Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 21, 2006 21:35:56 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat:08-21-06
(09:31:07) (Bill) Well time to get on with the lesson everyone focused and ready for action i hope!
(09:31:26) (Bill) : Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.)
(09:31:29) (ron) i heard that recently Mother Earth has joined the Weight Watchers Club
(09:31:36) (Bill) Amen
(09:31:37) (MaryAnne) lol
(09:31:45) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:47) (ron) amen
(09:31:50) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:31:59) (mark) Amen
(09:32:04) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:32:05) (BrightEyes) Amen
(09:32:13) (BrightEyes) Aperson
(09:32:25) (Rosie) lol
(09:32:46) (Bill) “As to how, where, when and what produces the entrance into a material manifestation of an entity, a soul:
(09:33:06) (Bill) “In the beginning, was that which set in motion that which is seen in manifested form, with the laws governing same. The inability of destroying matter, the ability of each force, each source of power or contact as it meets in its various forms, produces that which is a manifestation in a particular sphere.
(09:33:40) (Bill) This may be seen in those elements used in the various manifested ways of preparing for man; in many ways those things bespeak of the laws that govern man’s relationship to the First Cause, or God.
(09:34:07) (Bill) “Then, this is the principle: Like begets like. Those things that are positive and negative forces combine to form in a different source, or different manifestation, the combinations, of which each element, each first principle manifested, has gained from its associations in its activities that which has been brought to bear by self or that about it to produce that manifestation.
(09:34:52) (Bill) “Hence man, the crowning of all manifestation in a material world ~~ a causation world ~~ finds self as the cause and product of that he (man), with those abilities given, has been able to produce, or demonstrate, or manifest, from that he (the soul) has gained, does gain, in the transition, the change, the going toward that (and being of that) from which he came.
(09:35:51) (Bill) “Periods, times, places: That which is builded each in its place, each in its time. “This is shown to man in the elemental world about him. Man’s consciousness of that about him is gained through that (which) he, man, does about knowledge of that he is, as in relation to that from which he came and towards which he is going.
(09:36:39) (Bill) “Hence in man’s analysis and understanding of himself it is as well to know whence he came as to know whither he is going.” (5753-1.)
(09:37:06) (Bill) “That not only one element but every element in a universal force has its effect upon the various phenomena of life in the action of an individual entity in its relationship to the whole. Hence we find the prerogative: that one factor of the inner force or spark of the entity’s association, or the entity’s relative force from the first or from the universal cause of creative energy, has its activity throughout.
(09:37:44) (Bill) See? This rather deep, but well worth studying, well worth understanding, that the application of same may be made as respecting any phenomena of life.” (900-359.)
(09:38:23) (Bill) This is to say that, regardless of the seeming complexity of existence in this plane, the original impulse which gave the soul its being will manifest and dominate throughout any experience if given the opportunity of expression.
(09:39:06) (Bill) “(900-359) In the greater or lesser degree this same universal force as is applied in this sense is the same way and manner in which ideas or ideals of an individual respond to the various conditions as may be presented to self through the various forms of that called the experiences or the phenomena of life.
(09:39:40) (Bill) Man from the purely material sense only becomes conscious through the sensuousness or through the ability of attunement of the sensuousness of the physical body, or through the five senses.
(09:40:13) (Bill) “Yet ever is that sixth, seventh or eighth sense of the entity alert to the various responses as received by the inner self through the various experiences of life. Hence we find in many various phases of same these ~~ taken as an oneness ~~ become as it were branches or lines of study sought out by individuals and classified as the keynote;
(09:40:51) (Bill) yet no one is superior to the other in its influence upon the individual life, save as to what the individual’s development or attunement is ~~ through its experiences to those various phases of the same thing!
(09:41:27) (Bill) “Hence we find one may say that all sensuousness of an individual only comes through hearing, seeing, feeling, or experiencing as a whole. Another may say only that sense of inner self-preservation of self as an individual, toward the self-propagation of self as an individual, is the keynote of experiences of life; yet in this very ensample, or example as has been set, we find this disproves that anyone may be the whole ~~ but all are in part or portion of the
(09:42:18) (Bill) Dependent, then, upon the individual development of the individual as to what the response may be, whether as to self-preservation, self-propagation, or self-expression of sensuousness, in making self big in mind or in the various expressions of sensuous experience.” (900-359.)
(09:42:19) (ron) or portion of the
(09:42:35) (Bill) but all are in part or portion of the whole.
(09:43:19) (Bill) “Often when the activity of the First Cause comes into man’s experience in the present realm, he becomes confused in that he appears to have an influence in directing this force or power. Certainly! Much, though, in the manner as the reflection of light in a mirror.
(09:43:55) (Bill) . It is only reflected force of that which the First Cause takes thought in a finite existence or consciousness. As man applies himself, or uses that of which he becomes conscious in the correct or realm, he becomes conscious of that union of infinite and finite force.
(09:44:41) (Bill) In the fruits of the spirit does man become aware of the infinite penetrating, or interpenetrating, the activities of all forces of matter, or that which is a manifestation of the realm of the infinite in the finite. Thus may the finite become one.
(09:45:19) (Bill) “In reaching this understanding and state of consciousness it is well to remember that, through self, man will understand his Maker, when he understands his relation to his Maker ~~ each and every person getting that understanding have their individual niche, place, and work to perform.
(09:46:01) (Bill) The understanding for the individual entity, viewed from its own standpoint, with its knowledge, is obtained and made ready by itself, to be manifested through itself, toward its own development, and in that development, the creation of the world.” (3744-4.)
(09:47:40) (Rosie) creating own reality?
(09:48:21) (Bill) my guess what this is saying is we are each individuals and see each experience a little differently as to our individual experiences and as such should manifest these experiences in the best manner we know how, What are your thoughts?
(09:49:03) (MaryAnne) I also think it is saying each of us has our own particular niche to fulfill
(09:49:30) (Bill) yes MaryAnne the ones we've created for ourselves
(09:49:49) (Leon) I don'ty know what it's saying-
(09:50:34) (MaryAnne) Do you think we created it or if we had a niche to fulfill from the beginning?
(09:50:58) (ron) that niche beginning with our first thought
(09:51:25) (MaryAnne) I think I agree with you ron
(09:52:00) (Leon) Question: did I ask myself to start thinking?
(09:52:03) (mark) i think it's a little of both
(09:52:22) (ron) I think, therefore I exist
(09:52:27) (Bill) cause and effect nothing happens we don't first think about
(09:52:31) (Leon) Or was it forced upon ME.
(09:53:24) (Rosie) maybe WE decided to break up into a kabillion pieces to see what happened
(09:53:33) (mark) we are who we are from what we have experance?
(09:53:46) (ron) forced upon you...does that violate your Image of God?...forced against your will...imposed upon by who? God?
(09:54:43) (MaryAnne) I would think we are what we are according to our thinking patterns but are evolving back to where we started.
(09:55:06) (Leon) Apparrently , I didn't know better AND little has changed.
(09:55:51) (Cheryl) Involution, mA?
(09:55:52) (Leon) Thanks to EC, I'm thinking I may be getting somewhere??
(09:56:20) (Bill) As man applies himself, or uses that of which he becomes conscious in the correct or realm, he becomes conscious of that union of infinite and finite force.
(09:56:58) (Bill) In the fruits of the spirit does man become aware of the infinite penetrating, or interpenetrating, the activities of all forces of matter, or that which is a manifestation of the realm of the infinite in the finite. Thus may the finite become one.
(09:57:17) (Leon) But why didn't EC train others to continue where he left off like Elliga
(09:57:28) (ron) fruits of the spirit, infinite?...mind, finite?
(09:58:05) (Bill) another words as we apply ourselve in the highest manner we know we become one
(09:58:26) (MaryAnne) I don't think what Cayce did can be taught, Leon
(09:58:53) (Bill) Cayce gave us the material its now up to us to apply it in our lives
(09:59:19) (MaryAnne) Bill said it better Lo)
(09:59:29) (MaryAnne) :o)
(09:59:37) (Leon) Most people around me say the don't want to become ONE. You know, don't give me this one stuff
(10:00:14) (ernie) most people are nerrow minded
(10:00:24) (Cheryl) Why not? It's your destiny, Leon.
(10:00:25) (Leon) JC left his abilities with his deciples- Lasted for app.100 yrs
(10:00:31) (ernie) open their eyes
(10:00:34) (mark) there are others that can do it,...i think
(10:00:37) (MaryAnne) I think we may misunderstand what becoming one means.....I don't think we lose our individuality
(10:01:06) (Rosie) it'll be interesting to see how that works out, eh MA?
(10:01:24) (ron) of one heart, purpose...maryanne?
(10:01:33) (MaryAnne) Yes, it will Rosie....I am looking forward to knowing for sure
(10:01:49) (MaryAnne) Yes, ron, that is my particular take on it
(10:02:01) (Cheryl) Anybody read the disappearance of the Univers by Gary Renaud?
(10:02:03) (Bill) of one mind that is for the betterment of all mankind not as a robot letting some one or something do your thinking for you just the ability to do right thinking and application
(10:02:20) (Leon) Can't challenge DESTINY after all , it is what it is.
(10:02:24) (mark) have read that in god's mind that we never left,...every thing is as it was from get go
(10:02:49) (ernie) arete
(10:02:59) (MaryAnne) I am not a particular believer in destiny, Leon. I think we have freewill and can change things for better or worse.
(10:03:27) (Bill) destiny will be of our own creation is my take
(10:03:29) (MaryAnne) Cayce said there is a part of us that never left the Presence of God.
(10:04:09) (Bill) thats the superconsciousness we should listen to isn't it MaryAnne
(10:04:36) (MaryAnne) Yes, Bill, that is what I believe he said
(10:05:09) (Bill) Merri has the consciousnesses down pat :o)
(10:06:04) (Bill) “In reaching this understanding and state of consciousness it is well to remember that, through self, man will understand his Maker, when he understands his relation to his Maker ~~
(10:06:12) (Bill) each and every person getting that understanding have their individual niche, place, and work to perform. The understanding for the individual entity, viewed from its own standpoint, with its knowledge, is obtained and made ready by itself, to be manifested through itself, toward its own development, and in that development, the creation of the world.” (3744-4.)
(10:06:13) (Rosie) lthat is somewhat corroborated by the material in Jourey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, in wh ich it was told that we always leave a portion of our consciousness behind to help guide us...i.e...our whole soul never incarnates here
(10:07:50) (Leon) Sectioned in thirds?????
(10:08:20) (mark) 100000th
(10:08:38) (Bill) you soul is the sum total of us from the very begining we are just not in very good touch or communication with it
(10:08:47) (Rosie) we bring only the amount of energy we believe we will need to accomplish our tasks
(10:09:07) (ernie) arete
(10:09:31) (mark) what's arete mean?
(10:10:36) (merri) I'm finding that hard to imagine Rosie
(10:10:59) (merri) not having our whole soul incarnate here
(10:11:02) (ernie) areté. Translated as "virtue," the word actually means something closer to "being the best you can be,"
(10:11:07) (Bill) after reading this material though it covers what we've been studying for some time now i'd have to reread it very slowly a few time to obsorb how its trying to come across to me
(10:11:23) (Rosie) it is difficult to wrap your mind around it at first
(10:11:34) (Rosie) you should read the books...very interesting!
(10:11:37) (mark) ty ernie
(10:11:58) (merri) so where do we leave the rest of our soul
(10:12:21) (mark) it's still with god
(10:12:22) (Rosie) back home in the recliner :o)
(10:12:30) (mark) lol
(10:12:31) (merri) lol
(10:12:42) (Cheryl) Under our pillows at nite, where we go looking for it eah nite when we go to sleep. :-)
(10:13:18) (ron) thus, there is a distinction...the superconscious (spirit) transcending the soul (subconscious)
(10:13:44) (mark) old soul are you there,...why yes i'm every where?
(10:14:08) (Rosie) everything remains connected
(10:14:21) (merri) if we are to know "our selves" then it is only part of ourselves that we can acknowledge?
(10:14:25) (Rosie) *sings* Here, There, and EVerywhere
(10:15:00) (MaryAnne) I sometimes think of myself as a split personality and must integrate all my parts. lol
(10:15:20) (ernie) i think the opisit
(10:15:35) (Bill) next wk. we'll do states of consciousness that may bring some more light to the subject for us
(10:15:37) (Rosie) what we are experiencing is still being experienced by the whole
(10:15:39) (MaryAnne) How do you view it, ernie?
(10:15:45) (ernie) i think im going to slit up in many
(10:16:18) (MaryAnne) That is a take on things I have never heard before, ernie.
(10:17:03) (Rosie) our superconsciousness is in the recliner going, "Turn left...turn right...forward...*whack* with the 2x4"
(10:17:19) (ernie) i think that our soul is a manifastation of alot of stuff put together by us in the cosmos and we are born to do the do
(10:17:33) (Bill) we are split at the moment into 2 states of consciousness aren't we? and the goal is to meld them into one is my understanding
(10:17:41) (ernie) what ever we are here for see i think that its the real question
(10:17:51) (ron) the superconscious, or spirit is equivalent to the Sleeping Buddha in Eastern Teachings
(10:18:06) (Bill) 3 states of consciousness i should have posted
(10:18:39) (ron) and the spirit is made in His Image of Spirit, Mind and Will
(10:18:59) (mark) 3 while we are here on earth
(10:19:16) (ron) or asleep in its own Perfection
(10:20:28) (merri) not sure I agree about this leaving part of our soul behind tho
(10:20:37) (ron) and in 2nd chapter of Genesis, God breathed into the nostrils of Adam and he became a living soul
(10:20:54) (MaryAnne) I am not sure that we leave it behind, merri...just not aware of it for now
(10:21:10) (ron) thus, the distinction between Spirit and soul
(10:21:16) (merri) that would make more sense MaryAnne
(10:21:17) (Bill) as we go through this material i'm sure it will be self explanitory generally is but easy for us to get caught up in our individual understandings of the workings
(10:21:54) (MaryAnne) Yes, Bill, I do love the conversation of differing views, but am sure we will better understand as time goes by
(10:22:10) (Bill) Merri we don't leave part of anything behind we just fail to see the whole is my take
(10:22:30) (merri) that I can agree with
(10:28:47) (Bill) now when i get my head wrapped around this no time thing as to be able to explain it in an understandable manner i'll be well on the way to stardom
(10:29:08) (merri) lol Bill!
(10:29:32) (MaryAnne) That is a hard one, Bill
(10:31:02) (Bill) many things happen threw out our lives that appear unexplainable but we must only remember everything has it reasons and place them where they belong in our understanding for growth in some manner or another
(10:31:25) (merri) in our 3 dimensionel world Bill it is hard to think of "no time"
(10:31:58) (Bill) yes Merri especially for me in the relation of free will :o)
(10:32:35) (Bill) and the fact we create our own futures
(10:34:19) (Bill) i haven't had time for dinner yet so must be go would like you all to work this out for me , Love and Light to each of you !
(09:31:26) (Bill) : Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.)
(09:31:29) (ron) i heard that recently Mother Earth has joined the Weight Watchers Club
(09:31:36) (Bill) Amen
(09:31:37) (MaryAnne) lol
(09:31:45) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:47) (ron) amen
(09:31:50) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:31:59) (mark) Amen
(09:32:04) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:32:05) (BrightEyes) Amen
(09:32:13) (BrightEyes) Aperson
(09:32:25) (Rosie) lol
(09:32:46) (Bill) “As to how, where, when and what produces the entrance into a material manifestation of an entity, a soul:
(09:33:06) (Bill) “In the beginning, was that which set in motion that which is seen in manifested form, with the laws governing same. The inability of destroying matter, the ability of each force, each source of power or contact as it meets in its various forms, produces that which is a manifestation in a particular sphere.
(09:33:40) (Bill) This may be seen in those elements used in the various manifested ways of preparing for man; in many ways those things bespeak of the laws that govern man’s relationship to the First Cause, or God.
(09:34:07) (Bill) “Then, this is the principle: Like begets like. Those things that are positive and negative forces combine to form in a different source, or different manifestation, the combinations, of which each element, each first principle manifested, has gained from its associations in its activities that which has been brought to bear by self or that about it to produce that manifestation.
(09:34:52) (Bill) “Hence man, the crowning of all manifestation in a material world ~~ a causation world ~~ finds self as the cause and product of that he (man), with those abilities given, has been able to produce, or demonstrate, or manifest, from that he (the soul) has gained, does gain, in the transition, the change, the going toward that (and being of that) from which he came.
(09:35:51) (Bill) “Periods, times, places: That which is builded each in its place, each in its time. “This is shown to man in the elemental world about him. Man’s consciousness of that about him is gained through that (which) he, man, does about knowledge of that he is, as in relation to that from which he came and towards which he is going.
(09:36:39) (Bill) “Hence in man’s analysis and understanding of himself it is as well to know whence he came as to know whither he is going.” (5753-1.)
(09:37:06) (Bill) “That not only one element but every element in a universal force has its effect upon the various phenomena of life in the action of an individual entity in its relationship to the whole. Hence we find the prerogative: that one factor of the inner force or spark of the entity’s association, or the entity’s relative force from the first or from the universal cause of creative energy, has its activity throughout.
(09:37:44) (Bill) See? This rather deep, but well worth studying, well worth understanding, that the application of same may be made as respecting any phenomena of life.” (900-359.)
(09:38:23) (Bill) This is to say that, regardless of the seeming complexity of existence in this plane, the original impulse which gave the soul its being will manifest and dominate throughout any experience if given the opportunity of expression.
(09:39:06) (Bill) “(900-359) In the greater or lesser degree this same universal force as is applied in this sense is the same way and manner in which ideas or ideals of an individual respond to the various conditions as may be presented to self through the various forms of that called the experiences or the phenomena of life.
(09:39:40) (Bill) Man from the purely material sense only becomes conscious through the sensuousness or through the ability of attunement of the sensuousness of the physical body, or through the five senses.
(09:40:13) (Bill) “Yet ever is that sixth, seventh or eighth sense of the entity alert to the various responses as received by the inner self through the various experiences of life. Hence we find in many various phases of same these ~~ taken as an oneness ~~ become as it were branches or lines of study sought out by individuals and classified as the keynote;
(09:40:51) (Bill) yet no one is superior to the other in its influence upon the individual life, save as to what the individual’s development or attunement is ~~ through its experiences to those various phases of the same thing!
(09:41:27) (Bill) “Hence we find one may say that all sensuousness of an individual only comes through hearing, seeing, feeling, or experiencing as a whole. Another may say only that sense of inner self-preservation of self as an individual, toward the self-propagation of self as an individual, is the keynote of experiences of life; yet in this very ensample, or example as has been set, we find this disproves that anyone may be the whole ~~ but all are in part or portion of the
(09:42:18) (Bill) Dependent, then, upon the individual development of the individual as to what the response may be, whether as to self-preservation, self-propagation, or self-expression of sensuousness, in making self big in mind or in the various expressions of sensuous experience.” (900-359.)
(09:42:19) (ron) or portion of the
(09:42:35) (Bill) but all are in part or portion of the whole.
(09:43:19) (Bill) “Often when the activity of the First Cause comes into man’s experience in the present realm, he becomes confused in that he appears to have an influence in directing this force or power. Certainly! Much, though, in the manner as the reflection of light in a mirror.
(09:43:55) (Bill) . It is only reflected force of that which the First Cause takes thought in a finite existence or consciousness. As man applies himself, or uses that of which he becomes conscious in the correct or realm, he becomes conscious of that union of infinite and finite force.
(09:44:41) (Bill) In the fruits of the spirit does man become aware of the infinite penetrating, or interpenetrating, the activities of all forces of matter, or that which is a manifestation of the realm of the infinite in the finite. Thus may the finite become one.
(09:45:19) (Bill) “In reaching this understanding and state of consciousness it is well to remember that, through self, man will understand his Maker, when he understands his relation to his Maker ~~ each and every person getting that understanding have their individual niche, place, and work to perform.
(09:46:01) (Bill) The understanding for the individual entity, viewed from its own standpoint, with its knowledge, is obtained and made ready by itself, to be manifested through itself, toward its own development, and in that development, the creation of the world.” (3744-4.)
(09:47:40) (Rosie) creating own reality?
(09:48:21) (Bill) my guess what this is saying is we are each individuals and see each experience a little differently as to our individual experiences and as such should manifest these experiences in the best manner we know how, What are your thoughts?
(09:49:03) (MaryAnne) I also think it is saying each of us has our own particular niche to fulfill
(09:49:30) (Bill) yes MaryAnne the ones we've created for ourselves
(09:49:49) (Leon) I don'ty know what it's saying-
(09:50:34) (MaryAnne) Do you think we created it or if we had a niche to fulfill from the beginning?
(09:50:58) (ron) that niche beginning with our first thought
(09:51:25) (MaryAnne) I think I agree with you ron
(09:52:00) (Leon) Question: did I ask myself to start thinking?
(09:52:03) (mark) i think it's a little of both
(09:52:22) (ron) I think, therefore I exist
(09:52:27) (Bill) cause and effect nothing happens we don't first think about
(09:52:31) (Leon) Or was it forced upon ME.
(09:53:24) (Rosie) maybe WE decided to break up into a kabillion pieces to see what happened
(09:53:33) (mark) we are who we are from what we have experance?
(09:53:46) (ron) forced upon you...does that violate your Image of God?...forced against your will...imposed upon by who? God?
(09:54:43) (MaryAnne) I would think we are what we are according to our thinking patterns but are evolving back to where we started.
(09:55:06) (Leon) Apparrently , I didn't know better AND little has changed.
(09:55:51) (Cheryl) Involution, mA?
(09:55:52) (Leon) Thanks to EC, I'm thinking I may be getting somewhere??
(09:56:20) (Bill) As man applies himself, or uses that of which he becomes conscious in the correct or realm, he becomes conscious of that union of infinite and finite force.
(09:56:58) (Bill) In the fruits of the spirit does man become aware of the infinite penetrating, or interpenetrating, the activities of all forces of matter, or that which is a manifestation of the realm of the infinite in the finite. Thus may the finite become one.
(09:57:17) (Leon) But why didn't EC train others to continue where he left off like Elliga
(09:57:28) (ron) fruits of the spirit, infinite?...mind, finite?
(09:58:05) (Bill) another words as we apply ourselve in the highest manner we know we become one
(09:58:26) (MaryAnne) I don't think what Cayce did can be taught, Leon
(09:58:53) (Bill) Cayce gave us the material its now up to us to apply it in our lives
(09:59:19) (MaryAnne) Bill said it better Lo)
(09:59:29) (MaryAnne) :o)
(09:59:37) (Leon) Most people around me say the don't want to become ONE. You know, don't give me this one stuff
(10:00:14) (ernie) most people are nerrow minded
(10:00:24) (Cheryl) Why not? It's your destiny, Leon.
(10:00:25) (Leon) JC left his abilities with his deciples- Lasted for app.100 yrs
(10:00:31) (ernie) open their eyes
(10:00:34) (mark) there are others that can do it,...i think
(10:00:37) (MaryAnne) I think we may misunderstand what becoming one means.....I don't think we lose our individuality
(10:01:06) (Rosie) it'll be interesting to see how that works out, eh MA?
(10:01:24) (ron) of one heart, purpose...maryanne?
(10:01:33) (MaryAnne) Yes, it will Rosie....I am looking forward to knowing for sure
(10:01:49) (MaryAnne) Yes, ron, that is my particular take on it
(10:02:01) (Cheryl) Anybody read the disappearance of the Univers by Gary Renaud?
(10:02:03) (Bill) of one mind that is for the betterment of all mankind not as a robot letting some one or something do your thinking for you just the ability to do right thinking and application
(10:02:20) (Leon) Can't challenge DESTINY after all , it is what it is.
(10:02:24) (mark) have read that in god's mind that we never left,...every thing is as it was from get go
(10:02:49) (ernie) arete
(10:02:59) (MaryAnne) I am not a particular believer in destiny, Leon. I think we have freewill and can change things for better or worse.
(10:03:27) (Bill) destiny will be of our own creation is my take
(10:03:29) (MaryAnne) Cayce said there is a part of us that never left the Presence of God.
(10:04:09) (Bill) thats the superconsciousness we should listen to isn't it MaryAnne
(10:04:36) (MaryAnne) Yes, Bill, that is what I believe he said
(10:05:09) (Bill) Merri has the consciousnesses down pat :o)
(10:06:04) (Bill) “In reaching this understanding and state of consciousness it is well to remember that, through self, man will understand his Maker, when he understands his relation to his Maker ~~
(10:06:12) (Bill) each and every person getting that understanding have their individual niche, place, and work to perform. The understanding for the individual entity, viewed from its own standpoint, with its knowledge, is obtained and made ready by itself, to be manifested through itself, toward its own development, and in that development, the creation of the world.” (3744-4.)
(10:06:13) (Rosie) lthat is somewhat corroborated by the material in Jourey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, in wh ich it was told that we always leave a portion of our consciousness behind to help guide us...i.e...our whole soul never incarnates here
(10:07:50) (Leon) Sectioned in thirds?????
(10:08:20) (mark) 100000th
(10:08:38) (Bill) you soul is the sum total of us from the very begining we are just not in very good touch or communication with it
(10:08:47) (Rosie) we bring only the amount of energy we believe we will need to accomplish our tasks
(10:09:07) (ernie) arete
(10:09:31) (mark) what's arete mean?
(10:10:36) (merri) I'm finding that hard to imagine Rosie
(10:10:59) (merri) not having our whole soul incarnate here
(10:11:02) (ernie) areté. Translated as "virtue," the word actually means something closer to "being the best you can be,"
(10:11:07) (Bill) after reading this material though it covers what we've been studying for some time now i'd have to reread it very slowly a few time to obsorb how its trying to come across to me
(10:11:23) (Rosie) it is difficult to wrap your mind around it at first
(10:11:34) (Rosie) you should read the books...very interesting!
(10:11:37) (mark) ty ernie
(10:11:58) (merri) so where do we leave the rest of our soul
(10:12:21) (mark) it's still with god
(10:12:22) (Rosie) back home in the recliner :o)
(10:12:30) (mark) lol
(10:12:31) (merri) lol
(10:12:42) (Cheryl) Under our pillows at nite, where we go looking for it eah nite when we go to sleep. :-)
(10:13:18) (ron) thus, there is a distinction...the superconscious (spirit) transcending the soul (subconscious)
(10:13:44) (mark) old soul are you there,...why yes i'm every where?
(10:14:08) (Rosie) everything remains connected
(10:14:21) (merri) if we are to know "our selves" then it is only part of ourselves that we can acknowledge?
(10:14:25) (Rosie) *sings* Here, There, and EVerywhere
(10:15:00) (MaryAnne) I sometimes think of myself as a split personality and must integrate all my parts. lol
(10:15:20) (ernie) i think the opisit
(10:15:35) (Bill) next wk. we'll do states of consciousness that may bring some more light to the subject for us
(10:15:37) (Rosie) what we are experiencing is still being experienced by the whole
(10:15:39) (MaryAnne) How do you view it, ernie?
(10:15:45) (ernie) i think im going to slit up in many
(10:16:18) (MaryAnne) That is a take on things I have never heard before, ernie.
(10:17:03) (Rosie) our superconsciousness is in the recliner going, "Turn left...turn right...forward...*whack* with the 2x4"
(10:17:19) (ernie) i think that our soul is a manifastation of alot of stuff put together by us in the cosmos and we are born to do the do
(10:17:33) (Bill) we are split at the moment into 2 states of consciousness aren't we? and the goal is to meld them into one is my understanding
(10:17:41) (ernie) what ever we are here for see i think that its the real question
(10:17:51) (ron) the superconscious, or spirit is equivalent to the Sleeping Buddha in Eastern Teachings
(10:18:06) (Bill) 3 states of consciousness i should have posted
(10:18:39) (ron) and the spirit is made in His Image of Spirit, Mind and Will
(10:18:59) (mark) 3 while we are here on earth
(10:19:16) (ron) or asleep in its own Perfection
(10:20:28) (merri) not sure I agree about this leaving part of our soul behind tho
(10:20:37) (ron) and in 2nd chapter of Genesis, God breathed into the nostrils of Adam and he became a living soul
(10:20:54) (MaryAnne) I am not sure that we leave it behind, merri...just not aware of it for now
(10:21:10) (ron) thus, the distinction between Spirit and soul
(10:21:16) (merri) that would make more sense MaryAnne
(10:21:17) (Bill) as we go through this material i'm sure it will be self explanitory generally is but easy for us to get caught up in our individual understandings of the workings
(10:21:54) (MaryAnne) Yes, Bill, I do love the conversation of differing views, but am sure we will better understand as time goes by
(10:22:10) (Bill) Merri we don't leave part of anything behind we just fail to see the whole is my take
(10:22:30) (merri) that I can agree with
(10:28:47) (Bill) now when i get my head wrapped around this no time thing as to be able to explain it in an understandable manner i'll be well on the way to stardom
(10:29:08) (merri) lol Bill!
(10:29:32) (MaryAnne) That is a hard one, Bill
(10:31:02) (Bill) many things happen threw out our lives that appear unexplainable but we must only remember everything has it reasons and place them where they belong in our understanding for growth in some manner or another
(10:31:25) (merri) in our 3 dimensionel world Bill it is hard to think of "no time"
(10:31:58) (Bill) yes Merri especially for me in the relation of free will :o)
(10:32:35) (Bill) and the fact we create our own futures
(10:34:19) (Bill) i haven't had time for dinner yet so must be go would like you all to work this out for me , Love and Light to each of you !
