Post by WalksInSpirit on Jan 22, 2007 22:37:16 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 01-22-07
(09:33:29) (Bill) : “Not my will but Thine, O Lord, be done in me and through me. Let me ever be a channel of blessings, today, now, to those that I contact in every way. Let my going in, my coming out be in accord with that Thou would have me do, and as the call comes, ‘Here am I, send me, use me!’ “. ( 262-3) Amen
(09:33:39) (Lory) Amen
(09:33:41) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:33:41) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:46) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:33:49) (merri) Amen
(09:33:53) (Roz) Amen
(09:35:25) (Bill) Well we left off last wk. after Sarah 90 and Abraham and 100 had a son!
(09:35:32) (Bill) The grace of God is evident again in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, which were built by the sons of men. Many of Abraham’s people turned to these cities, and when their infamy came to Abraham’s attention he felt he must know whether it were true ~~ ‘but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.’ (Genesis 18:22)
(09:36:06) (Bill) We suggest that the story of Sarah and Abraham be read to give a better understanding of this period of our evolution ~~ Genesis, Chapter 16 through 19.
(09:36:43) (Bill) This story also reveals the level to which many of the Sons of God again had fallen.
(09:37:05) (Bill) Isaac grew up, and to him and his wife Rebecca twin sons were born ~~ Jacob and Esau ~~ and the Lord said to Rebecca: ‘Two nations are in thy womb, and two manners of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.’ (Genesis 25:23)
(09:37:37) (Lory) Bill will skip the begats, Rosie.
(09:37:48) (Rosie) he da man!
(09:37:52) (Bill) The sons, Jacob and Esau, are symbolic of the two streams of development among the children of earth. Esau was of the earthy consciousness, shown in his selling his birthright to his brother in return for material to gratify his appetite. It followed that Jacob, although the younger, was chosen to receive his father’s blessing to carry on the pure line.
(09:38:43) (Roz) all through Genesis there are two accounts
(09:38:46) (Bill) In these two sons we see the personification of spirituality and worldliness. Though they had the same parents, the same environment, were born at the same time, yet their dispositions gave evidence of different soul development.
(09:39:37) (Bill) Jacob went to another country and set up the altar Elelohe-Israel, which meant strength of the God of Israel. He wanted to free himself of all that would keep him from God, even to the point of freeing his house of the foreign gods that his favorite wife, Rachel, had hidden.
(09:40:33) (Bill) Jacob and Leah, his first wife, had six sons ~~ Rueben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, and Zebulum.
(09:40:51) (Bill) Rachel, the wife he loved, was the mother of Joseph [Joseph was an incarnation of the Master, after Melchisedec] and Benjamin.
(09:41:11) (Bill) Leah’ handmaiden, Zilpah, was the mother of Gad and Asher.
(09:41:17) (Bill) Rachel’s handmaiden, Bilhah, was the mother of Dan and Naphtali.
(09:41:52) (Bill) These twelve sons of Jacob, who received his blessing, became the fathers, respectively of the twelve tribes of Israel. Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph’s two sons, also shared in their grandfather Jacob’s blessing. Jacob’s prophecies for the tribes are given in Genesis 48-49: 1-28: ‘And it came to pass after these things, that one told Joseph, Behold, thy father is sick:
(09:43:17) (Bill) and he took with him two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. And one told Jacob, and said, Behold, they son Joseph cometh unto thee: and Israel strengthened himself and sat upon the bed. And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me.
(09:43:51) (Bill) And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.
(09:44:18) (Bill) ‘And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Masasseh which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt, before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mind.
(09:44:53) (Bill) ‘And as for me, when I came from Padan, Rachel died by me in the land of Canaan in the way, when yet there was but a little way to come unto Ephrath: and I buried her here in the way of Ephrath; the same in Bethlehem. And Israel beheld Joseph’s sons, and said, who are these? And Joseph said unto his father.
(09:45:46) (Bill) . They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them. Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he could not see. And he brought them near unto him; and he kissed them and embraced them.
(09:46:31) (Bill) ‘And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face; and lo, God hath showed me also thy seed. And Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth.
(09:47:03) (Bill) ‘And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near unto him.
(09:47:22) (Bill) And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the first-born.
(09:47:54) (Bill) ‘And he blessed Joseph and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day. The angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
(09:48:31) (Bill) ‘And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him; and he held up his father’s hand to remove it from Ephraim’s head.
(09:48:54) (Bill) ‘And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father; for this is the first-born; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
(09:49:29) (Bill) ‘And he blessed them that day saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
(09:49:58) (Bill) ‘And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers.
(09:50:13) (Bill) ‘Moreover, I have given thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow.
(09:50:34) (Bill) ‘Chapter 49:1-28 ~~ And Jacob called unto his sons and said, Gather yourselves together and hear, ye sons of Jacob, and harken unto Israel your father.
(09:50:51) (Bill) ‘Reuben, thou art my first-born, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power.
(09:51:07) (Bill) ‘Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father’s bed then defildest thou it; he went up to my couch.
(09:51:36) (Bill) ‘Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.
(09:51:51) (Bill) ‘O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honor, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their self-will they digged down a wall.
(09:52:24) (Bill) ‘Cursed be their anger for it was fierce: and their wrath for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.
(09:52:38) (Bill) ‘Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.
(09:52:56) (Bill) ‘Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
(09:53:29) (Bill) ‘The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
(09:53:41) (Bill) ‘Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes.
(09:54:09) (Bill) ‘His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.‘Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for a haven of ships, and his border shall be unto Zidon.
(09:55:42) (Bill) ‘Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
(09:56:05) (Bill) ‘I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.‘God, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.
(09:56:27) (Bill) ‘Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.‘Naphtali is a hind let loose: he giveth goodly words. Joseph is a is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
(09:57:17) (Bill) The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him. But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel):
(09:57:36) (Bill) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee: by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb.
(09:57:57) (Bill) ‘The blessings thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: thy shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
(09:58:21) (Bill) ‘Benjamin shall ravin like a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.
(09:58:38) (Bill) ‘All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them: every one according to his blessing he blessed them.’
(09:58:54) (Bill) The End!
(09:59:08) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(09:59:26) (Bill) After Roz's lesson on Genisis this must be old hat for you all
(09:59:57) (mark) new to me
(10:00:07) (mark) and thanks
(10:00:32) (Cris) I still enjoyed it because it was another view
(10:00:50) (merri) yes if was all familiar thanks to Roz!
(10:00:59) (Bill) i have trouble keeping the names straight
(10:01:03) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Bill! I really enjoyed it!
(10:01:32) (Roz) tks Merri
(10:02:43) (Leon) Gee, I wonder what the boys are up to these days?
(10:02:48) (Bill) okay chat it up about anything you like or what comes to mind
(10:03:10) (merri) which ones Leon
(10:03:11) (Lory) This particular version also describes the parts of the earth that each son represented as well. I find it interesting that Simeon and Levi were sent to China and Japan, Brethren; instruments of cruelty.
(10:03:51) (Roz) each of the 12 tribes have attributes like the Zodiac
(10:03:55) (Bill) I think i'll email everyone those pages Lory cause its a night mare to try and copy and paste them
(10:04:24) (mark) where was Dan sent to?
(10:04:32) (Lory) I could type them here for you, Bill. If you like.
(10:04:37) (Bill) also a glimse of them on the screen becomes confuseing rather than benifial
(10:04:55) (Roz) scan 'em Bill
(10:04:58) (Bill) i have them Lory TY thanks to my stenographer :o)
(10:21:51) (Roz) Been great to chat.. Thanks Bill Love and Light all
(10:32:31) (merri) dreamtime for me....TY for chat Bill... Blessings All
(09:33:39) (Lory) Amen
(09:33:41) (Rosie) Awomen
(09:33:41) (Cris) Amen
(09:33:46) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:33:49) (merri) Amen
(09:33:53) (Roz) Amen
(09:35:25) (Bill) Well we left off last wk. after Sarah 90 and Abraham and 100 had a son!
(09:35:32) (Bill) The grace of God is evident again in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, which were built by the sons of men. Many of Abraham’s people turned to these cities, and when their infamy came to Abraham’s attention he felt he must know whether it were true ~~ ‘but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.’ (Genesis 18:22)
(09:36:06) (Bill) We suggest that the story of Sarah and Abraham be read to give a better understanding of this period of our evolution ~~ Genesis, Chapter 16 through 19.
(09:36:43) (Bill) This story also reveals the level to which many of the Sons of God again had fallen.
(09:37:05) (Bill) Isaac grew up, and to him and his wife Rebecca twin sons were born ~~ Jacob and Esau ~~ and the Lord said to Rebecca: ‘Two nations are in thy womb, and two manners of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.’ (Genesis 25:23)
(09:37:37) (Lory) Bill will skip the begats, Rosie.
(09:37:48) (Rosie) he da man!
(09:37:52) (Bill) The sons, Jacob and Esau, are symbolic of the two streams of development among the children of earth. Esau was of the earthy consciousness, shown in his selling his birthright to his brother in return for material to gratify his appetite. It followed that Jacob, although the younger, was chosen to receive his father’s blessing to carry on the pure line.
(09:38:43) (Roz) all through Genesis there are two accounts
(09:38:46) (Bill) In these two sons we see the personification of spirituality and worldliness. Though they had the same parents, the same environment, were born at the same time, yet their dispositions gave evidence of different soul development.
(09:39:37) (Bill) Jacob went to another country and set up the altar Elelohe-Israel, which meant strength of the God of Israel. He wanted to free himself of all that would keep him from God, even to the point of freeing his house of the foreign gods that his favorite wife, Rachel, had hidden.
(09:40:33) (Bill) Jacob and Leah, his first wife, had six sons ~~ Rueben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, and Zebulum.
(09:40:51) (Bill) Rachel, the wife he loved, was the mother of Joseph [Joseph was an incarnation of the Master, after Melchisedec] and Benjamin.
(09:41:11) (Bill) Leah’ handmaiden, Zilpah, was the mother of Gad and Asher.
(09:41:17) (Bill) Rachel’s handmaiden, Bilhah, was the mother of Dan and Naphtali.
(09:41:52) (Bill) These twelve sons of Jacob, who received his blessing, became the fathers, respectively of the twelve tribes of Israel. Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph’s two sons, also shared in their grandfather Jacob’s blessing. Jacob’s prophecies for the tribes are given in Genesis 48-49: 1-28: ‘And it came to pass after these things, that one told Joseph, Behold, thy father is sick:
(09:43:17) (Bill) and he took with him two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. And one told Jacob, and said, Behold, they son Joseph cometh unto thee: and Israel strengthened himself and sat upon the bed. And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me.
(09:43:51) (Bill) And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.
(09:44:18) (Bill) ‘And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Masasseh which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt, before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mind.
(09:44:53) (Bill) ‘And as for me, when I came from Padan, Rachel died by me in the land of Canaan in the way, when yet there was but a little way to come unto Ephrath: and I buried her here in the way of Ephrath; the same in Bethlehem. And Israel beheld Joseph’s sons, and said, who are these? And Joseph said unto his father.
(09:45:46) (Bill) . They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them. Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he could not see. And he brought them near unto him; and he kissed them and embraced them.
(09:46:31) (Bill) ‘And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face; and lo, God hath showed me also thy seed. And Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth.
(09:47:03) (Bill) ‘And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near unto him.
(09:47:22) (Bill) And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the first-born.
(09:47:54) (Bill) ‘And he blessed Joseph and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day. The angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
(09:48:31) (Bill) ‘And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him; and he held up his father’s hand to remove it from Ephraim’s head.
(09:48:54) (Bill) ‘And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father; for this is the first-born; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
(09:49:29) (Bill) ‘And he blessed them that day saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
(09:49:58) (Bill) ‘And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers.
(09:50:13) (Bill) ‘Moreover, I have given thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow.
(09:50:34) (Bill) ‘Chapter 49:1-28 ~~ And Jacob called unto his sons and said, Gather yourselves together and hear, ye sons of Jacob, and harken unto Israel your father.
(09:50:51) (Bill) ‘Reuben, thou art my first-born, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power.
(09:51:07) (Bill) ‘Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father’s bed then defildest thou it; he went up to my couch.
(09:51:36) (Bill) ‘Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.
(09:51:51) (Bill) ‘O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honor, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their self-will they digged down a wall.
(09:52:24) (Bill) ‘Cursed be their anger for it was fierce: and their wrath for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.
(09:52:38) (Bill) ‘Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.
(09:52:56) (Bill) ‘Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
(09:53:29) (Bill) ‘The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
(09:53:41) (Bill) ‘Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes.
(09:54:09) (Bill) ‘His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.‘Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for a haven of ships, and his border shall be unto Zidon.
(09:55:42) (Bill) ‘Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
(09:56:05) (Bill) ‘I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.‘God, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.
(09:56:27) (Bill) ‘Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.‘Naphtali is a hind let loose: he giveth goodly words. Joseph is a is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
(09:57:17) (Bill) The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him. But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel):
(09:57:36) (Bill) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee: by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb.
(09:57:57) (Bill) ‘The blessings thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: thy shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
(09:58:21) (Bill) ‘Benjamin shall ravin like a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.
(09:58:38) (Bill) ‘All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them: every one according to his blessing he blessed them.’
(09:58:54) (Bill) The End!
(09:59:08) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(09:59:26) (Bill) After Roz's lesson on Genisis this must be old hat for you all
(09:59:57) (mark) new to me
(10:00:07) (mark) and thanks
(10:00:32) (Cris) I still enjoyed it because it was another view
(10:00:50) (merri) yes if was all familiar thanks to Roz!
(10:00:59) (Bill) i have trouble keeping the names straight
(10:01:03) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Bill! I really enjoyed it!
(10:01:32) (Roz) tks Merri
(10:02:43) (Leon) Gee, I wonder what the boys are up to these days?
(10:02:48) (Bill) okay chat it up about anything you like or what comes to mind
(10:03:10) (merri) which ones Leon
(10:03:11) (Lory) This particular version also describes the parts of the earth that each son represented as well. I find it interesting that Simeon and Levi were sent to China and Japan, Brethren; instruments of cruelty.
(10:03:51) (Roz) each of the 12 tribes have attributes like the Zodiac
(10:03:55) (Bill) I think i'll email everyone those pages Lory cause its a night mare to try and copy and paste them
(10:04:24) (mark) where was Dan sent to?
(10:04:32) (Lory) I could type them here for you, Bill. If you like.
(10:04:37) (Bill) also a glimse of them on the screen becomes confuseing rather than benifial
(10:04:55) (Roz) scan 'em Bill
(10:04:58) (Bill) i have them Lory TY thanks to my stenographer :o)
(10:21:51) (Roz) Been great to chat.. Thanks Bill Love and Light all
(10:32:31) (merri) dreamtime for me....TY for chat Bill... Blessings All
