Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 28, 2007 22:32:58 GMT -5
Revelations Study: 10-28-07
(09:13:11) (@autogreeter) Good Evening, Merri . Welcome to A Study On Revelations - Hosted By Roz. Please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time.
(09:17:52) (@roz1) lets center
(09:18:18) (@roz1) Lets Center; Allow the Presence of God to come into your being. Take a very deep breath, hold to the count of 8 , release to the count of 8. Allow your mind and heart, to resonate to the impetus of the God within and the God without. Almighty Father, bless our study, that we bring into manifestation your will for our lives that we may minister to each other through YOUR Word. In the name of the Christ we ask these things
(09:18:33) (@roz1) Amen
(09:18:38) (@cris7) Amen
(09:18:40) (merri) Amen
(09:18:43) (@blubearwoman) Amen
(09:18:52) (shelley) Amen
(09:18:56) (ron1) amen
(09:18:56) (@walksinspirit) Nunwe
(09:19:25) (@roz1) Chapter 14 verse 1
(09:19:44) (@roz1) 1. AND I HEARD A GREAT VOICE SAYING TO THE SEVEN ANGELS, GO YOUR WAYS AND POUR OUT THE SEVEN BOWLS OF THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE EARTH.
(09:20:25) (@roz1) remember please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time
(09:20:30) (@roz1) The earth experience is the arena for meeting the karmic patterns of the seven basic plagues of mankind.
(09:20:56) (@roz1) 2. AND THE FIRST WENT AND POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE EARTH: AND THERE CAME A SEVERE AND MALIGANT SORE UPON MEN WHO HAD THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND UPON THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED HIS IMAGE.
(09:21:24) (@roz1) The manifestation of being caught in the transference of the power of God to things, organizations and self becomes evident in the self as a malignant growing sore
(09:21:49) (@roz1) 3. THEN A SECOND ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE SEA: AND IT BECAME AS BLOOD OF A DEAD NAN, AND EVERY LIVING SOUL DIED IN THE SEA.
(09:22:14) (@roz1) The vastness of the unconsciousness "SEA" receives scrutiny of its energy patterns. Stagnate, preconceived manifestations of consciousness cause death "Blood of a dead man" of growing awareness.
(09:23:23) (@roz1) 4. AND THE THIRD ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE RIVERS AND FOUNTAINS OF WATERS; AND THEY BECAME BLOOD.
(09:25:06) (@roz1) Life sustaining elements "rivers and fountains of waters" become the life force "blood". This again is worshipping the power rather than the source.
(09:25:55) (@roz1) 5.. THEN I HEARD THE ANGEL WHO HAS CHARGE OVER WATERS, THOU ART RIGHTEOUS, 0 HOLY ONE, WHO IS AND WAST, BECAUSE THOU HAS CONDEMNED THEM.
(09:26:22) (shelley) this is chapter 16 not chapter 14 --
(09:26:44) (@roz1) so right Shelly thanks
(09:26:52) (@roz1) There is yet the angelic force urging the right use of life force.
(09:27:38) (@roz1) mine is in roman Numerals I goofed
(09:28:01) (shelley) i was having trouble reading chapter 14 Roz
(09:28:30) (@roz1) 6.FOR THEY HAVE SHED THE BLOOD OF SAINTS AND PROPHETS, AND THOU HAS GIVEN THEM BLOOD TO DRINK; FOR THEY DESERVE IT.
(09:29:05) (@roz1) We will confront the patterns we establish.
(09:29:16) (@roz1) scary thought isn't it?
(09:30:22) (@roz1) ought to scare us into being righteous
(09:30:29) (@roz1) 7. AND I HEARD ANOTHER OUT OF THE ALTAR SAY, YES 0 LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE THY JUDGEMENTS.
(09:31:15) (@roz1) God, in His righteousness, gives what is most beneficial to us.
(09:32:18) (@roz1) 8. AND THE FOURTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE SUN; ALL POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM TO SCORCH MEN WITH FIRE.
(09:33:30) (@roz1) We realize our enlightenment does not come from outer manifestations and we are burned by the attempt to gain it from them.
(09:36:28) (@roz1) 9. AND MEN WERE SCORCHED BY INTENSE HEAT, AND THEY BLASPHEMED THE NAME OF GOD, WHO HAS POWER OVER THESE PLAGUES; AND THEY DID NOT REPENT TO GIVE HIM GLORY.
(09:37:01) (@roz1) Men fail in the attempt to be enlightened by other means and blame God for their failure.
(09:41:11) (Roz11) 10. AND THE FIFTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL ON THE THRONE OF THE WILD BEAST; AND HIS KINGDOM WAS DARKENED; AND MEN GNAWED THEIR TONGUE FROM PAIN.
(09:42:16) (Roz11) 11. AND BLASPHEMED THE GOD OF HEAVEN BECAUSE OF THEIR WOUNDS AND SORES, AND DID NOT REPENT OF THEIR DEEDS.
(09:42:42) (Roz11) We rail and blame God instead of turning to Him.
(09:43:06) (Roz11) 12. THEN THE SIXTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE GREAT RIVER EUPHRATES; AND ITS WATERS DRIED UP, THAT THE WAY OF THE KING OF THE EAST MIGHT BE PREPARED.
(09:44:32) (Roz11) The sources and resources we use in the involutionary and evolutionary pattern "the great river Euphrates" no longer serve us, We must prepare to follow the "Way of the King of the East, Jesus."
(09:45:05) (Roz11) 13. AND I SAW THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS COMING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE DRAGON AND OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE WILD BEAST AND OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE FALSE PROPHET.
(09:45:33) (Roz11) Three unclean spirits are the urge for power, lust and self-righteousness. These unhealthy manifestations and pestilences of the unconsciousness are the results of falseness.
(09:46:12) (Roz11) 14. FOR THEY ARE SPIRITS OF DEVILS, WHO WORK MIRACLES WHICH GO FORTH TO THE KINGS OF THE .WHOLE WORLD, TO GATHER THEM TO BATTLE OF THAT GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY.
(09:46:43) (Roz11) The forces of misuse and abuse "spirits of Devils" are rulers of the whole world, "go forth to the Kings". These propound and compound to be a force contrary to God.
(09:47:15) (Roz11) how much of that are we seeing in today's world?
(09:47:32) (@blubearwoman) way to much
(09:47:59) (Roz11) got that right!!
(09:48:06) (Roz11) 15. AND BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. BLESSED IS HE WHO WATCHES AND KEEPS HIS GARMENTS, LEST HE MUST WALK NAKED AND THEY SEE HIS SHAME.
(09:48:38) (Roz11) We must watch our attitudes "keeps his garments" as the attitude of false piety is transparent. We expose ourselves "lest we must walk naked" in our hypocrisy "see his shame"
(09:49:17) (Roz11) 16. AND HE GATHERED THEM TOGETHER IN A PLACE WHICH IN THE HEBREW TONGUE IS CALLED ARMAGEDDON.
(09:49:43) (Roz11) ever wonder what that is Armageddon?
(09:49:56) (shelley) yes-what is it?
(09:50:18) (Roz11) Armageddon is the place within where we would seek the pleasures of God but do not seek His council.
(09:50:23) (Roz11) here it is!!!
(09:50:59) (Roz11) 17. THEN THE SEVENTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL INTO THE AIR; AND THERE CAME A GREAT VOICE OUT OF THE TEMPLE FROM THE THRONE, SAYING IT IS DONE.
(09:51:06) (@blubearwoman) pleasures vs council
(09:51:17) (Roz11) exackle !!
(09:51:27) (Roz11) 17. THEN THE SEVENTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL INTO THE AIR; AND THERE CAME A GREAT VOICE OUT OF THE TEMPLE FROM THE THRONE, SAYING IT IS DONE.
(09:51:47) (@blubearwoman) That is what Jesus said on the cross
(09:52:07) (Roz11) yes Blu
(09:52:12) (Roz11) The seven angels have poured out tie bowls of the wrath of God upon the earth, the sea, the rivers and fountains of waters, the sun, the great river Euphrates and the air.
(09:53:05) (Roz11) These bowls- the karmic patterns stored in the seven centers are the transgressions against God's Divine Plan. We see the results of the misuse and abuse; in the earth form of our bodies,
(09:53:33) (Roz11) the unconscious urges and messages, the life sustaining patterns, our sources of enlightenment, the involutive and evolutive patterns and our link with all other living beings "air"
(09:54:02) (Roz11) We have the message out of the temple of the throne". It is done.
(09:55:14) (Roz11) This is the reason we must direct the energies by the Lord's Prayer
(09:56:17) (Roz11) so as not stimulate the karmic patterns we have stored in the chakras
(09:56:42) (Roz11) comments or questions?
(09:57:09) (Roz11) 18, AND THERE WERE VOICES, AND THUNDERS AND LIGHTENINGS; AND THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, THE LIKE OF WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED SINCE MAN WAS UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT.
(09:57:16) (merlink) out of the lower centers into the higher more spiritual centers the kundalini rises
(09:58:02) (Roz11) 18, AND THERE WERE VOICES, AND THUNDERS AND LIGHTENINGS; AND THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, THE LIKE OF WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED SINCE MAN WAS UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT.
(09:58:28) (Roz11) The greatest of upheavals is now at hand.
(09:58:46) (ron1) the holy of holies
(09:59:08) (Roz11) exackle ron
(09:59:14) (Roz11) The three parts of man's inherent urges; self-expression, the desire to relate to others, and the desire to identify self in relation to the cosmic whole is "the great city that was divided into three parts!" The confusion in the ideals for earthly pleasure and self-gratification "great Babylon" is the problem at hand "came in remembrance before God". These are now seen in relationship
to the messages of the angels so that we can understand how far we fall, by our insistence on the gratification of the self instead of learning our path to God. This is "to give her the Cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath".
(10:00:26) (Roz11) 20. AND EVERY ISLAND FLED AWAY, AND THE MOUNTAINS COULD NOT BE FOUND.
(10:01:14) (@blubearwoman) This part about the blood reminds me of the blood and wine in communion that we are to drink
(10:01:34) (Roz11) All foundations are not visible, because we have fallen so short of our potential.
(10:01:58) (Roz11) yes for communion or drunkenness
(10:02:14) (merri) LOL
(10:02:45) (@cris7) Let's hope it is for a higher good....
(10:02:59) (Roz11) can we imagine our potential
(10:03:09) (Roz11) 21. AND GREAT HAIL, ABOUT THE SIZE OF A TALENT FELL OUT OF HEAVEN UPON MEN; AND MEN BLASPHEHED GOD BECAUSE OF THE PLAGUE OF THE HAIL; FOR THE DESTRUCTIVE FORCE OF THE HAIL WAS EXCEEDINGLY GREAT.
(10:03:18) (@blubearwoman) in the beginning of this, I think it was about the third one, it said You have given them blood to drink for they deserve it, that can be taken two ways
(10:03:28) (ron1) merri's been taking a few nips, i see
(10:03:40) (Roz11) In the destructive turbulence of our lives, we blame God instead of assuming the responsibility ourselves.
(10:03:42) (merri) LOL
(10:04:06) (Roz11) good for her got enough for all of us
(10:04:22) (merri) always!
(10:04:31) (maybelle) hey send some to me--I been chatting with autogreeter!!
(10:04:42) (Roz11) There are seven steps or sections, in the Book of Revelation. The first is the chapters 1 through 4. The first section concerns the seven centers and their faults and virtues
(10:05:13) (Roz11) this will help understand what we are studying
(10:05:42) (Roz11) The next four chapters deal with the opening of the centers and the accompanying visions
(10:06:08) (Roz11) Chapters 9,10,11 are of the physical purification. Chapters 15 and 16 portray the meeting of karmic patterns.
(10:06:40) (Roz11) Chapters 15 and 16 portray the meeting of karmic patterns. Chapters 17 and 18 are concerned with supplanting the ruler ship of the beastly nature with a higher order. The last four chapters establish the new Jerusalem.
(10:07:09) (Roz11) everyone clear?
(10:07:30) (@blubearwoman) yep
(10:08:26) (merri) when the beastly nature is controlled what happens to the species?
(10:09:20) (Roz11) we become what we were created to to be co-creators w/ God
(10:09:52) (merri) end of mankind?
(10:09:55) (@blubearwoman) I think the resurrected Christ is the new species, we are promised a new heaven and a new earth
(10:10:07) (Roz11) I agree Blu
(10:10:27) (@blubearwoman) I get the new earth part, but have been wondering about the new heaven
(10:11:06) (Roz11) what wondrous things are in store for us
(10:11:13) (merri) why the division
(10:11:26) (merri) wouldn't they be one?
(10:11:45) (@blubearwoman) in the end it is all one
(10:12:19) (merri) what end?
(10:12:28) (ron1) momentarily seeking a new heaven...
(10:12:36) (@blubearwoman) I am thinking if we have new ways to manifest, then there must be a need for a new way to manifest heaven
(10:12:54) (@blubearwoman) the end of the train of logic
(10:13:07) (@roz1) we may be beings of Light as the Christ is now
(10:13:21) (@blubearwoman) yes Roz, i believe we are
(10:13:35) (@roz1) we created space and time so we may not need those
(10:13:41) (merlink) all resurrected beings shall take on the light body
(10:13:45) (@blubearwoman) it's realizing that we have problems with
(10:13:59) (@cris7) maybe this heaven is for more enlightened people
(10:15:05) (@blubearwoman) everything is spirit manifests in the physical, and as a side note we are moving into a new place in space, the whole galaxy is, so that could be a new manifestation of "heaven" as well
(10:15:42) (@cris7) Our galaxy is always in motion
(10:16:02) (@roz1) well the following chapters tell us what to expect
(10:16:19) (@cris7) I wonder at times if that might not affect our droughts and ice ages
(10:16:47) (@roz1) describes the New Jerusalem
(10:17:43) (ron1) the new city, the new body
(10:17:58) (@roz1) yes rises and falls of earth
(10:18:07) (@roz1) exackle ron
(10:18:21) (ron1) or, a spiritualization
(10:18:44) (merlink) Ecclesiastes !!!
(10:18:54) (merri) a change of consciousness
(10:19:02) (@blubearwoman) Well Jesus had to go prepare a place for us so this is definitely going to be something new
(10:21:33) (@blubearwoman) Do we get more Roz?
(10:21:43) (@roz1) we will continue chapter 17 next wk stay tuned
(10:21:52) (@blubearwoman) Ok, Thank you Roz
(10:21:58) (Moira_) ty Roz
(10:22:07) (maybelle) ty Roz
(10:22:17) (ron1) very good roz...
(10:22:29) (@roz1) glad yu enjoyed it ron
(10:23:18) (@walksinspirit) Great chat, Roz! Thank you so much!
(09:17:52) (@roz1) lets center
(09:18:18) (@roz1) Lets Center; Allow the Presence of God to come into your being. Take a very deep breath, hold to the count of 8 , release to the count of 8. Allow your mind and heart, to resonate to the impetus of the God within and the God without. Almighty Father, bless our study, that we bring into manifestation your will for our lives that we may minister to each other through YOUR Word. In the name of the Christ we ask these things
(09:18:33) (@roz1) Amen
(09:18:38) (@cris7) Amen
(09:18:40) (merri) Amen
(09:18:43) (@blubearwoman) Amen
(09:18:52) (shelley) Amen
(09:18:56) (ron1) amen
(09:18:56) (@walksinspirit) Nunwe
(09:19:25) (@roz1) Chapter 14 verse 1
(09:19:44) (@roz1) 1. AND I HEARD A GREAT VOICE SAYING TO THE SEVEN ANGELS, GO YOUR WAYS AND POUR OUT THE SEVEN BOWLS OF THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE EARTH.
(09:20:25) (@roz1) remember please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time
(09:20:30) (@roz1) The earth experience is the arena for meeting the karmic patterns of the seven basic plagues of mankind.
(09:20:56) (@roz1) 2. AND THE FIRST WENT AND POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE EARTH: AND THERE CAME A SEVERE AND MALIGANT SORE UPON MEN WHO HAD THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND UPON THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED HIS IMAGE.
(09:21:24) (@roz1) The manifestation of being caught in the transference of the power of God to things, organizations and self becomes evident in the self as a malignant growing sore
(09:21:49) (@roz1) 3. THEN A SECOND ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE SEA: AND IT BECAME AS BLOOD OF A DEAD NAN, AND EVERY LIVING SOUL DIED IN THE SEA.
(09:22:14) (@roz1) The vastness of the unconsciousness "SEA" receives scrutiny of its energy patterns. Stagnate, preconceived manifestations of consciousness cause death "Blood of a dead man" of growing awareness.
(09:23:23) (@roz1) 4. AND THE THIRD ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE RIVERS AND FOUNTAINS OF WATERS; AND THEY BECAME BLOOD.
(09:25:06) (@roz1) Life sustaining elements "rivers and fountains of waters" become the life force "blood". This again is worshipping the power rather than the source.
(09:25:55) (@roz1) 5.. THEN I HEARD THE ANGEL WHO HAS CHARGE OVER WATERS, THOU ART RIGHTEOUS, 0 HOLY ONE, WHO IS AND WAST, BECAUSE THOU HAS CONDEMNED THEM.
(09:26:22) (shelley) this is chapter 16 not chapter 14 --
(09:26:44) (@roz1) so right Shelly thanks
(09:26:52) (@roz1) There is yet the angelic force urging the right use of life force.
(09:27:38) (@roz1) mine is in roman Numerals I goofed
(09:28:01) (shelley) i was having trouble reading chapter 14 Roz
(09:28:30) (@roz1) 6.FOR THEY HAVE SHED THE BLOOD OF SAINTS AND PROPHETS, AND THOU HAS GIVEN THEM BLOOD TO DRINK; FOR THEY DESERVE IT.
(09:29:05) (@roz1) We will confront the patterns we establish.
(09:29:16) (@roz1) scary thought isn't it?
(09:30:22) (@roz1) ought to scare us into being righteous
(09:30:29) (@roz1) 7. AND I HEARD ANOTHER OUT OF THE ALTAR SAY, YES 0 LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS ARE THY JUDGEMENTS.
(09:31:15) (@roz1) God, in His righteousness, gives what is most beneficial to us.
(09:32:18) (@roz1) 8. AND THE FOURTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE SUN; ALL POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM TO SCORCH MEN WITH FIRE.
(09:33:30) (@roz1) We realize our enlightenment does not come from outer manifestations and we are burned by the attempt to gain it from them.
(09:36:28) (@roz1) 9. AND MEN WERE SCORCHED BY INTENSE HEAT, AND THEY BLASPHEMED THE NAME OF GOD, WHO HAS POWER OVER THESE PLAGUES; AND THEY DID NOT REPENT TO GIVE HIM GLORY.
(09:37:01) (@roz1) Men fail in the attempt to be enlightened by other means and blame God for their failure.
(09:41:11) (Roz11) 10. AND THE FIFTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL ON THE THRONE OF THE WILD BEAST; AND HIS KINGDOM WAS DARKENED; AND MEN GNAWED THEIR TONGUE FROM PAIN.
(09:42:16) (Roz11) 11. AND BLASPHEMED THE GOD OF HEAVEN BECAUSE OF THEIR WOUNDS AND SORES, AND DID NOT REPENT OF THEIR DEEDS.
(09:42:42) (Roz11) We rail and blame God instead of turning to Him.
(09:43:06) (Roz11) 12. THEN THE SIXTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL UPON THE GREAT RIVER EUPHRATES; AND ITS WATERS DRIED UP, THAT THE WAY OF THE KING OF THE EAST MIGHT BE PREPARED.
(09:44:32) (Roz11) The sources and resources we use in the involutionary and evolutionary pattern "the great river Euphrates" no longer serve us, We must prepare to follow the "Way of the King of the East, Jesus."
(09:45:05) (Roz11) 13. AND I SAW THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS COMING OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE DRAGON AND OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE WILD BEAST AND OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE FALSE PROPHET.
(09:45:33) (Roz11) Three unclean spirits are the urge for power, lust and self-righteousness. These unhealthy manifestations and pestilences of the unconsciousness are the results of falseness.
(09:46:12) (Roz11) 14. FOR THEY ARE SPIRITS OF DEVILS, WHO WORK MIRACLES WHICH GO FORTH TO THE KINGS OF THE .WHOLE WORLD, TO GATHER THEM TO BATTLE OF THAT GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY.
(09:46:43) (Roz11) The forces of misuse and abuse "spirits of Devils" are rulers of the whole world, "go forth to the Kings". These propound and compound to be a force contrary to God.
(09:47:15) (Roz11) how much of that are we seeing in today's world?
(09:47:32) (@blubearwoman) way to much
(09:47:59) (Roz11) got that right!!
(09:48:06) (Roz11) 15. AND BEHOLD, I COME AS A THIEF. BLESSED IS HE WHO WATCHES AND KEEPS HIS GARMENTS, LEST HE MUST WALK NAKED AND THEY SEE HIS SHAME.
(09:48:38) (Roz11) We must watch our attitudes "keeps his garments" as the attitude of false piety is transparent. We expose ourselves "lest we must walk naked" in our hypocrisy "see his shame"
(09:49:17) (Roz11) 16. AND HE GATHERED THEM TOGETHER IN A PLACE WHICH IN THE HEBREW TONGUE IS CALLED ARMAGEDDON.
(09:49:43) (Roz11) ever wonder what that is Armageddon?
(09:49:56) (shelley) yes-what is it?
(09:50:18) (Roz11) Armageddon is the place within where we would seek the pleasures of God but do not seek His council.
(09:50:23) (Roz11) here it is!!!
(09:50:59) (Roz11) 17. THEN THE SEVENTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL INTO THE AIR; AND THERE CAME A GREAT VOICE OUT OF THE TEMPLE FROM THE THRONE, SAYING IT IS DONE.
(09:51:06) (@blubearwoman) pleasures vs council
(09:51:17) (Roz11) exackle !!
(09:51:27) (Roz11) 17. THEN THE SEVENTH ANGEL POURED OUT HIS BOWL INTO THE AIR; AND THERE CAME A GREAT VOICE OUT OF THE TEMPLE FROM THE THRONE, SAYING IT IS DONE.
(09:51:47) (@blubearwoman) That is what Jesus said on the cross
(09:52:07) (Roz11) yes Blu
(09:52:12) (Roz11) The seven angels have poured out tie bowls of the wrath of God upon the earth, the sea, the rivers and fountains of waters, the sun, the great river Euphrates and the air.
(09:53:05) (Roz11) These bowls- the karmic patterns stored in the seven centers are the transgressions against God's Divine Plan. We see the results of the misuse and abuse; in the earth form of our bodies,
(09:53:33) (Roz11) the unconscious urges and messages, the life sustaining patterns, our sources of enlightenment, the involutive and evolutive patterns and our link with all other living beings "air"
(09:54:02) (Roz11) We have the message out of the temple of the throne". It is done.
(09:55:14) (Roz11) This is the reason we must direct the energies by the Lord's Prayer
(09:56:17) (Roz11) so as not stimulate the karmic patterns we have stored in the chakras
(09:56:42) (Roz11) comments or questions?
(09:57:09) (Roz11) 18, AND THERE WERE VOICES, AND THUNDERS AND LIGHTENINGS; AND THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, THE LIKE OF WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED SINCE MAN WAS UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT.
(09:57:16) (merlink) out of the lower centers into the higher more spiritual centers the kundalini rises
(09:58:02) (Roz11) 18, AND THERE WERE VOICES, AND THUNDERS AND LIGHTENINGS; AND THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, THE LIKE OF WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED SINCE MAN WAS UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT.
(09:58:28) (Roz11) The greatest of upheavals is now at hand.
(09:58:46) (ron1) the holy of holies
(09:59:08) (Roz11) exackle ron
(09:59:14) (Roz11) The three parts of man's inherent urges; self-expression, the desire to relate to others, and the desire to identify self in relation to the cosmic whole is "the great city that was divided into three parts!" The confusion in the ideals for earthly pleasure and self-gratification "great Babylon" is the problem at hand "came in remembrance before God". These are now seen in relationship
to the messages of the angels so that we can understand how far we fall, by our insistence on the gratification of the self instead of learning our path to God. This is "to give her the Cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath".
(10:00:26) (Roz11) 20. AND EVERY ISLAND FLED AWAY, AND THE MOUNTAINS COULD NOT BE FOUND.
(10:01:14) (@blubearwoman) This part about the blood reminds me of the blood and wine in communion that we are to drink
(10:01:34) (Roz11) All foundations are not visible, because we have fallen so short of our potential.
(10:01:58) (Roz11) yes for communion or drunkenness
(10:02:14) (merri) LOL
(10:02:45) (@cris7) Let's hope it is for a higher good....
(10:02:59) (Roz11) can we imagine our potential
(10:03:09) (Roz11) 21. AND GREAT HAIL, ABOUT THE SIZE OF A TALENT FELL OUT OF HEAVEN UPON MEN; AND MEN BLASPHEHED GOD BECAUSE OF THE PLAGUE OF THE HAIL; FOR THE DESTRUCTIVE FORCE OF THE HAIL WAS EXCEEDINGLY GREAT.
(10:03:18) (@blubearwoman) in the beginning of this, I think it was about the third one, it said You have given them blood to drink for they deserve it, that can be taken two ways
(10:03:28) (ron1) merri's been taking a few nips, i see
(10:03:40) (Roz11) In the destructive turbulence of our lives, we blame God instead of assuming the responsibility ourselves.
(10:03:42) (merri) LOL
(10:04:06) (Roz11) good for her got enough for all of us
(10:04:22) (merri) always!
(10:04:31) (maybelle) hey send some to me--I been chatting with autogreeter!!
(10:04:42) (Roz11) There are seven steps or sections, in the Book of Revelation. The first is the chapters 1 through 4. The first section concerns the seven centers and their faults and virtues
(10:05:13) (Roz11) this will help understand what we are studying
(10:05:42) (Roz11) The next four chapters deal with the opening of the centers and the accompanying visions
(10:06:08) (Roz11) Chapters 9,10,11 are of the physical purification. Chapters 15 and 16 portray the meeting of karmic patterns.
(10:06:40) (Roz11) Chapters 15 and 16 portray the meeting of karmic patterns. Chapters 17 and 18 are concerned with supplanting the ruler ship of the beastly nature with a higher order. The last four chapters establish the new Jerusalem.
(10:07:09) (Roz11) everyone clear?
(10:07:30) (@blubearwoman) yep
(10:08:26) (merri) when the beastly nature is controlled what happens to the species?
(10:09:20) (Roz11) we become what we were created to to be co-creators w/ God
(10:09:52) (merri) end of mankind?
(10:09:55) (@blubearwoman) I think the resurrected Christ is the new species, we are promised a new heaven and a new earth
(10:10:07) (Roz11) I agree Blu
(10:10:27) (@blubearwoman) I get the new earth part, but have been wondering about the new heaven
(10:11:06) (Roz11) what wondrous things are in store for us
(10:11:13) (merri) why the division
(10:11:26) (merri) wouldn't they be one?
(10:11:45) (@blubearwoman) in the end it is all one
(10:12:19) (merri) what end?
(10:12:28) (ron1) momentarily seeking a new heaven...
(10:12:36) (@blubearwoman) I am thinking if we have new ways to manifest, then there must be a need for a new way to manifest heaven
(10:12:54) (@blubearwoman) the end of the train of logic
(10:13:07) (@roz1) we may be beings of Light as the Christ is now
(10:13:21) (@blubearwoman) yes Roz, i believe we are
(10:13:35) (@roz1) we created space and time so we may not need those
(10:13:41) (merlink) all resurrected beings shall take on the light body
(10:13:45) (@blubearwoman) it's realizing that we have problems with
(10:13:59) (@cris7) maybe this heaven is for more enlightened people
(10:15:05) (@blubearwoman) everything is spirit manifests in the physical, and as a side note we are moving into a new place in space, the whole galaxy is, so that could be a new manifestation of "heaven" as well
(10:15:42) (@cris7) Our galaxy is always in motion
(10:16:02) (@roz1) well the following chapters tell us what to expect
(10:16:19) (@cris7) I wonder at times if that might not affect our droughts and ice ages
(10:16:47) (@roz1) describes the New Jerusalem
(10:17:43) (ron1) the new city, the new body
(10:17:58) (@roz1) yes rises and falls of earth
(10:18:07) (@roz1) exackle ron
(10:18:21) (ron1) or, a spiritualization
(10:18:44) (merlink) Ecclesiastes !!!
(10:18:54) (merri) a change of consciousness
(10:19:02) (@blubearwoman) Well Jesus had to go prepare a place for us so this is definitely going to be something new
(10:21:33) (@blubearwoman) Do we get more Roz?
(10:21:43) (@roz1) we will continue chapter 17 next wk stay tuned
(10:21:52) (@blubearwoman) Ok, Thank you Roz
(10:21:58) (Moira_) ty Roz
(10:22:07) (maybelle) ty Roz
(10:22:17) (ron1) very good roz...
(10:22:29) (@roz1) glad yu enjoyed it ron
(10:23:18) (@walksinspirit) Great chat, Roz! Thank you so much!
