Post by WalksInSpirit on Jun 25, 2007 22:26:07 GMT -5
No Soul Left Behind: 06-25-07
(09:05:57) (~AutoGreeter) The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to No Soul Left Behind Study, Hosted By GG (Lory).
(09:24:41) (@host-GG) Continuation of Words and Wisdom of Edgar Cayce, No Soul Left Behind. Relationships:
(09:33:19) (@host-GG) Q: How should couples decide when to give or to take?
(09:33:45) (@host-GG) A: "[They] should realize that there are obligations and duties that each one owes to those for whom they have been responsible, for the development and training of lives, of life itself and the part it has to play in contributing to the better welfare of those minds and bodies.
(09:34:11) (@host-GG) Then, though there may be conditions not conducive to the better fulfilling of personal desires, these should be foregone in the face of obligations to others.
(09:34:41) (@host-GG) "And, as has been given, the law of the Lord is perfect. You cannot escape your responsibility, and you cannot make peace with others until you find peace within your own consciousness. These, then, should be the manners in which judgments should be drawn.
(09:35:15) (@host-GG) "Each should study and know that this union of activity has been and is chosen by [your] self. Then remain true to the promises, to the obligations, and be not in self overcome with those things which if embraced will cause continual stumbling . . . . Then, so live within your own self that the consciousness of self replies back.
(09:35:52) (@host-GG) Not that you've got [an] advantage over the other fellow, not that you would become pessimistic, but rather: 'Lord, here am I. Use me. Let my life, my purposes in same, through the power in those influences with which I have worshiped and do worship, bring that ability in me; to choose to do that which is right at all times, irrespective of the cost
(09:36:12) (@host-GG) or expense to myself ~~ mentally or materially.' For indeed it is true that the flesh is often weak, yet the spirit is willing." 1449-2
(09:36:37) (@host-GG) Q: How can we get into the mind of the Creator and do what He would have us do?
(09:37:05) (@host-GG) A: "Is your purpose, is your desire one with Him? These be your tests . . . In manifesting relationships with your fellow man [do you show] the fruits of the spirit? Have you grown more tolerant? Have you grown more patient? Have you shown more brotherly love?
(09:37:34) (@host-GG) Have you given of yourself, denying yourself that they who have lost hope, they who are wandering, they who are discouraged might be encouraged, find hope?
(09:37:56) (@host-GG) "Then you know you are growing in grace, in knowledge, in understanding of your purposes in the earth.
(09:38:22) (@host-GG) "Have you grown to be so they who meet you day by day take thought that you have in your mental self walked with your Maker?
(09:38:41) (@host-GG) "These you answer from within yourself. These you know, these you understand. Follow in the way that leads to everlasting love, for He is love." 816-10
(09:39:02) (@host-GG) Q: Does being smarter help us get along with other people better?
(09:39:27) (@host-GG) A: "Gain first that knowledge within self of its, the entity's atonement with the Creative Forces that manifest and have manifested themselves among men; in the applications of the Law of One; that is: God is, and is one!
(09:39:49) (@host-GG) "Hence all force, all power comes from that as an influence and force; man's application making it as an at-one-ment with or as a directing of it for self's own indulgence, glorification, or satisfaction.
(09:40:23) (@host-GG) "Love, then, divine as was manifested in Jesus of Nazareth, must be the rule, the measuring stick, the rod, by which you shall judge your motives, your impulses, your associations. For without Him there is not anything made that is made ~~ to endure.
(09:40:50) (@host-GG) "Man may produce the stumbling-stones; God alone ~~ in the heart of man ~~ may make them stepping-stones! Love the Lord, keep His ways, manifest them in every walk of life. Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, love, obey the living God!" 1497-1
(09:41:13) (@host-GG) "Man may produce the stumbling-stones; God alone ~~ in the heart of man ~~ may make them stepping-stones! Love the Lord, keep His ways, manifest them in every walk of life. Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, love, obey the living God!" 1497-1
(09:41:33) (@host-GG) Q: What are the keys to a successful intimate relationship?
(09:42:02) (@host-GG) A: "Much, to be sure, has to be worked out; in their application of not indulgences, not dependencies, not laudation one towards another, but in patience, in tolerance, in love that is truly manifest between those that would show forth in their every relation these
(09:42:25) (@host-GG) attributes in their combined effort toward their fellow man. Then, these used or applied in these ways and manners will make for a union that is holy, that is acceptable to Him
(09:42:52) (@host-GG) "Each soul has its share not only of responsibility one toward the other, but of dependency one upon the other. Let both ever strive in their relationships, then, to become more and more a complement one to the other.
(09:43:14) (@host-GG) And in this manner may there come to each a life experience more and ore worthwhile. Then more and more may the beauties of purposefulness, of righteousness, of patience, of love, grow to be more beauteous, more worthwhile in the experience of each.
(09:43:23) (@host-GG) And in this manner may there come to each a life experience more and ore worthwhile. Then more and more may the beauties of purposefulness, of righteousness, of patience, of love, grow to be more beauteous, more worthwhile in the experience of each.
(09:43:46) (@host-GG) "There may arise ~~ and, as we find, there will arise ~~ some experiences that for the moment will make it appear that this was not the more propitious time; yet we find that those experiences which are to arise in the life of each will be made much better, much more worth while, if this union of purpose ;is accomplished in this present season.
(09:44:15) (@host-GG) "Periods will arise when due consideration must be given to each, in your outlook, your obligations, your purposes; but let each know that this union of purpose must be ever in the light of what your Father, your God, your Savior, would have you do!
(09:44:37) (@host-GG) Let the ideals ever be set, then, in Him. Then those period of turmoil, or fears and doubts on the part of each, will become stepping-stones for a greater and greater love, a greater expression of His love.
(09:44:56) (@host-GG) "Let both find their own interpretations, but let both apply those interpretations in the light of His love; then they will be found to be one.
(09:45:28) (@host-GG) "In your applications of the whole of purposefulness, let it never be just for self. Consider others, even as He. Yet in the applications, let them be as one. Know that it is a fifty-fifty union. One should not always be forgiving and the other forgiven! But let both in their own selves look to and for that which will make the
(09:45:59) (@host-GG) experience, the association, and the union of purpose, more and more as an exemplification of His Spirit, His love, His blessings upon all that you do; so living, so acting, that you may make this as the real standard, the real experience, the real beginning of each becoming more and ore, more and more worthwhile.
(09:46:24) (@host-GG) "Let both assume the obligations; not merely as obligations, not as duties alone, but as loving opportunities for each to be that helpmate to the other which will make a life of beauty, of joy; not only to selves but to others also." 849-12
(09:46:56) (@host-GG) Q: You've talked about love as a prime mover in human relations, but you did not mention sex. What is its place in our lives?
(09:47:20) (@host-GG) A: "There is no soul but what the sex life becomes the greater influence in life." 911-2
(09:47:48) (@host-GG) Q: Why is that?
(09:48:07) (@host-GG) A: "The material things [or those in a three-dimensional world] are the shadow or the reflections of those in the spiritual life. Then, as God or the Creative Influence is the source of all things, the second law in spiritual life, in mental life, in material life, is preservation of self and the continuation of likes, or propagation, the sexual intercourse or life.
(09:48:30) (@host-GG) Hence in their very basic forces, the relations in sexual life should be the outcome [in order to propagate life] ~~ not the purpose of, but the outcome of the answering of soul to soul in their associations and relations. And the act, or the associations in this nature, should be the result.
(09:48:54) (@host-GG) "Hence these questions should be often weighed well, remembering that God, or Love [for it is One], looks on the heart rather than the outward appearances . . .
(09:49:14) (@host-GG) "For, in the understandings, know that Love and God are One; that relations in the sexual life are the manifestations in the mental attributes of each as to an expression of what becomes manifested in the experience of each so concerned.
(09:49:32) (@host-GG) For, unless such associations become on such a basis, they become vile in the experience of those that join in such relations." 272-7
(09:50:03) (@host-GG) Q: Sex obviously is the most profoundly creative act since Creation; but does our sexuality also influence other forms of creativity, such as the art ~~ music, writing, painting, and many others?
(09:51:22) (@host-GG) A: "As sex is that channel through which creation in the material world brings forth that which is of creating itself, so are the organs of same ~~ the centers through which all creative energies ~~ whether mental or spiritual ~~ find their inception in a material world for an expression. As have been given, when this force in sex is
(09:51:47) (@host-GG) raised, or rated, in its inception through the mental forces [thoughts or desires] of the body, this finds expression in that of giving the love influence in the life or lives of the individual, as well as what may be brought into being as a gratification of a physical desire. [Sexual desire, in short, is the trigger for perpetuating the human specie, and it fosters love relationships that also gratify physical desires.]" 911-
(09:52:29) (@host-GG) Q: Does sexual incompatibility hamper creativity?
(09:52:54) (@host-GG) A: "Incompatibility that is between two individuals as given here, is that which makes for the inability for any creative forces to become compatible between the individuals . . . Not always in gratification in the physical act, buy rather what finds expression in the creative forces and creative abilities of the body itself." 911-2
(09:53:21) (@host-GG) Q: The Bible story of the Garden of Eden suggests that God's children messed up in some way. Was this where our problem with sex began?
(09:53:52) (@host-GG) A: "Adam and Eve, the knowledge of their position, or what is known in the material world today as desires and physical bodily charms, the understanding of sex, sex relationships, came into the [human] experience.
(09:54:21) (@host-GG) . With these [two individuals] came the natural fear of what had been forbidden, what they know themselves to be a part of but not of that partook of earthy, or the desires in the manner as were about them, in what had been their heritage . . .
(09:54:57) (@host-GG) "Hence we have found throughout the ages, so often the times when conception of truth became rampant with free love, with the desecration of those things that brought to these [Adam and Eve] in the beginning the knowledge of their existence, as to what may be termed ~~ and at times became ~~ the moral, or morality of a people.
(09:55:38) (@host-GG) "Yet this same feeling, this same exaltation that comes from association of kindred bodies ~~ that have their lives consecrated in a purposefulness, that makes for the ability of retaining those of the essence of creation in every virile body ~~ can be made to become the fires that light truth, love, hope, patience, peace, harmony.
(09:56:10) (@host-GG) For they are ever the key to those influences that fire the imaginations of those that are gifted in any form of depicting the high emotions of human experience, whether it be in the one or the other fields, and hence is judged by those that may not be able, or through desire submit themselves . . . to those elements, through the forces in the life about them." 364-6
(09:56:37) (@host-GG) Q: Is marriage necessary and advisable?
(09:57:02) (@host-GG) A: "It is! When a man or woman has chosen {for it must be choice, and is only by choice that one remains out of relationships with the opposite sex in marriage} ~~ if one has chosen to not be in such relationships,
(09:57:26) (@host-GG) then be true to the choice [and live a celibate life]; or else it is to self a sin! For what one would pretend to be and isn't [such as a married person who violates his or her vows of fidelity] is indeed sin!" 826-6
(09:58:09) (@host-GG) Q: Our society favors monogamy but some other cultures approve of different forms of marital relationships? Is one superior to another?
(09:58:43) (@host-GG) A: "Let the teachings be rather toward the spiritual intent [of those entering into such relationship[s, such as whether a man who takes one wife or more than one is a caring or an exploitive husband]. Whether it's monogamy, polygamy, or what not, let it be the answering of the answering of the spiritual within the individual!
(09:58:56) (@host-GG) Blessings Ral. Sorry about the delay
(09:59:15) (@host-GG) "But monogamy is the best, of course, as indicated from the Scripture itself ~~ one ~~ one! For the union of one should ever be one." 826-6
(09:59:54) (@host-GG) Q: Would it be acceptable for a woman who desires to marry to be one of two or more wives to a man in a home rather than to remain alone and unmarried?
(10:00:12) (@host-GG) Wow what a question......
(10:00:41) (@host-GG) A: "This is again a matter of principle; or the urge within such conditions must be conformative to the ideal [of love and kindness]. In the education of individuals as regarding sex relationships, as in every other educational activity, there must be a standard or a rule to go by or an ideal state that has its inception not in the emotions of a
(10:01:04) (@host-GG) physical body but from the spiritual ideal [of unconditional love and commitment] which has been set, which was set and given to man in his relation to the Creative Forces. Then to ask or to seek or to advise or to give suggestions even, that it may be done outside of that, isn't being true to that as is presented." 826-6
(10:01:43) (@host-GG) Q: Should men or women who don't have the opportunity to marry be free to have sexual relationships outside of marriage?
(10:02:35) (@host-GG) A: "This again is a matter of principle within the individual. The sex organs, the sex demands of every individual, must be gratified in some manner as a portion of the biological urge within the individual. These begin in the present with curiosity.
(10:03:18) (@host-GG) For it is as natural for there to be sexual relations between man and woman, when drawn together in their regular relations or activities, as it is for the flowers to bloom in the spring, or for the snows to come in the winter, when the atmospheric conditions are conducive or inductive to such conditions." 826-6
(10:04:12) (@host-GG) Shall we quit for this session?
(10:05:20) (mabel) it up to you of course-some might interesting questions
(10:05:41) (@host-GG) Q: Can't sex relationships outside of marriage also be lovingly spiritual?
(10:06:23) (@host-GG) A: "The relationships that come from that which is of the highest vibrations that are experienced in the material world are those that may be found in such relations, and [also] are the basis of what is termed the original sin; and hence may be easily misunderstood,
(10:06:53) (@host-GG) misconstrued, misinterpreted in the experience of every individual; but these should be known ~~ that the control of such, rather than being controlled by such, gives what makes for the awareness of spiritual intent and purpose. To overstep those conditions created by those environs in social relations and atmospheres that are brought about by such, however,
(10:07:25) (@host-GG) is to take those leaves with self that may not be easily retained. Take not, give not, that that cannot be taken and given in the spirit of 'His will, not mine, be done!' Each must judge such for themselves, in the light of their understanding. Each has the right say I will, I will not." 911-5
(10:08:58) (@host-GG) I think we should quit for tonight. It just seems to me that we covered this before, but because I type it, perhaps that is why it is so familiar.
(10:08:59) (Merri) LOL
(10:10:14) (mabel) thank you GG for the chat information
(10:10:45) (Merri) answers are pretty clear
(10:10:49) (Cris) Do you think one of those last passages endorse polygamy?
(10:11:14) (Cris) Or just let people settle for it if it is their collective desire
(10:11:20) (Merri) no, not in my opinion
(10:11:35) (@host-GG) I don't think Cayce endorses it so much, Cris, as he says it is within the understanding of those who are involved as to what decisions they might make.
(10:11:43) (mabel) it doesn't seem to rule it out does it
(10:11:59) (Cris) Not in mine but it seemed almost that it could ride in some cases
(10:12:14) (Cris) I would not like to be a plural wife
(10:12:43) (Merri) in think "intent" might be the keyword
(10:12:50) (Cris) Many of those who are today are beginning to rebel
(10:12:55) (@host-GG) Well, it definitely gives a lot of room for anyone reading it to give it a meaningful 'go for it' doesn't it? :-)
(10:13:24) (@host-GG) I, too, believe intent is the right word, Merri.
(10:14:01) (@host-GG) Perhaps that is because we have been monogamous, Cris.
(10:14:22) (Cris) Possibly so
(10:14:41) (Cris) Possibly because it wasn't a happy experience in the past
(10:14:47) (Merri) I could see a time when it might have been practiced, when conditions were harsh and the world was sparsely populated
(10:15:16) (Merri) but not in today's conditions
(10:15:26) (Cris) I read a lot on religions but I can't get any loving feeling for plural marriages instead I get a terrible feeling of dread and wonder if it wasn't past life
(10:15:47) (Cris) experience at some time and place
(10:16:06) (@host-GG) Since God gave us free will, and since we can learn and grow and be forgiven, I feel that those who may have practiced it in the past are moving forward nevertheless.
(10:16:44) (Merri) besides that practice was surely started by a man!!
(10:19:30) (Merri) I cannot see, in today's society, where it would serve any purpose except to boost a man's ego
(10:20:28) (Cris) `Neither can I
(10:20:44) (Merri) I like Cayce's remark "to control the situation not be controlled by it"
(10:20:47) (Cris) There is no accounting for mindsets
(10:20:50) (@host-GG) There are too many children being born to parents who do not wish to really take care of them today. It would be disastrous
(10:21:16) (Cris) Especially when people are raised in closed societies
(10:22:00) (@host-GG) Actually polygamy is going on today, just under another word. Promiscuity.
(10:22:24) (@host-GG) Or, if you will, cheating.
(10:22:34) (Merri) those cults that spring up and practice polygamy, their children end up on the welfare rolls
(10:23:54) (Cris) I am for adoption when people refuse to care for their children I think neglect should be a reason to sever parental rights
(10:24:17) (Cris) Children have the right to a loving stable home
(10:24:17) (Merri) it is
(10:27:57) (Merri) I remember reading the Khan fathered over 100 children, can you imagine doing that today!
(10:28:35) (@host-GG) Not with birth control gadgets, Merri. lol]
(10:28:46) (Merri) LOL
(10:30:39) (@host-GG) Goodnight All. Sweet Dreams. LOVE
(10:30:49) (Merri) Blessings Lory
(10:31:01) (Merri) TY so much for the chat
(09:24:41) (@host-GG) Continuation of Words and Wisdom of Edgar Cayce, No Soul Left Behind. Relationships:
(09:33:19) (@host-GG) Q: How should couples decide when to give or to take?
(09:33:45) (@host-GG) A: "[They] should realize that there are obligations and duties that each one owes to those for whom they have been responsible, for the development and training of lives, of life itself and the part it has to play in contributing to the better welfare of those minds and bodies.
(09:34:11) (@host-GG) Then, though there may be conditions not conducive to the better fulfilling of personal desires, these should be foregone in the face of obligations to others.
(09:34:41) (@host-GG) "And, as has been given, the law of the Lord is perfect. You cannot escape your responsibility, and you cannot make peace with others until you find peace within your own consciousness. These, then, should be the manners in which judgments should be drawn.
(09:35:15) (@host-GG) "Each should study and know that this union of activity has been and is chosen by [your] self. Then remain true to the promises, to the obligations, and be not in self overcome with those things which if embraced will cause continual stumbling . . . . Then, so live within your own self that the consciousness of self replies back.
(09:35:52) (@host-GG) Not that you've got [an] advantage over the other fellow, not that you would become pessimistic, but rather: 'Lord, here am I. Use me. Let my life, my purposes in same, through the power in those influences with which I have worshiped and do worship, bring that ability in me; to choose to do that which is right at all times, irrespective of the cost
(09:36:12) (@host-GG) or expense to myself ~~ mentally or materially.' For indeed it is true that the flesh is often weak, yet the spirit is willing." 1449-2
(09:36:37) (@host-GG) Q: How can we get into the mind of the Creator and do what He would have us do?
(09:37:05) (@host-GG) A: "Is your purpose, is your desire one with Him? These be your tests . . . In manifesting relationships with your fellow man [do you show] the fruits of the spirit? Have you grown more tolerant? Have you grown more patient? Have you shown more brotherly love?
(09:37:34) (@host-GG) Have you given of yourself, denying yourself that they who have lost hope, they who are wandering, they who are discouraged might be encouraged, find hope?
(09:37:56) (@host-GG) "Then you know you are growing in grace, in knowledge, in understanding of your purposes in the earth.
(09:38:22) (@host-GG) "Have you grown to be so they who meet you day by day take thought that you have in your mental self walked with your Maker?
(09:38:41) (@host-GG) "These you answer from within yourself. These you know, these you understand. Follow in the way that leads to everlasting love, for He is love." 816-10
(09:39:02) (@host-GG) Q: Does being smarter help us get along with other people better?
(09:39:27) (@host-GG) A: "Gain first that knowledge within self of its, the entity's atonement with the Creative Forces that manifest and have manifested themselves among men; in the applications of the Law of One; that is: God is, and is one!
(09:39:49) (@host-GG) "Hence all force, all power comes from that as an influence and force; man's application making it as an at-one-ment with or as a directing of it for self's own indulgence, glorification, or satisfaction.
(09:40:23) (@host-GG) "Love, then, divine as was manifested in Jesus of Nazareth, must be the rule, the measuring stick, the rod, by which you shall judge your motives, your impulses, your associations. For without Him there is not anything made that is made ~~ to endure.
(09:40:50) (@host-GG) "Man may produce the stumbling-stones; God alone ~~ in the heart of man ~~ may make them stepping-stones! Love the Lord, keep His ways, manifest them in every walk of life. Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, love, obey the living God!" 1497-1
(09:41:13) (@host-GG) "Man may produce the stumbling-stones; God alone ~~ in the heart of man ~~ may make them stepping-stones! Love the Lord, keep His ways, manifest them in every walk of life. Let others do as they may, but as for you and your house, love, obey the living God!" 1497-1
(09:41:33) (@host-GG) Q: What are the keys to a successful intimate relationship?
(09:42:02) (@host-GG) A: "Much, to be sure, has to be worked out; in their application of not indulgences, not dependencies, not laudation one towards another, but in patience, in tolerance, in love that is truly manifest between those that would show forth in their every relation these
(09:42:25) (@host-GG) attributes in their combined effort toward their fellow man. Then, these used or applied in these ways and manners will make for a union that is holy, that is acceptable to Him
(09:42:52) (@host-GG) "Each soul has its share not only of responsibility one toward the other, but of dependency one upon the other. Let both ever strive in their relationships, then, to become more and more a complement one to the other.
(09:43:14) (@host-GG) And in this manner may there come to each a life experience more and ore worthwhile. Then more and more may the beauties of purposefulness, of righteousness, of patience, of love, grow to be more beauteous, more worthwhile in the experience of each.
(09:43:23) (@host-GG) And in this manner may there come to each a life experience more and ore worthwhile. Then more and more may the beauties of purposefulness, of righteousness, of patience, of love, grow to be more beauteous, more worthwhile in the experience of each.
(09:43:46) (@host-GG) "There may arise ~~ and, as we find, there will arise ~~ some experiences that for the moment will make it appear that this was not the more propitious time; yet we find that those experiences which are to arise in the life of each will be made much better, much more worth while, if this union of purpose ;is accomplished in this present season.
(09:44:15) (@host-GG) "Periods will arise when due consideration must be given to each, in your outlook, your obligations, your purposes; but let each know that this union of purpose must be ever in the light of what your Father, your God, your Savior, would have you do!
(09:44:37) (@host-GG) Let the ideals ever be set, then, in Him. Then those period of turmoil, or fears and doubts on the part of each, will become stepping-stones for a greater and greater love, a greater expression of His love.
(09:44:56) (@host-GG) "Let both find their own interpretations, but let both apply those interpretations in the light of His love; then they will be found to be one.
(09:45:28) (@host-GG) "In your applications of the whole of purposefulness, let it never be just for self. Consider others, even as He. Yet in the applications, let them be as one. Know that it is a fifty-fifty union. One should not always be forgiving and the other forgiven! But let both in their own selves look to and for that which will make the
(09:45:59) (@host-GG) experience, the association, and the union of purpose, more and more as an exemplification of His Spirit, His love, His blessings upon all that you do; so living, so acting, that you may make this as the real standard, the real experience, the real beginning of each becoming more and ore, more and more worthwhile.
(09:46:24) (@host-GG) "Let both assume the obligations; not merely as obligations, not as duties alone, but as loving opportunities for each to be that helpmate to the other which will make a life of beauty, of joy; not only to selves but to others also." 849-12
(09:46:56) (@host-GG) Q: You've talked about love as a prime mover in human relations, but you did not mention sex. What is its place in our lives?
(09:47:20) (@host-GG) A: "There is no soul but what the sex life becomes the greater influence in life." 911-2
(09:47:48) (@host-GG) Q: Why is that?
(09:48:07) (@host-GG) A: "The material things [or those in a three-dimensional world] are the shadow or the reflections of those in the spiritual life. Then, as God or the Creative Influence is the source of all things, the second law in spiritual life, in mental life, in material life, is preservation of self and the continuation of likes, or propagation, the sexual intercourse or life.
(09:48:30) (@host-GG) Hence in their very basic forces, the relations in sexual life should be the outcome [in order to propagate life] ~~ not the purpose of, but the outcome of the answering of soul to soul in their associations and relations. And the act, or the associations in this nature, should be the result.
(09:48:54) (@host-GG) "Hence these questions should be often weighed well, remembering that God, or Love [for it is One], looks on the heart rather than the outward appearances . . .
(09:49:14) (@host-GG) "For, in the understandings, know that Love and God are One; that relations in the sexual life are the manifestations in the mental attributes of each as to an expression of what becomes manifested in the experience of each so concerned.
(09:49:32) (@host-GG) For, unless such associations become on such a basis, they become vile in the experience of those that join in such relations." 272-7
(09:50:03) (@host-GG) Q: Sex obviously is the most profoundly creative act since Creation; but does our sexuality also influence other forms of creativity, such as the art ~~ music, writing, painting, and many others?
(09:51:22) (@host-GG) A: "As sex is that channel through which creation in the material world brings forth that which is of creating itself, so are the organs of same ~~ the centers through which all creative energies ~~ whether mental or spiritual ~~ find their inception in a material world for an expression. As have been given, when this force in sex is
(09:51:47) (@host-GG) raised, or rated, in its inception through the mental forces [thoughts or desires] of the body, this finds expression in that of giving the love influence in the life or lives of the individual, as well as what may be brought into being as a gratification of a physical desire. [Sexual desire, in short, is the trigger for perpetuating the human specie, and it fosters love relationships that also gratify physical desires.]" 911-
(09:52:29) (@host-GG) Q: Does sexual incompatibility hamper creativity?
(09:52:54) (@host-GG) A: "Incompatibility that is between two individuals as given here, is that which makes for the inability for any creative forces to become compatible between the individuals . . . Not always in gratification in the physical act, buy rather what finds expression in the creative forces and creative abilities of the body itself." 911-2
(09:53:21) (@host-GG) Q: The Bible story of the Garden of Eden suggests that God's children messed up in some way. Was this where our problem with sex began?
(09:53:52) (@host-GG) A: "Adam and Eve, the knowledge of their position, or what is known in the material world today as desires and physical bodily charms, the understanding of sex, sex relationships, came into the [human] experience.
(09:54:21) (@host-GG) . With these [two individuals] came the natural fear of what had been forbidden, what they know themselves to be a part of but not of that partook of earthy, or the desires in the manner as were about them, in what had been their heritage . . .
(09:54:57) (@host-GG) "Hence we have found throughout the ages, so often the times when conception of truth became rampant with free love, with the desecration of those things that brought to these [Adam and Eve] in the beginning the knowledge of their existence, as to what may be termed ~~ and at times became ~~ the moral, or morality of a people.
(09:55:38) (@host-GG) "Yet this same feeling, this same exaltation that comes from association of kindred bodies ~~ that have their lives consecrated in a purposefulness, that makes for the ability of retaining those of the essence of creation in every virile body ~~ can be made to become the fires that light truth, love, hope, patience, peace, harmony.
(09:56:10) (@host-GG) For they are ever the key to those influences that fire the imaginations of those that are gifted in any form of depicting the high emotions of human experience, whether it be in the one or the other fields, and hence is judged by those that may not be able, or through desire submit themselves . . . to those elements, through the forces in the life about them." 364-6
(09:56:37) (@host-GG) Q: Is marriage necessary and advisable?
(09:57:02) (@host-GG) A: "It is! When a man or woman has chosen {for it must be choice, and is only by choice that one remains out of relationships with the opposite sex in marriage} ~~ if one has chosen to not be in such relationships,
(09:57:26) (@host-GG) then be true to the choice [and live a celibate life]; or else it is to self a sin! For what one would pretend to be and isn't [such as a married person who violates his or her vows of fidelity] is indeed sin!" 826-6
(09:58:09) (@host-GG) Q: Our society favors monogamy but some other cultures approve of different forms of marital relationships? Is one superior to another?
(09:58:43) (@host-GG) A: "Let the teachings be rather toward the spiritual intent [of those entering into such relationship[s, such as whether a man who takes one wife or more than one is a caring or an exploitive husband]. Whether it's monogamy, polygamy, or what not, let it be the answering of the answering of the spiritual within the individual!
(09:58:56) (@host-GG) Blessings Ral. Sorry about the delay
(09:59:15) (@host-GG) "But monogamy is the best, of course, as indicated from the Scripture itself ~~ one ~~ one! For the union of one should ever be one." 826-6
(09:59:54) (@host-GG) Q: Would it be acceptable for a woman who desires to marry to be one of two or more wives to a man in a home rather than to remain alone and unmarried?
(10:00:12) (@host-GG) Wow what a question......
(10:00:41) (@host-GG) A: "This is again a matter of principle; or the urge within such conditions must be conformative to the ideal [of love and kindness]. In the education of individuals as regarding sex relationships, as in every other educational activity, there must be a standard or a rule to go by or an ideal state that has its inception not in the emotions of a
(10:01:04) (@host-GG) physical body but from the spiritual ideal [of unconditional love and commitment] which has been set, which was set and given to man in his relation to the Creative Forces. Then to ask or to seek or to advise or to give suggestions even, that it may be done outside of that, isn't being true to that as is presented." 826-6
(10:01:43) (@host-GG) Q: Should men or women who don't have the opportunity to marry be free to have sexual relationships outside of marriage?
(10:02:35) (@host-GG) A: "This again is a matter of principle within the individual. The sex organs, the sex demands of every individual, must be gratified in some manner as a portion of the biological urge within the individual. These begin in the present with curiosity.
(10:03:18) (@host-GG) For it is as natural for there to be sexual relations between man and woman, when drawn together in their regular relations or activities, as it is for the flowers to bloom in the spring, or for the snows to come in the winter, when the atmospheric conditions are conducive or inductive to such conditions." 826-6
(10:04:12) (@host-GG) Shall we quit for this session?
(10:05:20) (mabel) it up to you of course-some might interesting questions
(10:05:41) (@host-GG) Q: Can't sex relationships outside of marriage also be lovingly spiritual?
(10:06:23) (@host-GG) A: "The relationships that come from that which is of the highest vibrations that are experienced in the material world are those that may be found in such relations, and [also] are the basis of what is termed the original sin; and hence may be easily misunderstood,
(10:06:53) (@host-GG) misconstrued, misinterpreted in the experience of every individual; but these should be known ~~ that the control of such, rather than being controlled by such, gives what makes for the awareness of spiritual intent and purpose. To overstep those conditions created by those environs in social relations and atmospheres that are brought about by such, however,
(10:07:25) (@host-GG) is to take those leaves with self that may not be easily retained. Take not, give not, that that cannot be taken and given in the spirit of 'His will, not mine, be done!' Each must judge such for themselves, in the light of their understanding. Each has the right say I will, I will not." 911-5
(10:08:58) (@host-GG) I think we should quit for tonight. It just seems to me that we covered this before, but because I type it, perhaps that is why it is so familiar.
(10:08:59) (Merri) LOL
(10:10:14) (mabel) thank you GG for the chat information
(10:10:45) (Merri) answers are pretty clear
(10:10:49) (Cris) Do you think one of those last passages endorse polygamy?
(10:11:14) (Cris) Or just let people settle for it if it is their collective desire
(10:11:20) (Merri) no, not in my opinion
(10:11:35) (@host-GG) I don't think Cayce endorses it so much, Cris, as he says it is within the understanding of those who are involved as to what decisions they might make.
(10:11:43) (mabel) it doesn't seem to rule it out does it
(10:11:59) (Cris) Not in mine but it seemed almost that it could ride in some cases
(10:12:14) (Cris) I would not like to be a plural wife
(10:12:43) (Merri) in think "intent" might be the keyword
(10:12:50) (Cris) Many of those who are today are beginning to rebel
(10:12:55) (@host-GG) Well, it definitely gives a lot of room for anyone reading it to give it a meaningful 'go for it' doesn't it? :-)
(10:13:24) (@host-GG) I, too, believe intent is the right word, Merri.
(10:14:01) (@host-GG) Perhaps that is because we have been monogamous, Cris.
(10:14:22) (Cris) Possibly so
(10:14:41) (Cris) Possibly because it wasn't a happy experience in the past
(10:14:47) (Merri) I could see a time when it might have been practiced, when conditions were harsh and the world was sparsely populated
(10:15:16) (Merri) but not in today's conditions
(10:15:26) (Cris) I read a lot on religions but I can't get any loving feeling for plural marriages instead I get a terrible feeling of dread and wonder if it wasn't past life
(10:15:47) (Cris) experience at some time and place
(10:16:06) (@host-GG) Since God gave us free will, and since we can learn and grow and be forgiven, I feel that those who may have practiced it in the past are moving forward nevertheless.
(10:16:44) (Merri) besides that practice was surely started by a man!!
(10:19:30) (Merri) I cannot see, in today's society, where it would serve any purpose except to boost a man's ego
(10:20:28) (Cris) `Neither can I
(10:20:44) (Merri) I like Cayce's remark "to control the situation not be controlled by it"
(10:20:47) (Cris) There is no accounting for mindsets
(10:20:50) (@host-GG) There are too many children being born to parents who do not wish to really take care of them today. It would be disastrous
(10:21:16) (Cris) Especially when people are raised in closed societies
(10:22:00) (@host-GG) Actually polygamy is going on today, just under another word. Promiscuity.
(10:22:24) (@host-GG) Or, if you will, cheating.
(10:22:34) (Merri) those cults that spring up and practice polygamy, their children end up on the welfare rolls
(10:23:54) (Cris) I am for adoption when people refuse to care for their children I think neglect should be a reason to sever parental rights
(10:24:17) (Cris) Children have the right to a loving stable home
(10:24:17) (Merri) it is
(10:27:57) (Merri) I remember reading the Khan fathered over 100 children, can you imagine doing that today!
(10:28:35) (@host-GG) Not with birth control gadgets, Merri. lol]
(10:28:46) (Merri) LOL
(10:30:39) (@host-GG) Goodnight All. Sweet Dreams. LOVE
(10:30:49) (Merri) Blessings Lory
(10:31:01) (Merri) TY so much for the chat
