"Proteins:" 02-07-06

[WalksInSpirit]

Health Chat: 02-07-06

"Proteins"

(09:16:52) (Host-Nick) Tonight's topic will be Proteins
(09:17:18) (Host-Nick) perhaps a continuation of last time although some topics were not covered.
(09:18:29) (Host-Nick) Did we cover, glycine and collagen?
(09:19:23) (patricia) don't remember collagen being discussed
(09:19:50) (Cris) Isn't that supposed to give us our youth back Nick?
(09:20:20) (Host-Nick) Yes, and we need to go into chemistry a bit to explain.
(09:21:10) (Cris) Nicks giving us the fountain of youth too
(09:23:54) (Host-Nick) Collagen is the most abundant protein in mammals. About one quarter of all of the protein in your body is collagen. Collagen is the main protein of connective tissue. It has great tensile strength, and is the main component of ligaments and tendons. It is responsible for skin elasticity, and its degradation leads to wrinkles that accompany aging.
(09:25:17) (Roz) can we get this by the barrel Nick?
(09:26:43) (Leon) When it comes to aging , you have my attention
(09:26:52) (Host-Nick) So collagen, a spiraling chain of amino acids linked together, is the key base upon which our muscles and various tissues function.
(09:27:40) (Host-Nick) It also forms the base on which bone is built and calcified by the osteoblasts when they deposit calcium phoshate to make up our bones.
(09:28:26) (Host-Nick) This is important, because there may be conditions in which there is a loss of bone mass and everyone assumes that it is because of calcium deficiency.
(09:29:24) (Host-Nick) It could also be due to the inability of the liver and the blood enzymes to manufacture the collagen base on which the bones are calcified.
(09:29:44) (Host-Nick) Has anyone any questions? :o)
(09:30:10) (Roz) can this be aided by a supplement?
(09:30:28) (Alec) not me but just a comment-i never realized that a lack of collagen could be a cause of calcium deficiency-that os fascinating!
(09:31:15) (Cris) Could that be why some people in their 40's are on Fosmax?
(09:31:24) (Host-Nick) Yes, now glycine is needed to make collagen, also hydroxy proline.
(09:31:57) (Cris) Doesn't L-lysine help in the formation of collagen?
(09:32:26) (Leon) I have that on Cris
(09:32:52) (Host-Nick) The phosphorus is definitely needed also the calcium, but if you have not got the collagen to build the substrate, the base layer, then little bone will be built. Also excess calcium may be deposited for the amount of collagen present and brittle bones may result.
(09:35:20) (Host-Nick) lysine is necesary also. Now the two amino acids, proline and lysine are undergo an interaction with vitamin C which adds one of the OH groups on vitaminC to the amino acid. This forms hydroxy-lysine and hydroxy proline.
(09:36:45) (Host-Nick) Collagen has an unusual amino acid composition. It contains large amounts of glycine and proline, as well as two amino acids that are not inserted directly by ribosomes – hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine – the former composing a rather large percentage of the total amino acids.
(09:38:41) (Host-Nick) This is related to why vitamin C deficiencies can cause scurvy, a disease that leads to loss of teeth and easy bruising caused by a reduction in strength of connective tissue due to a lack of collagen or defective collagen. The white collagen that makes up the matrix of most connective tissue in mammals consists of inter-woven fibres of the protein collagen.
(09:40:11) (Host-Nick) Has anyone any questions?
(09:40:52) (Lory) Have no idea what all this means, Nick....
(09:41:10) (Roz) does ingesting Vit C help w/ collagen production
(09:41:49) (Leon) How often do we consume orange juice everyday, once a week ect
(09:42:05) (Cris) If it does I'm buying another bottle tomorrow Roz
(09:42:10) (Host-Nick) Yes, vitamin C is necesary to add the OH atoms to the proline and the lysine groups so that they fit in the matrix of collagen.
(09:42:44) (Host-Nick) Remember to consume fruits with fruits and not with proteins or veggies. :o0
(09:42:46) (Cris) *Reminder...... Buy more C and L-lysine
(09:46:46) (Host-Nick) Now the reason that glycine and hydroxy proline make up the major part of collagen is that glycine is the simplest amino acid. It has not got extra oxygen or nitrogen atoms on it nor any long chains or rings loike other amino acids.
(09:47:56) (Host-Nick) The extra atom on the glycne molecule is one simple hydrogen atom, no more.
(09:48:53) (ernie) no small thing like a single simple hydrogen atom
(09:49:39) (Host-Nick) This means that the central carbon has just a C<OO acid group and a NH2 amino group with the other two places on the cross structure are simple hydrogens.
(09:49:47) (ernie) what you all talking bout
(09:50:09) (ernie) ok
(09:52:11) (Host-Nick) The hydrogen can fit into the samll ring on the proline, which allows the collagen fiber to contract into the tightest spiral of known proteins. This adds structural strength to the connective tissue, tendons, ligaments, bones and muscle structures.
(09:53:06) (ernie) so hydro is good for the joints
(09:53:07) (ernie) good
(09:53:48) (Host-Nick) Glycine is an ignored amino acid, since the body can build it from breaking down almost any other amino acid. However, when the liver is toxic, or the blood is toxic the ability to synthesize diminishes and glycine may be deficient, resulting in a weakening of tissues.
(09:58:14) (Host-Nick) Oops, has anyone any questions?
(09:58:40) (Cheryl) What about a congested liver? Nick?
(09:59:32) (Host-Nick) A congested area, provided it is not cancerous should have a castor oil pack treatment and care must be taken to eat an alkaline diet.
(09:59:54) (Cheryl) k, ty, Nick
(10:00:54) (Cheryl) alkaline? Ray-0-Vac or Dura-Cell? lol
(10:01:07) (Host-Nick) Protein is necesary for manufacturing hormones, enzymes, antibodies, and tissues. This is accomplished by the body breaking down the proteins into their component amino acids.
(10:01:42) (ron) lol
(10:02:16) (Lynn) sudden withdrawal from caffein, sugar, junk food, eat only whats good for me. Second day. Do I get to die? What do you say, Host Nick?
(10:02:38) (Lynn) former addict
(10:02:42) (Lynn) to sugar
(10:02:56) (Host-Nick) Brown rice and beans are rich in proteins and amino acids. However they both have deficiencies as far as the total variety of amino acids needed for mammalian physiology.
(10:04:37) (Host-Nick) Try an apples fast when you do this, eat nothing but raw apples for three days. This will minimize the transition effect.
(10:05:05) (Lynn) is this for me, nothing but raw apples. Are you answering me, please.
(10:05:24) (Host-Nick) Drink nothing but good quality mineral or spring water distilled may also be used. You may have a cup of unsweetened black coffee in the morning.
(10:05:50) (Lynn) I´ll do the apples .
(10:05:54) (Lynn) and the water
(10:06:02) (Host-Nick) When mixng beans and brown rice, one finds that the protein deficiencies in both are 'neutralized' by the other.
(10:06:37) (Lynn) thank you
(10:06:59) (Host-Nick) This food comboination forms a complete protein
(10:07:37) (merri) does it matter what kind of beans Nick?
(10:07:37) (Host-Nick) To make a complete protein combine brown rice with: Beans, Nuts, Seeds and wheat.
(10:08:23) (Lynn) NIck, I´m crunching an organic apple.
(10:08:26) (Host-Nick) Preferably soaked overnight if they are hard beans, merri. Justr make sure they are soft when you eat them. If they are crunchy you will get gas.
(10:08:52) (merri) TY
(10:09:22) (Host-Nick) Beans may be combined with Brown rice, Corn, Seeds, Nuts and wheat
(10:09:40) (Qrious) pinto beans with rice is good
(10:09:46) (Bill) try soaking the beans with a table sthingy of baking soda suppose to de-gas them
(10:09:59) (Qrious) or black eyed peas.
(10:10:11) (ernie) it work and it de gases you
(10:10:18) (Qrious) lol Bill.. does it work..
(10:10:28) (Bill) evidently
(10:10:35) (ernie) not the beaners it work s with any food if you have hart burn too
(10:10:48) (Lynn) Also, I cook carrots in beans, no gas problem. I´m vegetarian.
(10:10:53) (Qrious) soaked in beano then.
(10:10:57) (Host-Nick) There is a lot of controversy on this vegetarian complete protein source. Many nutritionists insist that a complete protein meal with all the essential amino acids can be got from the vegetable kingdom.
(10:10:59) (WalksInSpirit) Qrious, add those little smoky sausages to the pinto beans and rice... It's great!
(10:11:22) (Host-Nick) Many biochemists insist that certain amino acids are only found in animal protein.
(10:11:42) (Leon) Are pine seeds good for you, Nick?
(10:11:49) (Qrious) sounds good Walks.. might beat the sour kraut.. its gassy also..
(10:12:03) (Bill) are you a squirrel Leon?
(10:12:08) (ernie) si?
(10:12:22) (Host-Nick) On this, there is so much data one way or the other, that I suspend judgement. Best to alkalinize the body and bloodstream, and allow the liver to build its needs.
(10:12:37) (Host-Nick) Has anyone any questions on proteins?
(10:12:45) (Leon) Saw them at Sam's
(10:12:59) (Qrious) eaten without sugar right?
(10:13:48) (Host-Nick) Sugar is so fast in digesting and absorption that if eaten with a slow digesting food, it will ferment in the stomach causes acidosis and gas.
(10:13:51) (Lynn) I´m considering going to vegan, will there be any protein for me except beans?
(10:14:28) (Host-Nick) Nuts, Seeds, There are good quality proteins in organic whole grains.
(10:14:48) (Lynn) Good. I love nuts. But I heard they have yeast.
(10:14:49) (Qrious) w b Leon.. and thanks Nick.. that makes sense.
(10:15:12) (Qrious) eat lots of macadamian nuts Lynn.
(10:15:34) (Host-Nick) Also not all vegetables, succulents and fruits are proteinless. You et some proteins in fruits and succulents, even thouh the plant made them to be eaten by you and other animal friends.
(10:15:49) (Lynn) NIck, how long will it take to get these sugar and caffein poisons out of my system?
(10:15:55) (Lynn) I am going to go Vegan.
(10:15:56) (Host-Nick) Has anyone any health questions?(10:16:06) (Qrious) isn't avocado more like a protien Nick?
(10:16:27) (ernie) fat protine high in fat
(10:16:38) (Roz) with all the trace minerals Qrious
(10:16:39) (Qrious) but good fat ernie..
(10:16:51) (Host-Nick) depends on your age, diet, throughout your life, how much exercise you did, your current condition and your constitution. It would be best to have a consultation with a naturopath or nutritionist.
(10:17:09) (Lynn) I had a check up. Health near perfect.
(10:17:26) (lilith) Nick - wouldn't recommend it for people, but just plain ol grass is 96% protein
(10:17:28) (Bill) then why wreck it?
(10:17:33) (Lynn) thank ypu, Nick
(10:17:37) (Host-Nick) It has a lot of fat, Qrious, however it is cis-fats not trnas-fats like in margarine found in supermarkets.
(10:17:57) (Lynn) maybe wheat grass, lilith?
(10:18:16) (lilith) no, just plain grass
10:18:34) (Qrious) high density lipo and compared to low density lipo.
(10:18:36) (Lynn) Where do I get it. NOt out of MY back yard. I´ve got 12 dogs!
(10:18:36) (Host-Nick) It still is better to get rid of the buildups if you have not done it before.
(10:18:47) (Host-Nick) lmao, Lynn
(10:19:27) (lilith) its for farm animals, Lynn, people just plain get sick if they try to use it for their protein
(10:19:29) (Qrious) table sthingy of castor oil.. would that work for builups?
(10:19:57) (ron) 12 dogs...it must be difficult trying to walk to your car
(10:20:01) (Lynn) My system is very clean since I am already vegetarian, Q
(10:20:05) (Host-Nick) I heard of someone who drank a pint a day, Qrious
(10:20:16) (Cheryl) mm, cottage cheese & honey
(10:20:27) (Andrew) 12 doggies. thanksgiving must be a riot at your place, Lynn....
(10:20:30) (Roz) but they didnt have a cough Nick?
(10:20:40) (Host-Nick) Has anyone any health questions?
(10:20:41) (Qrious) now vinegar.. I've heard of .. but castor oil.. wouldn't the ricen kill them if they O.d'd.(10:20:44) (Lynn) They came with the room mate. I was in rescue mode.
(10:21:21) (Host-Nick) No, Qrious, the ricin, is water soluble, the water layer is pressed out of the oil during the extraction process.
(10:21:56) (Host-Nick) OK it is Open Chat
(10:22:02) (Qrious) oh.. yeah.. that makes sense Nick.. the heating process.. at controlled temperture.. gotcha.
(10:22:29) (lilith) help me out here, Nick, please - hasn't "ricen" been mentioned in the terrorist warnings - or am I confusing that with another such sounding thingy?
(10:22:46) (Lynn) Thank you. I will do the apples. etc. and I will be vegan and God, how many days left written in your book up there?
(10:22:52) (Nick) You do not have to heat it. Castor oil is so light and viscous that it can be separated mechanically.
(10:23:15) (Cris) That was a poison that someone tried to send wasn't it?
(10:23:36) (Lynn) But I thought an apple got me in this mess in the first place. You know an organic Garden of Eden apple.
(10:23:41) (lilith) think so, Cris - is that the same thing mentioned here??
(10:24:01) (ron) are you still in the Garden of Eden?
(10:24:19) (Qrious) was learning about castor oil plants last night.. said that heating to separate ricen from the riconogen.. was critical..so heating was used to do so.
(10:24:25) (Nick) Ricin is a serious poison, it is in the castor bean, but proper extraction of the oil while compressing the beans leaves the water-soluble ricin in the water while the oil phase is free from it.
(10:24:25) (Lynn) I don´t now where I am, want a list of withdrawal symptoms?
(10:24:37) (Eva) This has been very interesting. Thank you and good night
(10:24:49) (lilith) ty Nick - IC -
(10:24:59) (Qrious) yes.. onle bean can kill and young child if eaten.
(10:25:10) (Qrious) one.. bean I mean.
(10:25:45) (Lynn) if the child chokes on it?
(10:26:01) (Qrious) was told kava was taken off the market.. but no reason why was given by the G.N.C . store.
(10:26:02) (Cris) Castor bean plants grow wild in the west and kids are taught to leave them alone
(10:26:09) (Nick) The extraction isn't easy, it is best to use organic since most organic producers will take more care.
(10:26:27) (Roz) some is cold pressed
(10:26:54) (Cris) Baar castor oil is cold pressed
(10:27:12) (Bill) there's no need to drink castor oil anyway
(10:27:37) (lilith) well thank God for that, Bill!
(10:27:48) (Qrious) well.. it does irritate the bowels.. Bill.. and you know what that does.. prune juice city.. lol
(10:27:58) (WalksInSpirit) It makes me sick as a dog!
(10:28:49) (Roz) helps with child birth
(10:29:03) (Qrious) I couldn't stomach the taste.. mom used to do that table sthingyful before bed thing.. yech.
(10:29:05) (Cris) I wish I'd known that years ago Roz
(10:29:33) (Roz) doctor orders
(10:29:42) (Qrious) yeah Roz.. bet the kid didn't like it either.. and wanted out.. lol
(10:29:56) (Roz) exackle Q
(10:29:57) (Bill) i know a 400lb. lady who the docs. made drink a couple pints of castor oil before going into surgery you sure didn't want to be between her and the can for a while
(10:30:29) (Qrious) not during lunch Bill.. lol
(10:30:31) (Roz) watch out for flying glass
(10:30:34) (lilith) oh Bill - fof lmao!
(10:30:36) (merri) lol
(10:30:55) (Nick) Castor oil's best application is external to promote circulation and waste removal. Drinking it promotes waste removal throughout the digestive tube. :oP
(10:31:56) (Cheryl) Didn't Cayce sya it'll help w/ assimilations as well as eliminations? Nick?
(10:32:08) (Qrious) chili pepers were interesting.. the juices somehow causes the blood to be stimulated on the area that it is placed upon.. helps with bruises..
(10:32:19) (Nick) A cup a day, keeps the labanza away! :oD
(10:32:34) (Roz) and pain too Q
(10:32:37) (Cris) It used to be used as a tonic for children many years ago
(10:32:44) (lilith) how does that work, Roz?
(10:32:59) (Qrious) yes , pain also Roz.. that is correct.
(10:33:26) (Cris) I'm guessing it helped the contractions
(10:33:26) (lilith) also sulpher powder mixed with molasses - UGGHH
(10:33:29) (Bill) chili peppers can blister your skin
(10:33:43) (Cheryl) What is "labanza"? Anybody?
(10:33:52) (Qrious) well.. haven't read that Bill...
(10:33:53) (Cris) especially if labor was slow
(10:34:16) (Nick) Labanza is an italian term for a pot belly.
(10:34:25) (lilith) oh yeah, Q - many people allergic to chili peppers - big time
(10:34:32) (Roz) evidently starts the labor
(10:34:41) (Qrious) for labor.. coca leaves were chewed by the aztecans.. in labor camps Cris
(10:35:17) (lilith) well Q - - that's why so many people chew the coca leaves - guess where we get cocaine!
(10:35:23) (Cheryl) I resemble that remark! Nick :o0
(10:35:36) (Cris) Thank goodness my baby days are far behind me
(10:35:36) (Qrious) and heroine lilith.. lets not forget.. lol
(10:35:56) (lilith) thought heroin came from poppies! no?

[WalksInSpirit]

(10:36:05) (Bill) yes Lil
(10:36:09) (patricia) opium comes from poppies
(10:36:11) (Cris) It used to be a secret ingredient in some colas too
(10:36:12) (Qrious) oh.. labor.. not as in work labor.. duh.. I feel stupid.. lol
(10:36:23) (Bill) right Pat slap me silly
(10:36:28) (lilith) cocaine came from the coca leaves = yeah, but once processed, pat, doesnt it become heroin?
(10:36:40) (Bill) not hard to see who the druggys are here :o)
(10:36:51) (Cris) it becomes cocaine
(10:36:52) (Cheryl) Is that new appetite suppressant Hoodia Godornii any healthy to take, to curb cravings & appetites? Nick?
(10:36:54) (patricia) i dunno lilith, i never tried to make any
(10:37:09) (Nick) The coca leaf is more nutritious and less toxic to the body than caffeine. Unfortunately cocaine is far more dangerous than caffeine, when the two chemicals are isolated.
(10:37:17) (Qrious) I have a book on plants Bill.. the druggest is nature..
(10:37:29) (Cris) Some of us get our information from the news Bill :o)
(10:37:32) (lilith) unfortunately not I, Bill - old people watch Geographic a lot!!! laffin Me eitehr pat, but bet there's more money in it than I make! lol
(10:37:34) (Nick) I have no idea what it is, Cheryl
(10:38:07) (Cheryl) That's okay, Nikc, I don't know either, lol
(10:38:08) (lilith) well, Cheryl, if ol Hoodie
(10:38:28) (Qrious) a peyote is funny looking.. cant see why someone would want to smoke it.. or chew it.. they must have been really bored.
(10:39:12) (lilith) for the high, darlin' & the exotic/strange dreaming
(10:39:37) (Cheryl) I thought it was a plant, not a critter, Lilith, lol
(10:40:08) (lilith) well, dang, darlin' - I thought it was a plant, too!
(10:40:17) (Qrious) psychotropic effects are very different from the euphoria effects.. didn't know there was a difference.
(10:40:17) (Qrious) psychotropic effects are very different from the euphoria effects.. didn't know there was a difference.
(10:40:43) (lilith) what the heck do I know? have shot my wad of Geographic info, right about now!
(10:41:22) (Roz) peyote is cactus isnt it
(10:41:46) (patricia) well, ratz, i thought peyote was a bird
(10:41:54) (Cris) mushrooms growing in aged cow dung
(10:42:04) (WalksInSpirit) The Native American Church tookt he issue of peyote use all the way to the Supreme Court, and won. And it resulted in the Native American Freedom Of Religion Act.
(10:42:09) (Roz) oh yum yum
(10:42:31) (Nick) Aha! now we know why Cris goes rock hunting in the mountains :o)
(10:42:44) (Qrious) well.. not really.. cause there is this cactus.. that is use to get you drunk.. and intoxicant.. when you drink it when it has been fermented.. I think that is what tequila is..
(10:42:46) (Cris) Not for that.......
(10:43:23) (Cris) Last time I went for coal shale and some that I split had tiny fern fossils
(10:43:50) (lilith) oh Cris - how fantastic!
(10:44:11) (Cris) I had more bark fossils than anything
(10:44:29) (Roz) but it has to have a worm in it Qrious
(10:44:42) (Qrious) Indian tobacco was interesting as well.. used medicinally.. but with overindulgence.. its a poison..
(10:44:44) (Nick) Have you got a health question, lux?
(10:44:50) (Cris) must be for the protein Roz
(10:45:00) (lilith) oh Cris - laffin
(10:45:06) (Roz) yah and esthetic value
(10:45:10) (Qrious) lol Roz..
(10:45:36) (Nick) Like almost everything, WalksInSpirit
(10:45:36) (lux) I see ty
(10:46:09) (Nick) What was your interest, lux?
(10:46:12) (lux) I guess it can wait not too important
(10:46:17) (Qrious) didn't know we got camphor from a tree in India.. was almost wiped out because of demand from the u.s and England.
(10:46:38) (patricia) if you have a question it is important.
(10:46:41) (Roz) is that the kind that makes ya chew the rug Qrious
(10:46:58) (Qrious) navy men washed their clothes in it so moths wouldn't eat it.
(10:46:58) (lilith) lux (light?) what DOES interest you in a Cayce chat?
(10:47:24) (lilith) you are important here, talk away, child!
(10:47:27) (Roz) yah kno w the price fo rose oil is now $700.00 per 1/2 ounce
(10:47:34) (Qrious) its so toxic.. we can only use it as a liniment Roz.
(10:47:58) (WalksInSpirit) My Grandmother kept a bottle of Campho-Phonique on her all the time.
(10:48:11) (Qrious) wow.. thats alot of dough.
(10:48:16) (Nick) Camphor is a good external anesthetic, helps inflammations
(10:48:17) (Cheryl) wow, Roz unbelievable! :o0
(10:48:30) (Cris) I remember that stuff we had it too but I seldom remember it being used
(10:49:09) (lilith) wonder how many roses used to get that attar, Roz? must be by the ton
(10:49:13) (Qrious) yeah Walks.. I remember the smell.. it will waken you like smelling salts if knocked out.
(10:49:28) (lux) topics are interesting sometimes
(10:49:33) (Roz) guess stomping'em is a hard job
(10:49:40) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Yeah! It's stout alright!
(10:49:54) (Qrious) it was the aroma that was toxic Nick.. books says it.
(10:50:24) (Andrew) who wants to stomp roses ?!?!?!?!?
(10:50:39) (Nick) Spirits of camphor helped fungal conditions also, if I remember the Cayce readings correctly.
(10:50:41) (Bill) Cayce said to use Camphor for ingrown toe nails
(10:50:51) (Cris) If I'm not mistaken camphor was also used as a preservative wasn't it?
(10:50:52) (lilith) Andrew - Bill, & Nick & WIS & I - we will mash the heck outta them rose petals!!
(10:51:09) (Roz) like grapes Andrew?
(10:51:09) (lilith) as in mothballs, cris
(10:51:12) (Qrious) for foot fungus Nick.. the Army said to urinate on you feet..
(10:51:13) (Nick) Just one per flower. :o)
(10:51:15) (Andrew) well spoken and a rose is a rose by any other name....
(10:51:32) (WalksInSpirit) Right on Lil! LOL
(10:51:34) (Andrew) grapes of wrath grinning
(10:51:42) (patricia) oh, Q, that is gross!!!!!!
(10:52:00) (Cheryl) Roz, U R a Rose, sweetie :-)
(10:52:18) (Qrious) well.. you should here how we wiped with one tissue of toilet paper patricia.. now thats gross.
(10:52:21) (lilith) well, pat - try not to faint - same thing to do if stung by stinging nettles while in a field - pain is atrocious & that's how the doctors tell you to take care of it
(10:52:56) (Qrious) had to poke you middle finger in the center.. to get it just right.
(10:53:10) (lilith) aw Q
(10:53:14) (patricia) OMG, Q!
(10:53:19) (Qrious) truth to tell..
(10:53:36) (merri) thankyou for sharing that with us Q!!lol
(10:53:38) (Roz) use 3 corncobs Qrious 2 red and 1 white
(10:53:43) (Qrious) and those guys in the desert with all that sand around.. ouch..
(10:53:49) (patricia) why did they not give you more than one sheet of tissue, Q?
(10:54:05) (lilith) well Q - more than one POW has done the same thing & cut cards for one little piece of toilet tissue
(10:54:08) (Qrious) just climb up a tree and slide down like a bear Roz.
(10:54:12) (Cheryl) My Mama had a brother that died, when he was young & folks would go in his empty bedroom & comment How they smelled roses coming from his Bedroom. Roses were his favorite flower.
(10:54:48) (Bill) good story Cheryl
(10:54:58) (Qrious) have you ever wondered why the Arabs eat with only one hand patricia..
(10:55:06) (Roz) Roses fragrance is emblematic of acension
(10:55:14) (WalksInSpirit) Cool, Cheryl! He was letting yall know he was alright. :-)
(10:55:18) (Cris) My mother died of lung cancer and we sometimes smell her cigarette smoke when we remember her
(10:55:21) (Qrious) because it is an insult to wave at them with you left hand.
(10:55:28) (Cheryl) Some of us may have an issue of fouler odors, were we to pass, he-he
(10:55:32) (Bill) cause they need the other one for talking Q
(10:55:55) (Cris) Because the other hand takes care of bodly functions
(10:55:57) (Qrious) the left one uses the middle finger tissue tactic..
(10:55:59) (lilith) isn't that odd, tho, Cris - always wondered WHERE the cigarette smoke is, do you? Has to be somewhere!
(10:57:12) (Qrious) my brother used to mock them when in the Gulf war.. he is such a doof.
(10:57:15) (Cris) I think people manifest the smells you remembered them by
(10:57:21) (Bill) L&L TY Nick
(10:57:34) (Qrious) he'd always wave his left hand and smile..
(10:57:41) (lilith) probably so, Cris
(10:57:54) (Cheryl) What if you were a rootin' pootin' machine?
(10:58:10) (Qrious) oh.. Cris.. that is so true.. cause if you had to stand next to a Jordanian.. you would gag.
(10:58:23) (Cris) Cheryl we would hope that problem was solved in the afterlife.......
(10:58:33) (Qrious) the Jordanians only bathe once every friday.
(10:58:59) (WalksInSpirit) OMG!
(10:59:05) (Qrious) would have lost a fortune on Rose oil on them..
(10:59:06) (Roz) if they need it or not?
(10:59:09) (patricia) now that is gross too
(10:59:34) (Qrious) had to go to military school with them.. back in 86..
(10:59:49) (Cris) I used to live overseas I saw and experienced a lot
(10:59:50) (lux) rose oil is very expensive isnt it?
(10:59:53) (Qrious) talk about rank.. whew.
(10:59:57) (WalksInSpirit) I shower every day. Sometimes twice a day.
(10:59:59) (Nick) That's why they are mad at the israelis, the israelis bathe every day!
(11:00:07) (Roz) very lux
(11:00:28) (merri) maybe it's a water issue
(11:00:39) (Qrious) not true Nick.. worked with and Israeli.. and hes not so better.. and that is just last year.
(11:00:45) (Roz) or soap?
(11:00:59) (lux) does the vortex energy enhance it so you use less?
(11:01:16) (merri) we take too much for granted in this country
(11:01:19) (Nick) Yes, water is a serious problem in the middle east, just like in australia.
(11:01:22) (lilith) jeez! I wouldn't know!
(11:01:30) (patricia) maybe the Israelies are using alla the water and not leaving enough for the Jordanians to practice good hygene
(11:02:03) (Cris) A lot of middle easterners go to public baths
(11:02:16) (Cris) or used to
(11:02:24) (Qrious) they might be like the french patricia.. some don't bathe.. like that actor in 9 and a half weeks.. he was rank.. the actress was grossed out..
(11:02:30) (lilith) well, if they had access to water before that lousy wall came in, they should be allowed it now
(11:03:24) (Qrious) they think its an athrodisiac.. to me.. the only thing they will attrack is flies..
(11:03:34) (lilith) public baths probably blow to the next planet by now
(11:03:55) (Cheryl) lol, lillith
(11:04:29) (lilith) for anyone - either/both sides
(11:05:05) (Cris) Not every French or European reeks. It depends on their personal hygine many use bidets and do sink baths because of the high cost of water and heating it
(11:05:30) (patricia) what is a bidet?
(11:05:52) (lilith) got that right Cris - I remember Morocco - think it was the heavy, heady spices they used in everything that gave a musty odor - know darned well they bathed
(11:06:24) (Cheryl) Or If you're in India, Just go for a seim in Mother Ganges.
(11:06:27) (Cris) It is a personal cleansing system like a commode that you sit in to clean your private parts
(11:06:28) (lilith) the upper strata, certainly
(11:06:56) (patricia) oh, okay , thank you Cris
(11:06:56) (lilith) pat - remember Crocodile Dundee when he first met a bidet??
(11:06:58) (Qrious) the kyron is after me.. lol
(11:07:02) (lilith) grab an elbow Q
(11:07:07) (Nick) Gives your immune system a workout, Cheryl! :oP
(11:07:23) (patricia) no, lilith, don't remember that
(11:07:42) (lilith) first movie, darlin
(11:08:33) (patricia) don't watch movies, lil. i would rather curl up with a good book
(11:08:56) (Cris) There are times I think some Americans could benefit from the use of a bidet
(11:09:41) (Qrious) i think wider camodes Cris.. cause even in the ladies rooms they seem to miss. lol
(11:09:48) (lilith) oh yes - beginning with that woeful women on the elevator at the hospital!
(11:09:53) (patricia) yes, Cris, i walked past a very large man in Wal-Mart about a month ago and almost threw up.
(11:10:39) (Qrious) crack kills patricia.
(11:11:05) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(11:11:30) (patricia) i have never smelled such a foul odor. it was rude of me, but i couldn't help it. i immediately began to gag
(11:11:38) (Cheryl) Just snake yer common garden hose thru yre bathroom winder & let 'er rip!
(11:11:52) (Cris) Illness can do that too Patricia
(11:11:54) (patricia) lol Cheryl
(11:11:55) (Qrious) lol Cheryl
(11:12:20) (Cris) some medicines leach out of the body and some cancers hae a definite smell
(11:12:37) (Qrious) shoulds light a match patricia..
(11:12:57) (Cris) This isn't a mule were talking about Qrious
(11:13:27) (Cheryl) It's good for removing stubborn stains & hard to reach places, as in yer orifice. lol.
(11:13:39) (Qrious) sounds like a wide body two decker 747 with a fuel leak Cris
(11:14:20) (Nick) someone with a very bad case of toxemia, patricia, kidneys overloaded and failing and tremendous buildup in the colon. Have witnesed some people like that.
(11:15:11) (Qrious) what do you suggest Nick.. castor oil huh.. lol
(11:15:29) (patricia) well, maybe you are right. he couldn't help it. i am sorry that i responded in that way, but it was just a reflexive reaction on my part.
(11:15:34) (lux) I had a friend who had that Nick
(11:15:57) (lux) she needed a kidney transplant
(11:16:31) (Qrious) you could have been on that m.t.v. show and would have won a hundred bucks patricia.. ya never know.. or even scare tactics.. lol
(11:16:46) (Nick) Both internal and external, in that case. And drink lots of distilled water.
(11:18:45) (Qrious) wow.. we went from protiens. to plants, to deorderizing to passing gas... this class is great.
(11:19:35) (Qrious) I feel more closer to ya'll.. you know what I mean.. lol
(11:19:41) (Qrious) like a family.
(11:19:43) (patricia) lol
(11:20:48) (Nick) Eliminations always come last, Q :o)
(11:21:58) (WalksInSpirit) Hey Qrious.... I told you that you're my Brotha From Anotha Motha! :-)
(11:22:18) (Qrious) don't tell me.. let me guess.. Nick.. one of those dietary advice used by examining a feces based on color and texture .. like the Chinese used to do for the Emperor.. lol
(11:22:25) (Nick) Blessings and Peace to all, thank you for being here
(11:22:39) (Qrious) yeah Bruddah.. ya did.. lol
(11:22:47) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you for the great info tonight, Nick!