Post by WalksInSpirit on Jun 5, 2006 22:00:07 GMT -5
Search For God - Book Two Chat: 06-05-06
"Destiny Of The Soul"
(09:29:11) (Bill) well guess we should get on with The Destiny of the Soul so we are prepared for the future
(09:29:52) (Bill) Lord, let me ~~ my mind, my body, my soul ~~ be at-one with Thee that I ~~ through Thy promises in Him, Thy Son ~~ may know Thee more and more. (262-88.) Amen
(09:29:58) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:07) (Gordito-mhmn) May it be as so.
(09:30:10) (merri) Amen
(09:30:13) (Blu) Amen
(09:30:15) (Lory) Amen
(09:31:01) (Bill) Introduction: Man in his natural state is soul. In the beginning all souls were created in the image of the Creator. Thus the first creation was spiritual.
(09:31:35) (Bill) The development of our souls in a material world is as a garment that is made up of the warp and woof of materials that we have gathered through our experiences in every plane of consciousness. In our sojourns in the earth, we wear many kinds of garments ~~ working clothes, prison garbs, and wedding gowns.
(09:32:35) (Bill) Just so we build into our souls, through our mind directed by our will, that which is Godlike and uplifting, or selfish and degrading. That which we build within our soul gives it the opportunity for occupying a position of honor or dishonor.
(09:33:05) (Bill) . Through the will, however, we may make those things that are of dishonor as stepping stones to positions of honor. This, too, makes its mark on the soul. Our will is a Divine attribute; how we use it determines our destiny.
(09:33:29) (Bill) . Each soul is an offspring of Creative Force, of GOD, and is innately the result of the manner in which it has manifested the prerogative of WILL.
(09:33:56) (Bill) Let us strive to understand that life in its essence is spiritual force, and is continuous. The point of expression may be in matter, as here on earth, or in any of the many different planes of consciousness, but mind is the universal moving force which acts and builds through all planes, and gradually brings an awareness of our own individuality in the Creative Force we worship as GOD.
(09:34:50) (Bill) CREATION OF SOUL: The soul is of God. It had its beginning in God and its ending is only in Him. To name the name of God is to recognize that we are a part of the Whole, and we know, because we are of the Whole. Our soul, as a part of Creative Force, came into being, and was given breath, by the will of the Father, that it might be a companion with Him in His activity.
(09:35:28) (Bill) . Our soul is everlasting, containing eternal creative power, and through expressions of this power we may come to know ourselves to be one with Him. Then the destiny of the soul, as of all creation, is to become one with the Creator.
(09:36:23) (Bill) The entity is the manifestation of soul in spiritual, mental, and physical form. Though our soul may have wandered far afield, though it may make its bed in hell, though it may take the wings of the morning and fly to the utmost parts of the universe, eventually it must wend its way back to the source from whence it came, to its God, its Maker. (See Ps. 139:8.9.)
(09:37:09) (Bill) Our soul never dies. How can Spirit die? How can God die? How can God destroy Himself? Though our soul may choose to take up body after body, though it may seek experience in this or that sphere or consciousness, it is ever seeking the way back from whence it came.
(09:38:11) (Bill) . What is the origin of the soul? What is the origin of eternity? Eternity is from everlasting to everlasting. “When the morning stars sang together” (Job 38:7.) ~~ we were there. When the heavens fold up and time will be no more, behold ~~ we will be there. Now, as in the beginning, we are sons of God, and our destiny is to be kings and priests unto Him.
(09:38:54) (Bill) THE SOUL’S ASSOCIATION WITH THE MIND AND THE BODY: The soul body is the image of the Creator, a companion in spirit with the Creative Force. It is too wonderful to describe. It, as God, must be experienced to be known.
(09:39:30) (Bill) . Our physical body is simply a temporary house for our soul. Opportunities are presented to us through physical experiences for using and directing the soul powers lent to us by God. The way we use these powers in relation with others shows the concept or degree of awareness of our attunement with God.
(09:40:22) (Bill) Through sojourns in the earth our soul, through will, brings upon itself many experiences that may result in confusion, turmoil and strife, for a better understanding of the purposes of life. For example, if we consider that slights, slurs, and unkind words, are directed against us and we remain untouched within and can rise above the selfish desire to strike back,
(09:41:04) (Bill) , then we can understand what Jesus taught as he urged us to seek attunement with the Father. Jesus overcame in the way and knew that we, too, could rise above being hurt, or tempted, or mistreated. With Him as the pattern there is within us no desire to strike back. Each time we resent, we add to these confusing urges that become stumbling blocks for us.
(09:41:44) (Bill) Thus we may use those things that have hindered, that would cause the quickness of speech, the anger at being thwarted, as stepping stones to a more perfect understanding and to a realization of being in accord with His Way.
(09:42:21) (Bill) As we give our selves, our love, our patience, and our kindness, however hard it may be, to help others, we learn His Way and may depend upon His help to sustain us. If we let the beauty of His life guide us, then those things that beset as a temptation, those things that make us afraid, may be cast upon Him, who has promised to bear our burdens with us.
(09:43:08) (Bill) It is well that we understand that our soul takes on physical bodies as means through which practical applications can be made of tenets that make for the development of our soul. Such opportunities arise in our dealings with our fellowman.
(09:43:42) (Bill) Our entrance into the earth plane at any time is for the purpose that another lesson may be gained, another opportunity for soul expression may be had. Our knowledge of a law is not sufficient within itself, but when knowledge is made active and practical, it then becomes a moving force in our lives.
(09:44:15) (Bill) . Let us seek to make our bodies channels through which Creative Energy may become an active force, whereby we may gradually become aware of our own identity in the Creator.
(09:44:45) (Bill) We may become aware of our soul through commonplace, everyday observance of spiritual laws within our understanding, by putting into daily application the laws of love and service to others. We must measure up to that which we hold as the ideal in our relationships with our fellowman, for we can estimate our concept of God by examining our attitude toward others.
(09:46:20) (Bill) i think if we can obsorb this much for one evening and put it into practice we'll be doing good so thats the material for this evening
(09:46:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Agreed
(09:47:03) (Lory) Bill, what a wonderful lesson. And in spite of my trying to be funny, this is really great stuff.
(09:47:09) (Bill) i'm sure we all seen a few remarks here we could relate to that effects our daily lives
(09:49:46) (Bill) For example, if we consider that slights, slurs, and unkind words, are directed against us and we remain untouched within and can rise above the selfish desire to strike back, i'm sure this is one we've all tripped over a few times :o)
(09:50:24) (Lory) Never take anything personally, Bill.
(09:50:33) (Gordito-mhmn) anyone can love those who love thgem back.
(09:50:54) (Bill) yes Gordito thats a given :o)
(09:51:38) (Bill) those who tend to step on our toes are another matter
(09:51:45) (Gordito-mhmn) Remember the Beatitudes
(09:51:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(09:52:16) (merri) what's the difference Bill
(09:52:37) (Gordito-mhmn) More in lovimg those who hate your guts.
(09:52:55) (KingShao) Amen
(09:52:59) (Gordito-mhmn) Takes a more spiritually rounded soul.
(09:53:03) (Lory) Why should anyone hate anothers guts, Gordy?
(09:53:11) (Gordito-mhmn) Happens.
(09:53:19) (KingShao) YUes
(09:53:39) (Bill) Each time we resent, we add to these confusing urges that become stumbling blocks for us.
(09:53:44) (Gordito-mhmn) Those are the ones who need the most love.
(09:53:49) (KingShao) Yes
(09:53:52) (Lory) Hate is self defeating.
(09:53:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(09:54:20) (MaryAnne) It is often hard to find a way to not be a doormat without being mean spirited
(09:54:27) (Gordito-mhmn) Those who condone war, don't truly love.
(09:54:28) (merri) but what about those who "step on our toes"?
(09:54:37) (MaryAnne) Hate destroys the vessel in which it is stored.
(09:54:48) (KingShao) turn the other cheek
(09:54:52) (Gordito-mhmn) Neither do those whom condone wrongfullness for any reason.
(09:55:09) (Bill) except them for who they are Merri and don't allow them to lower you to their standards
(09:55:18) (Gordito-mhmn) One who loves cannot condone anything other thyen love.
(09:55:27) (KingShao) I Agree
(09:55:37) (Gordito-mhmn) Heor she may have to accept it as a way of liufe for others.
(09:55:50) (Bill) by hateing another we are also feeding their hatered
(09:55:54) (Gordito-mhmn) But never accepting that way of life as acceptable.
(09:55:55) (BlackWolf) Clobber them while having love in your heart, does not seem to work :o)
(09:56:21) (WalksInSpirit) What about those who hang onto percieved wrongs? I Cor. says Love does not do that.
(09:56:25) (MaryAnne) No it doesn't BW :o)
(09:56:28) (Bill) well BW some times you have to clobber to get their attention :o)
(09:56:56) (MaryAnne) Oh, thank you Bill, now I feel better.
(09:57:00) (Gordito-mhmn) Love those who wrong you.
(09:57:06) (KingShao) The perfect man
(09:57:13) (Bill) only at a very last resort MaryAnne :o)
(09:57:16) (Gordito-mhmn) You don't have to accept their actions.
(09:57:20) (Lory) Do you use a 2 x 4, Bill?
(09:57:23) (Gordito-mhmn) But you must love them.
(09:57:37) (Gordito-mhmn) Jesus was hated for his views by many.
(09:57:48) (WalksInSpirit) I Cor. says Love keeps no record of wrongs, and it is patient, forgiving, and long suffering.
(09:58:06) (KingShao) right on
(09:58:06) (Gordito-mhmn) God Keeps record.
(09:58:11) (Gordito-mhmn) That is enough.
(09:58:24) (WalksInSpirit) Then, God cannot be Love.
(09:58:25) (Gordito-mhmn) Must you condone wrong doing? No!!!
(09:58:34) (Bill) well Lory i very seldom scold anyone verbally or any other way i just ignor and and at times have told them i'm sorry they feel or act that way
(09:58:52) (Gordito-mhmn) When you blot away all trangresssions, so does God.
(09:59:15) (MaryAnne) Cayce said to act as if it had never been, I find that hard to do at times.
(09:59:15) (WalksInSpirit) God isn't dependant on our decisions.
(09:59:27) (Gordito-mhmn) Sure He IUs.
(09:59:44) (Gordito-mhmn) ]That varies what comes into your life by the Hand of God.
(09:59:50) (Lory) I find it interesting tho, Bill, to try and find out their motivation. Often when they manifest their thoughts into words, they realize the error.
(10:00:13) (Gordito-mhmn) Your decisions today affects your future tomorrow.
(10:00:24) (Gordito-mhmn) God takes alol things into account.
(10:00:26) (Lory) And then one can become a channel for blessings.
(10:00:36) (WalksInSpirit) If He is, then that shoots the purpose of following His Will in the head, because He would not have one. It would only be our will.
(10:00:37) (Bill) being in a physical work full of free wills there are unexpected acts to deal with at times
(10:00:42) (Gordito-mhmn) Once self has been lost.
(10:00:48) (KingShao) free will he wants us to come to the right decision on our own
(10:00:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Once self has been conquered.
(10:01:08) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Bill
(10:01:09) (Bill) yes King
(10:01:29) (Gordito-mhmn) But God Moves people and events together.
(10:01:35) (KingShao) He is perfect and does no wrong
(10:01:48) (Lory) Thats why it is important not to take anything personally, Bill. :-)
(10:01:56) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes.
(10:01:57) (WalksInSpirit) Whoa Hoss... a few discussions ago, it was said that we have no free will.
(10:02:03) (Gordito-mhmn) Keep it universal.
(10:02:08) (Bill) easier said than done often Lory
(10:02:09) (KingShao) Yes
(10:02:33) (Gordito-mhmn) You have limited free will.
(10:02:51) (Gordito-mhmn) You are able to ,make choices for yourself.
(10:03:06) (KingShao) a paradox
(10:03:13) (Gordito-mhmn) But you cannot wiill yourself free from a material death.
(10:03:20) (Gordito-mhmn) Only His Will can do that.
(10:04:09) (Gordito-mhmn) Few want to suffer death in the physical.
(10:04:21) (Gordito-mhmn) But all must pay the price.
(10:04:35) (MaryAnne) Some of us consider death an obstacle to our growth, Gordito
(10:04:40) (WalksInSpirit) Jesus did. And He said we can do greater things than He did. One case of that was when Smith Wigglesworth brought a man back from the dead three days after he had died in London, England in the early 1940's. It's documented.
(10:04:45) (Lory) No maybe about it, I'm here. :-)
(10:04:47) (Gordito-mhmn) You either give self willingl;y or he snathes you by way of death in the flesh.
(10:04:58) (MaryAnne) I meant to say, some of us do NOT consider death an obstacle
(10:04:59) (Gordito-mhmn) Either way its always going to be His ay.'
(10:05:27) (Gordito-mhmn) It isw a lowley thging that comes to a Child of God.,
(10:05:33) (Gordito-mhmn) Death of the flesh.
(10:05:36) (Lory) I believe death is not an obstacle. It is an opportunity.....
(10:05:54) (MaryAnne) I believe that too, Lory
(10:05:54) (Gordito-mhmn) Of course.
(10:06:12) (Gordito-mhmn) But Jesus provided an even Greater Opportunity.
(10:06:32) (Gordito-mhmn) To Overcome even a physical death.
(10:06:40) (KingShao) Yes
(10:06:41) (Lory) That is true, Gordy, but my free will has chosen to learn the hard way maybe.
(10:06:47) (Bill) life is an opportunity passing over is a rest while still learning till the next round of hard core lessons
(10:07:07) (Gordito-mhmn) To Be Rightfully Called A Child of God, having Acceped Your Inheiritance; not such a bad thing.
(10:07:17) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Lory
(10:07:26) (KingShao) right here right now
(10:08:22) (Bill) by applying the lesson we get here the road is much easier to tread
(10:08:29) (KingShao) levels of developement ,cayce said none could be skipped
(10:08:41) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(10:08:43) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(10:08:58) (Lory) Yes, Bill. These are wonderful lessons. And thank you again for presenting them.
(10:09:05) (MaryAnne) I must go....has been very interesting lesson and discussion, thanks Bill...
(10:09:12) (Gordito-mhmn) It's all about prayter and application, developing "That Bond".
(10:09:24) (KingShao) Yes
(10:09:56) (KingShao) The prayer of a righteous man availith much
(10:10:19) (Gordito-mhmn) Having Faith you are Communing with God; having faith you are Receiving that Which Is Of Him to apply in your life.
(10:10:43) (Lory) A question of application? Do we not all apply these lessons in our own way? Surely as long as we try it is acceptable to Him?
(10:11:03) (Gordito-mhmn) It is the try that is counted.
(10:11:07) (WalksInSpirit) It sure is, Grandmother. Cayce said the try counts.
(10:11:12) (Gordito-mhmn) Best to try.
(10:11:16) (Bill) if one prays it is my opinion you should then let it go and except it as being so
(10:11:35) (merri) only the righteous can pray?
(10:12:00) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes and accept thast what comes through to apply, in regards to your spiritual growthy and development is from Him.
(10:12:01) (Bill) well Merri if you wish i'll allow you to pray as well :o)
(10:12:09) (Lory) Surely everyone can pray. And He surely must hear us all.
(10:12:10) (merri) lol
(10:12:20) (merri) TY Bill
(10:12:32) (KingShao) God ignores the prayer of the man who flouts the law
(10:12:49) (merri) you know that for a fact?
(10:12:59) (WalksInSpirit) Naw, Merri. If that is so, then churches full of people will be splitting Hell wide open, because no one heard their prayer to save their souls back when they were un-righteous. LOL
(10:13:03) (Gordito-mhmn) Best to pray In Spirit, with self laid aside, having faith that the Words that come out of your mouth in prayer are the Correct Ones.
(10:13:03) (KingShao) from His Word
(10:13:05) (Lory) No soul is lost King. He loves us all.
(10:13:14) (KingShao) book of Proverbs
(10:13:27) (Bill) all prayers are answered but in many cases the answers are not excepted as what the prayer was wishing for
(10:13:35) (Gordito-mhmn) All prayer is Heard, often the request5 is denied.
(10:13:36) (merri) I don't believe God ignores any prayer
(10:13:46) (KingShao) that would contradict
(10:14:05) (Lory) He doesn't ignore mine either, merri.
(10:14:08) (Gordito-mhmn) Not all is heard directly.
(10:14:24) (merri) go on!
(10:14:24) (Gordito-mhmn) God is cushioned from those who are not of Like Mind.
(10:14:34) (merri) oh brother!
(10:14:40) (Gordito-mhmn) Hence Spirit Guides and such.
(10:14:45) (Gordito-mhmn) Go betwweens.
(10:14:49) (merri) class distinction even in heaven!
(10:14:53) (Lory) God sends His angels to me frequently. And I am so blessed. Thank you God.
(10:15:08) (Gordito-mhmn) The vibration is not condusive to him.
(10:15:12) (KingShao) God says my ways are not your ways neither are my thoughts your thoughts
(10:15:18) (Gordito-mhmn) Hence banishment from Heaven.
(10:15:30) (Gordito-mhmn) It is not because of "good vibes"
(10:15:44) (WalksInSpirit) Betty J. Eady saw prayers going to God during her near death experience. She described them as little golden comet-like things that sped directly to the Throne of God. And there were countless billions of them passing by her.
(10:16:01) (Blu) the squeaky wheel gets the grease merri
(10:16:02) (Gordito-mhmn) That is why few have seen the Face of God.
(10:16:26) (Blu) LOL, if you saw the face of God you would burn to a cinder instantly
(10:16:28) (Gordito-mhmn) That is why it is best to pray in His Spirit As One.
(10:16:44) (Lory) I should think one must be perfect to see the Face of God, Gordy.....
(10:16:52) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Lory.
(10:17:02) (Gordito-mhmn) One must Be Perfected, even as He.
(10:17:37) (Blu) then again, if you do not see God in your brother then you have toatally missed the mark
(10:18:01) (Gordito-mhmn) Well, can't get to God if you don't love ervryone.
(10:18:12) (Gordito-mhmn) Heaven.
(10:18:32) (Lory) Indeed, Blu. The ever blessed at-one-ment!
(10:19:24) (Lory) I need to go....Thanks again, Bill. Goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:19:56) (Gordito-mhmn) By sin came death; by the shedding od blood came Freedom.....Freedom from a consciousness into a Greater Consciousness. Cayce 276-7
(10:22:00) (Gordito-mhmn) "When you Know the Truth, the Truth shall indeed set you Free. From what? That of self. Cayce 1538-1
(10:25:05) (Bill) . When the heavens fold up and time will be no more, behold ~~ we will be there. Now, as in the beginning, we are sons of God, and our destiny is to be kings and priests unto Him.
(10:58:46) (merri) dreamtime for me...TY for tonights lesson Bill....Blessings All
(10:59:56) (Bill) Love and Light to each of you thank you for being!
(09:29:52) (Bill) Lord, let me ~~ my mind, my body, my soul ~~ be at-one with Thee that I ~~ through Thy promises in Him, Thy Son ~~ may know Thee more and more. (262-88.) Amen
(09:29:58) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:07) (Gordito-mhmn) May it be as so.
(09:30:10) (merri) Amen
(09:30:13) (Blu) Amen
(09:30:15) (Lory) Amen
(09:31:01) (Bill) Introduction: Man in his natural state is soul. In the beginning all souls were created in the image of the Creator. Thus the first creation was spiritual.
(09:31:35) (Bill) The development of our souls in a material world is as a garment that is made up of the warp and woof of materials that we have gathered through our experiences in every plane of consciousness. In our sojourns in the earth, we wear many kinds of garments ~~ working clothes, prison garbs, and wedding gowns.
(09:32:35) (Bill) Just so we build into our souls, through our mind directed by our will, that which is Godlike and uplifting, or selfish and degrading. That which we build within our soul gives it the opportunity for occupying a position of honor or dishonor.
(09:33:05) (Bill) . Through the will, however, we may make those things that are of dishonor as stepping stones to positions of honor. This, too, makes its mark on the soul. Our will is a Divine attribute; how we use it determines our destiny.
(09:33:29) (Bill) . Each soul is an offspring of Creative Force, of GOD, and is innately the result of the manner in which it has manifested the prerogative of WILL.
(09:33:56) (Bill) Let us strive to understand that life in its essence is spiritual force, and is continuous. The point of expression may be in matter, as here on earth, or in any of the many different planes of consciousness, but mind is the universal moving force which acts and builds through all planes, and gradually brings an awareness of our own individuality in the Creative Force we worship as GOD.
(09:34:50) (Bill) CREATION OF SOUL: The soul is of God. It had its beginning in God and its ending is only in Him. To name the name of God is to recognize that we are a part of the Whole, and we know, because we are of the Whole. Our soul, as a part of Creative Force, came into being, and was given breath, by the will of the Father, that it might be a companion with Him in His activity.
(09:35:28) (Bill) . Our soul is everlasting, containing eternal creative power, and through expressions of this power we may come to know ourselves to be one with Him. Then the destiny of the soul, as of all creation, is to become one with the Creator.
(09:36:23) (Bill) The entity is the manifestation of soul in spiritual, mental, and physical form. Though our soul may have wandered far afield, though it may make its bed in hell, though it may take the wings of the morning and fly to the utmost parts of the universe, eventually it must wend its way back to the source from whence it came, to its God, its Maker. (See Ps. 139:8.9.)
(09:37:09) (Bill) Our soul never dies. How can Spirit die? How can God die? How can God destroy Himself? Though our soul may choose to take up body after body, though it may seek experience in this or that sphere or consciousness, it is ever seeking the way back from whence it came.
(09:38:11) (Bill) . What is the origin of the soul? What is the origin of eternity? Eternity is from everlasting to everlasting. “When the morning stars sang together” (Job 38:7.) ~~ we were there. When the heavens fold up and time will be no more, behold ~~ we will be there. Now, as in the beginning, we are sons of God, and our destiny is to be kings and priests unto Him.
(09:38:54) (Bill) THE SOUL’S ASSOCIATION WITH THE MIND AND THE BODY: The soul body is the image of the Creator, a companion in spirit with the Creative Force. It is too wonderful to describe. It, as God, must be experienced to be known.
(09:39:30) (Bill) . Our physical body is simply a temporary house for our soul. Opportunities are presented to us through physical experiences for using and directing the soul powers lent to us by God. The way we use these powers in relation with others shows the concept or degree of awareness of our attunement with God.
(09:40:22) (Bill) Through sojourns in the earth our soul, through will, brings upon itself many experiences that may result in confusion, turmoil and strife, for a better understanding of the purposes of life. For example, if we consider that slights, slurs, and unkind words, are directed against us and we remain untouched within and can rise above the selfish desire to strike back,
(09:41:04) (Bill) , then we can understand what Jesus taught as he urged us to seek attunement with the Father. Jesus overcame in the way and knew that we, too, could rise above being hurt, or tempted, or mistreated. With Him as the pattern there is within us no desire to strike back. Each time we resent, we add to these confusing urges that become stumbling blocks for us.
(09:41:44) (Bill) Thus we may use those things that have hindered, that would cause the quickness of speech, the anger at being thwarted, as stepping stones to a more perfect understanding and to a realization of being in accord with His Way.
(09:42:21) (Bill) As we give our selves, our love, our patience, and our kindness, however hard it may be, to help others, we learn His Way and may depend upon His help to sustain us. If we let the beauty of His life guide us, then those things that beset as a temptation, those things that make us afraid, may be cast upon Him, who has promised to bear our burdens with us.
(09:43:08) (Bill) It is well that we understand that our soul takes on physical bodies as means through which practical applications can be made of tenets that make for the development of our soul. Such opportunities arise in our dealings with our fellowman.
(09:43:42) (Bill) Our entrance into the earth plane at any time is for the purpose that another lesson may be gained, another opportunity for soul expression may be had. Our knowledge of a law is not sufficient within itself, but when knowledge is made active and practical, it then becomes a moving force in our lives.
(09:44:15) (Bill) . Let us seek to make our bodies channels through which Creative Energy may become an active force, whereby we may gradually become aware of our own identity in the Creator.
(09:44:45) (Bill) We may become aware of our soul through commonplace, everyday observance of spiritual laws within our understanding, by putting into daily application the laws of love and service to others. We must measure up to that which we hold as the ideal in our relationships with our fellowman, for we can estimate our concept of God by examining our attitude toward others.
(09:46:20) (Bill) i think if we can obsorb this much for one evening and put it into practice we'll be doing good so thats the material for this evening
(09:46:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Agreed
(09:47:03) (Lory) Bill, what a wonderful lesson. And in spite of my trying to be funny, this is really great stuff.
(09:47:09) (Bill) i'm sure we all seen a few remarks here we could relate to that effects our daily lives
(09:49:46) (Bill) For example, if we consider that slights, slurs, and unkind words, are directed against us and we remain untouched within and can rise above the selfish desire to strike back, i'm sure this is one we've all tripped over a few times :o)
(09:50:24) (Lory) Never take anything personally, Bill.
(09:50:33) (Gordito-mhmn) anyone can love those who love thgem back.
(09:50:54) (Bill) yes Gordito thats a given :o)
(09:51:38) (Bill) those who tend to step on our toes are another matter
(09:51:45) (Gordito-mhmn) Remember the Beatitudes
(09:51:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(09:52:16) (merri) what's the difference Bill
(09:52:37) (Gordito-mhmn) More in lovimg those who hate your guts.
(09:52:55) (KingShao) Amen
(09:52:59) (Gordito-mhmn) Takes a more spiritually rounded soul.
(09:53:03) (Lory) Why should anyone hate anothers guts, Gordy?
(09:53:11) (Gordito-mhmn) Happens.
(09:53:19) (KingShao) YUes
(09:53:39) (Bill) Each time we resent, we add to these confusing urges that become stumbling blocks for us.
(09:53:44) (Gordito-mhmn) Those are the ones who need the most love.
(09:53:49) (KingShao) Yes
(09:53:52) (Lory) Hate is self defeating.
(09:53:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(09:54:20) (MaryAnne) It is often hard to find a way to not be a doormat without being mean spirited
(09:54:27) (Gordito-mhmn) Those who condone war, don't truly love.
(09:54:28) (merri) but what about those who "step on our toes"?
(09:54:37) (MaryAnne) Hate destroys the vessel in which it is stored.
(09:54:48) (KingShao) turn the other cheek
(09:54:52) (Gordito-mhmn) Neither do those whom condone wrongfullness for any reason.
(09:55:09) (Bill) except them for who they are Merri and don't allow them to lower you to their standards
(09:55:18) (Gordito-mhmn) One who loves cannot condone anything other thyen love.
(09:55:27) (KingShao) I Agree
(09:55:37) (Gordito-mhmn) Heor she may have to accept it as a way of liufe for others.
(09:55:50) (Bill) by hateing another we are also feeding their hatered
(09:55:54) (Gordito-mhmn) But never accepting that way of life as acceptable.
(09:55:55) (BlackWolf) Clobber them while having love in your heart, does not seem to work :o)
(09:56:21) (WalksInSpirit) What about those who hang onto percieved wrongs? I Cor. says Love does not do that.
(09:56:25) (MaryAnne) No it doesn't BW :o)
(09:56:28) (Bill) well BW some times you have to clobber to get their attention :o)
(09:56:56) (MaryAnne) Oh, thank you Bill, now I feel better.
(09:57:00) (Gordito-mhmn) Love those who wrong you.
(09:57:06) (KingShao) The perfect man
(09:57:13) (Bill) only at a very last resort MaryAnne :o)
(09:57:16) (Gordito-mhmn) You don't have to accept their actions.
(09:57:20) (Lory) Do you use a 2 x 4, Bill?
(09:57:23) (Gordito-mhmn) But you must love them.
(09:57:37) (Gordito-mhmn) Jesus was hated for his views by many.
(09:57:48) (WalksInSpirit) I Cor. says Love keeps no record of wrongs, and it is patient, forgiving, and long suffering.
(09:58:06) (KingShao) right on
(09:58:06) (Gordito-mhmn) God Keeps record.
(09:58:11) (Gordito-mhmn) That is enough.
(09:58:24) (WalksInSpirit) Then, God cannot be Love.
(09:58:25) (Gordito-mhmn) Must you condone wrong doing? No!!!
(09:58:34) (Bill) well Lory i very seldom scold anyone verbally or any other way i just ignor and and at times have told them i'm sorry they feel or act that way
(09:58:52) (Gordito-mhmn) When you blot away all trangresssions, so does God.
(09:59:15) (MaryAnne) Cayce said to act as if it had never been, I find that hard to do at times.
(09:59:15) (WalksInSpirit) God isn't dependant on our decisions.
(09:59:27) (Gordito-mhmn) Sure He IUs.
(09:59:44) (Gordito-mhmn) ]That varies what comes into your life by the Hand of God.
(09:59:50) (Lory) I find it interesting tho, Bill, to try and find out their motivation. Often when they manifest their thoughts into words, they realize the error.
(10:00:13) (Gordito-mhmn) Your decisions today affects your future tomorrow.
(10:00:24) (Gordito-mhmn) God takes alol things into account.
(10:00:26) (Lory) And then one can become a channel for blessings.
(10:00:36) (WalksInSpirit) If He is, then that shoots the purpose of following His Will in the head, because He would not have one. It would only be our will.
(10:00:37) (Bill) being in a physical work full of free wills there are unexpected acts to deal with at times
(10:00:42) (Gordito-mhmn) Once self has been lost.
(10:00:48) (KingShao) free will he wants us to come to the right decision on our own
(10:00:53) (Gordito-mhmn) Once self has been conquered.
(10:01:08) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Bill
(10:01:09) (Bill) yes King
(10:01:29) (Gordito-mhmn) But God Moves people and events together.
(10:01:35) (KingShao) He is perfect and does no wrong
(10:01:48) (Lory) Thats why it is important not to take anything personally, Bill. :-)
(10:01:56) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes.
(10:01:57) (WalksInSpirit) Whoa Hoss... a few discussions ago, it was said that we have no free will.
(10:02:03) (Gordito-mhmn) Keep it universal.
(10:02:08) (Bill) easier said than done often Lory
(10:02:09) (KingShao) Yes
(10:02:33) (Gordito-mhmn) You have limited free will.
(10:02:51) (Gordito-mhmn) You are able to ,make choices for yourself.
(10:03:06) (KingShao) a paradox
(10:03:13) (Gordito-mhmn) But you cannot wiill yourself free from a material death.
(10:03:20) (Gordito-mhmn) Only His Will can do that.
(10:04:09) (Gordito-mhmn) Few want to suffer death in the physical.
(10:04:21) (Gordito-mhmn) But all must pay the price.
(10:04:35) (MaryAnne) Some of us consider death an obstacle to our growth, Gordito
(10:04:40) (WalksInSpirit) Jesus did. And He said we can do greater things than He did. One case of that was when Smith Wigglesworth brought a man back from the dead three days after he had died in London, England in the early 1940's. It's documented.
(10:04:45) (Lory) No maybe about it, I'm here. :-)
(10:04:47) (Gordito-mhmn) You either give self willingl;y or he snathes you by way of death in the flesh.
(10:04:58) (MaryAnne) I meant to say, some of us do NOT consider death an obstacle
(10:04:59) (Gordito-mhmn) Either way its always going to be His ay.'
(10:05:27) (Gordito-mhmn) It isw a lowley thging that comes to a Child of God.,
(10:05:33) (Gordito-mhmn) Death of the flesh.
(10:05:36) (Lory) I believe death is not an obstacle. It is an opportunity.....
(10:05:54) (MaryAnne) I believe that too, Lory
(10:05:54) (Gordito-mhmn) Of course.
(10:06:12) (Gordito-mhmn) But Jesus provided an even Greater Opportunity.
(10:06:32) (Gordito-mhmn) To Overcome even a physical death.
(10:06:40) (KingShao) Yes
(10:06:41) (Lory) That is true, Gordy, but my free will has chosen to learn the hard way maybe.
(10:06:47) (Bill) life is an opportunity passing over is a rest while still learning till the next round of hard core lessons
(10:07:07) (Gordito-mhmn) To Be Rightfully Called A Child of God, having Acceped Your Inheiritance; not such a bad thing.
(10:07:17) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Lory
(10:07:26) (KingShao) right here right now
(10:08:22) (Bill) by applying the lesson we get here the road is much easier to tread
(10:08:29) (KingShao) levels of developement ,cayce said none could be skipped
(10:08:41) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(10:08:43) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes
(10:08:58) (Lory) Yes, Bill. These are wonderful lessons. And thank you again for presenting them.
(10:09:05) (MaryAnne) I must go....has been very interesting lesson and discussion, thanks Bill...
(10:09:12) (Gordito-mhmn) It's all about prayter and application, developing "That Bond".
(10:09:24) (KingShao) Yes
(10:09:56) (KingShao) The prayer of a righteous man availith much
(10:10:19) (Gordito-mhmn) Having Faith you are Communing with God; having faith you are Receiving that Which Is Of Him to apply in your life.
(10:10:43) (Lory) A question of application? Do we not all apply these lessons in our own way? Surely as long as we try it is acceptable to Him?
(10:11:03) (Gordito-mhmn) It is the try that is counted.
(10:11:07) (WalksInSpirit) It sure is, Grandmother. Cayce said the try counts.
(10:11:12) (Gordito-mhmn) Best to try.
(10:11:16) (Bill) if one prays it is my opinion you should then let it go and except it as being so
(10:11:35) (merri) only the righteous can pray?
(10:12:00) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes and accept thast what comes through to apply, in regards to your spiritual growthy and development is from Him.
(10:12:01) (Bill) well Merri if you wish i'll allow you to pray as well :o)
(10:12:09) (Lory) Surely everyone can pray. And He surely must hear us all.
(10:12:10) (merri) lol
(10:12:20) (merri) TY Bill
(10:12:32) (KingShao) God ignores the prayer of the man who flouts the law
(10:12:49) (merri) you know that for a fact?
(10:12:59) (WalksInSpirit) Naw, Merri. If that is so, then churches full of people will be splitting Hell wide open, because no one heard their prayer to save their souls back when they were un-righteous. LOL
(10:13:03) (Gordito-mhmn) Best to pray In Spirit, with self laid aside, having faith that the Words that come out of your mouth in prayer are the Correct Ones.
(10:13:03) (KingShao) from His Word
(10:13:05) (Lory) No soul is lost King. He loves us all.
(10:13:14) (KingShao) book of Proverbs
(10:13:27) (Bill) all prayers are answered but in many cases the answers are not excepted as what the prayer was wishing for
(10:13:35) (Gordito-mhmn) All prayer is Heard, often the request5 is denied.
(10:13:36) (merri) I don't believe God ignores any prayer
(10:13:46) (KingShao) that would contradict
(10:14:05) (Lory) He doesn't ignore mine either, merri.
(10:14:08) (Gordito-mhmn) Not all is heard directly.
(10:14:24) (merri) go on!
(10:14:24) (Gordito-mhmn) God is cushioned from those who are not of Like Mind.
(10:14:34) (merri) oh brother!
(10:14:40) (Gordito-mhmn) Hence Spirit Guides and such.
(10:14:45) (Gordito-mhmn) Go betwweens.
(10:14:49) (merri) class distinction even in heaven!
(10:14:53) (Lory) God sends His angels to me frequently. And I am so blessed. Thank you God.
(10:15:08) (Gordito-mhmn) The vibration is not condusive to him.
(10:15:12) (KingShao) God says my ways are not your ways neither are my thoughts your thoughts
(10:15:18) (Gordito-mhmn) Hence banishment from Heaven.
(10:15:30) (Gordito-mhmn) It is not because of "good vibes"
(10:15:44) (WalksInSpirit) Betty J. Eady saw prayers going to God during her near death experience. She described them as little golden comet-like things that sped directly to the Throne of God. And there were countless billions of them passing by her.
(10:16:01) (Blu) the squeaky wheel gets the grease merri
(10:16:02) (Gordito-mhmn) That is why few have seen the Face of God.
(10:16:26) (Blu) LOL, if you saw the face of God you would burn to a cinder instantly
(10:16:28) (Gordito-mhmn) That is why it is best to pray in His Spirit As One.
(10:16:44) (Lory) I should think one must be perfect to see the Face of God, Gordy.....
(10:16:52) (Gordito-mhmn) Yes Lory.
(10:17:02) (Gordito-mhmn) One must Be Perfected, even as He.
(10:17:37) (Blu) then again, if you do not see God in your brother then you have toatally missed the mark
(10:18:01) (Gordito-mhmn) Well, can't get to God if you don't love ervryone.
(10:18:12) (Gordito-mhmn) Heaven.
(10:18:32) (Lory) Indeed, Blu. The ever blessed at-one-ment!
(10:19:24) (Lory) I need to go....Thanks again, Bill. Goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:19:56) (Gordito-mhmn) By sin came death; by the shedding od blood came Freedom.....Freedom from a consciousness into a Greater Consciousness. Cayce 276-7
(10:22:00) (Gordito-mhmn) "When you Know the Truth, the Truth shall indeed set you Free. From what? That of self. Cayce 1538-1
(10:25:05) (Bill) . When the heavens fold up and time will be no more, behold ~~ we will be there. Now, as in the beginning, we are sons of God, and our destiny is to be kings and priests unto Him.
(10:58:46) (merri) dreamtime for me...TY for tonights lesson Bill....Blessings All
(10:59:56) (Bill) Love and Light to each of you thank you for being!
