Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 30, 2006 21:24:30 GMT -5
The Secret Of The Book Of Enoch: 04-30-06
(09:22:16) (Host-Roz) well lets center
(09:24:03) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:24:23) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:24:29) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:24:30) (Lynn) so be it, my Lord
(09:24:30) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:24:30) (merri) Amen
(09:24:31) (Cris) Amen
(09:24:31) (ky-mike) AMEN
(09:24:42) (Spirit) amen
(09:24:45) (Bill) Amen
(09:25:19) (Host-Roz) Some questions were asked last week about the role of Satan in the role with the fallen angels who went into the daughters of men and produced giants, who them became cannibals and ate the populace.This is an explanation of Satan;
(09:26:08) (Host-Roz) ‘The word “Satan” is derived from Aramaic or the
(09:26:50) (ky-mike) lucafer belzabub
(09:26:53) (Host-Roz) Chaldean word, Sata, which means” to miss the mark,” “to mislead,” or “to go astray.” Satana is a noun denoting the action of the verb Sata. It is used as a noun and an adjective
(09:27:33) (Host-Roz) For example, when an Eastener makes a mistake, he spits on Satan. When he doing something wrong, he says: “It was not Satan caused me to do it.” Such h excuses often help escape punishment and embarrassment.
(09:28:03) (Lynn) Knocking him down was Satan´s idea but jumping up and down on him was my own. lol
(09:28:15) (Host-Roz) Satan, as a person, is nowhere mentioned among God’s creation. In Genesis 3 : 1 it is a Ithovey ( snake or “serpent”) which tempts Eve, and not Satan. Tb mention of angels, Satan, or any other intermediaries’
(09:28:57) (Host-Roz) .God acts as a father. He reproves Adam and. rebukes Cain, instructs Noah to build the ark, and appears to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. In the o1den God seemed to have no advisers, intermediaries, on such as angels
(09:29:47) (Host-Roz) The word “Satan” as a noun, is not found in the Pentateuch... It appears once in the book of Numbers, but as a verbal noun, the Hebrew saten, which means “to mislead
(09:29:59) (WalksInSpirit) Hmmm... that word Ithovey is very close to our word "iktome" for evil one.
(09:30:02) (Raleigh) define Itheory pls roz
(09:30:06) (Host-Roz) everyone clear?
(09:30:23) (Host-Roz) snake or serpent Ral
(09:30:23) (Lynn) ya
(09:30:27) (Cris) yes
(09:30:29) (Raleigh) k tx
(09:30:30) (Cheryl) yah
(09:30:37) (Raleigh) yeah /)
(09:30:51) (Bill) satan=ego
(09:31:06) (Host-Roz) could be used perhaps to include all the fallen angels?
(09:31:19) (Host-Roz) yup Bill
(09:31:34) (Host-Roz) okie on to Enoch
(09:31:35) (Raleigh) a snake is a dragon with no legs
(09:31:48) (Lynn) just imagine, three of us talking, one of us follows Lucifer. What a controvery among friends.
(09:31:53) (Meg) yes Bill, land Satan can correspond to one's lowest nature
(09:31:54) (Raleigh) scripture sayz lucifer will eat dust btw
(09:32:56) (Lynn) Sometimes, in a dust storm in Arizona, I eat dust.
(09:32:59) (Host-Roz) serpent can be symbolic of the serpent fire the Kundalini or kowledge without wisdom
(09:33:14) (Raleigh) a snake has small bones that were legs as well
(09:33:15) (Host-Roz) 16. Then shall they be taken away into the lowest depths of the fire in torments; and in confinement shall they be shut up for ever.
(09:33:56) (Host-Roz) 17. Immediately after this shall he, together with them, burn and perish; they shall be bound until the consummation of many generations.
(09:34:17) (Lynn) there´s a loop hole, until the concummation
(09:34:52) (Spirit) The passing by
(09:34:55) (Raleigh) all of the 3rd will be burned roz
(09:34:59) (Host-Roz) 18. Destroy all the souls addicted to dalliance, and the offspring of the Watchers, for they have tyrannized over mankind.
(09:35:14) (Raleigh) not eternal torcher /
(09:35:33) (Raleigh) cayce says simply eliminated //
(09:35:46) (Lynn) Have you heard the tale of the freedom fighters, who risked, heaven and were banished?
(09:35:47) (Host-Roz) 19. Let every oppressor perish from the face of the earth;20.Let every evil work be destroyed;
(09:36:46) (Host-Roz) 21. The plant of righteousness and of rectitude appears, and its produce2 become a blessing.22.Righteousness and rectitude shall be for ever planted with delight.And then shall all the saints give thanks, and live until they have begotten a thousand children,
(09:37:42) (Host-Roz) 23.And then shall all the saints give thanks, and live until they have begotten a thousand children, while the whole period of their youth, and their Sabbaths shall be completed in peace. In those days all the earth shall be cultivated in righteousness; it shall be wholly planted with trees, and filled with benediction; every tree of delight shall be planted in
(09:38:52) (Host-Roz) 24. In it shall vines be planted; and the vine, which shall be planted in it, shall yield fruit to satiety; every seed, which shall be sown in it, shall produce for one measure a thousand; and one measure of olives shall produce ten presses of oil
(09:38:57) (Raleigh) several chapters were removed from the book of enock i heard
(09:39:15) (Raleigh) was jesus soul enock roz?
(09:39:26) (Host-Roz) yes Ral it is in fragments not in sequence
(09:39:30) (Raleigh) k tx
(09:39:56) (Host-Roz) yes Ral first was Amelius then Adam and then Enoch
(09:40:01) (Raleigh) was jesus solul enock roz?
(09:40:07) (Raleigh) oh ohk
(09:40:09) (Raleigh) tx
(09:40:36) (Host-Roz) 25. Purify the earth from all oppression, from all injustice, from all crime, from all impiety, and from all the pollution, which is committed upon it. Ex~ terminate them from the earth.
(09:40:41) (ernie) they took out all the good partz
(09:40:48) (ernie) like the bible
(09:41:06) (Host-Roz) no not really ernie some of will knock off your socks
(09:41:26) (ernie) the earth wil do it itself
(09:41:43) (ernie) im shure
(09:41:51) (Host-Roz) 26.Then shall all the children of men be righteous, and all nations shall pay me divine honours, and bless me; and all shall adore me
(09:41:53) (ernie) Roz thats the good stuff
(09:41:58) (Lynn) And no more abusing God´s pets, animals.
(09:42:01) (ernie) agree with me woman
(09:42:04) (Host-Roz) yup
(09:42:14) (ernie) good lynn
(09:42:40) (Host-Roz) 27.The earth shall be cleansed from all corruption, from every crime, from all punishment, and from all suffering; neither will I again send a deluge upon it from generation to generation forever.
(09:43:51) (Host-Roz) this Enoch gets from the mouth of God
(09:43:55) (Host-Roz) 28.In those days I will open the treasures of blessing, which are in heaven, that I may cause them to descend upon
(09:45:21) (Host-Roz) (No CHAP.XI
(09:45:57) (Host-Roz) 1. Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened.
(09:47:05) (Host-Roz) 2. He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days.3.I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace.
(09:47:57) (Host-Roz) 5. Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women.
(09:48:53) (Cheryl) Excuse me, Roz, What happund to #4?
(09:49:15) (Host-Roz) he is directing these remarks to the fallen Angels
(09:50:11) (Host-Roz) oops Cheryl4. And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe.
(09:50:58) (Host-Roz) 7. That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition forever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
(09:53:18) (Host-Roz) 1. Then Enoch, passing on, said to Azazyel: Thou shalt not obtain peace. A great sentence is gone
(09:54:12) (Host-Roz) forth against thee. He shall bind thee;2.Neither shall relief, mercy, and supplication be thine, on account of the oppression which thou hast taught
(09:55:58) (Host-Roz) 3. And on account of every act of blasphemy, tyranny, and sin, which thou hast discovered to the
(09:57:17) (Host-Roz) 4. Then departing from him I spoke to them all together;5And they all became terrified, and trembled;
(09:58:20) (Host-Roz) 6. Beseeching me to write for them a memorial of supplication, that they might obtain forgiveness; and that I might make the memorial of their prayer ascend up before the God of heaven; because they could not themselves thenceforwards address him, nor raise up their eyes to heaven on account of the disgraceful offence for which they were judged.
(09:59:24) (Host-Roz) 9. And behold a dream came to me, and visions appeared above me. I fell down and saw a vision of punishment, that I might relate it to the sons of heaven, and reprove them. When I awoke I went to them. All being collected ~together stood weeping in Oubelseyael, which is situated between Libanos and Seneser, with their faces veiled.
(10:01:03) (Host-Roz) 10. I related in their presence all the visions which I had seen, and my dream;11.And began to utter these words of righteousness, reproving the Watchers of heaven.
(10:01:49) (merri) who make up the 'Watchers' of heaven?
(10:02:36) (Host-Roz) it was the responsibility of these fallen angels
(10:03:11) (merri) they were the watchers?
(10:03:35) (Host-Roz) yes
(10:03:36) (Spirit) Might that the Watchers were ones that were to look upon only and not participate with creation at that time
(10:03:47) (Host-Roz) 1. This is the book of the words of righteousness, and of the reproof of the Watchers, who belong to the world, according to that which He, who is holy and great, commanded in the vision. I perceived in my dream that I was now speaking with a tongue of flesh, and with my breath, which the Mighty One has put into the mouth of men, that they might converse with it.
(10:04:32) (Spirit) And wasn't Goliath a possible offspring of one of those Watchers?
(10:05:01) (Host-Roz) exackly Spirit they are of a different realm
(10:05:19) (Host-Roz) could have been
(10:05:26) (Host-Roz) 2. And understand with the heart. As he has created and given to men the power of comprehending the word of understanding, so has he created and given to me the power of reproving the Watchers,
(10:06:35) (Host-Roz) , the offspring of heaven. I have written your petition; and in my vision it has been shown me, that what you request will not be granted you as long as the world endures.1
(10:08:04) (Host-Roz) 3. Judgment has been passed upon you: your request will not be granted you 4.From this time forward, never shall you ascend to heaven; He has said, that on the earth4 He will hand you, as long as the world endures.
(10:09:43) (Host-Roz) 5. But before these things you shall behold the destruction of your beloved sons; you shall not possess
(10:10:23) (Host-Roz) 7. But you shall weep and supplicate in silence. The words of the book, which I wrote 8.A vision thus appeared to me.
(10:10:59) (Host-Roz) 9. Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning
(10:11:34) (Host-Roz) 10.They elevated me aloft to heaven. I pro ceded until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal,. A vibrating flame surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror
(10:11:55) (Host-Roz) thats all for tonite folks
(10:12:21) (Cheryl) Auw-ohh.. What happens next? Roz?
(10:12:52) (Host-Roz) a cliff hanger Cheryl
(10:14:35) (Wanda) Good night all. Thank you Roz. Very interesting.
(10:16:44) (Spirit) very good roz
(10:16:48) (Cris) Thanks for having us
(10:17:08) (Cheryl) Ty, Host-Roz for tonight :-D
(10:17:16) (Host-Roz) Enock gets gooder and gooder
(10:17:17) (WalksInSpirit) Very good study tonight, Roz! Thank you!
(10:17:26) (Host-Roz) yw
(09:24:03) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:24:23) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:24:29) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:24:30) (Lynn) so be it, my Lord
(09:24:30) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:24:30) (merri) Amen
(09:24:31) (Cris) Amen
(09:24:31) (ky-mike) AMEN
(09:24:42) (Spirit) amen
(09:24:45) (Bill) Amen
(09:25:19) (Host-Roz) Some questions were asked last week about the role of Satan in the role with the fallen angels who went into the daughters of men and produced giants, who them became cannibals and ate the populace.This is an explanation of Satan;
(09:26:08) (Host-Roz) ‘The word “Satan” is derived from Aramaic or the
(09:26:50) (ky-mike) lucafer belzabub
(09:26:53) (Host-Roz) Chaldean word, Sata, which means” to miss the mark,” “to mislead,” or “to go astray.” Satana is a noun denoting the action of the verb Sata. It is used as a noun and an adjective
(09:27:33) (Host-Roz) For example, when an Eastener makes a mistake, he spits on Satan. When he doing something wrong, he says: “It was not Satan caused me to do it.” Such h excuses often help escape punishment and embarrassment.
(09:28:03) (Lynn) Knocking him down was Satan´s idea but jumping up and down on him was my own. lol
(09:28:15) (Host-Roz) Satan, as a person, is nowhere mentioned among God’s creation. In Genesis 3 : 1 it is a Ithovey ( snake or “serpent”) which tempts Eve, and not Satan. Tb mention of angels, Satan, or any other intermediaries’
(09:28:57) (Host-Roz) .God acts as a father. He reproves Adam and. rebukes Cain, instructs Noah to build the ark, and appears to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. In the o1den God seemed to have no advisers, intermediaries, on such as angels
(09:29:47) (Host-Roz) The word “Satan” as a noun, is not found in the Pentateuch... It appears once in the book of Numbers, but as a verbal noun, the Hebrew saten, which means “to mislead
(09:29:59) (WalksInSpirit) Hmmm... that word Ithovey is very close to our word "iktome" for evil one.
(09:30:02) (Raleigh) define Itheory pls roz
(09:30:06) (Host-Roz) everyone clear?
(09:30:23) (Host-Roz) snake or serpent Ral
(09:30:23) (Lynn) ya
(09:30:27) (Cris) yes
(09:30:29) (Raleigh) k tx
(09:30:30) (Cheryl) yah
(09:30:37) (Raleigh) yeah /)
(09:30:51) (Bill) satan=ego
(09:31:06) (Host-Roz) could be used perhaps to include all the fallen angels?
(09:31:19) (Host-Roz) yup Bill
(09:31:34) (Host-Roz) okie on to Enoch
(09:31:35) (Raleigh) a snake is a dragon with no legs
(09:31:48) (Lynn) just imagine, three of us talking, one of us follows Lucifer. What a controvery among friends.
(09:31:53) (Meg) yes Bill, land Satan can correspond to one's lowest nature
(09:31:54) (Raleigh) scripture sayz lucifer will eat dust btw
(09:32:56) (Lynn) Sometimes, in a dust storm in Arizona, I eat dust.
(09:32:59) (Host-Roz) serpent can be symbolic of the serpent fire the Kundalini or kowledge without wisdom
(09:33:14) (Raleigh) a snake has small bones that were legs as well
(09:33:15) (Host-Roz) 16. Then shall they be taken away into the lowest depths of the fire in torments; and in confinement shall they be shut up for ever.
(09:33:56) (Host-Roz) 17. Immediately after this shall he, together with them, burn and perish; they shall be bound until the consummation of many generations.
(09:34:17) (Lynn) there´s a loop hole, until the concummation
(09:34:52) (Spirit) The passing by
(09:34:55) (Raleigh) all of the 3rd will be burned roz
(09:34:59) (Host-Roz) 18. Destroy all the souls addicted to dalliance, and the offspring of the Watchers, for they have tyrannized over mankind.
(09:35:14) (Raleigh) not eternal torcher /
(09:35:33) (Raleigh) cayce says simply eliminated //
(09:35:46) (Lynn) Have you heard the tale of the freedom fighters, who risked, heaven and were banished?
(09:35:47) (Host-Roz) 19. Let every oppressor perish from the face of the earth;20.Let every evil work be destroyed;
(09:36:46) (Host-Roz) 21. The plant of righteousness and of rectitude appears, and its produce2 become a blessing.22.Righteousness and rectitude shall be for ever planted with delight.And then shall all the saints give thanks, and live until they have begotten a thousand children,
(09:37:42) (Host-Roz) 23.And then shall all the saints give thanks, and live until they have begotten a thousand children, while the whole period of their youth, and their Sabbaths shall be completed in peace. In those days all the earth shall be cultivated in righteousness; it shall be wholly planted with trees, and filled with benediction; every tree of delight shall be planted in
(09:38:52) (Host-Roz) 24. In it shall vines be planted; and the vine, which shall be planted in it, shall yield fruit to satiety; every seed, which shall be sown in it, shall produce for one measure a thousand; and one measure of olives shall produce ten presses of oil
(09:38:57) (Raleigh) several chapters were removed from the book of enock i heard
(09:39:15) (Raleigh) was jesus soul enock roz?
(09:39:26) (Host-Roz) yes Ral it is in fragments not in sequence
(09:39:30) (Raleigh) k tx
(09:39:56) (Host-Roz) yes Ral first was Amelius then Adam and then Enoch
(09:40:01) (Raleigh) was jesus solul enock roz?
(09:40:07) (Raleigh) oh ohk
(09:40:09) (Raleigh) tx
(09:40:36) (Host-Roz) 25. Purify the earth from all oppression, from all injustice, from all crime, from all impiety, and from all the pollution, which is committed upon it. Ex~ terminate them from the earth.
(09:40:41) (ernie) they took out all the good partz
(09:40:48) (ernie) like the bible
(09:41:06) (Host-Roz) no not really ernie some of will knock off your socks
(09:41:26) (ernie) the earth wil do it itself
(09:41:43) (ernie) im shure
(09:41:51) (Host-Roz) 26.Then shall all the children of men be righteous, and all nations shall pay me divine honours, and bless me; and all shall adore me
(09:41:53) (ernie) Roz thats the good stuff
(09:41:58) (Lynn) And no more abusing God´s pets, animals.
(09:42:01) (ernie) agree with me woman
(09:42:04) (Host-Roz) yup
(09:42:14) (ernie) good lynn
(09:42:40) (Host-Roz) 27.The earth shall be cleansed from all corruption, from every crime, from all punishment, and from all suffering; neither will I again send a deluge upon it from generation to generation forever.
(09:43:51) (Host-Roz) this Enoch gets from the mouth of God
(09:43:55) (Host-Roz) 28.In those days I will open the treasures of blessing, which are in heaven, that I may cause them to descend upon
(09:45:21) (Host-Roz) (No CHAP.XI
(09:45:57) (Host-Roz) 1. Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened.
(09:47:05) (Host-Roz) 2. He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days.3.I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace.
(09:47:57) (Host-Roz) 5. Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women.
(09:48:53) (Cheryl) Excuse me, Roz, What happund to #4?
(09:49:15) (Host-Roz) he is directing these remarks to the fallen Angels
(09:50:11) (Host-Roz) oops Cheryl4. And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe.
(09:50:58) (Host-Roz) 7. That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition forever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
(09:53:18) (Host-Roz) 1. Then Enoch, passing on, said to Azazyel: Thou shalt not obtain peace. A great sentence is gone
(09:54:12) (Host-Roz) forth against thee. He shall bind thee;2.Neither shall relief, mercy, and supplication be thine, on account of the oppression which thou hast taught
(09:55:58) (Host-Roz) 3. And on account of every act of blasphemy, tyranny, and sin, which thou hast discovered to the
(09:57:17) (Host-Roz) 4. Then departing from him I spoke to them all together;5And they all became terrified, and trembled;
(09:58:20) (Host-Roz) 6. Beseeching me to write for them a memorial of supplication, that they might obtain forgiveness; and that I might make the memorial of their prayer ascend up before the God of heaven; because they could not themselves thenceforwards address him, nor raise up their eyes to heaven on account of the disgraceful offence for which they were judged.
(09:59:24) (Host-Roz) 9. And behold a dream came to me, and visions appeared above me. I fell down and saw a vision of punishment, that I might relate it to the sons of heaven, and reprove them. When I awoke I went to them. All being collected ~together stood weeping in Oubelseyael, which is situated between Libanos and Seneser, with their faces veiled.
(10:01:03) (Host-Roz) 10. I related in their presence all the visions which I had seen, and my dream;11.And began to utter these words of righteousness, reproving the Watchers of heaven.
(10:01:49) (merri) who make up the 'Watchers' of heaven?
(10:02:36) (Host-Roz) it was the responsibility of these fallen angels
(10:03:11) (merri) they were the watchers?
(10:03:35) (Host-Roz) yes
(10:03:36) (Spirit) Might that the Watchers were ones that were to look upon only and not participate with creation at that time
(10:03:47) (Host-Roz) 1. This is the book of the words of righteousness, and of the reproof of the Watchers, who belong to the world, according to that which He, who is holy and great, commanded in the vision. I perceived in my dream that I was now speaking with a tongue of flesh, and with my breath, which the Mighty One has put into the mouth of men, that they might converse with it.
(10:04:32) (Spirit) And wasn't Goliath a possible offspring of one of those Watchers?
(10:05:01) (Host-Roz) exackly Spirit they are of a different realm
(10:05:19) (Host-Roz) could have been
(10:05:26) (Host-Roz) 2. And understand with the heart. As he has created and given to men the power of comprehending the word of understanding, so has he created and given to me the power of reproving the Watchers,
(10:06:35) (Host-Roz) , the offspring of heaven. I have written your petition; and in my vision it has been shown me, that what you request will not be granted you as long as the world endures.1
(10:08:04) (Host-Roz) 3. Judgment has been passed upon you: your request will not be granted you 4.From this time forward, never shall you ascend to heaven; He has said, that on the earth4 He will hand you, as long as the world endures.
(10:09:43) (Host-Roz) 5. But before these things you shall behold the destruction of your beloved sons; you shall not possess
(10:10:23) (Host-Roz) 7. But you shall weep and supplicate in silence. The words of the book, which I wrote 8.A vision thus appeared to me.
(10:10:59) (Host-Roz) 9. Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning
(10:11:34) (Host-Roz) 10.They elevated me aloft to heaven. I pro ceded until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal,. A vibrating flame surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror
(10:11:55) (Host-Roz) thats all for tonite folks
(10:12:21) (Cheryl) Auw-ohh.. What happens next? Roz?
(10:12:52) (Host-Roz) a cliff hanger Cheryl
(10:14:35) (Wanda) Good night all. Thank you Roz. Very interesting.
(10:16:44) (Spirit) very good roz
(10:16:48) (Cris) Thanks for having us
(10:17:08) (Cheryl) Ty, Host-Roz for tonight :-D
(10:17:16) (Host-Roz) Enock gets gooder and gooder
(10:17:17) (WalksInSpirit) Very good study tonight, Roz! Thank you!
(10:17:26) (Host-Roz) yw
