Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 19, 2005 22:05:08 GMT -5
Search For God - Book One Study: 09-19-05
"The Awakening Of Self"
(08:20:40) (Bill) Tonight's Topic: "The Awakening Of Self."
(08:24:59) (Bill) Father, as we seek to see and know Thy face, may we each, as individuals and as a group, Come to know ourselves, even as we are known, that we ~~ as lights in Thee ~~ may give The better concept of Thy Spirit in this world. (262-5)
(08:25:05) (Bill) Amen
(08:25:22) (merri) Amen
(08:25:28) (ron) amen
(08:25:38) (Roz) Amen
(08:26:49) (vjh) amen.
(08:26:53) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(08:27:13) (Blu) Amen
(08:31:24) (Bill) okay this evening we'll deal with the awakening of self
(08:32:35) (Bill) take in mind we're going through in a couple wks. what the original group proable took mons. to do because they each had to live it before more info was given.
(08:32:54) (Bill) ~~ Our physical bodies, our mental bodies, and our soul bodies are but shadows of the Triune. The body-physical is as man. The body-mental is as the savior of man, for it is through the application of the mental influences that we would control and build that which finds expression in the physical and in the soul.
(08:33:22) (Bill) The body-soul is made in the image of the Creator, and made to be a companion in spirit. The physical body is the house, the home of the soul, during a sojourn in the material world. What we do with the opportunities that are presented in our various experiences is giving expression to those powers that are lent to our souls and our bodies in their passage through the earth.
(08:34:01) (Bill) As the knowledge of the awakening of our soul forces is applied in our relationship to our fellow man, we come to realize our relationship to our Maker, for “As ye do it unto one of the least of these, ye do it unto me.” (P.R. see Matt. 25-40)
(08:34:37) (Bill) For us to be aware of our physical desires and appetites is physical awakening. To satisfy them selfishly is sin. This is illustrated in the experience of our first parents.
(08:34:55) (Bill) “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” (Gen. 3.6).
(08:35:34) (Bill) When we become aware that the mind can control the physical desires, then we have a mental awakening. “But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with . . . the king’s meat, nor with the wine which he drank.” (Dan. l.8.)
(08:36:01) (Bill) This is an illustration of one who stood firm in the light of a mental awakening, even though it was seemingly a sacrifice of life itself.
(08:36:32) (Bill) When we are conscious that we can reconcile the spirit within with the spirit without and know that they are one and are from the same source, God, then we have a spiritual awakening. This was manifested perfectly in Jesus, the Master, in His daily life among men.
(08:37:08) (Bill) An awakening is the natural thing, when we attune ourselves to the Source of all good, allowing His Spirit to bear witness with out spirit. We are awakened then to the knowledge that we are, indeed, sons of God.
(08:37:32) (Bill) We show forth our spiritual awakening by our patience, tolerance, long-suffering, and forbearance, not being willing that any should suffer, but that all should come to the knowledge of the Truth. When we practice these virtues in our daily lives we become masters among men.
(08:38:07) (Bill) CONCLUSION ~~ Let us realize that we should so live in body and in mind that we may be channels through which the Creative Forces may flow. Let us give more attention to our thoughts, for thoughts are deeds and are children of the union of the mind and the soul.
(08:38:33) (Bill) . What we think continually we become. What we cherish in our minds is built into our own physical bodies, becoming not only food for our souls, but also the soul’s heritage in realms of other experiences.
(08:38:57) (Bill) Will is an attribute of the soul. We must recognize by exercising it that we either make ourselves one with our Maker, or separate ourselves from Him. With the will we can either adhere to or contradict those immutable laws set between the Creator and the created.
(08:39:38) (Bill) Let us determine within ourselves that a constructive program will be followed. The conditions of the program, then, require that a definite stand be taken by each of us.
(08:39:59) (Bill) We are determined that we will adhere to it, no matter what we may suffer mentally or physically. We will trust in the dine Force within for the strength to endure and for the ability to say no when we should. We will consider the needs of others before our own.
(08:40:57) (Bill) May we study to show ourselves approved unto God in body, mind, and soul. May we become less and less aware of the desires to gratify the carnal forces of the body. Is our purpose in life to gain power, position, wealth, and to satisfy the longings of the flesh? Are we to lose our own souls by so doing? It is for us to choose. The Christ stands ready to help. Shall we bar the door of our own consciousness?
(08:42:39) (Bill) Hello BW , now i'll finish of this lesson with something we can spend the next wk. or the rest of our life considering :o)
(08:42:44) (Bill) In your interactions with others throughout the week, keep the Masters words in mind: “ As ye do it unto the least of these, ye do it unto Me.”
(08:43:30) (Bill) now comments and input is greatly appreciated :o)
(08:44:07) (Bill) we each most likely see much of this material in a slightly differnet light
(08:44:29) (merri) does the soul need to be awakened?
(08:44:52) (Bill) Roz answer that please :o)
(08:45:15) (Roz) soul awakened?
(08:45:48) (Bill) As the knowledge of the awakening of our soul forces is applied in our relationship to our fellow man, we come to realize our relationship to our Maker, for “As ye do it unto one of the least of these, ye do it unto me.” (P.R. see Matt. 25-40)
(08:46:05) (Roz) I think the soul is fully operative its the mind we need to work on
(08:46:26) (Bill) . The body-physical is as man. The body-mental is as the savior of man, for it is through the application of the mental influences that we would control and build that which finds expression in the physical and in the soul.
(08:46:28) (ron) suggesting that the soul is still in a state of ignorance
(08:47:15) (Roz) our soul is our memory
(08:47:29) (Bill) The body-soul is made in the image of the Creator, and made to be a companion in spirit.
(08:47:37) (ron) Spirit-Will-Mind
(08:47:45) (Bill) What we do with the opportunities that are presented in our various experiences is giving expression to those powers that are lent to our souls and our bodies in their passage through the earth.
(08:48:03) (WalksInSpirit) Roz, back in the 80s there was a pop group called "En Vogue." They did a song, and part of the words went "Free your mind, and the rest will follow." :-)
(08:48:27) (Raleigh) powerful song
(08:48:34) (merri) so the soul is already awakened but the body mind needs to follow?
(08:48:51) (Roz) Soul takes care of its own
(08:48:57) (Bill) shed any light Merri or would some more imput be helpful
(08:48:58) (Raleigh) oh i danced hard vj / after ron lit me up /
(08:49:00) (ron) the Triune Spirit or Triune Soul
(08:49:49) (merri) well I was always under the impression the soul was already aware of it's relationship to God
(08:49:49) (Bill) i think the body mind builds the soul mind as it is the store house for all our experinces i think
(08:50:29) (merri) some of these phrases has me thinking otherwise
(08:50:38) (Bill) it may be aware but as souls we abandoned God
(08:50:55) (lily) What?
(08:51:09) (Bill) thats why your here Lily
(08:51:21) (lily) come on bill .... you can't be serious
(08:51:25) (ron) merri has a good point
(08:51:42) (Raleigh) we chose earth to play lily
(08:52:00) (Raleigh) and became entangled
(08:52:09) (lily) good grief
(08:52:40) (merri) what is your impression, lily?
(08:52:46) (Bill) were aware of a lot of things that doesn't mean to say we abide by them we are continually expressing our free will shelfishly
(08:53:08) (ron) yes, true...we abondaned our "First Love"
(08:53:24) (ron) its found in Revelation
(08:53:44) (Bill) As the knowledge of the awakening of our soul forces is applied in our relationship to our fellow man, we come to realize our relationship to our Maker, for “As ye do it unto one of the least of these, ye do it unto me.” (P.R. see Matt. 25-40)
(08:54:52) (ron) whatever
(08:54:53) (merri) does the mind awaken the soul? Is that what is being said?
(08:55:15) (Bill) For us to be aware of our physical desires and appetites is physical awakening. To satisfy them selfishly is sin.
(08:55:22) (BlackWolf) The mind needs to become aware of the higher slef.
(08:55:30) (Bill) yes BW
(08:55:47) (Bill) When we become aware that the mind can control the physical desires, then we have a mental awakening.
(08:55:52) (lily) come on bill
(08:56:07) (ron) the mind is awakened by the Will
(08:56:31) (Raleigh) yes lily / the desires say of the body must be controled
(08:56:34) (Raleigh) will
(08:56:40) (ron) thus, the Mind becomes our Saviour
(08:56:42) (Bill) Lily these are Cayce's words if you disagree give us your opinion :o)
(08:57:09) (Raleigh) its easy to see lily /
(08:57:15) (Raleigh) big picture
(08:57:25) (lily) you've heard me speak about this before
(08:58:02) (merri) I haven't, lily and would be interested in what you have to say
(08:58:24) (Raleigh) yes lily / pls say your ideas
(08:58:28) (Bill) give it to us in a context we can relate to with this subject Lily
(08:58:34) (lily) there is no sin ... illusion
(08:58:50) (lily) there is no abandonment ... illusion
(08:59:15) (Raleigh) kinda / awake we are in a dream kinda yes
(08:59:25) (Raleigh) illlusion
(08:59:28) (Raleigh) as toime
(08:59:44) (Raleigh) time is as well lily / an illusion liker
(08:59:52) (Bill) When we are conscious that we can reconcile the spirit within with the spirit without and know that they are one and are from the same source, God, then we have a spiritual awakening. This was manifested perfectly in Jesus, the Master, in His daily life among men.
(09:00:27) (lily) that's right ... he knew he was God and came to tell us we are also
(09:00:27) (merri) isn't that of the mind, lily?
(09:00:50) (merri) the illusion part
(09:00:58) (merri) not of the soul?
(09:01:19) (Raleigh) yes lily as his kids we are
(09:01:30) (ron) is there such a thing as a soul without a mind?
(09:01:48) (merri) no
(09:01:50) (Raleigh) ive lost my mind ron
(09:01:52) (Raleigh) so yes
(09:01:56) (Raleigh) :)
(09:02:04) (Bill) An awakening is the natural thing, when we attune ourselves to the Source of all good, allowing His Spirit to bear witness with out spirit. We are awakened then to the knowledge that we are, indeed, sons of God.
(09:02:11) (merri) but isn't the soul force innate?
(09:02:19) (ron) you're ok ral...just keep walking straight
(09:02:22) (merri) and feeds the mind?
(09:02:24) (Raleigh) lol
(09:03:02) (ron) doesn't initiatie activity?
(09:03:18) (ron) but, in the beginning....
(09:03:26) (Bill) . We show forth our spiritual awakening by our patience, tolerance, long-suffering, and forbearance, not being willing that any should suffer, but that all should come to the knowledge of the Truth. When we practice these virtues in our daily lives we become masters among men.
(09:03:33) (merri) what doesn't?
(09:04:12) (lily) we are masters among men ... we need Do nothing ... we need only to Be
(09:04:29) (Raleigh) just the opposit
(09:04:44) (ron) another illusion
(09:04:50) (merri) what does only to Be consist of lily?
(09:05:06) (lily) go inside and ask merri
(09:05:14) (Raleigh) take action / in all action /good bad right wrong / there is progress / soul developement lily
(09:05:20) (Bill) ~~ Let us realize that we should so live in body and in mind that we may be channels through which the Creative Forces may flow. Let us give more attention to our thoughts, for thoughts are deeds and are children of the union of the mind and the soul. What we think continually we become.
(09:05:24) (ron) there would be no need to ask
(09:05:29) (lily) no ... no action ... only to be
(09:05:54) (Bill) What we cherish in our minds is built into our own physical bodies, becoming not only food for our souls, but also the soul’s heritage in realms of other experiences.
(09:05:57) (lily) you are already that ... doing anything makes it no more so
(09:07:01) (Bill) Will is an attribute of the soul. We must recognize by exercising it that we either make ourselves one with our Maker, or separate ourselves from Him. With the will we can either adhere to or contradict those immutable laws set between the Creator and the created.
(09:07:18) (Raleigh) that 1 dwells upon 1 becomes that 2
(09:07:57) (lily) but we are One with our maker ... there is nothing we can do to be seperate ... nothing
(09:08:25) (Bill) can we not express our free will Lily?
(09:08:31) (Raleigh) we can seperate ourselves lily
(09:08:31) (merri) does just to Be imply not action at all, lily?
(09:08:32) (lily) of course
(09:08:47) (lily) action is a third dimensional concept
(09:09:00) (lily) we believe we must do ... because we forget who we are
(09:09:04) (Raleigh) be banished say too lily
(09:09:09) (lily) when we remember there is only to be
(09:09:27) (Bill) it could be expressed better than that Kazu if i could come up with the right words
(09:09:46) (ron) but there is nothing to forget...another illusion
(09:09:51) (Raleigh) ec says that even snuffed out is possible lily
(09:09:53) (lily) you are God ... and God is you ... there is nothing you can do or say or even believe to change that
(09:11:42) (lily) much more than we can imagine Raleigh ... so much more than just part
(09:11:45) (Raleigh) see omniscience lily / like that god is
(09:12:11) (Raleigh) ec says differt
(09:13:07) (Raleigh) if you go for exaltation you will get fried lily
(09:13:20) (Raleigh) follow his example
(09:13:53) (lily) go ahead and believe what you will Raleigh ... that is the fun of it ...
(09:14:10) (Raleigh) its not
(09:16:03) (Raleigh) define hell liliy
(09:16:25) (Raleigh) ok lily / ill be nice
(09:17:50) (Bill) yes Kazu will has many facets one is the fact we have the opportunity to make choices which will govern our lives nothing over rides our will
(09:18:02) (lily) there is no hell ... also illusion
(09:18:29) (Raleigh) ok lily
(09:18:31) (lily) of course unless u create it
(09:18:48) (Raleigh) scripture and cayce say otherwise
(09:18:53) (lily) remember ... you are God ... you can create anything
(09:19:08) (Raleigh) i am part of god
(09:19:35) (lily) so choose to believe what you choose to believe Raleigh ....
(09:19:42) (lily) why do u ask me then
(09:19:50) (Bill) we are children of God ," Gods " in the makeing