Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 21, 2005 16:50:10 GMT -5
Astrology Chat: 11-21-05
(02:16:04) (ron) SAGITTARIUS - "I SEE THE GOAL. I REACH THAT GOAL AND THEN I SEE ANOTHER"
(02:16:46) (ron) THE GREAT WHEEL OF INCARNATION
(02:17:02) (ron) May these words carry meaning to the heart and mind of the disciple.
(02:17:22) (ron) It is said that Sagittarius governs human evolution, for the sun was in this sign when the Hierarchy began its Approach in order to stimulate the forms of life upon our planet.
(02:18:25) (ron) Again and again, we reenter the cycle of reincarnation through the sign Pisces and find our way around the great wheel until the experience of change and of mutability and the establishing of the transmutation process carry our consciousness from the instinctual and intellectual stages to the faint beginnings of the intuitive processes in Gemini.
(02:19:05) (ron) The one upon the reversing wheel in Gemini becomes more and more aware of the intuition, and increasingly under the influence of the "Brothers who live in the Light," as the twins Castor and Pollux, the two brightest stars in the constellation Gemini, are sometimes called. The light of the personality (Castor) dims as the light of the soul (Pollux)
(02:19:44) (ron) waxes. The fluidity of Pisces and the undeveloped Gemini gives place to the responsiveness of the personality to soul impression and consequent stabilizing of the life on the physical plane.
(02:20:22) (ron) Under Sagittarius influence, the ordinary person begins to demonstrate the tendency to become more focused, and the fluidity and relative negativity of Piscean energies become concentrated on the attainment of that which is desired. The person demonstrates one-pointed selfish instincts and though they may be, for instance, friendly and
(02:21:00) (ron) kind, it is through a desire for popularity. This is a good expression of the individual Sagittarian subject and shows also the tendency of the soul to turn all evil eventually into good. The lessons of life are being learned, and experimentation is going on.
(02:21:28) (ron) As more lives are experienced on the great wheel of incarnation, Sagittarius becomes the sign of the one-pointed disciple. The life of fluid response to matter becomes a focused response to spirit and preparation for initiation in Capricorn. The arrow of the mind is projected unerringly towards the goal.
(02:21:56) (ron) HIGHER TURNS OF THE SPIRAL: THE CENTAUR - THE ARCHER - THE ARROW
(02:22:16) (Raleigh) i like centarz
(02:22:21) (ron) Sagittarius is sometimes depicted as an Archer on a white horse and a study of the meaning of this symbolism will reveal a great deal of inner teaching. This is one of the later ways of portraying this constellation. Earlier, from Atlantean days (the period from which we have inherited what we know about astrology), the sign was depicted by
(02:22:51) (ron) the Centaur—the fabulous animal which was half a man and half a horse. The horse symbolism dominated Atlantean myths and symbols, just as the ram and the lamb are prominently to be found in our modern presentations. This earlier sign of the Centaur stood for the evolution and the development of the human soul, with its human objectives, its selfishness, its identification with form, its desire and its aspirations.
(02:23:49) (ron) The Archer on the white horse, the more strictly Aryan symbol for this sign, signifies our orientation towards a definite goal. We are not part of the horse but are free from identification with it and are the controlling factor. The definite goal of the Centaur, the satisfaction of desire and animal incentives, becomes in the later stages the goal of
(02:24:30) (ron) initiation, which meets with satisfaction in Capricorn, after the preliminary work has been done in Sagittarius. The keynote of the Centaur is ambition. The keynote of the Archer is aspiration and direction, and both are expressions of human goals but one is of the personality and the other of the soul.
(02:25:05) (ron) From ambition to aspiration, from selfishness to an intense desire for selflessness, from individual one-pointed self-interest in Leo to the one-pointedness of the disciple in Sagittarius and then to initiation in Capricorn.
(02:25:38) (ron) The astrological symbol for Sagittarius used by astrologers is simply the arrow with a fragment of the bow depicted.
(02:25:49) (Zee) question please I´m very familiar with initiation in different mystery schools but what do you mean by initiation
(02:26:08) (ron) graduation
(02:26:19) (Raleigh) like an invitation to a club like
(02:26:20) (ron) The Archer as well as the Centaur have dropped out of the picture because the emphasis or focus of human living today is not based upon the objective outer facts of life upon the physical plane but upon some form of inner focus or emphasis, which varies from the many stages of astral ambition to spiritual aspiration, and from the activities of the lower mind bent upon selfish interest to the illumination of the same mind through focus upon the soul.
(02:26:21) (Zee) initiaion in Capricorn what does this mean, please
(02:26:34) (ron) when we get there...read on
(02:26:47) (Zee) ok, ron, yes I understand now
(02:26:48) (ron) The Archer as well as the Centaur have dropped out of the picture because the emphasis or focus of human living today is not based upon the objective outer facts of life upon the physical plane but upon some form of inner focus or emphasis, which varies from the many stages of astral ambition to spiritual aspiration, and from the activities of the lower mind bent upon selfish interest to the illumination of the same mind through focus upon the soul.
(02:27:56) (ron) The bow and arrow represent freedom or one-pointedness—the shaft of the arrow represents the necessary aspiration which returns to the sender as the arrow of the intuition. Sagittarius is one of the intuitive signs, for only the intuition will suffice to carry a man to the foot of the mountain of initiation in Capricorn. In the final stages of life upon the
(02:28:32) (ron) Mutable Cross, Sagittarius achieves the determination to "direct energy into another way of life and with ardour firm, mount another Cross"—the Cardinal Cross.
(02:29:13) (ron) Each incarnation that we find ourselves under the influence of Sagittarius, it is with the purpose of orienting to some new and higher objective, with the task of refocusing towards a higher goal and with the unfoldment of some basic and directing purpose. These developing purposes may range all the way from purely animal desire, through selfish
(02:29:47) (ron) human ambition, to the struggle of the aspiring disciple or initiate in order to achieve the needed liberation towards which the entire evolutionary process has impelled us.
(02:30:31) (ron) ZODIACAL INFLUENCES
(02:30:49) (ron) The influence of the energies let loose through the various zodiacal signs reveals the unfoldment of the human consciousness:
(02:30:51) (Zee) so the initiate still struggles, struggle of aspriing disciple or initiate, interesting
(02:31:18) (ron) 1. In Cancer, Mass unevolved consciousness presents itself through instinct and desire. Keynote: I desire.
(02:31:32) (Raleigh) well these could work as 1 too zee
(02:31:38) (ron) 2. In Leo, Individual consciousness emerges through intellect, and governing ambition. Keynote: I know.
(02:32:01) (ron) 3. In Sagittarius, Soul consciousness in its early stages unfolds through the use of intuition and aspiration. The first two initiations are covered here. Keynote: I vision.
(02:32:22) (Zee) what is the keynote for Scorpio, please , Ron
(02:32:29) (ron) 4. In Capricorn, Soul consciousness in its later stages is found through Illumination, and governing intuition. Keynote: I realize.
(02:32:53) (ron) 5. In Aquarius, Soul consciousness gives way to Group consciousness using inspiration, and governing service. Keynote: I go forth.
(02:33:17) (ron) 6. Finally, in Pisces, Divine consciousness emerges through Identification, and governing liberation. Keynote: I and the Father are one.
(02:33:46) (Zee) wt.
(02:42:59) (ron) THE TRIANGLE OF LEO - SAGITTARIUS - AQUARIUS
(02:43:29) (ron) Sagittarius is a peculiarly human sign and is connected with the appearance of humanity upon our earth. Three of the zodiacal signs are more closely connected with the human than are any of the others. These are Leo, Sagittarius and Aquarius. They are related to the three aspects of body, soul and spirit.
(02:44:06) (Raleigh) which is which?
(02:44:45) (ron) END...we can start on the Readings and UFO's after the break
(02:44:47) (Zee) Leo body Sagittarius soul Aquarius spirit, Ral
(02:44:54) (Raleigh) k
(02:45:00) (Raleigh) ty zee / :)
(02:47:43) (ron) UNDERSTANDING THE UFO PHENOMENON By Gregory L. Little, Ed.D.
(02:48:07) (ron) One of the most unusual conferences ever held at Virginia Beach is being hosted by the A.R.E., December 2-3, 2005. It is the result of increased public and media interest in the UFO phenomenon, as well as revived interest in those Edgar Cayce readings that specifically mentioned ancient visitations to Earth by extraterrestrials. The conference
(02:48:21) (Zee) I have wondered if UFO might be at least in large part an astral phenomena
(02:48:31) (Zee) I do NOT mean only
(02:48:50) (Raleigh) im not sure
(02:49:00) (ron) i think that everything is a part of everything else
(02:49:05) (Raleigh) see ez and 2kings
(02:49:09) (Zee) I agree
(02:49:15) (Raleigh) firey chariots
(02:49:19) (ron) includes several of the most influential figures in the study of UFOs (ufology) as well as Cayce-oriented speakers who have carefully evaluated Cayce's readings on the ancient world.
(02:49:19) (Zee) maybe the astral provides the rapid travel through galaxies
(02:49:19) (Raleigh) elijah too
(02:49:27) (Raleigh) he took off in 1
(02:49:33) (Zee) the physical is materialized from the astral so it might be
(02:49:36) (Raleigh) ezra as well
(02:49:40) (ky-mike) there trying to get hearings on u fo,s .... in washington
(02:49:46) (ron) The most definitive Cayce reading on ancient visits to Earth by extraterrestrial beings was given in 1938 (1616-1): "Before this we find the entity was in the land now known as the Mexican and Yucatan land It was just before that period when those as from the east had come, and there were the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding
(02:49:49) (Raleigh) he saw the earth ropund btw
(02:49:53) (Raleigh) ezra did
(02:50:42) (ron) that there were other portions of the same land, or those that were visiting from other worlds or planets." The time frame and location of these visits by people "from other worlds or planets" is fairly narrow. It was in the Mayan (Yucatan) region, and it was after Christ's appearance in Palestine.
(02:50:56) (Raleigh) i have hieroglyphs of the atlanian crafts
(02:51:38) (ron) Another 1938 Cayce reading appears to strongly suggest ancient extraterrestrial visitations, but this time it took place in the AtIantean land, around 10,000 B.C. Incredibly, the reading implies that the warning given to the Atlantean priests about the impending destruction of Atlantis could have come from extraterrestrial sources. Furthermore, the need to have the Atlantean records preserved in three locations also appears to have come from the same source:
(02:52:16) (Raleigh) there is no extrateresialz
(02:52:20) (ron) "Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land.
(02:52:20) (Raleigh) ec said so
(02:52:21) (Zee) shades of the Markabian confederacy
(02:52:40) (ron) "There we find the entity was very close to those in authority; being that one
(02:52:58) (ron) who was the keeper of the portals as well as the messages that were received from the visitation of those from the outer spheres, in the latter part of the entity's experience there.
(02:53:17) (Raleigh) hmmmm
(02:53:28) (Raleigh) there are no extraterestialz
(02:53:34) (Raleigh) ec said this
(02:53:38) (Zee) thank you, Ron for those interesting communications
(02:53:40) (ron) "For it was the entity that received the message as to the needs for the dividing of the children of the Law of One for the preservation of the truths of same in other lands.
(02:54:13) (ron) "Hence we find the entity was among those who were as the directors of those expeditions, or the leaving for the many varied lands just before the breaking up of the Atlantean land.
(02:54:39) (ron) "Hence the entity outlined in the most part, it might be said, the expedition guided by Ax-Tell and the ones to the Pyrenees and to the Yucatan and to the land of Og." (1681-1)
(02:55:03) (Raleigh) basque
(02:55:03) (ron) Edgar Cayce also often related that there were elemental beings, which consisted of vibrations (similar to electrical energies). Under some conditions, these vibrational forces could manifest into physical forms. During his youth, Cayce played with these physical beings, which he called fairies (294-128). In other readings (1298-1), he called
(02:55:34) (ron) elementals "the warp [vibrational] and woof [texture] of materiality." Cayce mentioned brownies, pixies, fairies, and gnomes as examples of these materialized forms. These readings have strong similarities to many modem UFO abduction reports, and will be a topic addressed during the conference.
(02:56:22) (ron) UFOLOGY - A SPECTRUM OF THEORIES
(02:56:32) (ky-mike) philip krapf , has 2 great books on it... current !
(02:56:33) (Raleigh) how do they relate
(02:56:42) (ron) The field of ufology emerged not long after the modem wave of UFO reports appeared in 1947, two years after Cayce's death. So many UFO reports were made in America, that the government was forced to address the issue, especially since many reports came from military sources. From 1947 through 1952, the U.s. Air Force investigated 2,344 UFO cases and classified about 17 percent as unidentified. In 1991, the Air Force issued regulation 190-1,
(02:57:05) (Raleigh) he was from idaho
(02:57:14) (Raleigh) the 47 pilot
(02:57:40) (ron) which reported that over 12,500 cases had been officially investigated and that about 5 percent were unexplained. In general, UFO investigators focus on the unexplained cases, which continue to pour in unabated to this day. Quite recently, the Brazilian government has officially released previously unknown documents, which validate both the government's involvement in UFO investigations and the finding that investigators have concluded that many of the
(02:57:42) (Raleigh) that was 1st to report a ufo
(02:58:19) (ron) cases are genuine and inexplicable in conventional terms. Some prominent UFO investigators assert that a government conspiracy has been at the center of an ongoing cover-up, which seeks to hide the fact that the military has recovered the remains of crashed alien craft as well as the aliens inside these craft.
(02:58:39) (Raleigh) rozwell
(02:58:45) (Raleigh) so what
(02:58:59) (ron) While many investigators have become certain that the unexplained UFO reports represent alien craft, others have come to very different conclusions. One interesting background to the modem UFO era is increasing understanding that similar reports have been made throughout all recorded history. This has led to a fascinating range of ideas and
(02:58:59) (Raleigh) big deal
(02:59:38) (Raleigh) in the bible all over
(02:59:46) (Raleigh) ez
(02:59:49) (Raleigh) 2kings
(02:59:54) (ron) theories about UFOs that incorporate spirituality, Native American lore, Earth energies, angels, and neurochemistry. The December 2005 conference will cover the entire spectrum of all these theories with
(03:00:24) (ron) many of the foremost investigators and theorists.
(03:00:36) (Raleigh) billy graham said that ufoz are angelz btw
(03:00:40) (ky-mike) thr paradigum prodject...is trying to get hearing, over 2 hundred sicentest wan to testafy
(02:16:46) (ron) THE GREAT WHEEL OF INCARNATION
(02:17:02) (ron) May these words carry meaning to the heart and mind of the disciple.
(02:17:22) (ron) It is said that Sagittarius governs human evolution, for the sun was in this sign when the Hierarchy began its Approach in order to stimulate the forms of life upon our planet.
(02:18:25) (ron) Again and again, we reenter the cycle of reincarnation through the sign Pisces and find our way around the great wheel until the experience of change and of mutability and the establishing of the transmutation process carry our consciousness from the instinctual and intellectual stages to the faint beginnings of the intuitive processes in Gemini.
(02:19:05) (ron) The one upon the reversing wheel in Gemini becomes more and more aware of the intuition, and increasingly under the influence of the "Brothers who live in the Light," as the twins Castor and Pollux, the two brightest stars in the constellation Gemini, are sometimes called. The light of the personality (Castor) dims as the light of the soul (Pollux)
(02:19:44) (ron) waxes. The fluidity of Pisces and the undeveloped Gemini gives place to the responsiveness of the personality to soul impression and consequent stabilizing of the life on the physical plane.
(02:20:22) (ron) Under Sagittarius influence, the ordinary person begins to demonstrate the tendency to become more focused, and the fluidity and relative negativity of Piscean energies become concentrated on the attainment of that which is desired. The person demonstrates one-pointed selfish instincts and though they may be, for instance, friendly and
(02:21:00) (ron) kind, it is through a desire for popularity. This is a good expression of the individual Sagittarian subject and shows also the tendency of the soul to turn all evil eventually into good. The lessons of life are being learned, and experimentation is going on.
(02:21:28) (ron) As more lives are experienced on the great wheel of incarnation, Sagittarius becomes the sign of the one-pointed disciple. The life of fluid response to matter becomes a focused response to spirit and preparation for initiation in Capricorn. The arrow of the mind is projected unerringly towards the goal.
(02:21:56) (ron) HIGHER TURNS OF THE SPIRAL: THE CENTAUR - THE ARCHER - THE ARROW
(02:22:16) (Raleigh) i like centarz
(02:22:21) (ron) Sagittarius is sometimes depicted as an Archer on a white horse and a study of the meaning of this symbolism will reveal a great deal of inner teaching. This is one of the later ways of portraying this constellation. Earlier, from Atlantean days (the period from which we have inherited what we know about astrology), the sign was depicted by
(02:22:51) (ron) the Centaur—the fabulous animal which was half a man and half a horse. The horse symbolism dominated Atlantean myths and symbols, just as the ram and the lamb are prominently to be found in our modern presentations. This earlier sign of the Centaur stood for the evolution and the development of the human soul, with its human objectives, its selfishness, its identification with form, its desire and its aspirations.
(02:23:49) (ron) The Archer on the white horse, the more strictly Aryan symbol for this sign, signifies our orientation towards a definite goal. We are not part of the horse but are free from identification with it and are the controlling factor. The definite goal of the Centaur, the satisfaction of desire and animal incentives, becomes in the later stages the goal of
(02:24:30) (ron) initiation, which meets with satisfaction in Capricorn, after the preliminary work has been done in Sagittarius. The keynote of the Centaur is ambition. The keynote of the Archer is aspiration and direction, and both are expressions of human goals but one is of the personality and the other of the soul.
(02:25:05) (ron) From ambition to aspiration, from selfishness to an intense desire for selflessness, from individual one-pointed self-interest in Leo to the one-pointedness of the disciple in Sagittarius and then to initiation in Capricorn.
(02:25:38) (ron) The astrological symbol for Sagittarius used by astrologers is simply the arrow with a fragment of the bow depicted.
(02:25:49) (Zee) question please I´m very familiar with initiation in different mystery schools but what do you mean by initiation
(02:26:08) (ron) graduation
(02:26:19) (Raleigh) like an invitation to a club like
(02:26:20) (ron) The Archer as well as the Centaur have dropped out of the picture because the emphasis or focus of human living today is not based upon the objective outer facts of life upon the physical plane but upon some form of inner focus or emphasis, which varies from the many stages of astral ambition to spiritual aspiration, and from the activities of the lower mind bent upon selfish interest to the illumination of the same mind through focus upon the soul.
(02:26:21) (Zee) initiaion in Capricorn what does this mean, please
(02:26:34) (ron) when we get there...read on
(02:26:47) (Zee) ok, ron, yes I understand now
(02:26:48) (ron) The Archer as well as the Centaur have dropped out of the picture because the emphasis or focus of human living today is not based upon the objective outer facts of life upon the physical plane but upon some form of inner focus or emphasis, which varies from the many stages of astral ambition to spiritual aspiration, and from the activities of the lower mind bent upon selfish interest to the illumination of the same mind through focus upon the soul.
(02:27:56) (ron) The bow and arrow represent freedom or one-pointedness—the shaft of the arrow represents the necessary aspiration which returns to the sender as the arrow of the intuition. Sagittarius is one of the intuitive signs, for only the intuition will suffice to carry a man to the foot of the mountain of initiation in Capricorn. In the final stages of life upon the
(02:28:32) (ron) Mutable Cross, Sagittarius achieves the determination to "direct energy into another way of life and with ardour firm, mount another Cross"—the Cardinal Cross.
(02:29:13) (ron) Each incarnation that we find ourselves under the influence of Sagittarius, it is with the purpose of orienting to some new and higher objective, with the task of refocusing towards a higher goal and with the unfoldment of some basic and directing purpose. These developing purposes may range all the way from purely animal desire, through selfish
(02:29:47) (ron) human ambition, to the struggle of the aspiring disciple or initiate in order to achieve the needed liberation towards which the entire evolutionary process has impelled us.
(02:30:31) (ron) ZODIACAL INFLUENCES
(02:30:49) (ron) The influence of the energies let loose through the various zodiacal signs reveals the unfoldment of the human consciousness:
(02:30:51) (Zee) so the initiate still struggles, struggle of aspriing disciple or initiate, interesting
(02:31:18) (ron) 1. In Cancer, Mass unevolved consciousness presents itself through instinct and desire. Keynote: I desire.
(02:31:32) (Raleigh) well these could work as 1 too zee
(02:31:38) (ron) 2. In Leo, Individual consciousness emerges through intellect, and governing ambition. Keynote: I know.
(02:32:01) (ron) 3. In Sagittarius, Soul consciousness in its early stages unfolds through the use of intuition and aspiration. The first two initiations are covered here. Keynote: I vision.
(02:32:22) (Zee) what is the keynote for Scorpio, please , Ron
(02:32:29) (ron) 4. In Capricorn, Soul consciousness in its later stages is found through Illumination, and governing intuition. Keynote: I realize.
(02:32:53) (ron) 5. In Aquarius, Soul consciousness gives way to Group consciousness using inspiration, and governing service. Keynote: I go forth.
(02:33:17) (ron) 6. Finally, in Pisces, Divine consciousness emerges through Identification, and governing liberation. Keynote: I and the Father are one.
(02:33:46) (Zee) wt.
(02:42:59) (ron) THE TRIANGLE OF LEO - SAGITTARIUS - AQUARIUS
(02:43:29) (ron) Sagittarius is a peculiarly human sign and is connected with the appearance of humanity upon our earth. Three of the zodiacal signs are more closely connected with the human than are any of the others. These are Leo, Sagittarius and Aquarius. They are related to the three aspects of body, soul and spirit.
(02:44:06) (Raleigh) which is which?
(02:44:45) (ron) END...we can start on the Readings and UFO's after the break
(02:44:47) (Zee) Leo body Sagittarius soul Aquarius spirit, Ral
(02:44:54) (Raleigh) k
(02:45:00) (Raleigh) ty zee / :)
(02:47:43) (ron) UNDERSTANDING THE UFO PHENOMENON By Gregory L. Little, Ed.D.
(02:48:07) (ron) One of the most unusual conferences ever held at Virginia Beach is being hosted by the A.R.E., December 2-3, 2005. It is the result of increased public and media interest in the UFO phenomenon, as well as revived interest in those Edgar Cayce readings that specifically mentioned ancient visitations to Earth by extraterrestrials. The conference
(02:48:21) (Zee) I have wondered if UFO might be at least in large part an astral phenomena
(02:48:31) (Zee) I do NOT mean only
(02:48:50) (Raleigh) im not sure
(02:49:00) (ron) i think that everything is a part of everything else
(02:49:05) (Raleigh) see ez and 2kings
(02:49:09) (Zee) I agree
(02:49:15) (Raleigh) firey chariots
(02:49:19) (ron) includes several of the most influential figures in the study of UFOs (ufology) as well as Cayce-oriented speakers who have carefully evaluated Cayce's readings on the ancient world.
(02:49:19) (Zee) maybe the astral provides the rapid travel through galaxies
(02:49:19) (Raleigh) elijah too
(02:49:27) (Raleigh) he took off in 1
(02:49:33) (Zee) the physical is materialized from the astral so it might be
(02:49:36) (Raleigh) ezra as well
(02:49:40) (ky-mike) there trying to get hearings on u fo,s .... in washington
(02:49:46) (ron) The most definitive Cayce reading on ancient visits to Earth by extraterrestrial beings was given in 1938 (1616-1): "Before this we find the entity was in the land now known as the Mexican and Yucatan land It was just before that period when those as from the east had come, and there were the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding
(02:49:49) (Raleigh) he saw the earth ropund btw
(02:49:53) (Raleigh) ezra did
(02:50:42) (ron) that there were other portions of the same land, or those that were visiting from other worlds or planets." The time frame and location of these visits by people "from other worlds or planets" is fairly narrow. It was in the Mayan (Yucatan) region, and it was after Christ's appearance in Palestine.
(02:50:56) (Raleigh) i have hieroglyphs of the atlanian crafts
(02:51:38) (ron) Another 1938 Cayce reading appears to strongly suggest ancient extraterrestrial visitations, but this time it took place in the AtIantean land, around 10,000 B.C. Incredibly, the reading implies that the warning given to the Atlantean priests about the impending destruction of Atlantis could have come from extraterrestrial sources. Furthermore, the need to have the Atlantean records preserved in three locations also appears to have come from the same source:
(02:52:16) (Raleigh) there is no extrateresialz
(02:52:20) (ron) "Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land.
(02:52:20) (Raleigh) ec said so
(02:52:21) (Zee) shades of the Markabian confederacy
(02:52:40) (ron) "There we find the entity was very close to those in authority; being that one
(02:52:58) (ron) who was the keeper of the portals as well as the messages that were received from the visitation of those from the outer spheres, in the latter part of the entity's experience there.
(02:53:17) (Raleigh) hmmmm
(02:53:28) (Raleigh) there are no extraterestialz
(02:53:34) (Raleigh) ec said this
(02:53:38) (Zee) thank you, Ron for those interesting communications
(02:53:40) (ron) "For it was the entity that received the message as to the needs for the dividing of the children of the Law of One for the preservation of the truths of same in other lands.
(02:54:13) (ron) "Hence we find the entity was among those who were as the directors of those expeditions, or the leaving for the many varied lands just before the breaking up of the Atlantean land.
(02:54:39) (ron) "Hence the entity outlined in the most part, it might be said, the expedition guided by Ax-Tell and the ones to the Pyrenees and to the Yucatan and to the land of Og." (1681-1)
(02:55:03) (Raleigh) basque
(02:55:03) (ron) Edgar Cayce also often related that there were elemental beings, which consisted of vibrations (similar to electrical energies). Under some conditions, these vibrational forces could manifest into physical forms. During his youth, Cayce played with these physical beings, which he called fairies (294-128). In other readings (1298-1), he called
(02:55:34) (ron) elementals "the warp [vibrational] and woof [texture] of materiality." Cayce mentioned brownies, pixies, fairies, and gnomes as examples of these materialized forms. These readings have strong similarities to many modem UFO abduction reports, and will be a topic addressed during the conference.
(02:56:22) (ron) UFOLOGY - A SPECTRUM OF THEORIES
(02:56:32) (ky-mike) philip krapf , has 2 great books on it... current !
(02:56:33) (Raleigh) how do they relate
(02:56:42) (ron) The field of ufology emerged not long after the modem wave of UFO reports appeared in 1947, two years after Cayce's death. So many UFO reports were made in America, that the government was forced to address the issue, especially since many reports came from military sources. From 1947 through 1952, the U.s. Air Force investigated 2,344 UFO cases and classified about 17 percent as unidentified. In 1991, the Air Force issued regulation 190-1,
(02:57:05) (Raleigh) he was from idaho
(02:57:14) (Raleigh) the 47 pilot
(02:57:40) (ron) which reported that over 12,500 cases had been officially investigated and that about 5 percent were unexplained. In general, UFO investigators focus on the unexplained cases, which continue to pour in unabated to this day. Quite recently, the Brazilian government has officially released previously unknown documents, which validate both the government's involvement in UFO investigations and the finding that investigators have concluded that many of the
(02:57:42) (Raleigh) that was 1st to report a ufo
(02:58:19) (ron) cases are genuine and inexplicable in conventional terms. Some prominent UFO investigators assert that a government conspiracy has been at the center of an ongoing cover-up, which seeks to hide the fact that the military has recovered the remains of crashed alien craft as well as the aliens inside these craft.
(02:58:39) (Raleigh) rozwell
(02:58:45) (Raleigh) so what
(02:58:59) (ron) While many investigators have become certain that the unexplained UFO reports represent alien craft, others have come to very different conclusions. One interesting background to the modem UFO era is increasing understanding that similar reports have been made throughout all recorded history. This has led to a fascinating range of ideas and
(02:58:59) (Raleigh) big deal
(02:59:38) (Raleigh) in the bible all over
(02:59:46) (Raleigh) ez
(02:59:49) (Raleigh) 2kings
(02:59:54) (ron) theories about UFOs that incorporate spirituality, Native American lore, Earth energies, angels, and neurochemistry. The December 2005 conference will cover the entire spectrum of all these theories with
(03:00:24) (ron) many of the foremost investigators and theorists.
(03:00:36) (Raleigh) billy graham said that ufoz are angelz btw
(03:00:40) (ky-mike) thr paradigum prodject...is trying to get hearing, over 2 hundred sicentest wan to testafy
