Post by WalksInSpirit on May 1, 2006 22:25:38 GMT -5
Search For God - Book Two Study: 05-01-06
Lesson 4: Desire
(09:30:16) (Bill) okay we are off and running with this evenings lesson on desire
(09:30:25) (Bill) Father, let Thy desires be my desires. Let my desires, God, be Thy desires, in spirit and in truth. (262-60.) Amen
(09:30:32) (Cris) WB Sophia
(09:30:38) (merri) Amen
(09:30:41) (Roz) Amen
(09:30:44) (torontal) aMEN
(09:30:44) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:45) (Spirit) amen
(09:30:47) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:09) (KingShao) Thy Will Be Done ,Father
(09:31:29) (Bill) Physical forces are in the material realms of activity. Mental forces are both spiritual and physical in their reaction to the body and to conditions mental, spiritual and physical which surround us. If our purposes are spiritual, and we hold to them, we are more able to meet and overcome adverse conditions in the material.
(09:32:10) (Bill) . Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(09:33:29) (Bill) His mercies are sufficient unto those who put their trust in Him. Has the Father changed? Has He faltered in His promises? He has promised to meet all after the pattern given on the Mount. “Draw nigh to God.” (James 4:8.)His mercies are sufficient unto those who put their trust in Him. Has the Father changed? Has He faltered in His promises? He has promised to meet all after the pattern given on the Mount. “Draw nigh to God.” (James 4:8.)
(09:34:02) (Bill) . . . so shall ye be my people, and I will be your God.” (Jer. 11:4.) His children are those whose desires are His desires. When we hold such attitudes we have no fear, for “perfect love casteth out fear.” (I John 4:18.)
(09:34:52) (Bill) THE WISDOM OF UNSELFISH DESIRE:
(09:35:06) (Bill) : If our activities are such as to bring into our experience the satisfaction of selfish interests for fame, fortune, position, and to be well spoken of, they are physical. If they are such as to bring into our life the desire to express love, patience, long-suffering, gentleness, kindness, service to others, then they make for spiritual development.
(09:35:40) (Bill) . If we desire to know whether we have chosen wisely, we should ask ourselves, “What is the desire that is being gratified by the attributes of the relationships being sought?” If it is for aggrandizement of self’s own physical desires, then it is carnal.
(09:36:06) (Bill) If it is for creating a channel for an expression of good, then it is spiritual. As to the choices, these we ourselves must make. What we sow we must reap. Ambition, unless it is tested in God’s crucible, is of itself sin. Not that we should not be ambitious ~~ no ~~ but rather ambitious that God should be the guide, and not self.
(09:36:45) (KingShao) right on
(09:36:57) (Bill) When we view ourselves either from the spiritual, the mental, or the material plane, we may see reflected in our experience just how we have meted out the knowledge we have known. What we do with our abilities, our opportunities, brings forth fruit in due season. We find ourselves either at peace within, or filled with doubt, fear and consternation.
(09:36:57) (Gladrielle) So you speak of the collective consciousness, Bill?
(09:37:56) (Gladrielle) Recognition of one's personal power
(09:37:59) (KingShao) He who's mind is stayed upon Him ,he holds in perfect peace
(09:38:08) (Bill) Glad the lessons purpose is to teach us the difference in desires of the physical or desires of the spiritual nature
(09:38:37) (Bill) Would we have peace? Then let us make like peaceful to those whom we love, to those against whom we have a grudge, to those whom we do not care for. If we would have love, then let us be lovable even to those that show, in our own understanding, disregard for His ways. For the events of life are the experiences and expressions of a soul seeking.
(09:38:53) (Gladrielle) But are we not of the "One" by spiritual origion?
(09:39:57) (Bill) after the lesson Glad we will discuse it as to keep every one on track and able to obsorb the material
(09:40:32) (Gladrielle) I beg your pardon
(09:41:03) (Bill) other wise Glad we get side tracked
(09:41:18) (Bill) . What in the experience of man can be more direful, more dreadful, that to be lost, yet seeking? Fear and trembling assails us, yet ~~ will we let Him in? His spirit maketh our spirit and soul aware of the love of the Father. The toil and strife are for just a little while. We are living now in eternity.
(09:41:28) (Gladrielle) ah.....yet desire is a human trait.....
(09:42:14) (Bill) Let praise and honor be in our purpose toward those things that make us aware of His Presence abiding with us; for His promises are sure, and they who walk with Him shall know Him. The Price must be paid! There is no such thing as receiving without giving. If we would have life we must give life.
(09:42:48) (Bill) If we would have joy we must make joy in the lives of others. If we would have peace and harmony we must create peace in self and in our relationships with others. This is the law, for like begets like. We do not gather olives from thistles, or apples from bramble bushes, neither do we find love in hate.
(09:43:20) (Bill) “Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in Thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.” (Ps. 19:14.) May we in wisdom choose Thy desire to be our desire.
(09:43:54) (Bill) CONCLUSION: Know that what we choose to do has a constructive influence within ourselves and those about us; else beware.
(09:44:15) (Bill) Those things that bring pleasure and ease in material associations in our life are not at fault unless we worship them or use them selfishly. Things of the earth will pass away, but love that sustains in the hour of testing abides with us always.
(09:44:53) (Bill) Knowing this, let us keep the heart singing. This can be done as we look deeper into the heart of the rose, listen to the song of the bird, see the paintings of His face in the setting sun, see the loveliness in the moonbeam that turns all into the radiance of His glory, see in the raindrop, the storm , all nature, and even in those ugly things in people’s lives, the desire for expressing love rather than hate, harmony rather than discord!
(09:45:19) (lilith) oh that's lovely, Bill! ty
(09:45:26) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(09:45:42) (Bill) As to results, leave them to Him who give life, who takes life; for “The earth is the Lord’s . . . and they that dwell therein.” (Ps. 24:1.) Let us fill our minds with the desire to know that we are the Lord’s, and He will work in us and through us, guiding our hands, and our feet and our walks in the paths of life, that we may be channels of blessing to all whom we meet.
(09:46:26) (Bill) Come ~~ come! Let us make known our desires in the light of that which has been promised by Him, who is the Light and the Way, to those who seek to know more of the Father’s will. Let us make known the desire of our heart, that we may be one with Him.
(09:46:53) (Bill) We must not faint at the trials, at the temptations, at the weaknesses; for He has called us. Will we not harken? He is able to fulfill that which He has promised into our material, mental and spiritual experience. Let not evil overcome us, but let us overcome evil in His name.
(09:47:37) (Bill) Each soul goes on from things terrestrial to things celestial, from things material to things mental and spiritual, and in each of these realms the consciousness of the soul seeks expression in that particular field of activity which it has built within its own inner self.
(09:48:03) (Bill) . The soul lives on that it may become more and more aware of abiding, and living, and being in the Christ Consciousness.
(09:48:36) (Bill) “Come, my children, ye that week the Lord; He is nigh unto thee. Thou hast purposed well in thine studies, in thine preparation for those that would seek through these channels to know more of what thy Lord, thy God, would have them to do. Be not satisfied, but rather content in that ye are being a channel of blessing to they fellowman.
(09:49:30) (Bill) . Thou are as the leaven that will leaven the whole, for some there be among you that will hear His voice ~~ and He will walk and talk with those that are willing, joyously, that He, thy brother, thy Christ, thy Savior, would direct thy way.s. Keep the faith.” (262-67, A-20.)
(09:50:20) (Bill) Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed by Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done; as in heaven, so in earth. Give us for tomorrow the needs of the body. Forget those trespasses as we forgive those that have trespassed and do trespass against us. Be Thou the guide in the time of trouble, turmoil and temptation. Lead us in paths of righteousness for Thy name’s sake. (378-44.)
(09:50:56) (merri) Amen
(09:51:00) (lilith) ty darlin - quite willin' to receive it!
(09:51:11) (Bill) “Come ye children that seek the light! Bow thine heads in praise to the Son. For, the way for each of you that would seek His face, is being opened before thee. The Son of Man, the Christ, thy Lord is among thee, even in thine heart ~~ if ye will but open the door to Him!: (262-63.)
(09:51:29) (lilith) amen - ty Bill - that "give us for tomorrow the needs of the body" rings true, doesn't it?
(09:52:00) (Bill) and thats this evening material for us to digest
(09:52:14) (Gladrielle) Now we may discuss?
(09:52:18) (lilith) well done, ol Sock!
(09:52:46) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Bill! Great material and great presentation!
(09:52:55) (Bill) Yes Glad now let er rip!
(09:52:58) (Spirit) Thank you Bill
(09:53:32) (Bill) your very welcome it is always my pleasure to give this material
(09:53:54) (Gladrielle) You are most learned, Bill
(09:54:29) (Gladrielle) It is not my intention to be rude....if I was I do apologize
(09:54:15) (Bill) not really Glad i take it from SFG books
(09:54:42) (Bill) i'm still learning every min.
(09:55:00) (Gladrielle) That is what life is ......a great adventure
(09:55:09) (Bill) you were not rude Glad it is a pleasure to have new insights
(09:55:19) (lilith) hey Glad - you okay??
(09:55:36) (Gladrielle) I am grateful for your patience with a new-comer to this room
(09:55:58) (Gladrielle) I am well, lilith......ty for asking
(09:56:08) (lilith) quite welcome,ol dear
(09:56:15) (Bill) 'we are the ones blessed when new comers enter(09:57:04) (Gladrielle) This is an amazing room.......goodness is prevelant throughout
(09:57:25) (lilith) amazingly good people - pretty much in sync
(09:57:29) (anne) i agree
(09:57:53) (Gladrielle) I can sense such.......You are most kind to accept me
(09:58:20) (lilith) well why not, kiddo - you're no stranger to some of us
(09:58:37) (WalksInSpirit) We're glad to have you with us, Glad!
(09:58:42) (Gladrielle) That is kind
(09:58:55) (Bill) Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(09:58:58) (Gladrielle) Shall we continue this evening's topic
(09:59:11) (Bill) has everyone got this statement down pat?
(09:59:38) (Gladrielle) I should think so, Bill........lol
(10:01:21) (merri) so the inception of Desire comes from the soul?
(10:02:02) (Bill) Merri i think it comes from thinking :o)
(10:02:05) (Gladrielle) If I may
(10:02:28) (anne) yes you may
(10:02:45) (merri) then please explain the paragraph you just posted
(10:02:47) (anne) jump in
(10:02:59) (Gladrielle) Desire is but a natural part of the spiritual self.........
(10:03:05) (Bill) its up to us to decide if the choice of the desire is of the highest nature:If we desire to know whether we have chosen wisely, we should ask ourselves, “What is the desire that is being gratified by the attributes of the relationships being sought?” If it is for aggrandizement of self’s own physical desires, then it is carnal.
(10:03:47) (Gladrielle) It can also be a motivation to improve one's self
(10:03:58) (Spirit) I think you are referring to an earlier paragraph.
(10:04:00) (Gladrielle) When used in a positive light
(10:04:25) (Gladrielle) Yet it is natural motivation for action
(10:05:24) (Gladrielle) With action.....energy is used..and applied
(10:05:33) (Gladrielle) For we are all living energy
(10:05:43) (Bill) our desires like all our choices are only limited by our imagination it is our resonsibility to see they are expressing God's will and not our own
(10:05:46) (Gladrielle) It is but our choice for application
(10:05:54) (anne) felt that, lower stomack
(10:06:21) (Gladrielle) If I may.......not to be a nudge
(10:07:31) (Bill) . What we do with our abilities, our opportunities, brings forth fruit in due season. We find ourselves either at peace within, or filled with doubt, fear and consternation. Would we have peace? Then let us make like peaceful to those whom we love, to those against whom we have a grudge, to those whom we do not care for.
(10:08:41) (anne) please nudge
(10:08:47) (Gladrielle) Bill.......it is difficult for people to discourn the division
(10:09:23) (Gladrielle) We are by spirit.....love
(10:09:26) (Bill) Merri was this the onset of your question: Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(10:09:39) (Gladrielle) It is our natural state
(10:09:42) (Spirit) Yes. here
(10:09:45) (merri) yes, Bill
(10:10:03) (Gladrielle) When we act contrary to that nature.....we have dis-ease
(10:10:18) (Bill) yes Glad but since we have slipped sonme wahat we are now working our way back to the oneness
(10:11:09) (Gladrielle) It is difficult Bill......yet now there is more awareness in society
(10:11:27) (Gladrielle) In fact, we now face total opposits
(10:11:43) (Gladrielle) Those who seek.......and those to react from fear
(10:12:14) (Gladrielle) This is causing a friction ........hence our earth signs
(10:12:51) (Gladrielle) Edgar spoke of this also
(10:12:52) (merri) I don't think all react from fear Glad
(10:12:59) (Bill) many of us have trouble excepting our true selves
(10:13:17) (Gladrielle) Many do not recognize whom we truly are, Bill
(10:13:41) (Gladrielle) We are created in HIS image
(10:13:42) (Bill) god's in the makeing
(10:13:43) (Gordito) Without a death, there cannot be a Birth.
(10:14:11) (ernie) true
(10:14:17) (Gordito) Either your Higher Self of your lower self is in control. You cannot serve two masters.
(10:14:18) (Gladrielle) We are as the Pheonix, Gordito
(10:14:24) (ernie) it is hard and a little scarry
(10:14:31) (ernie) to see within
(10:14:57) (Gordito) You are like the animal;s till self is lo0st in doing His Will, His Biddings.
(10:15:02) (ernie) '?
(10:15:10) (Gladrielle) Gordito........We each serve ourself......it is but a KNOWING which recognizes the higher self
(10:15:13) (lilith) Bill is this open now??
(10:15:16) (ernie) gladrielle ?
(10:15:29) (ernie) lilke the pheonix
(10:15:36) (Gordito) Man has the ability to again regain His Divinity through the lloss of self.
(10:15:37) (lilith) can't quite tell from this!~
(10:15:39) (ernie) good
(10:15:42) (Bill) its what ever your heart desires Lil
(10:15:59) (Gladrielle) yes, we each rise from ashes......and begin again.......incarnate
(10:16:18) (ernie) from dust to dust
(10:16:22) (anne) yes we do , set things straight at home them more on
(10:16:25) (ernie) and back agian
(10:16:32) (Gordito) It is in allowing Him to opperate in your stead that brings Your True Divinity into being.
(10:16:45) (KingShao) Yes
(10:16:55) (Gladrielle) Respectifully, I disagree
(10:17:05) (Bill) He has no wish to operate in your stead is my opinion
(10:17:09) (ernie) with what /
(10:17:17) (ernie) ill change your mind
(10:17:36) (Gordito) According to the Cayce Material that is the Way.
(10:18:16) (Gordito) As is clearly stated in reading 262-29
(10:18:23) (KingShao) the definition of mystic is "one who seeks direct contact with God or spiritual truths by self surrender"
(10:18:53) (Gordito) In explaing the difference between those who are aware of the Spiruits Activity and those who arenot.
(10:21:27) (Gordito) Those with the ability to call upon, to be so unselfish as to allow the Spirit to opperate in selfs stead are aware of the Spirits Activity, while those that may be conscious or awaremay not wholly make It their own without thast which has been given,"He thast would have Life, must give life."
(09:30:25) (Bill) Father, let Thy desires be my desires. Let my desires, God, be Thy desires, in spirit and in truth. (262-60.) Amen
(09:30:32) (Cris) WB Sophia
(09:30:38) (merri) Amen
(09:30:41) (Roz) Amen
(09:30:44) (torontal) aMEN
(09:30:44) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:45) (Spirit) amen
(09:30:47) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:09) (KingShao) Thy Will Be Done ,Father
(09:31:29) (Bill) Physical forces are in the material realms of activity. Mental forces are both spiritual and physical in their reaction to the body and to conditions mental, spiritual and physical which surround us. If our purposes are spiritual, and we hold to them, we are more able to meet and overcome adverse conditions in the material.
(09:32:10) (Bill) . Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(09:33:29) (Bill) His mercies are sufficient unto those who put their trust in Him. Has the Father changed? Has He faltered in His promises? He has promised to meet all after the pattern given on the Mount. “Draw nigh to God.” (James 4:8.)His mercies are sufficient unto those who put their trust in Him. Has the Father changed? Has He faltered in His promises? He has promised to meet all after the pattern given on the Mount. “Draw nigh to God.” (James 4:8.)
(09:34:02) (Bill) . . . so shall ye be my people, and I will be your God.” (Jer. 11:4.) His children are those whose desires are His desires. When we hold such attitudes we have no fear, for “perfect love casteth out fear.” (I John 4:18.)
(09:34:52) (Bill) THE WISDOM OF UNSELFISH DESIRE:
(09:35:06) (Bill) : If our activities are such as to bring into our experience the satisfaction of selfish interests for fame, fortune, position, and to be well spoken of, they are physical. If they are such as to bring into our life the desire to express love, patience, long-suffering, gentleness, kindness, service to others, then they make for spiritual development.
(09:35:40) (Bill) . If we desire to know whether we have chosen wisely, we should ask ourselves, “What is the desire that is being gratified by the attributes of the relationships being sought?” If it is for aggrandizement of self’s own physical desires, then it is carnal.
(09:36:06) (Bill) If it is for creating a channel for an expression of good, then it is spiritual. As to the choices, these we ourselves must make. What we sow we must reap. Ambition, unless it is tested in God’s crucible, is of itself sin. Not that we should not be ambitious ~~ no ~~ but rather ambitious that God should be the guide, and not self.
(09:36:45) (KingShao) right on
(09:36:57) (Bill) When we view ourselves either from the spiritual, the mental, or the material plane, we may see reflected in our experience just how we have meted out the knowledge we have known. What we do with our abilities, our opportunities, brings forth fruit in due season. We find ourselves either at peace within, or filled with doubt, fear and consternation.
(09:36:57) (Gladrielle) So you speak of the collective consciousness, Bill?
(09:37:56) (Gladrielle) Recognition of one's personal power
(09:37:59) (KingShao) He who's mind is stayed upon Him ,he holds in perfect peace
(09:38:08) (Bill) Glad the lessons purpose is to teach us the difference in desires of the physical or desires of the spiritual nature
(09:38:37) (Bill) Would we have peace? Then let us make like peaceful to those whom we love, to those against whom we have a grudge, to those whom we do not care for. If we would have love, then let us be lovable even to those that show, in our own understanding, disregard for His ways. For the events of life are the experiences and expressions of a soul seeking.
(09:38:53) (Gladrielle) But are we not of the "One" by spiritual origion?
(09:39:57) (Bill) after the lesson Glad we will discuse it as to keep every one on track and able to obsorb the material
(09:40:32) (Gladrielle) I beg your pardon
(09:41:03) (Bill) other wise Glad we get side tracked
(09:41:18) (Bill) . What in the experience of man can be more direful, more dreadful, that to be lost, yet seeking? Fear and trembling assails us, yet ~~ will we let Him in? His spirit maketh our spirit and soul aware of the love of the Father. The toil and strife are for just a little while. We are living now in eternity.
(09:41:28) (Gladrielle) ah.....yet desire is a human trait.....
(09:42:14) (Bill) Let praise and honor be in our purpose toward those things that make us aware of His Presence abiding with us; for His promises are sure, and they who walk with Him shall know Him. The Price must be paid! There is no such thing as receiving without giving. If we would have life we must give life.
(09:42:48) (Bill) If we would have joy we must make joy in the lives of others. If we would have peace and harmony we must create peace in self and in our relationships with others. This is the law, for like begets like. We do not gather olives from thistles, or apples from bramble bushes, neither do we find love in hate.
(09:43:20) (Bill) “Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in Thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.” (Ps. 19:14.) May we in wisdom choose Thy desire to be our desire.
(09:43:54) (Bill) CONCLUSION: Know that what we choose to do has a constructive influence within ourselves and those about us; else beware.
(09:44:15) (Bill) Those things that bring pleasure and ease in material associations in our life are not at fault unless we worship them or use them selfishly. Things of the earth will pass away, but love that sustains in the hour of testing abides with us always.
(09:44:53) (Bill) Knowing this, let us keep the heart singing. This can be done as we look deeper into the heart of the rose, listen to the song of the bird, see the paintings of His face in the setting sun, see the loveliness in the moonbeam that turns all into the radiance of His glory, see in the raindrop, the storm , all nature, and even in those ugly things in people’s lives, the desire for expressing love rather than hate, harmony rather than discord!
(09:45:19) (lilith) oh that's lovely, Bill! ty
(09:45:26) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(09:45:42) (Bill) As to results, leave them to Him who give life, who takes life; for “The earth is the Lord’s . . . and they that dwell therein.” (Ps. 24:1.) Let us fill our minds with the desire to know that we are the Lord’s, and He will work in us and through us, guiding our hands, and our feet and our walks in the paths of life, that we may be channels of blessing to all whom we meet.
(09:46:26) (Bill) Come ~~ come! Let us make known our desires in the light of that which has been promised by Him, who is the Light and the Way, to those who seek to know more of the Father’s will. Let us make known the desire of our heart, that we may be one with Him.
(09:46:53) (Bill) We must not faint at the trials, at the temptations, at the weaknesses; for He has called us. Will we not harken? He is able to fulfill that which He has promised into our material, mental and spiritual experience. Let not evil overcome us, but let us overcome evil in His name.
(09:47:37) (Bill) Each soul goes on from things terrestrial to things celestial, from things material to things mental and spiritual, and in each of these realms the consciousness of the soul seeks expression in that particular field of activity which it has built within its own inner self.
(09:48:03) (Bill) . The soul lives on that it may become more and more aware of abiding, and living, and being in the Christ Consciousness.
(09:48:36) (Bill) “Come, my children, ye that week the Lord; He is nigh unto thee. Thou hast purposed well in thine studies, in thine preparation for those that would seek through these channels to know more of what thy Lord, thy God, would have them to do. Be not satisfied, but rather content in that ye are being a channel of blessing to they fellowman.
(09:49:30) (Bill) . Thou are as the leaven that will leaven the whole, for some there be among you that will hear His voice ~~ and He will walk and talk with those that are willing, joyously, that He, thy brother, thy Christ, thy Savior, would direct thy way.s. Keep the faith.” (262-67, A-20.)
(09:50:20) (Bill) Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed by Thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done; as in heaven, so in earth. Give us for tomorrow the needs of the body. Forget those trespasses as we forgive those that have trespassed and do trespass against us. Be Thou the guide in the time of trouble, turmoil and temptation. Lead us in paths of righteousness for Thy name’s sake. (378-44.)
(09:50:56) (merri) Amen
(09:51:00) (lilith) ty darlin - quite willin' to receive it!
(09:51:11) (Bill) “Come ye children that seek the light! Bow thine heads in praise to the Son. For, the way for each of you that would seek His face, is being opened before thee. The Son of Man, the Christ, thy Lord is among thee, even in thine heart ~~ if ye will but open the door to Him!: (262-63.)
(09:51:29) (lilith) amen - ty Bill - that "give us for tomorrow the needs of the body" rings true, doesn't it?
(09:52:00) (Bill) and thats this evening material for us to digest
(09:52:14) (Gladrielle) Now we may discuss?
(09:52:18) (lilith) well done, ol Sock!
(09:52:46) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Bill! Great material and great presentation!
(09:52:55) (Bill) Yes Glad now let er rip!
(09:52:58) (Spirit) Thank you Bill
(09:53:32) (Bill) your very welcome it is always my pleasure to give this material
(09:53:54) (Gladrielle) You are most learned, Bill
(09:54:29) (Gladrielle) It is not my intention to be rude....if I was I do apologize
(09:54:15) (Bill) not really Glad i take it from SFG books
(09:54:42) (Bill) i'm still learning every min.
(09:55:00) (Gladrielle) That is what life is ......a great adventure
(09:55:09) (Bill) you were not rude Glad it is a pleasure to have new insights
(09:55:19) (lilith) hey Glad - you okay??
(09:55:36) (Gladrielle) I am grateful for your patience with a new-comer to this room
(09:55:58) (Gladrielle) I am well, lilith......ty for asking
(09:56:08) (lilith) quite welcome,ol dear
(09:56:15) (Bill) 'we are the ones blessed when new comers enter(09:57:04) (Gladrielle) This is an amazing room.......goodness is prevelant throughout
(09:57:25) (lilith) amazingly good people - pretty much in sync
(09:57:29) (anne) i agree
(09:57:53) (Gladrielle) I can sense such.......You are most kind to accept me
(09:58:20) (lilith) well why not, kiddo - you're no stranger to some of us
(09:58:37) (WalksInSpirit) We're glad to have you with us, Glad!
(09:58:42) (Gladrielle) That is kind
(09:58:55) (Bill) Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(09:58:58) (Gladrielle) Shall we continue this evening's topic
(09:59:11) (Bill) has everyone got this statement down pat?
(09:59:38) (Gladrielle) I should think so, Bill........lol
(10:01:21) (merri) so the inception of Desire comes from the soul?
(10:02:02) (Bill) Merri i think it comes from thinking :o)
(10:02:05) (Gladrielle) If I may
(10:02:28) (anne) yes you may
(10:02:45) (merri) then please explain the paragraph you just posted
(10:02:47) (anne) jump in
(10:02:59) (Gladrielle) Desire is but a natural part of the spiritual self.........
(10:03:05) (Bill) its up to us to decide if the choice of the desire is of the highest nature:If we desire to know whether we have chosen wisely, we should ask ourselves, “What is the desire that is being gratified by the attributes of the relationships being sought?” If it is for aggrandizement of self’s own physical desires, then it is carnal.
(10:03:47) (Gladrielle) It can also be a motivation to improve one's self
(10:03:58) (Spirit) I think you are referring to an earlier paragraph.
(10:04:00) (Gladrielle) When used in a positive light
(10:04:25) (Gladrielle) Yet it is natural motivation for action
(10:05:24) (Gladrielle) With action.....energy is used..and applied
(10:05:33) (Gladrielle) For we are all living energy
(10:05:43) (Bill) our desires like all our choices are only limited by our imagination it is our resonsibility to see they are expressing God's will and not our own
(10:05:46) (Gladrielle) It is but our choice for application
(10:05:54) (anne) felt that, lower stomack
(10:06:21) (Gladrielle) If I may.......not to be a nudge
(10:07:31) (Bill) . What we do with our abilities, our opportunities, brings forth fruit in due season. We find ourselves either at peace within, or filled with doubt, fear and consternation. Would we have peace? Then let us make like peaceful to those whom we love, to those against whom we have a grudge, to those whom we do not care for.
(10:08:41) (anne) please nudge
(10:08:47) (Gladrielle) Bill.......it is difficult for people to discourn the division
(10:09:23) (Gladrielle) We are by spirit.....love
(10:09:26) (Bill) Merri was this the onset of your question: Every force, every power, that is manifesting as a force in the material has its inception in spirit; and when applications are made of a material nature, they must coordinate with the mental, the spiritual, the physical, in order that greater and better conditions may be manifested in material things.
(10:09:39) (Gladrielle) It is our natural state
(10:09:42) (Spirit) Yes. here
(10:09:45) (merri) yes, Bill
(10:10:03) (Gladrielle) When we act contrary to that nature.....we have dis-ease
(10:10:18) (Bill) yes Glad but since we have slipped sonme wahat we are now working our way back to the oneness
(10:11:09) (Gladrielle) It is difficult Bill......yet now there is more awareness in society
(10:11:27) (Gladrielle) In fact, we now face total opposits
(10:11:43) (Gladrielle) Those who seek.......and those to react from fear
(10:12:14) (Gladrielle) This is causing a friction ........hence our earth signs
(10:12:51) (Gladrielle) Edgar spoke of this also
(10:12:52) (merri) I don't think all react from fear Glad
(10:12:59) (Bill) many of us have trouble excepting our true selves
(10:13:17) (Gladrielle) Many do not recognize whom we truly are, Bill
(10:13:41) (Gladrielle) We are created in HIS image
(10:13:42) (Bill) god's in the makeing
(10:13:43) (Gordito) Without a death, there cannot be a Birth.
(10:14:11) (ernie) true
(10:14:17) (Gordito) Either your Higher Self of your lower self is in control. You cannot serve two masters.
(10:14:18) (Gladrielle) We are as the Pheonix, Gordito
(10:14:24) (ernie) it is hard and a little scarry
(10:14:31) (ernie) to see within
(10:14:57) (Gordito) You are like the animal;s till self is lo0st in doing His Will, His Biddings.
(10:15:02) (ernie) '?
(10:15:10) (Gladrielle) Gordito........We each serve ourself......it is but a KNOWING which recognizes the higher self
(10:15:13) (lilith) Bill is this open now??
(10:15:16) (ernie) gladrielle ?
(10:15:29) (ernie) lilke the pheonix
(10:15:36) (Gordito) Man has the ability to again regain His Divinity through the lloss of self.
(10:15:37) (lilith) can't quite tell from this!~
(10:15:39) (ernie) good
(10:15:42) (Bill) its what ever your heart desires Lil
(10:15:59) (Gladrielle) yes, we each rise from ashes......and begin again.......incarnate
(10:16:18) (ernie) from dust to dust
(10:16:22) (anne) yes we do , set things straight at home them more on
(10:16:25) (ernie) and back agian
(10:16:32) (Gordito) It is in allowing Him to opperate in your stead that brings Your True Divinity into being.
(10:16:45) (KingShao) Yes
(10:16:55) (Gladrielle) Respectifully, I disagree
(10:17:05) (Bill) He has no wish to operate in your stead is my opinion
(10:17:09) (ernie) with what /
(10:17:17) (ernie) ill change your mind
(10:17:36) (Gordito) According to the Cayce Material that is the Way.
(10:18:16) (Gordito) As is clearly stated in reading 262-29
(10:18:23) (KingShao) the definition of mystic is "one who seeks direct contact with God or spiritual truths by self surrender"
(10:18:53) (Gordito) In explaing the difference between those who are aware of the Spiruits Activity and those who arenot.
(10:21:27) (Gordito) Those with the ability to call upon, to be so unselfish as to allow the Spirit to opperate in selfs stead are aware of the Spirits Activity, while those that may be conscious or awaremay not wholly make It their own without thast which has been given,"He thast would have Life, must give life."
