel uncontrollably amorous, romantic, and “turned on” by the person who is the object of these feelings. Follow this up with a little oxytocin (often called “the cuddle chemical”), and you have the lovemaking sensations of relaxed satisfaction and attachment. For the relationship to endure, however, endorphins must be released in the brain. If they are, then the love relationship endures.
(02:29:53) (Leon) the love chemical w o w
(02:30:44) (merri) Psychologically, love is dependent upon childhood caregiving. Much research has documented three bonding orientations in children that carry over into adulthood. Using their terms, the three orientations are: secure bonding, ambivalent, and avoidant. If childhood care is consistent, comforting, and offers a safe base from which to explore the world, then the child grows into an adult that has a secure orientation toward bonding,
(02:31:11) (Qrious) brainstorming is what I think its more like diane.
(02:31:20) (diane) that explains a lot merri, that cuddle chemical
(02:31:32) (merri) which results in trust, lasting relationships, shared intimacy, and the ability to work out conflicts through compromise. If the childhood care is inconsistent, creating doubts about the caregiver’s availability and the safety of the base from which to explore, then the child grows up to view him- or herself poorly and be-comes preoccupied with keeping his or her romantic partners close at hand and firmly committed. If the childhood
(02:32:20) (Leon) firmly committed
(02:32:26) (merri) care needs are repeatedly rejected or the caregiver is frequently upset or violent, then the child develops avoid-ant patterns and grows up to either look down upon or dread any hints of emotional intimacy.
(02:32:43) (merri) If the childhood
(02:32:53) (Qrious) lots of Ifs.
(02:33:26) (Leon) Ands or buts
(02:33:34) (merri) From a philosophical perspective, love can be categorized into three major types, using the Greek words eros, philia, and agape. Eros refers to love that is passionate, intense, and sexual, even erotic. However, Plato held that eros really seeks transcendental beauty, but human beauty reminds one of that transcendent beauty. Philia love is fondness and appreciation of the other, beyond self. It is friendship, family loyalty, community ties, love for one’s wor
(02:34:46) (merri) Agape love does not seek anything in return for its expression. However, agape love has an ethical standard and may therefore impartially determine another’s warranting love -- something we acknowledge today as tough love, meaning a love that calls the other to higher levels of behavior. In the New Testament, written in Greek, many of the “love” statements use the word agape.
(02:35:43) (merri) Throughout the Bible, love is most important and powerful. When we think of power, even spiritual power, we rarely think of love. Yet, from Genesis to the Revelation, the Bible indicates that love evokes the highest, most godly of powers and actually is the nature of God. Love brings us closest to
(02:36:26) (merri) our true, divine nature -- our angelic nature. Many biblical passages teach that of all the things a person can learn and do in this world, nothing reflects Godliness more than love. (Love’s power is developed further on page 4, Giving of Ourselves.)
(02:37:02) (merri) The two greatest commandments are found in the Old and New Testaments. The first is found in Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew 22:37:
(02:37:24) (merri) “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.”
(02:37:45) (merri) The second commandment is found in Leviticus 19:18 and Matthew 22:39:
(02:38:06) (merri) “You shall love your neighbor [plesion, meaning a ‘close-by person’] as yourself.”
(02:38:33) (merri) The disciple Paul’s famous love statement is found in 1 Corinthians 13:13:
(02:38:55) (merri) Now abide faith, hope, and love [agape], these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
(02:39:11) (Leon) Yeh--lol
(02:39:24) (merri) Paul describes love beautifully: “Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.”
(02:40:02) (merri) Peter’s love advice is in 1 Peter 4:8: “Above all things, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.”
(02:40:25) (merri) John wrote in 1 John 4:7-12: “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love .... If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us.”
(02:40:26) (diane) love is blind...also deaf and dumb
(02:40:33) (merri) lol
(02:40:39) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Diane
(02:40:48) (ron) lol
(02:40:58) (merri) Edgar Cayce gave over two thousand readings teaching spiritual seekers to live, think, speak, and abide in love. Here are his comments to four different people:
(02:40:58) (merri) Edgar Cayce gave over two thousand readings teaching spiritual seekers to live, think, speak, and abide in love. Here are his comments to four different people:
(02:41:09) (Lynn) that is eros
(02:41:20) (merri) “Let the beauty of your joy, in manifesting the light and love as shown in the Christ-Spirit, that makes for the new song in your heart, keep you in your daily walks of life.”
(02:41:35) (diane) eros = physical love, right?
(02:41:40) (Meg) I believe that Love is giving of yourself, Giving, and seeing the Divive within each person you Greet, so be it!
(02:41:48) (merri) “Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, you will love the living God. Know His love is sufficient to keep you. No matter what may be the trial, His love abides, and He is not unmindful of your prayers.”
(02:41:57) (Lynn) yes, blind deaf and dumb. Agape discerns, loves and helps to grow.
(02:42:14) (merri) “The beauty of your life rises as a sweet incense before the altar of mercy. Yet it is not sacrifice but peace, grace, and mercy that we would manifest among the children of men. For God is love.”
(02:42:16) (Meg) and most of all Action on your Belief
(02:42:17) (Lynn) even gets tough
(02:42:44) (merri) “Keep your paths straight. Know in whom you have believed, as well as in what you believe. For the love as passes understanding can, does, and will make your pathway brighter. Keep in that way.”
(02:43:19) (merri) Jesus presented love on levels, identifying the highest love in this often quoted passage: “No greater love has a person, than to give up his or her life for another” -- not literal death, but giving up self’s desires for another’s. It is thinking more of what another may need than what self may want. Cayce said that Jesus had a secret prayer that he repeated to himself, “Others, Lord, others.” This kept the Father’s power that flowed through Jesus on the rig
(02:43:26) (Meg) God Is Love, t hat says it all !
(02:43:38) (merri) agree
(02:44:05) (merri) the Light and Love that flowed through him -- God’s love, our Father’s and Mother’s love. Selfless loving is the ideal -- giving, caring without expectation of getting something in return. Yet, this must not be self-destructive. No one could accuse Jesus of being a doormat of self-deprecating love. He often radiated a tough love. Those around Him often needed truth, justice, and a clear position on God’s ways, not pampering. Jesus cared so much for others tha
(02:44:09) (Qrious) not literal death?
(02:44:24) (Qrious) secret?... not anymore.
(02:44:54) (merri) their darkness or misunderstandings. Yet he never condemned them. Rather, He called their mistakes to their attention. He also showed a remarkable sense of their inability to handle the full truth, choosing to be patient: “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now,” John 16:12.
(02:45:32) (merri) A mature love requires that we “rightly divine and divide the truth.” Cayce often referred to this teaching, as in this example:
(02:45:57) (merri) “First, study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman not ashamed, rightly divining - or dividing - the words of truth; that is, giving proper evaluations to the material, the mental, and the spiritual relation-ships, the economic, the social, the orders of things in their proper form. Be not hasty in decisions but know that the answers may come from within,” 189-3.
(02:46:35) (Leon) must step out of the room for awhile, be back asap
(02:46:41) (Lynn) from within
(02:46:45) (merri) In our personal search for spiritual understanding, nothing will empower and illuminate us more than love. But its way is subtle, gentle, choosing to work in the background, quietly. Its workshop is our own hearts and minds; its testing grounds, everyday life and everyday relationships. Prayer and meditation can enhance our ability to understand and practice love in daily life. Supplicant prayer
(02:47:23) (merri) followed by a rising sense of entering into God’s presence, and abiding there in loving at-onement, will yield our better self. This loving presence will be in little things throughout the day -- little things that usually only God and our individual soul know.
(02:48:03) (merri) These loving experiences often leave us humbled but happy and content. Marriage, parenting, friend-ship, work, and self-esteem all improve when love is carried in one’s heart and mind.
(02:48:38) (merri) God truly is love. And abiding in God’s love is transcending, lifting us beyond our normal perspective. “Seek ye first His kingdom (Love), and all else will be added to you.”
(02:48:48) (merri) The End
(02:49:09) (Lynn) Beautiful, merri. thank you
(02:49:31) (merri) Happy Valentines Day Everyone
(02:49:47) (merri) And Abundant Love to you All
(02:49:47) (Lynn) Happy Valentines Day , merri and everyone.
(02:49:51) (Qrious) happy v-day to you as well merri
(02:49:57) (ron) happy valentines day
(02:50:17) (WalksInSpirit) That was great, Merri!
(02:50:28) (diane) Happy Day of Love...both agape and eros
(02:50:29) (WalksInSpirit) Happy Valentine's Day everybody!
(02:50:38) (karen) awesome ,merri
(02:50:49) (Lynn) alright, diane!
(02:50:57) (merri) kooooool diane
(02:51:49) (merri) so alot of what we talked about lastnight was agape love
(02:52:03) (Qrious) Philio.. I would think.
(02:52:13) (Meg) at-one-ment is His presense, knowint that the Christ Consciousness is with us, let me say he died for us, that we might to leave his comforter, His Presence, every day, His Love
(02:52:29) (patricia) hmmm, merri, is last nites chat still the subject of discussion?
(02:52:52) (merri) just posted an article on Love pat
(02:52:53) (Qrious) don't know pat.. but moren'likely
(02:52:55) (Meg) this is my Believe
(02:53:11) (Lynn) I agree Meg,
(02:53:21) (merri) from Personal Spirituality
(02:53:28) (kazu) why does woman love only her own children?
(02:53:30) (Meg) thank you Lynn
(02:53:45) (patricia) who said she does kazu?
(02:53:57) (diane) that's a sad thought, kaz
(02:54:03) (merri) a woman can love many children kazu
(02:54:14) (merri) whether they are hers or not
(02:54:24) (Qrious) because it is a part of her.. she bore and cared for the child with a love.. that is beyond understanding.
(02:55:51) (patricia) i have been pondering all day about what happened in last nights chat
(02:55:59) (Meg) Valantines Day, wow, a day of Love
(02:56:19) (merri) how do you preceive what happened patricia?
(02:57:59) (Qrious) Bill has awesome classed Roz.. we all went at each other.. then I left.. and it got even better.. I think.. lol
(02:58:18) (diane) A lot of talking...and not much listening, it seemed
(02:59:34) (merri) the talk centered mostly about uncondional love
(02:59:46) (merri) and there were many different views
(03:00:13) (Lynn) people were thinking for themselves.
(03:00:18) (Meg) Roz, we just finished in our study group the chapter on Love, and what i got from it this time, was that God is Love, so for me greeting each person with the Love within, no matter what, lol, is most important, :)
(03:00:20) (Lynn) And speaking there thoughts.
(03:00:24) (Lynn) lots of people
(03:00:40) (Qrious) yah.. thats true.. we all had different oppinions on that subject thats for sure.
(03:00:53) (merri) on a whole I think it was a good chat
(03:01:07) (Lynn) It reminded me of when treats are tossed to puppies. Many were scrambling to get some.
(03:01:17) (Lynn) thinking expressing for themselves
(03:01:28) (merri) which is good
(03:01:29) (Qrious) I still don't get that enemy stuff.. but thats o.k.. I might.. or I won't.. no biggy.
(03:01:30) (Meg) i am saying to each person, I greet the divine withion you, and i have great feeling of peace
(03:01:34) (karen) man -ego =god (is love 0
(03:01:40) (Lynn) thinking is a skill, it starts off awkwardly
(03:01:50) (patricia) some of us seem to be stuck and can't move forward.
(03:01:54) (Roz) Bill didn t lose his cool?
(03:02:04) (merri) never!!!
(03:02:06) (merri) lol
(03:02:14) (Qrious) Elvis's Love Me Tonight is playing.. it so romantic.
(03:02:48) (Qrious) naw Roz.. Bill and MaryAnne was taking me to school.. lol
(03:03:11) (patricia) yes, merri
(03:03:45) (Meg) Roz, guess you do not have to do the discipline thing?
(03:04:00) (merri) love the enemy but not his actions Q?
(03:04:05) (Meg) i should have known that
(03:04:17) (patricia) i believe that if EC was here right now, he would say, "well, duh, come on people, lets move into the 21st century"
(03:04:33) (diane) what bothers me is not the free thinking/ expressing part. I guess i failed to recognize a cohesive thread, and saw that behind all the agitation, seemed all were needing the love more than ever
(03:04:35) (Qrious) yah merri.. but mostly that Jesus had the Devil for his ego.. that thing mostly.
(03:04:49) (ron) but there is no need to be a "door mat"
(03:05:21) (Roz) but if disruption ruin s any chance for the exchange of ideas
(03:05:33) (diane) yep
(03:05:50) (Meg) yep , diane,
(03:05:51) (patricia) some will not accept exchange of ideas
(03:05:57) (Meg) sorry roz
(03:05:59) (Lynn) door mat , brings one of my own favorite expressions, You don´t do any body any favors by letting them put it on the karmic wheel at your expense (abuse).
(03:06:03) (diane) i felt tongue tied...overwhelmed
(03:06:18) (merri) unfortunately that is true pat
(03:06:20) (Roz) yah ty diane
(03:06:21) (ron) there were many good exchanges of ideas i thought, excluding several side interuptions
(03:06:39) (merri) agree ron
(03:06:39) (Leon) Stay away from people that "need" love
(03:06:40) (Meg) probably will not share my thoughts for awhile
(03:07:23) (Roz) it is difficult to conduct a study w/ with disruptions w/ no context
(03:07:32) (Lynn) it was in open chat
(03:07:50) (Roz) Meg please dont do that
(03:08:10) (ron) some of these things would eventully stop if we stood up for ourselves...just speak up
(03:08:11) (merri) we appreciate your thoughts Meg
(03:08:56) (merri) and I, for one, appreciated WIS's comments
(03:09:11) (Qrious) well.. everyone had so many interesting variation going on at the same time.. it was hard to keep track of who you wanted to answer.
(03:09:29) (Leon) The whople Universe is filled withlove an ocean of love.. Perhaps there afraid yes afraid of getting thiir feet wet so go ahead and throw a bucket of water on them Lynn
(03:09:50) (Lynn) thanks, and get paid for it.
(03:12:11) (merri) well it was an interesting chat with lots of imput
(03:12:19) (Leon) LOVE--- there's so much being expressed , it fills my senses
(03:12:37) (Lynn) then overflow it to others, Leon.
(03:12:54) (diane) know what? we all have our own favorite style of communication, and maybe a few styles got muzzled last night. lol
(03:13:27) (Leon) That's why I'm here
(03:13:29) (diane) Free-for - alls are not my forte, i guess
(03:13:37) (Lynn) and I am grateful, Leon.
(03:13:42) (Qrious) ground control to Leon... ground control to Leon.. lol.. take me where your at man..
(03:13:46) (Roz) doesnt make sense does it diane
(03:14:08) (patricia) me either diane.
(03:14:18) (Leon) You'll see me on the sunny side of the street
(03:14:30) (merri) did you see lastnight as a free forall diane
(03:14:59) (ron) i thought it was a race for and around the Moon
(03:15:03) (karen) i am with you both Roz and diane, free for alls would send me to the moon ground control
(03:15:12) (diane) lol merri...almost
(03:15:21) (Meg) And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three, but the greathest of these is Love
(02:23:10) (merri) since we have been talking about the different aspects of Love
(02:23:51) (diane) please make it a shot in the arm, merri, am still whirling from last night's fiasco
(02:24:12) (Meg) yes merri Love, i could fill this whole roome with that understanding
(02:24:50) (merri) lol diane...everyone has their own perspective about the subject
(02:25:12) (Meg) and all its challenges and Glories
(02:25:40) (Lynn) creativity and genuis are simply styles of thinking we can all enjoy
(02:25:44) (Leon) I have perspectives, that's why I'm special
(02:25:52) (Lynn) yes!
(02:25:56) (merri) ok I'll post an article by John VanAuken from Personal Spirituality
(02:26:03) (Meg) sorry, not sure about it doing it all now
(02:26:18) (Meg) k merri, please do
(02:26:25) (ron) there always are so many inaccurate comments aout the readings that it becomes boring and frustrating to sit there and just observe
(02:26:39) (Lynn) then join in, ron!
(02:26:39) (diane) agree ron
(02:26:53) (Lynn) You have much to contribute, ron.
(02:26:56) (ron) i'm talking about last nite
(02:27:08) (Qrious) what happened last nite?
(02:27:15) (diane) hardly anyone was on the same page
(02:27:38) (ron) lol
(02:27:38) (diane) perspective is one thing but that was total confusion
(02:27:40) (Qrious) guess we all had something to say.
(02:27:47) (Leon) It was a full moon you know
(02:27:53) (ron) lol diane
(02:27:54) (merri) From a scientific point of view, love is a combination of evolutionary forces and biochemistry. Evolution’s unswerving drive for survival of the species has grabbed onto human bonding because the weaving of pairs of individuals into interdependent units increases the reproductive success of the parents and the survival rate of their infants. The evolved body is also loaded with powerful chemicals to help ensure the success of the bonding. The “love chemical”
(02:27:55) (Lynn) from chaos wisdom is born.
(02:28:16) (diane) lots of it born last night then Lynn. LOL
(02:28:28) (Lynn) lots of people thinking for themselves.
(02:28:44) (Lynn) regulation stifles
(02:28:59) (diane) some good thinking did come through the mire, agree
(02:29:06) (Qrious) you say that like its a bad thing.. free thinking is good .
(02:29:10) (Lynn) and many dared think question
(02:29:34) (ron) thinking?...i've been wondering about that
(02:29:39) (Lynn) When people see light, they get excited.
(02:29:45) (diane) not all free thinking is good thinking...Q
(02:29:47) (merri) When this is released in the brain of any human, he or she will feel uncontrollably amorous, romantic, and “turned on” by the person who is the object of these feelings. Follow this up with a little oxytocin (often called “the cuddle chemical”), and you have the lovemaking sensations of relaxed satisfaction and attachment. For the relationship to endure, however, endorphins must be released in the brain. If they are, then the love relationship endures.
(02:29:53) (Leon) the love chemical w o w
(02:30:44) (merri) Psychologically, love is dependent upon childhood caregiving. Much research has documented three bonding orientations in children that carry over into adulthood. Using their terms, the three orientations are: secure bonding, ambivalent, and avoidant. If childhood care is consistent, comforting, and offers a safe base from which to explore the world, then the child grows into an adult that has a secure orientation toward bonding,
(02:31:11) (Qrious) brainstorming is what I think its more like diane.
(02:31:20) (diane) that explains a lot merri, that cuddle chemical
(02:31:32) (merri) which results in trust, lasting relationships, shared intimacy, and the ability to work out conflicts through compromise. If the childhood care is inconsistent, creating doubts about the caregiver’s availability and the safety of the base from which to explore, then the child grows up to view him- or herself poorly and be-comes preoccupied with keeping his or her romantic partners close at hand and firmly committed. If the childhood
(02:32:20) (Leon) firmly committed
(02:32:26) (merri) care needs are repeatedly rejected or the caregiver is frequently upset or violent, then the child develops avoid-ant patterns and grows up to either look down upon or dread any hints of emotional intimacy.
(02:32:43) (merri) If the childhood
(02:32:53) (Qrious) lots of Ifs.
(02:33:26) (Leon) Ands or buts
(02:33:34) (merri) From a philosophical perspective, love can be categorized into three major types, using the Greek words eros, philia, and agape. Eros refers to love that is passionate, intense, and sexual, even erotic. However, Plato held that eros really seeks transcendental beauty, but human beauty reminds one of that transcendent beauty. Philia love is fondness and appreciation of the other, beyond self. It is friendship, family loyalty, community ties, love for one’s wor
(02:34:46) (merri) Agape love does not seek anything in return for its expression. However, agape love has an ethical standard and may therefore impartially determine another’s warranting love -- something we acknowledge today as tough love, meaning a love that calls the other to higher levels of behavior. In the New Testament, written in Greek, many of the “love” statements use the word agape.
(02:35:43) (merri) Throughout the Bible, love is most important and powerful. When we think of power, even spiritual power, we rarely think of love. Yet, from Genesis to the Revelation, the Bible indicates that love evokes the highest, most godly of powers and actually is the nature of God. Love brings us closest to
(02:36:26) (merri) our true, divine nature -- our angelic nature. Many biblical passages teach that of all the things a person can learn and do in this world, nothing reflects Godliness more than love. (Love’s power is developed further on page 4, Giving of Ourselves.)
(02:37:02) (merri) The two greatest commandments are found in the Old and New Testaments. The first is found in Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew 22:37:
(02:37:24) (merri) “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.”
(02:37:45) (merri) The second commandment is found in Leviticus 19:18 and Matthew 22:39:
(02:38:06) (merri) “You shall love your neighbor [plesion, meaning a ‘close-by person’] as yourself.”
(02:38:33) (merri) The disciple Paul’s famous love statement is found in 1 Corinthians 13:13:
(02:38:55) (merri) Now abide faith, hope, and love [agape], these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
(02:39:11) (Leon) Yeh--lol
(02:39:24) (merri) Paul describes love beautifully: “Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.”
(02:40:02) (merri) Peter’s love advice is in 1 Peter 4:8: “Above all things, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.”
(02:40:25) (merri) John wrote in 1 John 4:7-12: “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love .... If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us.”
(02:40:26) (diane) love is blind...also deaf and dumb
(02:40:33) (merri) lol
(02:40:39) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Diane
(02:40:48) (ron) lol
(02:40:58) (merri) Edgar Cayce gave over two thousand readings teaching spiritual seekers to live, think, speak, and abide in love. Here are his comments to four different people:
(02:40:58) (merri) Edgar Cayce gave over two thousand readings teaching spiritual seekers to live, think, speak, and abide in love. Here are his comments to four different people:
(02:41:09) (Lynn) that is eros
(02:41:20) (merri) “Let the beauty of your joy, in manifesting the light and love as shown in the Christ-Spirit, that makes for the new song in your heart, keep you in your daily walks of life.”
(02:41:35) (diane) eros = physical love, right?
(02:41:40) (Meg) I believe that Love is giving of yourself, Giving, and seeing the Divive within each person you Greet, so be it!
(02:41:48) (merri) “Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, you will love the living God. Know His love is sufficient to keep you. No matter what may be the trial, His love abides, and He is not unmindful of your prayers.”
(02:41:57) (Lynn) yes, blind deaf and dumb. Agape discerns, loves and helps to grow.
(02:42:14) (merri) “The beauty of your life rises as a sweet incense before the altar of mercy. Yet it is not sacrifice but peace, grace, and mercy that we would manifest among the children of men. For God is love.”
(02:42:16) (Meg) and most of all Action on your Belief
(02:42:17) (Lynn) even gets tough
(02:42:44) (merri) “Keep your paths straight. Know in whom you have believed, as well as in what you believe. For the love as passes understanding can, does, and will make your pathway brighter. Keep in that way.”
(02:43:19) (merri) Jesus presented love on levels, identifying the highest love in this often quoted passage: “No greater love has a person, than to give up his or her life for another” -- not literal death, but giving up self’s desires for another’s. It is thinking more of what another may need than what self may want. Cayce said that Jesus had a secret prayer that he repeated to himself, “Others, Lord, others.” This kept the Father’s power that flowed through Jesus on the rig
(02:43:26) (Meg) God Is Love, t hat says it all !
(02:43:38) (merri) agree
(02:44:05) (merri) the Light and Love that flowed through him -- God’s love, our Father’s and Mother’s love. Selfless loving is the ideal -- giving, caring without expectation of getting something in return. Yet, this must not be self-destructive. No one could accuse Jesus of being a doormat of self-deprecating love. He often radiated a tough love. Those around Him often needed truth, justice, and a clear position on God’s ways, not pampering. Jesus cared so much for others tha
(02:44:09) (Qrious) not literal death?
(02:44:24) (Qrious) secret?... not anymore.
(02:44:54) (merri) their darkness or misunderstandings. Yet he never condemned them. Rather, He called their mistakes to their attention. He also showed a remarkable sense of their inability to handle the full truth, choosing to be patient: “I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now,” John 16:12.
(02:45:32) (merri) A mature love requires that we “rightly divine and divide the truth.” Cayce often referred to this teaching, as in this example:
(02:45:57) (merri) “First, study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman not ashamed, rightly divining - or dividing - the words of truth; that is, giving proper evaluations to the material, the mental, and the spiritual relation-ships, the economic, the social, the orders of things in their proper form. Be not hasty in decisions but know that the answers may come from within,” 189-3.
(02:46:35) (Leon) must step out of the room for awhile, be back asap
(02:46:41) (Lynn) from within
(02:46:45) (merri) In our personal search for spiritual understanding, nothing will empower and illuminate us more than love. But its way is subtle, gentle, choosing to work in the background, quietly. Its workshop is our own hearts and minds; its testing grounds, everyday life and everyday relationships. Prayer and meditation can enhance our ability to understand and practice love in daily life. Supplicant prayer
(02:47:23) (merri) followed by a rising sense of entering into God’s presence, and abiding there in loving at-onement, will yield our better self. This loving presence will be in little things throughout the day -- little things that usually only God and our individual soul know.
(02:48:03) (merri) These loving experiences often leave us humbled but happy and content. Marriage, parenting, friend-ship, work, and self-esteem all improve when love is carried in one’s heart and mind.
(02:48:38) (merri) God truly is love. And abiding in God’s love is transcending, lifting us beyond our normal perspective. “Seek ye first His kingdom (Love), and all else will be added to you.”
(02:48:48) (merri) The End
(02:49:09) (Lynn) Beautiful, merri. thank you
(02:49:31) (merri) Happy Valentines Day Everyone
(02:49:47) (merri) And Abundant Love to you All
(02:49:47) (Lynn) Happy Valentines Day , merri and everyone.
(02:49:51) (Qrious) happy v-day to you as well merri
(02:49:57) (ron) happy valentines day
(02:50:17) (WalksInSpirit) That was great, Merri!
(02:50:28) (diane) Happy Day of Love...both agape and eros
(02:50:29) (WalksInSpirit) Happy Valentine's Day everybody!
(02:50:38) (karen) awesome ,merri
(02:50:49) (Lynn) alright, diane!
(02:50:57) (merri) kooooool diane
(02:51:49) (merri) so alot of what we talked about lastnight was agape love
(02:52:03) (Qrious) Philio.. I would think.
(02:52:13) (Meg) at-one-ment is His presense, knowint that the Christ Consciousness is with us, let me say he died for us, that we might to leave his comforter, His Presence, every day, His Love
(02:52:29) (patricia) hmmm, merri, is last nites chat still the subject of discussion?
(02:52:52) (merri) just posted an article on Love pat
(02:52:53) (Qrious) don't know pat.. but moren'likely
(02:52:55) (Meg) this is my Believe
(02:53:11) (Lynn) I agree Meg,
(02:53:21) (merri) from Personal Spirituality
(02:53:28) (kazu) why does woman love only her own children?
(02:53:30) (Meg) thank you Lynn
(02:53:45) (patricia) who said she does kazu?
(02:53:57) (diane) that's a sad thought, kaz
(02:54:03) (merri) a woman can love many children kazu
(02:54:14) (merri) whether they are hers or not
(02:54:24) (Qrious) because it is a part of her.. she bore and cared for the child with a love.. that is beyond understanding.
(02:55:51) (patricia) i have been pondering all day about what happened in last nights chat
(02:55:59) (Meg) Valantines Day, wow, a day of Love
(02:56:19) (merri) how do you preceive what happened patricia?
(02:57:59) (Qrious) Bill has awesome classed Roz.. we all went at each other.. then I left.. and it got even better.. I think.. lol
(02:58:18) (diane) A lot of talking...and not much listening, it seemed
(02:59:34) (merri) the talk centered mostly about uncondional love
(02:59:46) (merri) and there were many different views
(03:00:13) (Lynn) people were thinking for themselves.
(03:00:18) (Meg) Roz, we just finished in our study group the chapter on Love, and what i got from it this time, was that God is Love, so for me greeting each person with the Love within, no matter what, lol, is most important, :)
(03:00:20) (Lynn) And speaking there thoughts.
(03:00:24) (Lynn) lots of people
(03:00:40) (Qrious) yah.. thats true.. we all had different oppinions on that subject thats for sure.
(03:00:53) (merri) on a whole I think it was a good chat
(03:01:07) (Lynn) It reminded me of when treats are tossed to puppies. Many were scrambling to get some.
(03:01:17) (Lynn) thinking expressing for themselves
(03:01:28) (merri) which is good
(03:01:29) (Qrious) I still don't get that enemy stuff.. but thats o.k.. I might.. or I won't.. no biggy.
(03:01:30) (Meg) i am saying to each person, I greet the divine withion you, and i have great feeling of peace
(03:01:34) (karen) man -ego =god (is love 0
(03:01:40) (Lynn) thinking is a skill, it starts off awkwardly
(03:01:50) (patricia) some of us seem to be stuck and can't move forward.
(03:01:54) (Roz) Bill didn t lose his cool?
(03:02:04) (merri) never!!!
(03:02:06) (merri) lol
(03:02:14) (Qrious) Elvis's Love Me Tonight is playing.. it so romantic.
(03:02:48) (Qrious) naw Roz.. Bill and MaryAnne was taking me to school.. lol
(03:03:11) (patricia) yes, merri
(03:03:45) (Meg) Roz, guess you do not have to do the discipline thing?
(03:04:00) (merri) love the enemy but not his actions Q?
(03:04:05) (Meg) i should have known that
(03:04:17) (patricia) i believe that if EC was here right now, he would say, "well, duh, come on people, lets move into the 21st century"
(03:04:33) (diane) what bothers me is not the free thinking/ expressing part. I guess i failed to recognize a cohesive thread, and saw that behind all the agitation, seemed all were needing the love more than ever
(03:04:35) (Qrious) yah merri.. but mostly that Jesus had the Devil for his ego.. that thing mostly.
(03:04:49) (ron) but there is no need to be a "door mat"
(03:05:21) (Roz) but if disruption ruin s any chance for the exchange of ideas
(03:05:33) (diane) yep
(03:05:50) (Meg) yep , diane,
(03:05:51) (patricia) some will not accept exchange of ideas
(03:05:57) (Meg) sorry roz
(03:05:59) (Lynn) door mat , brings one of my own favorite expressions, You don´t do any body any favors by letting them put it on the karmic wheel at your expense (abuse).
(03:06:03) (diane) i felt tongue tied...overwhelmed
(03:06:18) (merri) unfortunately that is true pat
(03:06:20) (Roz) yah ty diane
(03:06:21) (ron) there were many good exchanges of ideas i thought, excluding several side interuptions
(03:06:39) (merri) agree ron
(03:06:39) (Leon) Stay away from people that "need" love
(03:06:40) (Meg) probably will not share my thoughts for awhile
(03:07:23) (Roz) it is difficult to conduct a study w/ with disruptions w/ no context
(03:07:32) (Lynn) it was in open chat
(03:07:50) (Roz) Meg please dont do that
(03:08:10) (ron) some of these things would eventully stop if we stood up for ourselves...just speak up
(03:08:11) (merri) we appreciate your thoughts Meg
(03:08:56) (merri) and I, for one, appreciated WIS's comments
(03:09:11) (Qrious) well.. everyone had so many interesting variation going on at the same time.. it was hard to keep track of who you wanted to answer.
(03:09:29) (Leon) The whople Universe is filled withlove an ocean of love.. Perhaps there afraid yes afraid of getting thiir feet wet so go ahead and throw a bucket of water on them Lynn
(03:09:50) (Lynn) thanks, and get paid for it.
(03:12:11) (merri) well it was an interesting chat with lots of imput
(03:12:19) (Leon) LOVE--- there's so much being expressed , it fills my senses
(03:12:37) (Lynn) then overflow it to others, Leon.
(03:12:54) (diane) know what? we all have our own favorite style of communication, and maybe a few styles got muzzled last night. lol
(03:13:27) (Leon) That's why I'm here
(03:13:29) (diane) Free-for - alls are not my forte, i guess
(03:13:37) (Lynn) and I am grateful, Leon.
(03:13:42) (Qrious) ground control to Leon... ground control to Leon.. lol.. take me where your at man..
(03:13:46) (Roz) doesnt make sense does it diane
(03:14:08) (patricia) me either diane.
(03:14:18) (Leon) You'll see me on the sunny side of the street
(03:14:30) (merri) did you see lastnight as a free forall diane
(03:14:59) (ron) i thought it was a race for and around the Moon
(03:15:03) (karen) i am with you both Roz and diane, free for alls would send me to the moon ground control
(03:15:12) (diane) lol merri...almost
(03:15:21) (Meg) And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three, but the greathest of these is Love
