Post by Blu on Sept 26, 2005 17:13:07 GMT -5
ron says: i have something that was given to me from Blu and WIS...it is an incredible interesting article...plus something about our Moon
diane says: tell us
ron says: these articles are brief
ron says: Wednesday, 11 September, 2002, 12:56 GMT 13:56 UK
ron says: NEW “MOON” FOUND AROUND EARTH - THERE COULD BE ANOTHER ONE
ron says: By Dr David Whitehouse - BBC News Online science editor
Whiteraven says: aye ? a new moon ?
ron says: An amateur astronomer may have found another moon of the Earth. Experts say it may have only just arrived. Much uncertainty surrounds the mysterious object, designated J002E3. It could be a passing chunk of rock captured by the Earth's gravity, or it could be a discarded rocket casing coming back to our region of space. It was discovered by Bill Yeung, from his observatory in Arizona, US, and reported as a passing Near-Earth Object.
ron says: It was soon realized, however, that far from passing us, it was in fact in a 50-day orbit around the Earth. Paul Chodas, of the American space agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, says it must have just arrived or it would have been easily detected long ago.
Whiteraven says: in 2002 ? ron ?
ron says: yes
ron says: Calculations suggest it may have been captured earlier this year. Moon or junk?
ron says: When he detected the object, Bill Yeung contacted the Minor Planet Center in Massachusetts, the clearing house for such discoveries, which gave it the designation J002E3 and posted it on their Near-Earth Object Confirmation web page.
ron says: Soon, however, the object's motion suggested it was in an orbit around the Earth. Its movements had all the hallmarks of being a spent rocket casing or other piece of space junk.
ron says: But experts are not completely sure what exactly the object is. Observations made by Tony Beresford in Australia indicate that the object's position does not match any known piece of space junk. Observations made in Europe have failed to see any variations in brightness that might be expected from a slowly
ron says: spinning metallic object. Paul Chodas says the object must have arrived quite recently or else it would have been easily detected by any of several automated sky surveys that astronomers are conducting. Its trajectory suggests that it may have been captured in April or May of this year, but there is still some
ron says: 2002
ron says: uncertainty about this. If it is determined that J002E3 is natural it will become Earth's third natural satellite.
ron says: Earth's second one is called Cruithne. It was discovered in 1986 and it takes a convoluted horseshoe path around our planet as it is tossed about by the Earth's and the Moon's gravity.
ron says: so there may be a possibility of 3 nearby object circling the moon
ron says: sorry, circling the earth
diane says: i'll be darned
ron says: END of that article
ron says: just think about all that extra moonlight fun :)
diane says: is JOO still there
ron says: i believe it still is
ron says: i don't have the latest information on this
Blu says: Is it visible with the naked eye Ron?
diane says: wonder how these affect horoscope
Whiteraven says: brb Blu someone in Spirits trying to get my attention
Blu says: ok
ron says: here is a very interesting article given to me by Blu and WIS...extremely interesting...first some thoughts of my own...pardon my writing and punctuation (Diane) :)
ron says: GRADUAL CHANGE
ron says: The progressive movement of the invisible/visible universe is not new. You'll find it in Eastern Thought, Theosophical literature which is an interpretation of the same ancient ideas, and in the Readings as well.
ron says: They mention the gradual change that is taking place. Like the Earth, for instance has moved from an ethereal state to the material condition it is in now. And, now is gradually moving back to this ethereal state.
ron says: These changes will not wait for any soul. Each soul will have to keep moving along with the Greater Changes or be left behind with, perhaps, the next Life Wave. Besides, who wants to be left behind. And still no soul shall parish. What soul wants to lose their
ron says: personal connection to souls they have been tied to for eons and eons - threaded together in time and space. These are threads of loving companionships, families and friends, perhaps from ties that may have begun at the beginning of the creation.
ron says: So many of us are scrambling to keep up with this gradual progressive movement.
ron says: If it wasn't for this enforced change we would not have the incentive, the extra push, the incentive, to move along with this changing universe.
ron says: oops, too many incentives
ron says: So, this universe waits for no one. The earth is gradually moving towards an ethereal state again. The created universe is continually speeding up according to the scientists. And,
ron says: then what? Another Praylaya? The Indrawing of the Great Breath? All coming to rest again for another great sleep just to awaken again.
ron says: This gradual change that is taking place is gradually producing lighter bodies. A luminance not just regarding our physical bodies but our increased perception of light-
ron says: energy bodies of those on the other side. Thus greater communications with those that have passed on should be expected.
ron says: I mentioned awhile back, about the increase of phosphorous. Something I thought I read in the Readings. Its supposed to give us the ability to see the energized light bodies of those that have passed on. Perhaps being a first step to communication skills with those
ron says: closer to the Light, thus bringing greater understanding to those who are still encased in material form. Our pursuit of spiritualization should become faster and more enlightening than can we can imagine.
ron says: END
ron says: now that great article
diane says: neat info
ron says: RUSSIAN SCIENTIST SAYS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO A NEW ENERGY "ZONE" THAT IS TRANSFORMING THE MAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE PLANETS.
ron says: The scientific report below is so strange that I was not prepared to believe it or send it out to you until I contacted my old friend, peace poet, writer and translator, Igor Mikhailusenko in Moscow to find out if the scientist named
ron says: below is a respected individual or just some kind of a kook. I can't really investigate the science but the least I can do is ascertain the reliability of the scientist.
ron says: Igor reports that the man is well-known and respected among Russian scientists and therefore I pass on the very interesting report below. We have always looked on the sun as very permanent and unchanging. But in fact we have recently been reading American scientists' reports of much larger magnetic storms on the sun than ever
ron says: before. Sunspots have become larger or more numerous or the like, but no explanation has been offered. Now we may have it. I've not followed solar activity much but left it to others, not understanding that it could affect our real world situations.
ron says: Now it seems that what may really be happening is larger than just sun spot changes. It may actually be as Dr. Dmitriev seems to suggest that the entire solar system is moving into a new area of the heavens where things are indeed different.
ron says: We've always known that just as our planet revolves around the sun and in doing that passes through different areas so there are more meteorites at certain seasons than at others, so also the sun itself with the entire solar system around it has an orbit of its own. Orbit ? That would suggest a centre around which it revolves. I'm not sure
diane says: in 5 billion years the sun's inner core will have becom burned out
ron says: of that, but it is clear that the entire solar system is not fixed in space. It must at least move with what some refer to as an "expanding universe".
diane says: saw a special on sci channel
ron says: So as it moves there is no reason to think that it cannot move into areas of different kinds of energy. Are these energies physical only ? What is the difference between physical energy and spiritual energy ? I have long believed that just as physical energy can be transformed into matter (E=mc square, a la Einstein), so also it seems likely that
ron says: there is some similar relationship between spiritual energy (love) and physical energy. Well that is only my own intuitive feeling, but now we have some evidence that there really can be some vast changes affecting all the earth and all the planets at the same time. Whether the effect is physical only or also spiritual remains to be seen and experienced.
ron says: Now Igor also deserves some credit here. Without his input, his assurance that this scientist is credible, I would not have forwarded the report that follows. From the age of 10 when he lost both legs during a Nazi air raid, Igor has been a poet for peace writing and traveling and publishing books dedicated to a meaningful spiritual change for the earth.
ron says: I've known him since 1984 and met him personally in 1986, brought him to the U.S. in 1987. There is no question of his sincerity and dedication to peace. However, since the end of Communism when disabled people were fairly well cared for, things have not gone well for Igor. But in recent times he has been given an old computer and is
ron says: now able to do email with many people across the world. Though he cannot himself access the web with his old equipment, a friend has created a website for him. That's how I found out that the scientific work which appears below is respectable. Please do visit his website and find out about his books. See the scientific report below. Peace and love, Art Rosenblum
ron says: Subject: Russian Scientist says planets' atmospheres are Changing
ron says: This is the Russian perspective on earth changes :
ron says: Hard facts that are going unreported in America :
ron says: The atmospheres of the planets are changing :
ron says: Dr. Dmitriev's work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres
ron says: For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.
ron says: Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.'' Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before. And we're having this kind of change in Earth's atmosphere in the upper levels,
ron says: where HO gas is forming that wasn't there before; it simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. It's not related to global warming and it's not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or any of that stuff. It's just showing up.
ron says: Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. The planets are experiencing sizable changes in their overall brightness. Venus, for example, is showing us marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter has gotten
ron says: to have such a high energetic charge that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between its moon, Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken more
ron says: the rest of that sentence is missing ... things seem to get lost along the way
ron says: And the planets are having a change in their fields. The magnetic fields are becoming stronger.
ron says: Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled. Uranus's magnetic field is changing. Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. These planets are becoming brighter. Their magnetic field strength is getting higher. Their atmospheric qualities are changing.
ron says: Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager 2 space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees, both of which are pretty
ron says: big changes. The overall changes could essentially be broken down into three categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes, and atmospheric changes.
ron says: Overall volcanic activity has increased 500 percent since 1975 On the Earth, we're seeing the changes even more completely. For example, Michael Mandeville has done research that has shown that the overall volcanic activity
ron says: on the Earth since 1875 has increased by roughly 500 percent. The overall earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent just since 1973. Natural disasters increased 410 percent between 1963 and 1993
ron says: Dr. Dmitriev did a very elaborate calculation of natural disasters. He showed that if you compare the years 1963 through 1993, the overall amount of natural disasters of all different kinds - whether you are talking hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, you name it - have increased by 410 percent.
ron says: The Sun's magnetic field has increased by 230 percent since 1901
ron says: There's a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, who has been investigating the Sun. He has discovered that since 1901, the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become 230 percent stronger than it was before. More than just Earth Changes So, all in all, what we're seeing is a lot more
ron says: than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that's going on here.
ron says: Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the
ron says: only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.
ron says: The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent Now, check this out. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, of course, and that magnetic field creates an egg around the Solar System, which is known as the heliosphere. The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long and thin end of the
ron says: drop pointing in the opposite direction from the direction that we're traveling. It's just like a comet, where the tail is always pointing away from the Sun. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there.
ron says: This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System. Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep.
ron says: Although Dmitriev's paper does not give an exact timeline, we can assume that this increase happened in the same 1963 to 1993 period as the increase he found in natural disasters. Whenever it happened, that's a 1,000 percent increase in the overall brightness of the energy at the front end of the Solar System.
ron says: And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.
ron says: This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.
ron says: And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.
ron says: All this is happening all at the same time, and it's all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift. In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This
ron says: increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.
ron says: Peace and love, Art Rosenblum, Aquarian Research Foundation Web: www.ic.org/aq
ron says: END
diane says: that doesn't sound all bad
ron says: now, anyone for astrology?
Blu says: LOL
ron says: or open chat
Blu says: Does it relate to all this you just presented?
ron says: not bad Diane
ron says: its a sign of the greater changes that we are being propelled into
diane says: i saw where the sun will gradually increase in size
diane says: as it's inner core becomes smaller
Blu says: I have a question
ron says: what might be the spiritual possibilities?
diane says: we get lighter?
Blu says: ok, does this mean that free will is really not a way to slow down or ease these changes?
diane says: changes seem natural
Blu says: yes, I agree, but like with the earth changes we have seen they can be ruthless when it comes to human suffering!
diane says: oh, definitely
ron says: my interpretation from the Eastern teachings..is that gradual changes that are taking place is that needed additional incentive...otherwise we'd go, as souls, at our own pace...the universe doesn't wait for no one...move ahead or be left behind to start again elsewhere in the universe
Blu says: of course that suffering is the result of our own ignorance or selfishness
ron says: but greater opportunity is being presented
Blu says: That is what amazes me Ron, but I think I have always known that anyway
ron says: the Universe is giving us that additional push
diane says: are earth changes a kind of punishment, as you see it, Blu?
Blu says: no
diane says: the challenge is to care for the suffering
Blu says: But it's not like we have not been told by science, and spiritual leaders that this is coming, we just are not taking it and applying
ron says: i think that karma is a necessary push to change us...it is called long-suffering as found in the Fruits of the Spirit
ky-mike says: the earth is being used and abused !
diane says: the population is growing, so is the suffering
Blu says: Well, sure makes the 5th root race look like something bigger than we thought
Blu says: LOL, I have my ticket!
ron says: i believe many are responding but we are not aware of the individual changes...but there are many..
Blu says: yes, I think so too
diane says: are they connected in any way to this change of energies?
Blu says: have to be
Blu says: you know I remember somewhere, I think it was a VanAuken conference, that the said that children will not be born in the future
diane says: there's an upswing in spirituality of all kinds
Blu says: that for some reason women would stop having children, the reason was not clear
diane says: what'll they do?
Blu says: I do not know
ron says: if the parents says, get in the car were going out...you get in the car and go...all the whimpering in the world will do you any good...and your parent isn't going to leave back there by yourself
Blu says: but I think we are seeing infertility now, to a great degree
diane says: not on all continents, Blu
Blu says: This change in the planets is affecting genetics
diane says: but that's true
Blu says: I agree Diane, those who live closer to nature may be more adapted
ron says: even that may be considered as to be part of the greater change
Blu says: yep
Blu says: Wild huh?
diane says: what is? infertility?
ron says: how did we begin?
Blu says: part of me is saying, your mind is going to blow, and another part of me is saying "you knew this all along"!
diane says: we were fish who grew legs
ron says: that's ok...I had my special moments...there's still room for more
Blu says: of course I think the rest of the world calls it senile!
ron says: i have always been told that I'm look a lot younger than my age...from about 10 to 15 years younger
ron says: my father was the same way
Blu says: me too, I think it's the meditation that does that
ron says: right Blu...i also include the proper attitudes about life and never growing up...people told me to grow up...i refused...kept my young
Blu says: Message for us from the spirits WR?
Whiteraven says: yeah awesome journey
Blu says: cool
diane says: good for you
Whiteraven says: ill mail it to you cos you and WIS were there in part too
ron says: what's up WR?
Whiteraven says: Oh nuffin I was called by one of my guides to journey
Blu says: can you post it here?
diane says: raven, is it good stuff?
Whiteraven says: they have a trick catching me now I sleep in I don't do my early morning meditation so they interrupted my chat time LOL
Whiteraven says: ok i don't think it would interest any one else but Ill e-mail it to you now Blu so you can see
Blu says: when did you ever know me to be cautious???
Blu says: ok
ron says: yes, that was a hint of what kind of events that happened to me...tho i never finished it on the chat
diane says: i just don't get it
ron says: something that WIS told me
diane says: never met a soul like that
ron says: see all that green in the Emerald forest
ron says: green belongs to what center?
diane says: heart?
Whiteraven says: healing and isn't emerald green allows about the etheric auric body ?
diane says: good to keep it a secret ron. i'm only teasing ya
ron says: ok Diane and Blu
Whiteraven says: You remember Blu what happened with that photo of a medicine man that 'appeared ' on my computer ?
Blu says: yes
Whiteraven says: well he came into my dream or journey I cant remember which and he came to me to bless my medicine Pipe it was like he was making it Holy again
diane says: same here, ron! ty
Whiteraven says: he just came to me when I was on the mountain and walked in smiling and all shimmering rainbow colours and he with his hands drew a cross and circle all around my Pipe
Whiteraven says: making it Sacred again
diane says: very coool!
Whiteraven says: I don't treat it bad but I had been kind of casual in the weeks prior
Blu says: I do all my stuff in the email Ron so I can use spell checker!
Whiteraven says: also Blu my feeling was that he has come to me now to help direct with my healing work