Post by WalksInSpirit on Jul 31, 2006 15:17:21 GMT -5
Astrology Chat: 07-31-06
(02:29:30) (ron) ANCIENT MYSTERIES / September 2005
(02:30:14) (ron) When it comes to the question of how old humankind is, there are some problems with standard answers that have been around for the past 200 years.
(02:30:44) (ron) First, each time explorers dig up another shoots arrows at it. In Peru, over 300 burial skeleton, the acceptable timeline has to be redrawn to allow for older and older remains. Second, explorers have found fossil "marks" that are completely outside of any line. A good example of this is a hand print in Glen Rose limestone, which is only found in the Middle Cretaceous period, 110 million years ago!
(02:31:14) (tru_eagle) some say 5 .. few say 10,000 trs
(02:31:53) (ron) This is so impossible a dating that most scientists simply ignore it. Third, we are finding artifacts in which ancient humans are depicted doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment.
(02:32:36) (ron) We have also found artifacts depicting humans interacting with dinosaurs (not the skeletons of dinosaurs, but actual, live, moving dinosaurs). Of course, this is even more impossible than the 110-million-year-old hand print. Painted on a vase found in the remains of ancient Troy is an image of a woman offering a dinosaur food while a man shoots arrows at it.
(02:32:42) (tru_eagle) yes .. a hint of alien tec
(02:33:30) (ron) In Peru, over 300 burial stones found at ancient grave sites depict specific types of dinosaurs (Triceratops, Stegosaurus, and Pterosaurs) in full body form, not skeletons.
(02:33:42) (Blu) That figures we are making pets of it while the guys shoot it
(02:33:52) (ron) Perhaps the most outlandish discovery was made by South African miners who found hundreds of carved spheres in a Precambrian deposit that dates back to no less than 2.8 billion years - yes, that is BILLION, with a "b"! Of course, we believe that there was no intelligent life back then, so these balls are a complete mystery.
(02:33:58) (diane) lol @ Blu
(02:34:05) (DB) i had a dino vision once
(02:34:41) (Blu) I would love to see a picture of those balls
(02:34:47) (ron) i think the writer should have used the word sphere lol
(02:34:54) (Blu) I have a fascination for spheres
(02:35:02) (Blu) LOLOLOL
(02:35:05) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(02:35:09) (diane) i bet you do lolol
(02:35:22) (ron) According to Cayce's reading of the Akashic records, humans, in pure energy form or spirit form, first came to this planet about 4.6 billion years ago. He says that is recorded in the Book of Job, in the passage about the morning stars singing together as the foundations of the Earth are being established.
(02:35:51) (ron) talking about impatient souls
(02:36:05) (ron) But humans did not come into even the slightest three-dimensional form until around 12 million years ago. If this is so, then how did the human hand print show up in a 110-million-year-old piece of limestone?
(02:36:49) (Blu) was it an impression Ron or was it like a drawing or what?
(02:38:46) (Blu) Limestone is not like concrete is it ? Where you can make an impression in it when it's wet?
(02:38:52) (ron) i would say that that substance was still pliable...in a pliable state that was gradually solidifying while the earth was moving from that ethereal state to the solid condition it is now...so, i think that impression gradually hardened
(02:39:05) (Blu) ok
(02:41:57) (ron) so, according to other related text from another school of thought, the earth and humanity are moving upward ethereal state again...like what has been menationed with earlier conversations regarding bodies of light etc
(02:42:34) (tru_eagle) light-souls
(02:42:39) (ron) that school of thought is Theosophy that has been mentioned in the readings
(02:44:35) (ron) we are approaching that ethereal state now with the coming in of the new subraces (?) mentioned in the readings...and thus our contact with those that have passed on the bridge, or veil is being overcome
(02:45:02) (ron) this is indicated also in the Kings Chamber and the open sarcofigus/sp?
(02:46:04) (ron) and telling us the we will understand the meaning of death...and according to what is going on with the earth right now, we are learning some of that the hard way
(02:46:31) (ron) According to Cayce's readings, the first quasi-human presence was on a continent in the Pacific Ocean called Mu or Lemuria. At that time human souls were manifesting as thought forms, not physical bodies. However, he says that many wayward souls pushed their minds and spirits into existing animal bodies (human/animal mixtures).
(02:46:53) (ron) thought forms, not physical bodies
(02:47:23) (ron) The next and more structured form came around 10 million years ago, also in Mu/Lemuria. This was still not a physical body as we know it. Cayce called these forms "root races," meaning something akin to prototypes, experimental devices for Coming out of the fourth dimension into the third with ability to function here.
(02:47:56) (ron) The first two root-race forms were in Mu/Lemuria. (It might be helpful for us to think of these as an astral "body" first and then an etheric "body.")
(02:48:48) (ron) thus, easy to get in and out...but as the earth gradually solidifyed, more diffcult to get out
(02:49:09) (ron) so thus, my predicament lol
(02:49:25) (Lynn) lol
(02:49:30) (ron) The third root-race form was the first truly physical body. However, even this body was not as dense as ours today, says Cayce. This third body form appeared on a continent in the Atlantic Ocean called Atlantis only 210,000 years ago.
(02:50:12) (ron) It was a hermaphroditic body, having both sexual forces within itself, making it able to conceive new bodies from itself. Around 106,000 years ago, the first separate male and female bodies were created. Cayce called this the "first Eden," noting that it was in Poseidia, Atlantis.
(02:50:55) (ron) The Eden of the Bible was between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, which are in modem-day Iraq. The dating of this Eden is difficult, but some Cayce researchers have determined it to be sometime around 12,000 B.C., with Adam dying around 11,070 B.C. at the age of 930.
(02:51:48) (ron) Cayce's fourth root-race body, which is to become the body we use today, began with the biblical Adam and Eve around 12,000 B.C. However, since the oldest fossil evidence for anatomically modem humans is about 130,000 years old (in Africa) and there is evidence for modem humans in the Near East sometime before 90,000 years ago, we have to say that a 12,000 B.C.
(02:52:27) (ron) Adam is a newer prototype of a human form that had been evolving for some time. One of Cayce's readings (364-5) indicates that Adam and Eve were separated from the masses of hominids to form a more perfect body type for a special group of humans, who were going to help all humanity regain their original cosmic consciousness and spirit nature.
(02:53:50) (ron) were separated from the masses of hominids ...in my thinking these types were overshadowed by special souls preparing the that body for habitation...but that is my interpretation
(02:54:18) (ron) thus genetic changes were being imposed
(02:54:50) (ron) . Using these modified bodies. the incarnating souls would be better able to awaken to their divine nature and origin.
(02:54:57) (ky-mike) evolving
(02:55:27) (ron) Around 10,500 to 10,300 B.C., surgical operations were being done in Egyptian temples to remove a chakra in the thigh of human bodies, says Cayce. This chakra was so earthy that it was a handicap to greater consciousness and higher vibrations. Such a practice is clearly an example of how even the Adamic body was being continually adjusted to improve the condition of the incarnating mind and soul.
(02:55:49) (ron) that is new to me...never saw that before
(02:56:05) (ron) remove a chakra in the thigh
(02:56:08) (diane) Weird, huh?
(02:56:13) (Blu) me either Ron
(02:56:18) (Blu) but it makes sense
(02:56:38) (Lynn) Could it relate to the wresstling angel who tochedJacobs thigh
(02:56:44) (Blu) the perfected bodies were becoming contaminated with the earthly ones not perfected yet
(02:56:58) (Blu) wow Lynn, good thought
(02:57:04) (diane) wow!
(02:57:10) (Blu) I always wondered why that was a big deal
(02:57:22) (Lynn) and they used to swear touching the thigh, I think it was
(02:57:27) (Lynn) Abrahm's servant
(02:57:31) (Blu) amazing
(02:58:10) (ron) but i think that the timing is way off...that took place around 10,000 years beforee Jacob...but i could be wrong there
(02:58:24) (Lynn) carry over_
(02:58:31) (Lynn) ?
(02:58:42) (Blu) Ron there are still bodies being born that are contaminated
(02:58:46) (ron) could be lynn
(02:59:01) (ron) yes blu...i understand
(02:59:04) (Blu) people don't talk about the surgieries done on babies born with wierd defects
(02:59:08) (Lynn) There is still the reptilian brain effects
(02:59:18) (ron) right lynn
(02:59:19) (Blu) some have tails and even other stranger things
(02:59:27) (Blu) gills
(02:59:34) (ron) people like me still running around lol
(02:59:39) (Blu) LOL
(02:59:41) (Lynn) mermaids in Noah's time
(02:59:49) (Blu) some of them just don't survive
(02:59:55) (ron) remove a chakra in the thigh
(02:59:59) (ron) oops
(03:00:15) (ky-mike) yea an jesus gets back .. that will all b prolog !
(03:00:23) (ron) . The Cayce readings state that "the death of the Son of Man as a "man" was another major stage along a long and painful resurrection path back to spirit and energy. (378-14)
(03:00:56) (ron) In the Cayce story, Mu/Lemuria was destroyed by major upheavals in the Earth's crust around the year 50,000 B.C. Atlantis was also harmed by this convulsion but survived, though losing much of its original technological prowess.
(03:01:34) (ron) i'm passing this to WIS regarding his research...but instead of me just emailing it to him i thought to share this with the rest of you
(03:01:58) (ky-mike) thank-you
(03:02:06) (ron) Its continent also broke into five major islands at this time. Atlantis suffered again during a massive inundation (possibly Noah's flood), around 28,000 B.C. (470-22) Cayce's readings indicate that the population of the Earth at this time was about 133 million humans. There were also some "things," as Cayce called them.
(03:02:11) (Lynn) ty
(03:02:15) (Blu) this is good prep work to get Dianes mind ready for when we blow it!
(03:02:19) (ron) He explained that the Atlanteans used "automatons" for menial labor and sexual gratification.
(03:02:54) (diane) ha ha ha Blu!
(03:02:59) (ky-mike) ty blu
(03:03:04) (ron) These automatons were soulless, zombie-like beings. Using their minds, early Atlanteans were capable of projecting these things into material form. In addition to the automatons, there were those creatures that were half animal, half human - leftovers from the Mu/Lemuria premature immersion into existing matter.
(03:03:08) (ron) lol blu
(03:03:13) (Lynn) then I protested the abuse of things, now Iprotest the abuse of animals. lol
(03:03:44) (ron) Eventually, Atlantis was completely destroyed in an upheaval around 10,014 B.C., which was accompanied by a 30-degree shift in the Earth's poles. Cayce marks the final destruction of Atlantis as the end of the old world, similar in some ways to how the Bible separates the pre-flood era of Noah from the post-flood era.
(03:04:17) (ron) The Bible says that prior to the flood, Earth was populated by the Sons of God (hermaphroditic beings of great power) , men, the daughters of men, and the Nephilim, which were giant offspring from the mating of the Sons of God with the daughters of men.
(03:04:31) (ron) wow that is something
(03:04:58) (diane) Sure is weird
(03:05:04) (ron) After the Noah flood, there were only men, no gods or Nephilim.
(03:05:06) (Blu) I think similar beings are still being born, and I do not mean drag queens
(03:05:18) (ron) lol blu
(03:05:46) (diane) you trying to be funny Blu?
(03:06:22) (Blu) I saw this guy on tv that created the M theory and something about him was bugging me, then I realized he sounded like a woman, and he had a lot of femine characteristics and very manly looking
(03:06:29) (Lynn) I have one as a caller
(03:06:32) (Blu) he is an absolute genuise
(03:06:48) (Blu) and way beyond most humans in intelect
(03:06:48) (Lynn) has both genitalia
(03:07:26) (Blu) I think souls incarnate that have stronger memories of those days and they bring those traits with them
(03:07:32) (Lynn) The guy who is my client, it is pathetic
(03:07:44) (ron) As for our future, Nostradamus wrote to his son Caesar that he saw physical life continuing to the year 3797 A.D. The biblical Revelation states that the next era will be one of peace and spiritual awakening, in which all the influences of evil are bound for as a thousand years. Cayce's readings confirm this.
(03:07:46) (diane) yes, that i saw on Disc. Health channel
(03:08:04) (Blu) that would be tough, I can't believe they did not choose a sex for him at birth, they usually do and they operate
(03:08:07) (diane) about the hermaphrodite kids
(03:08:23) (diane) right, Blu
(03:08:25) (Lynn) they didn't
(03:08:48) (ron) However, the transition to the coming golden age is marked by another pole shift and many Earth changes. Cayce's readings say that the ancient lands of Atlantis will rise again, while other lands will return to the sea. He says the culture will continue to move westward, toward Asia and a very different China than we know today.
(03:08:48) (diane) yikes
(03:08:53) (Blu) he can still do it can't he?
(03:09:05) (Lynn) mine, her grandfather expected her to do the work of a man because he thought grandson was a man
(03:09:38) (ron) Cayce's readings also speak of a soon-to-come, if not already here, fifth root-race body that will help us more than our current bodies. This body will have more luminescence to it and be lighter, less dense, and healthier, living much longer than our present bodies. It will also have more of the higher chakras activated, making for higher consciousness and vibrations.
(03:10:10) (Blu) those bodies have phosoforus in them where we don't(03:11:07) (ron) In conclusion, billions of years ago some of God's created souls visited this world of three dimensions. Millions of years ago they immersed themselves into matter and form, losing their awareness of the realms of energy, spirit, and the cosmos.
(03:11:23) (diane) read an article that the body has changed greatly since civil war era. bigger, stronger, healthier
(03:11:33) (ron) In the next few hundred years, they will regain the awareness’s and higher vibrations, eventually lifting themselves out of matter and form into pure energy and formlessness, becoming - once again one with the cosmic consciousness.
(03:12:07) (ron) A few billion years to an ageless, eternal mind and form into pure energy and formlessness, becoming once again one with the cosmic consciousness. A few billion years to an ageless, eternal mind and spirit is a small amount of time, but to the projected soul trapped in the evolution of matter, it has been a long journey. Fortunately, the best part of the journey lies just ahead of us.
(03:12:18) (ron) END....take a little chat break
(03:12:43) (Blu) it seems like a long time to us, but it isn't, cause time is an illusion
(03:12:44) (diane) what is a root race? thought i knew, but now am confused
(03:12:58) (Blu) root means begining
(03:13:07) (Blu) it's a start of something
(03:16:14) (ron) apparently, to my thinking it is the next level of development...in Theosophy, they say this 5th root race is in its upward turn...everything moves ahead races, earth, solar system, galaxie etc...can't get caught behind
(03:24:53) (ron) THE LYDEN GLAND (Cells of Leydig)
(03:25:28) (ron) Lyden means sealed. This is the gland in which gestation takes place at conception. This gland, located in and above the gonads, is the starting point of the soul's activity. It is the control center, the “open door" through which the soul may go to higher realms of accomplishment. When the soul has lost touch with God, this center, being the center of fertility, becomes sterile.
(03:26:12) (ron) . The soul out of touch with its Maker becomes confused. The seeds of self-doubt spring up like weeds. An intense feeling of being alone and persecuted is the usual fate of such a soul. Overwhelming bouts of depression descend on him, violent enough to take the form of schizophrenia.
(03:26:48) (ron) According to the readings of Edgar Cayce, this deterioration is a result of a malfunctioning of the soul, expressing itself through the endocrine glands. This is directly related to its purpose in the earth. Mind is the builder, guided by the spirit.
(03:27:12) (ron) What is spirit? The force which directs our life! God's spirit, or the Devil's! Some doctors have stated that all schizophrenics are preoccupied solely with themselves. Could this illness possibly have its origin in a morbid self-preoccupation? If it can, then self-preoccupation is powerful enough to separate a soul from God.
(03:27:46) (ron) To be separated from God is also to lose touch with one's fellow man, which means the loss of that rapport with others which is essential to a sense of balanced well-being. This separation chokes and destroys the life force which supplies all peace and harmony within.
(03:27:52) (Lynn) I know many schizophrenics and I have schizoaffective
(03:28:24) (ron) This emphasizes even more urgently the importance of meditation and prayer, which govern the transformation so necessary to most of us. For all of us suffer from some form of selfishness, and which of us is not slightly psychotic at times? The forces released in meditation open spiritual centers which give us insight into our true nature.
(03:34:06) (ron) This emphasizes even more urgently the importance of meditation and prayer, which govern the transformation so necessary to most of us. For all of us suffer from some form of selfishness, and which of us is not slightly psychotic at times? The forces released in meditation open spiritual centers which give us insight into our true nature.
(03:34:44) (ron) This stimulates better and clearer thinking. These constructive thoughts then stimulate the glands to release constructive, healing hormones in proportion to the body's needs. Thus does the healing of the body, the mind, and the spirit take place.
(03:35:14) (ron) All healing is of God, and comes from within. Whether it be a prayer, a poultice, medication or surgery; all are for the purpose of creating a harmonious balance within the body so that the forces of God within may heal. For who planted the herbs or plants that bring healing? Who gave wisdom to the mind of man? Who gave skill to the surgeon's hand? Who created the mind of man in His image so that healing would be possible? God and God alone.
(03:36:03) (ron) Remember, we have referred here to the mind of the soul; not the brain through which the conscious mind operates in the physical body.
(03:36:20) (ron) When meditation is used as the healing agent, the beneficent effects may come slowly, husbanded by the increased sensitivity of mind and spirit; but meanwhile it strengthens the individual by distributing a proper balance of hormone activity throughout the endocrine gland system.
(03:37:08) (ron) Stimulated by this spiritualization, the lyden or Leydig assumes its rightful place and influence, bringing to the individual the best qualities of the male and female. The man will develop the female virtues of gentleness, patience, love, tenderness, graciousness, generosity and moral strength. The woman will develop the male virtues of courage, practicality, order, logic, resoluteness and greater intellectual abilities.
(03:37:44) (ron) The sublimation of purely physical desires must eventually be achieved by all of us, if we are to make it possible for the Holy Ghost to manifest through us, on another level of expression, as channels for the Christ Spirit.
(03:38:06) (ron) END of this center
(03:38:12) (ron) should we stop for today?
(03:38:53) (Blu) yes
(03:39:05) (ron) ok...good enough...we will continue with the Adrenals next week
(03:39:54) (diane) I like this approach to the centers, ron. brings them into a new light
(03:40:04) (Blu) I think that staement has a lot of truth and possiblites in it
(03:40:30) (diane) relates them to spirituality in a more obvious way
(03:40:33) (ron) i didn't know that...but still those words were difficult to take for anyone...i saw some of myself in there also
(03:40:46) (Blu) I did too!
(03:40:48) (Blu) me that is
(03:41:15) (diane) feeling a separation from God?
(03:41:29) (Blu) we want what we want when we want it, like screaming infants!
(03:41:39) (Blu) preoccupied with self
(03:41:54) (diane) I have to get things right first thing in the morning, before my feet hit the floor
(03:42:13) (Blu) good plan Diane
(03:42:16) (diane) or i'm off into self-o-rama world
(03:42:22) (Blu) LOL
(03:42:26) (Blu) that is a good one
(03:42:30) (Blu) got to remeber that
(03:43:01) (ron) some of that is true for me...i've been depressed all my life and lived with it...but when i meditate now adays i get helpful responses before i leave my meditations
(03:44:14) (Blu) we all want to think we are victims, but we aren't. We can control who we are, and that is a lot of responcibility
(03:44:31) (Blu) and we do not want to be responcible!
(03:44:57) (Blu) we are listening to the wrong record in our heads
(03:45:03) (ron) and don't want to admit it to ourselves
(02:30:14) (ron) When it comes to the question of how old humankind is, there are some problems with standard answers that have been around for the past 200 years.
(02:30:44) (ron) First, each time explorers dig up another shoots arrows at it. In Peru, over 300 burial skeleton, the acceptable timeline has to be redrawn to allow for older and older remains. Second, explorers have found fossil "marks" that are completely outside of any line. A good example of this is a hand print in Glen Rose limestone, which is only found in the Middle Cretaceous period, 110 million years ago!
(02:31:14) (tru_eagle) some say 5 .. few say 10,000 trs
(02:31:53) (ron) This is so impossible a dating that most scientists simply ignore it. Third, we are finding artifacts in which ancient humans are depicted doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment.
(02:32:36) (ron) We have also found artifacts depicting humans interacting with dinosaurs (not the skeletons of dinosaurs, but actual, live, moving dinosaurs). Of course, this is even more impossible than the 110-million-year-old hand print. Painted on a vase found in the remains of ancient Troy is an image of a woman offering a dinosaur food while a man shoots arrows at it.
(02:32:42) (tru_eagle) yes .. a hint of alien tec
(02:33:30) (ron) In Peru, over 300 burial stones found at ancient grave sites depict specific types of dinosaurs (Triceratops, Stegosaurus, and Pterosaurs) in full body form, not skeletons.
(02:33:42) (Blu) That figures we are making pets of it while the guys shoot it
(02:33:52) (ron) Perhaps the most outlandish discovery was made by South African miners who found hundreds of carved spheres in a Precambrian deposit that dates back to no less than 2.8 billion years - yes, that is BILLION, with a "b"! Of course, we believe that there was no intelligent life back then, so these balls are a complete mystery.
(02:33:58) (diane) lol @ Blu
(02:34:05) (DB) i had a dino vision once
(02:34:41) (Blu) I would love to see a picture of those balls
(02:34:47) (ron) i think the writer should have used the word sphere lol
(02:34:54) (Blu) I have a fascination for spheres
(02:35:02) (Blu) LOLOLOL
(02:35:05) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(02:35:09) (diane) i bet you do lolol
(02:35:22) (ron) According to Cayce's reading of the Akashic records, humans, in pure energy form or spirit form, first came to this planet about 4.6 billion years ago. He says that is recorded in the Book of Job, in the passage about the morning stars singing together as the foundations of the Earth are being established.
(02:35:51) (ron) talking about impatient souls
(02:36:05) (ron) But humans did not come into even the slightest three-dimensional form until around 12 million years ago. If this is so, then how did the human hand print show up in a 110-million-year-old piece of limestone?
(02:36:49) (Blu) was it an impression Ron or was it like a drawing or what?
(02:38:46) (Blu) Limestone is not like concrete is it ? Where you can make an impression in it when it's wet?
(02:38:52) (ron) i would say that that substance was still pliable...in a pliable state that was gradually solidifying while the earth was moving from that ethereal state to the solid condition it is now...so, i think that impression gradually hardened
(02:39:05) (Blu) ok
(02:41:57) (ron) so, according to other related text from another school of thought, the earth and humanity are moving upward ethereal state again...like what has been menationed with earlier conversations regarding bodies of light etc
(02:42:34) (tru_eagle) light-souls
(02:42:39) (ron) that school of thought is Theosophy that has been mentioned in the readings
(02:44:35) (ron) we are approaching that ethereal state now with the coming in of the new subraces (?) mentioned in the readings...and thus our contact with those that have passed on the bridge, or veil is being overcome
(02:45:02) (ron) this is indicated also in the Kings Chamber and the open sarcofigus/sp?
(02:46:04) (ron) and telling us the we will understand the meaning of death...and according to what is going on with the earth right now, we are learning some of that the hard way
(02:46:31) (ron) According to Cayce's readings, the first quasi-human presence was on a continent in the Pacific Ocean called Mu or Lemuria. At that time human souls were manifesting as thought forms, not physical bodies. However, he says that many wayward souls pushed their minds and spirits into existing animal bodies (human/animal mixtures).
(02:46:53) (ron) thought forms, not physical bodies
(02:47:23) (ron) The next and more structured form came around 10 million years ago, also in Mu/Lemuria. This was still not a physical body as we know it. Cayce called these forms "root races," meaning something akin to prototypes, experimental devices for Coming out of the fourth dimension into the third with ability to function here.
(02:47:56) (ron) The first two root-race forms were in Mu/Lemuria. (It might be helpful for us to think of these as an astral "body" first and then an etheric "body.")
(02:48:48) (ron) thus, easy to get in and out...but as the earth gradually solidifyed, more diffcult to get out
(02:49:09) (ron) so thus, my predicament lol
(02:49:25) (Lynn) lol
(02:49:30) (ron) The third root-race form was the first truly physical body. However, even this body was not as dense as ours today, says Cayce. This third body form appeared on a continent in the Atlantic Ocean called Atlantis only 210,000 years ago.
(02:50:12) (ron) It was a hermaphroditic body, having both sexual forces within itself, making it able to conceive new bodies from itself. Around 106,000 years ago, the first separate male and female bodies were created. Cayce called this the "first Eden," noting that it was in Poseidia, Atlantis.
(02:50:55) (ron) The Eden of the Bible was between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, which are in modem-day Iraq. The dating of this Eden is difficult, but some Cayce researchers have determined it to be sometime around 12,000 B.C., with Adam dying around 11,070 B.C. at the age of 930.
(02:51:48) (ron) Cayce's fourth root-race body, which is to become the body we use today, began with the biblical Adam and Eve around 12,000 B.C. However, since the oldest fossil evidence for anatomically modem humans is about 130,000 years old (in Africa) and there is evidence for modem humans in the Near East sometime before 90,000 years ago, we have to say that a 12,000 B.C.
(02:52:27) (ron) Adam is a newer prototype of a human form that had been evolving for some time. One of Cayce's readings (364-5) indicates that Adam and Eve were separated from the masses of hominids to form a more perfect body type for a special group of humans, who were going to help all humanity regain their original cosmic consciousness and spirit nature.
(02:53:50) (ron) were separated from the masses of hominids ...in my thinking these types were overshadowed by special souls preparing the that body for habitation...but that is my interpretation
(02:54:18) (ron) thus genetic changes were being imposed
(02:54:50) (ron) . Using these modified bodies. the incarnating souls would be better able to awaken to their divine nature and origin.
(02:54:57) (ky-mike) evolving
(02:55:27) (ron) Around 10,500 to 10,300 B.C., surgical operations were being done in Egyptian temples to remove a chakra in the thigh of human bodies, says Cayce. This chakra was so earthy that it was a handicap to greater consciousness and higher vibrations. Such a practice is clearly an example of how even the Adamic body was being continually adjusted to improve the condition of the incarnating mind and soul.
(02:55:49) (ron) that is new to me...never saw that before
(02:56:05) (ron) remove a chakra in the thigh
(02:56:08) (diane) Weird, huh?
(02:56:13) (Blu) me either Ron
(02:56:18) (Blu) but it makes sense
(02:56:38) (Lynn) Could it relate to the wresstling angel who tochedJacobs thigh
(02:56:44) (Blu) the perfected bodies were becoming contaminated with the earthly ones not perfected yet
(02:56:58) (Blu) wow Lynn, good thought
(02:57:04) (diane) wow!
(02:57:10) (Blu) I always wondered why that was a big deal
(02:57:22) (Lynn) and they used to swear touching the thigh, I think it was
(02:57:27) (Lynn) Abrahm's servant
(02:57:31) (Blu) amazing
(02:58:10) (ron) but i think that the timing is way off...that took place around 10,000 years beforee Jacob...but i could be wrong there
(02:58:24) (Lynn) carry over_
(02:58:31) (Lynn) ?
(02:58:42) (Blu) Ron there are still bodies being born that are contaminated
(02:58:46) (ron) could be lynn
(02:59:01) (ron) yes blu...i understand
(02:59:04) (Blu) people don't talk about the surgieries done on babies born with wierd defects
(02:59:08) (Lynn) There is still the reptilian brain effects
(02:59:18) (ron) right lynn
(02:59:19) (Blu) some have tails and even other stranger things
(02:59:27) (Blu) gills
(02:59:34) (ron) people like me still running around lol
(02:59:39) (Blu) LOL
(02:59:41) (Lynn) mermaids in Noah's time
(02:59:49) (Blu) some of them just don't survive
(02:59:55) (ron) remove a chakra in the thigh
(02:59:59) (ron) oops
(03:00:15) (ky-mike) yea an jesus gets back .. that will all b prolog !
(03:00:23) (ron) . The Cayce readings state that "the death of the Son of Man as a "man" was another major stage along a long and painful resurrection path back to spirit and energy. (378-14)
(03:00:56) (ron) In the Cayce story, Mu/Lemuria was destroyed by major upheavals in the Earth's crust around the year 50,000 B.C. Atlantis was also harmed by this convulsion but survived, though losing much of its original technological prowess.
(03:01:34) (ron) i'm passing this to WIS regarding his research...but instead of me just emailing it to him i thought to share this with the rest of you
(03:01:58) (ky-mike) thank-you
(03:02:06) (ron) Its continent also broke into five major islands at this time. Atlantis suffered again during a massive inundation (possibly Noah's flood), around 28,000 B.C. (470-22) Cayce's readings indicate that the population of the Earth at this time was about 133 million humans. There were also some "things," as Cayce called them.
(03:02:11) (Lynn) ty
(03:02:15) (Blu) this is good prep work to get Dianes mind ready for when we blow it!
(03:02:19) (ron) He explained that the Atlanteans used "automatons" for menial labor and sexual gratification.
(03:02:54) (diane) ha ha ha Blu!
(03:02:59) (ky-mike) ty blu
(03:03:04) (ron) These automatons were soulless, zombie-like beings. Using their minds, early Atlanteans were capable of projecting these things into material form. In addition to the automatons, there were those creatures that were half animal, half human - leftovers from the Mu/Lemuria premature immersion into existing matter.
(03:03:08) (ron) lol blu
(03:03:13) (Lynn) then I protested the abuse of things, now Iprotest the abuse of animals. lol
(03:03:44) (ron) Eventually, Atlantis was completely destroyed in an upheaval around 10,014 B.C., which was accompanied by a 30-degree shift in the Earth's poles. Cayce marks the final destruction of Atlantis as the end of the old world, similar in some ways to how the Bible separates the pre-flood era of Noah from the post-flood era.
(03:04:17) (ron) The Bible says that prior to the flood, Earth was populated by the Sons of God (hermaphroditic beings of great power) , men, the daughters of men, and the Nephilim, which were giant offspring from the mating of the Sons of God with the daughters of men.
(03:04:31) (ron) wow that is something
(03:04:58) (diane) Sure is weird
(03:05:04) (ron) After the Noah flood, there were only men, no gods or Nephilim.
(03:05:06) (Blu) I think similar beings are still being born, and I do not mean drag queens
(03:05:18) (ron) lol blu
(03:05:46) (diane) you trying to be funny Blu?
(03:06:22) (Blu) I saw this guy on tv that created the M theory and something about him was bugging me, then I realized he sounded like a woman, and he had a lot of femine characteristics and very manly looking
(03:06:29) (Lynn) I have one as a caller
(03:06:32) (Blu) he is an absolute genuise
(03:06:48) (Blu) and way beyond most humans in intelect
(03:06:48) (Lynn) has both genitalia
(03:07:26) (Blu) I think souls incarnate that have stronger memories of those days and they bring those traits with them
(03:07:32) (Lynn) The guy who is my client, it is pathetic
(03:07:44) (ron) As for our future, Nostradamus wrote to his son Caesar that he saw physical life continuing to the year 3797 A.D. The biblical Revelation states that the next era will be one of peace and spiritual awakening, in which all the influences of evil are bound for as a thousand years. Cayce's readings confirm this.
(03:07:46) (diane) yes, that i saw on Disc. Health channel
(03:08:04) (Blu) that would be tough, I can't believe they did not choose a sex for him at birth, they usually do and they operate
(03:08:07) (diane) about the hermaphrodite kids
(03:08:23) (diane) right, Blu
(03:08:25) (Lynn) they didn't
(03:08:48) (ron) However, the transition to the coming golden age is marked by another pole shift and many Earth changes. Cayce's readings say that the ancient lands of Atlantis will rise again, while other lands will return to the sea. He says the culture will continue to move westward, toward Asia and a very different China than we know today.
(03:08:48) (diane) yikes
(03:08:53) (Blu) he can still do it can't he?
(03:09:05) (Lynn) mine, her grandfather expected her to do the work of a man because he thought grandson was a man
(03:09:38) (ron) Cayce's readings also speak of a soon-to-come, if not already here, fifth root-race body that will help us more than our current bodies. This body will have more luminescence to it and be lighter, less dense, and healthier, living much longer than our present bodies. It will also have more of the higher chakras activated, making for higher consciousness and vibrations.
(03:10:10) (Blu) those bodies have phosoforus in them where we don't(03:11:07) (ron) In conclusion, billions of years ago some of God's created souls visited this world of three dimensions. Millions of years ago they immersed themselves into matter and form, losing their awareness of the realms of energy, spirit, and the cosmos.
(03:11:23) (diane) read an article that the body has changed greatly since civil war era. bigger, stronger, healthier
(03:11:33) (ron) In the next few hundred years, they will regain the awareness’s and higher vibrations, eventually lifting themselves out of matter and form into pure energy and formlessness, becoming - once again one with the cosmic consciousness.
(03:12:07) (ron) A few billion years to an ageless, eternal mind and form into pure energy and formlessness, becoming once again one with the cosmic consciousness. A few billion years to an ageless, eternal mind and spirit is a small amount of time, but to the projected soul trapped in the evolution of matter, it has been a long journey. Fortunately, the best part of the journey lies just ahead of us.
(03:12:18) (ron) END....take a little chat break
(03:12:43) (Blu) it seems like a long time to us, but it isn't, cause time is an illusion
(03:12:44) (diane) what is a root race? thought i knew, but now am confused
(03:12:58) (Blu) root means begining
(03:13:07) (Blu) it's a start of something
(03:16:14) (ron) apparently, to my thinking it is the next level of development...in Theosophy, they say this 5th root race is in its upward turn...everything moves ahead races, earth, solar system, galaxie etc...can't get caught behind
(03:24:53) (ron) THE LYDEN GLAND (Cells of Leydig)
(03:25:28) (ron) Lyden means sealed. This is the gland in which gestation takes place at conception. This gland, located in and above the gonads, is the starting point of the soul's activity. It is the control center, the “open door" through which the soul may go to higher realms of accomplishment. When the soul has lost touch with God, this center, being the center of fertility, becomes sterile.
(03:26:12) (ron) . The soul out of touch with its Maker becomes confused. The seeds of self-doubt spring up like weeds. An intense feeling of being alone and persecuted is the usual fate of such a soul. Overwhelming bouts of depression descend on him, violent enough to take the form of schizophrenia.
(03:26:48) (ron) According to the readings of Edgar Cayce, this deterioration is a result of a malfunctioning of the soul, expressing itself through the endocrine glands. This is directly related to its purpose in the earth. Mind is the builder, guided by the spirit.
(03:27:12) (ron) What is spirit? The force which directs our life! God's spirit, or the Devil's! Some doctors have stated that all schizophrenics are preoccupied solely with themselves. Could this illness possibly have its origin in a morbid self-preoccupation? If it can, then self-preoccupation is powerful enough to separate a soul from God.
(03:27:46) (ron) To be separated from God is also to lose touch with one's fellow man, which means the loss of that rapport with others which is essential to a sense of balanced well-being. This separation chokes and destroys the life force which supplies all peace and harmony within.
(03:27:52) (Lynn) I know many schizophrenics and I have schizoaffective
(03:28:24) (ron) This emphasizes even more urgently the importance of meditation and prayer, which govern the transformation so necessary to most of us. For all of us suffer from some form of selfishness, and which of us is not slightly psychotic at times? The forces released in meditation open spiritual centers which give us insight into our true nature.
(03:34:06) (ron) This emphasizes even more urgently the importance of meditation and prayer, which govern the transformation so necessary to most of us. For all of us suffer from some form of selfishness, and which of us is not slightly psychotic at times? The forces released in meditation open spiritual centers which give us insight into our true nature.
(03:34:44) (ron) This stimulates better and clearer thinking. These constructive thoughts then stimulate the glands to release constructive, healing hormones in proportion to the body's needs. Thus does the healing of the body, the mind, and the spirit take place.
(03:35:14) (ron) All healing is of God, and comes from within. Whether it be a prayer, a poultice, medication or surgery; all are for the purpose of creating a harmonious balance within the body so that the forces of God within may heal. For who planted the herbs or plants that bring healing? Who gave wisdom to the mind of man? Who gave skill to the surgeon's hand? Who created the mind of man in His image so that healing would be possible? God and God alone.
(03:36:03) (ron) Remember, we have referred here to the mind of the soul; not the brain through which the conscious mind operates in the physical body.
(03:36:20) (ron) When meditation is used as the healing agent, the beneficent effects may come slowly, husbanded by the increased sensitivity of mind and spirit; but meanwhile it strengthens the individual by distributing a proper balance of hormone activity throughout the endocrine gland system.
(03:37:08) (ron) Stimulated by this spiritualization, the lyden or Leydig assumes its rightful place and influence, bringing to the individual the best qualities of the male and female. The man will develop the female virtues of gentleness, patience, love, tenderness, graciousness, generosity and moral strength. The woman will develop the male virtues of courage, practicality, order, logic, resoluteness and greater intellectual abilities.
(03:37:44) (ron) The sublimation of purely physical desires must eventually be achieved by all of us, if we are to make it possible for the Holy Ghost to manifest through us, on another level of expression, as channels for the Christ Spirit.
(03:38:06) (ron) END of this center
(03:38:12) (ron) should we stop for today?
(03:38:53) (Blu) yes
(03:39:05) (ron) ok...good enough...we will continue with the Adrenals next week
(03:39:54) (diane) I like this approach to the centers, ron. brings them into a new light
(03:40:04) (Blu) I think that staement has a lot of truth and possiblites in it
(03:40:30) (diane) relates them to spirituality in a more obvious way
(03:40:33) (ron) i didn't know that...but still those words were difficult to take for anyone...i saw some of myself in there also
(03:40:46) (Blu) I did too!
(03:40:48) (Blu) me that is
(03:41:15) (diane) feeling a separation from God?
(03:41:29) (Blu) we want what we want when we want it, like screaming infants!
(03:41:39) (Blu) preoccupied with self
(03:41:54) (diane) I have to get things right first thing in the morning, before my feet hit the floor
(03:42:13) (Blu) good plan Diane
(03:42:16) (diane) or i'm off into self-o-rama world
(03:42:22) (Blu) LOL
(03:42:26) (Blu) that is a good one
(03:42:30) (Blu) got to remeber that
(03:43:01) (ron) some of that is true for me...i've been depressed all my life and lived with it...but when i meditate now adays i get helpful responses before i leave my meditations
(03:44:14) (Blu) we all want to think we are victims, but we aren't. We can control who we are, and that is a lot of responcibility
(03:44:31) (Blu) and we do not want to be responcible!
(03:44:57) (Blu) we are listening to the wrong record in our heads
(03:45:03) (ron) and don't want to admit it to ourselves
