Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 4, 2006 23:25:24 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 12-04-06
(09:30:08) (Bill) well the moon is coming over the mt. shining in my window so that must be the sign that its time to get on with this evenings material
(09:30:20) (Bill) : “Not my will but Thine, O Lord, be done in me and through me. Let me ever be a channel of blessings, today, now, to those that I contact in every way. Let my going in, my coming out be in accord with that Thou would have me do, and as the call comes, ‘Here am I, send me, use me!’ “. ( 262-3) Amen
(09:30:30) (Blu) Amen
(09:30:32) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:40) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:47) (Capricorn) amen
(09:30:50) (Lory) Amen
(09:30:51) (mark) Amen
(09:31:08) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:24) (Wanda) Amen
(09:31:39) (Wanda) God bless us every one
(09:32:13) (merri) Amen
(09:32:58) (Bill) Let us return now to Noah, who had begotten three sons. The first two were brought into being while Noah still held the Divine Image. Ham was the result of the earthly relationship.
(09:33:39) (Bill) Adam’s changed status, due to his choice of action, had established a new order on the earth. Though he had come to lead men from their ignorance he has chosen to use the channel common to earthlings, to bring in souls through the doorway of sex instead of by the immaculate means that had brought Lilith into manifestation as a sexless body for Eve.
(09:34:21) (Bill) As a consequence souls were now required to come into the earth under these changed conditions.
(09:34:51) (Bill) ‘Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.’ (Genesis 3:16)
(09:35:15) (merri) hmmmm
(09:35:23) (Bill) Thus the laws, the habit and manner of the present physical birth came into being, and all mankind became subject to them. But God extended the law of grace ~~ grace being something given that has not been earned ~~ and gave His children time and opportunity to return and claim their Divine Heritage.
(09:35:43) (Lory) That directive was only for Adam over Eve, I hope merri.
(09:36:24) (Bill) It is not possible at this stage of the author’s understanding to determine how long it was after the so-called ‘fall’ of Adam and Eve before the civilization of Atlantis became so corrupt that it destroyed itself, but it must have been many thousands of years.
(09:36:26) (merri) that would make me feel better Lory
(09:37:08) (Bill) The information from the Edgar Cayce records tells us it was the second inundation of the continent that is referred to in the Bible as The Flood.
(09:37:28) (Bill) “Q-2: What was the date of this first destruction [of Atlantis] estimating in our present day system of counting time in years B.C.““Q-
(09:37:47) (Bill) “A-2: Seven thousand five hundred [7500] years before the final destruction, which came as has been given.” (364-11)
(09:38:15) (Bill) The important contribution that Noah made was in following the Divine Law in all his activities, culminating in preparing the ark.
(09:38:38) (Bill) What is the ark? It is a very definite symbol, a material symbol of that which was to continue life upon the earth, and a spiritual symbol of the knowledge held within each soul of its true relationship to the Creative Forces.
(09:39:20) (Bill) “The deluge was not a myth (as many would have you believe) but a period when man had so belittled himself with the cares of the world, with the deceitfulness of his own knowledge and power, as to require that there be a return to the dependence wholly ~~ physically and mentally ~~ upon the Creative Forces.” (3653-1)
(09:39:29) (Wanda) A means of salvation?
(09:39:52) (One) Cleansing
(09:40:23) (Bill) yes One
(09:40:35) (Bill) Water is a carrier of spirit and symbolizes that creative force which sustains and supports the ark over the destructive forces (the misplaced and swollen waters) created by the misuse of Divine Law. We find the symbol of the ark used again as the ‘Ark of the Covenant’, constructed under Divine Law, (See Exodus 25: 10-22 and Exodus 37:1-5) Also in Revelation 11:19, Thus:
(09:41:20) (Bill) ‘And the temple of God was opened in heaven and there was seen in his temple the Ark of his testament.’
(09:41:41) (Bill) The ‘Ark’ is a spiritual inheritance within each one of us and will be with us until we replace it of our own will in the vaults of heaven.
(09:42:06) (Bill) Let us bear in mind that the Bible is a book of symbols and that all of the Biblical characters are symbols of the activity of the races of men as they move through the ever evolving experiences of the earth. Noah in his experience is an example of that which was experienced by those Sons of God who had kept the pure concepts and not polluted their bodies.
(09:42:46) (Bill) Genesis gives a history of a group of souls that were dedicated to keeping the Universal Consciousness in the earth.
(09:42:53) (One) Plus it was used to keep men in line.
(09:43:02) (Bill) Only those closed within the Ark, those having the Christ consciousness built within them, were able to survive when the flood came.
(09:43:09) (One) Hence the "mean" God.
(09:43:33) (Bill) The Flood recorded in Genesis took place around 30,000 years ago. The final destruction of the remainder of the continent occurred about 10,700 years ago.
(09:44:08) (Bill) “The entity was in Atlantis when there was the second period of disturbance ~~ which would be some twenty-two thousand, five hundred (22,500) [years] before the periods of the Egyptian activity covered by the Exodus; or it was some twenty-eight thousand (28,000) before Christ, see?” (470-22)
(09:44:54) (Bill) This ‘Ark’ in the physical body of man, had its beginning with Amilius and now with people like Noah it was a permanent part of the Body. The Edgar Cayce readings explain it as seated in the ductless glands, of which there are seven, through which the spiritual or soul forces make contact with the physical or material.
(09:45:28) (Bill) These glands, situated throughout the body, from the ‘Tree of Life’ in the ‘garden’. They serve as the transforming connections between the spiritual and the physical.
(09:45:51) (Bill) The gland known specifically as the Ark is the pituitary gland in the forehead; it represents the ‘Temple of the Living God’ in man, also referred to as the ‘all-seeing eye’ and the ‘Cup that runneth over’.
(09:46:19) (One) The Holiest of Holies.
(09:46:40) (Bill) “In the body, that which connects the pineal, pituitary, the lyden, may be truly called the silver cord, or the golden cup that may be filled with a closer walk with that which is the Creative Essence in physical, mental, and spiritual life . . . Were an anatomical or pathological study made for a period of seven years .
(09:47:20) (Bill) . . of one that is acted upon the Third Eye alone, we will find one fed upon spiritual things becomes a Light that may shine from and in the darkest corner. One fed upon the purely material will become a Frankenstein that is without concept of any influence other than material or mental.” (262-20)
(09:47:59) (Bill) “Whenever there is the opening of the Leydig center and the Kundalini forces from along the pineal, we find that there are visions of things to come, of things that are happening.” (4087-1)
(09:48:49) (Bill) These were imaged by Amilius in his advent into the earth as a way by which he could draw souls back through matter and away from destruction.
(09:49:16) (Bill) The following reading gives a glimpse into the fabulous plan drawn in the Atlantean age for man’s experience:
(09:49:34) (Bill) “Q-3: Please give a few details regarding the physiognomy, habits, customs and costumes of the people of Atlantis just before the first destruction.
(09:50:12) (Bill) “A-3: These, as we find, will require their being separated in the gradual development of the body and its physiognomy as it came into being in various portions of the land, as well as to those that would separate themselves from those peoples where there were the indwellings of peoples or man as man, in the various areas of land, or what we call world.
(09:51:06) (Bill) “In the matter of form, as we find, there were those projections from that about the animal kingdom, for the thought bodies gradually took form, and the various combinations (as may be called) of the various forces that called or classified themselves as goods, or rulers over whether hers, or fowls, or fishes, etc.
(09:51:46) (Bill) in part much in the form of the present day man (were one chosen of those that were, or are, the nearest representative of the race of people that existed in the first period as the first destruction came about). These took on many sizes as to stature, from that as may be called the midget to the giants ~~ for there were giants in the earth in those days, men as tall as (what would be termed today)
(09:52:37) (Bill) ten to twelve feet in stature, and in proportion ~~ well proportioned throughout. The ones that became the most useful were those that would be classified (or called in the present) as the ideal stature that was of both male and female (as those separations had been begun) and the most ideal (as would be called) was Adam, who was in the period when he (Adam) appeared as five in one ~~ see?
(09:53:27) (Roz) giants were brot about by Angels coming into women and producing them
(09:53:41) (One) Wrong Roz.
(09:53:54) (Bill) “In this the physiognomy was that of a full head, with an extra eye, as it were, in those portions that became what is known as the eye. In the beginning these appeared in whatever portion was desired by the body for its use.
(09:54:32) (One) Giants were those who came in of their own accord.
(09:54:48) (One) Without birth.
(09:54:51) (Roz) Secrets of the book of Enoch
(09:54:56) (Bill) “As for the dress, those in the beginning were (and the Lord made for them coats) of the skins of animals. These covered the parts of their person that had become, then, as those portions of their physiognomy that had brought much of the desires that made for destructive forces in the own experience, and these then were of those about them that were given as meat, or used as same that partook of the herbs.
(09:55:21) (One) Cayce Material.
(09:56:06) (Lory) This is the Cayce Material.
(09:56:17) (Bill) These were those same herbs that the seeds were to have been for food for the man in self, and only those that partook of same he called even clean ~~ in the present day. Those that supply those same materials that are the proper building for the forces within the anatomical forces, or physiological forces, of a developing body, for these carry all the elements in their natural state.
(09:56:18) (Lory) A direct quote.
(09:56:27) (One) Speaking in regards to Roz Lory.
(09:56:40) (One) Not in regards to what Bill is postring.
(09:57:39) (Bill) Little of minerals should ever the properties within the system, save as may be taken by the vegetable forces, save where individuals had so laxed themselves as to require or need that which will make for an even balance of same.” (364-11)
(09:58:29) (Bill) this material here finally explains for me why some of us eat meat
(09:58:40) (Bill) Here again we are reminded that the God-imaged body of man was to partake only of herbs and seeds (vegetation). Until we have finally built this concept into the body we cannot be strictly clean. And the lion cannot lie down with the lamb.
(09:59:08) (Bill) Could this possibly imply that disease is as the lion, and the harmless lamb the spiritual image Amilius held to bring about an immaculate body for Eve? And which she attained again as Mary?
(09:59:46) (Bill) well we'll have to find out next wk. this is enough for us to discuse for one evening :o)
(10:00:41) (mark) where was the part about eating meat?
(10:00:50) (Bill) yes Roz the book of Enoch did tell us of those Angels producing giants but i don't know how it fits into this Materila for Cacye at this point
(10:01:09) (mark) or was that not to eat meat
(10:01:28) (Roz) Enoch was an incarnation of Jesus
(10:01:45) (Blu) I am wondering if the altered food we eat today is good for us
(10:02:14) (Bill) well Mark it explains that some still need meat to sustain their stregth till weened off meat gradually and with the proper understanding
(10:02:19) (Cris) Probably not but in some cases it is all there is
(10:02:47) (Cris) Thanks for the Chat Bill
(10:02:55) (mark) oh, ok Bill thanks
(10:03:18) (Bill) its the symbology Roz that i think gets us confused making it difficult to put some of this material into perspective
(10:03:43) (Blu) I think we do get animal aggression from meat
(10:04:28) (Bill) well Blu blood types in todays medicine indicates to us what is best to sustain our bodys
(10:04:37) (Lynn) Most of the meat on the market , the animals have never eaten food. Chemicals and pain on your plate, darling!
(10:04:52) (Roz) we eat the heart of a Lion to get courage?
(10:05:12) (Lynn) What courage can a lion, overwhelmed with pain and chemicals have?
(10:05:30) (Lynn) If you have to eat meat, try organic.
(10:05:43) (Bill) i'm not that familiar with Indians in thw south but in the north here their motabolism like mine require meat at this time until we gradually chance the pattern
(10:05:53) (Lynn) Organic raised on humane farms
(10:06:06) (Blu) they have changed the requirements for what is labeled organic, you can not trust it
(10:06:18) (merri) right on Blu
(10:06:20) (Capricorn) without the fear of impending death?
(10:06:22) (Lynn) I know, but its the least of two evils
(10:06:48) (merri) it only has to be 30% organic to be labeled as such
(10:06:53) (Bill) you can trust it in Canada or if its from Canada because the rules are very strickly adered to
(10:07:01) (One) Not in the US merri
(10:07:08) (Blu) hmmmm. have to check that out bill, thanks
(10:07:09) (WalksInSpirit) I have an article by John VanAuken where he states that Thoth/Hermes, and Enoch were past incarnations of Jesus. I think I sent you a copy of that, didn't I, Mark?
(10:07:12) (Lynn) I'll stick to vegies. Plenty of protein and I get ribs, steaks, you name it
(10:07:19) (merri) yes in the US one
(10:07:28) (One) No
(10:07:33) (merri) yes
(10:07:36) (One) That is misinformation.
(10:07:41) (mark) yes Walks and i thank you
(10:08:00) (Blu) I have noticed the Canadian deserts are richer and use the real McCoy when it comes to infredients
(10:08:10) (merri) tell it to the TV documentary that discussed this topic
(10:08:26) (WalksInSpirit) You're welcome, Mark! I'll probably be posting that article at Red Path as well.
(10:08:35) (One) I sell organic produce....I know what's required.
(10:08:56) (mark) could we disagree in a nicer way
(10:08:59) (Lynn) Here in Arizona, Arizonans for Humane Farms, we got a bill passed , with hard work, just to give mother pigs and little calves raised for veal enough room to turn around.
(10:09:02) (One) By the USDA
(10:09:20) (merri) most of the products discussed were packaged
(10:09:21) (mark) ok Walks
(10:09:23) (Blu) I would not eat that anyway Lynn
(10:09:47) (Lynn) Thank God. The cells are cells of chemicals and incredible pain.
(10:10:03) (Blu) It costs more to eat organic but I figure God will supply if I spend more on it
(10:10:13) (Capricorn) fear in the blood
(10:10:19) (Lynn) yep
(10:10:31) (Bill) in the material this evening it was a first for me reading the some of the symbols concerning the ark
(10:10:37) (Blu) I like the organic brown eggs
(10:10:47) (Blu) me too bill
(10:10:49) (Lynn) Meat lays in your intestines for years. We do not have a digestive system for meat. Just the teeth for it.
(10:10:55) (Capricorn) that was very interesting bill
(10:11:01) (Bill) Blu don't you like the white ones :o)
(10:11:12) (Roz) yes it is Bill
(10:11:15) (Blu) colon cleanse time Lynn!
(10:11:28) (Blu) brown ones are better Bill
(10:11:45) (Bill) brown chickens Blu :o)
(10:11:45) (Lynn) My system is clean. But if you saw the putrid and the puss in most bowel you would gag
(10:11:55) (Blu) I am sure Lynn!
(10:12:01) (Lynn) meat lays there for years
(10:12:14) (Blu) EGGS BILLYKINS!
(10:12:36) (Blu) ;-p
(09:30:20) (Bill) : “Not my will but Thine, O Lord, be done in me and through me. Let me ever be a channel of blessings, today, now, to those that I contact in every way. Let my going in, my coming out be in accord with that Thou would have me do, and as the call comes, ‘Here am I, send me, use me!’ “. ( 262-3) Amen
(09:30:30) (Blu) Amen
(09:30:32) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:40) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:47) (Capricorn) amen
(09:30:50) (Lory) Amen
(09:30:51) (mark) Amen
(09:31:08) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:24) (Wanda) Amen
(09:31:39) (Wanda) God bless us every one
(09:32:13) (merri) Amen
(09:32:58) (Bill) Let us return now to Noah, who had begotten three sons. The first two were brought into being while Noah still held the Divine Image. Ham was the result of the earthly relationship.
(09:33:39) (Bill) Adam’s changed status, due to his choice of action, had established a new order on the earth. Though he had come to lead men from their ignorance he has chosen to use the channel common to earthlings, to bring in souls through the doorway of sex instead of by the immaculate means that had brought Lilith into manifestation as a sexless body for Eve.
(09:34:21) (Bill) As a consequence souls were now required to come into the earth under these changed conditions.
(09:34:51) (Bill) ‘Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.’ (Genesis 3:16)
(09:35:15) (merri) hmmmm
(09:35:23) (Bill) Thus the laws, the habit and manner of the present physical birth came into being, and all mankind became subject to them. But God extended the law of grace ~~ grace being something given that has not been earned ~~ and gave His children time and opportunity to return and claim their Divine Heritage.
(09:35:43) (Lory) That directive was only for Adam over Eve, I hope merri.
(09:36:24) (Bill) It is not possible at this stage of the author’s understanding to determine how long it was after the so-called ‘fall’ of Adam and Eve before the civilization of Atlantis became so corrupt that it destroyed itself, but it must have been many thousands of years.
(09:36:26) (merri) that would make me feel better Lory
(09:37:08) (Bill) The information from the Edgar Cayce records tells us it was the second inundation of the continent that is referred to in the Bible as The Flood.
(09:37:28) (Bill) “Q-2: What was the date of this first destruction [of Atlantis] estimating in our present day system of counting time in years B.C.““Q-
(09:37:47) (Bill) “A-2: Seven thousand five hundred [7500] years before the final destruction, which came as has been given.” (364-11)
(09:38:15) (Bill) The important contribution that Noah made was in following the Divine Law in all his activities, culminating in preparing the ark.
(09:38:38) (Bill) What is the ark? It is a very definite symbol, a material symbol of that which was to continue life upon the earth, and a spiritual symbol of the knowledge held within each soul of its true relationship to the Creative Forces.
(09:39:20) (Bill) “The deluge was not a myth (as many would have you believe) but a period when man had so belittled himself with the cares of the world, with the deceitfulness of his own knowledge and power, as to require that there be a return to the dependence wholly ~~ physically and mentally ~~ upon the Creative Forces.” (3653-1)
(09:39:29) (Wanda) A means of salvation?
(09:39:52) (One) Cleansing
(09:40:23) (Bill) yes One
(09:40:35) (Bill) Water is a carrier of spirit and symbolizes that creative force which sustains and supports the ark over the destructive forces (the misplaced and swollen waters) created by the misuse of Divine Law. We find the symbol of the ark used again as the ‘Ark of the Covenant’, constructed under Divine Law, (See Exodus 25: 10-22 and Exodus 37:1-5) Also in Revelation 11:19, Thus:
(09:41:20) (Bill) ‘And the temple of God was opened in heaven and there was seen in his temple the Ark of his testament.’
(09:41:41) (Bill) The ‘Ark’ is a spiritual inheritance within each one of us and will be with us until we replace it of our own will in the vaults of heaven.
(09:42:06) (Bill) Let us bear in mind that the Bible is a book of symbols and that all of the Biblical characters are symbols of the activity of the races of men as they move through the ever evolving experiences of the earth. Noah in his experience is an example of that which was experienced by those Sons of God who had kept the pure concepts and not polluted their bodies.
(09:42:46) (Bill) Genesis gives a history of a group of souls that were dedicated to keeping the Universal Consciousness in the earth.
(09:42:53) (One) Plus it was used to keep men in line.
(09:43:02) (Bill) Only those closed within the Ark, those having the Christ consciousness built within them, were able to survive when the flood came.
(09:43:09) (One) Hence the "mean" God.
(09:43:33) (Bill) The Flood recorded in Genesis took place around 30,000 years ago. The final destruction of the remainder of the continent occurred about 10,700 years ago.
(09:44:08) (Bill) “The entity was in Atlantis when there was the second period of disturbance ~~ which would be some twenty-two thousand, five hundred (22,500) [years] before the periods of the Egyptian activity covered by the Exodus; or it was some twenty-eight thousand (28,000) before Christ, see?” (470-22)
(09:44:54) (Bill) This ‘Ark’ in the physical body of man, had its beginning with Amilius and now with people like Noah it was a permanent part of the Body. The Edgar Cayce readings explain it as seated in the ductless glands, of which there are seven, through which the spiritual or soul forces make contact with the physical or material.
(09:45:28) (Bill) These glands, situated throughout the body, from the ‘Tree of Life’ in the ‘garden’. They serve as the transforming connections between the spiritual and the physical.
(09:45:51) (Bill) The gland known specifically as the Ark is the pituitary gland in the forehead; it represents the ‘Temple of the Living God’ in man, also referred to as the ‘all-seeing eye’ and the ‘Cup that runneth over’.
(09:46:19) (One) The Holiest of Holies.
(09:46:40) (Bill) “In the body, that which connects the pineal, pituitary, the lyden, may be truly called the silver cord, or the golden cup that may be filled with a closer walk with that which is the Creative Essence in physical, mental, and spiritual life . . . Were an anatomical or pathological study made for a period of seven years .
(09:47:20) (Bill) . . of one that is acted upon the Third Eye alone, we will find one fed upon spiritual things becomes a Light that may shine from and in the darkest corner. One fed upon the purely material will become a Frankenstein that is without concept of any influence other than material or mental.” (262-20)
(09:47:59) (Bill) “Whenever there is the opening of the Leydig center and the Kundalini forces from along the pineal, we find that there are visions of things to come, of things that are happening.” (4087-1)
(09:48:49) (Bill) These were imaged by Amilius in his advent into the earth as a way by which he could draw souls back through matter and away from destruction.
(09:49:16) (Bill) The following reading gives a glimpse into the fabulous plan drawn in the Atlantean age for man’s experience:
(09:49:34) (Bill) “Q-3: Please give a few details regarding the physiognomy, habits, customs and costumes of the people of Atlantis just before the first destruction.
(09:50:12) (Bill) “A-3: These, as we find, will require their being separated in the gradual development of the body and its physiognomy as it came into being in various portions of the land, as well as to those that would separate themselves from those peoples where there were the indwellings of peoples or man as man, in the various areas of land, or what we call world.
(09:51:06) (Bill) “In the matter of form, as we find, there were those projections from that about the animal kingdom, for the thought bodies gradually took form, and the various combinations (as may be called) of the various forces that called or classified themselves as goods, or rulers over whether hers, or fowls, or fishes, etc.
(09:51:46) (Bill) in part much in the form of the present day man (were one chosen of those that were, or are, the nearest representative of the race of people that existed in the first period as the first destruction came about). These took on many sizes as to stature, from that as may be called the midget to the giants ~~ for there were giants in the earth in those days, men as tall as (what would be termed today)
(09:52:37) (Bill) ten to twelve feet in stature, and in proportion ~~ well proportioned throughout. The ones that became the most useful were those that would be classified (or called in the present) as the ideal stature that was of both male and female (as those separations had been begun) and the most ideal (as would be called) was Adam, who was in the period when he (Adam) appeared as five in one ~~ see?
(09:53:27) (Roz) giants were brot about by Angels coming into women and producing them
(09:53:41) (One) Wrong Roz.
(09:53:54) (Bill) “In this the physiognomy was that of a full head, with an extra eye, as it were, in those portions that became what is known as the eye. In the beginning these appeared in whatever portion was desired by the body for its use.
(09:54:32) (One) Giants were those who came in of their own accord.
(09:54:48) (One) Without birth.
(09:54:51) (Roz) Secrets of the book of Enoch
(09:54:56) (Bill) “As for the dress, those in the beginning were (and the Lord made for them coats) of the skins of animals. These covered the parts of their person that had become, then, as those portions of their physiognomy that had brought much of the desires that made for destructive forces in the own experience, and these then were of those about them that were given as meat, or used as same that partook of the herbs.
(09:55:21) (One) Cayce Material.
(09:56:06) (Lory) This is the Cayce Material.
(09:56:17) (Bill) These were those same herbs that the seeds were to have been for food for the man in self, and only those that partook of same he called even clean ~~ in the present day. Those that supply those same materials that are the proper building for the forces within the anatomical forces, or physiological forces, of a developing body, for these carry all the elements in their natural state.
(09:56:18) (Lory) A direct quote.
(09:56:27) (One) Speaking in regards to Roz Lory.
(09:56:40) (One) Not in regards to what Bill is postring.
(09:57:39) (Bill) Little of minerals should ever the properties within the system, save as may be taken by the vegetable forces, save where individuals had so laxed themselves as to require or need that which will make for an even balance of same.” (364-11)
(09:58:29) (Bill) this material here finally explains for me why some of us eat meat
(09:58:40) (Bill) Here again we are reminded that the God-imaged body of man was to partake only of herbs and seeds (vegetation). Until we have finally built this concept into the body we cannot be strictly clean. And the lion cannot lie down with the lamb.
(09:59:08) (Bill) Could this possibly imply that disease is as the lion, and the harmless lamb the spiritual image Amilius held to bring about an immaculate body for Eve? And which she attained again as Mary?
(09:59:46) (Bill) well we'll have to find out next wk. this is enough for us to discuse for one evening :o)
(10:00:41) (mark) where was the part about eating meat?
(10:00:50) (Bill) yes Roz the book of Enoch did tell us of those Angels producing giants but i don't know how it fits into this Materila for Cacye at this point
(10:01:09) (mark) or was that not to eat meat
(10:01:28) (Roz) Enoch was an incarnation of Jesus
(10:01:45) (Blu) I am wondering if the altered food we eat today is good for us
(10:02:14) (Bill) well Mark it explains that some still need meat to sustain their stregth till weened off meat gradually and with the proper understanding
(10:02:19) (Cris) Probably not but in some cases it is all there is
(10:02:47) (Cris) Thanks for the Chat Bill
(10:02:55) (mark) oh, ok Bill thanks
(10:03:18) (Bill) its the symbology Roz that i think gets us confused making it difficult to put some of this material into perspective
(10:03:43) (Blu) I think we do get animal aggression from meat
(10:04:28) (Bill) well Blu blood types in todays medicine indicates to us what is best to sustain our bodys
(10:04:37) (Lynn) Most of the meat on the market , the animals have never eaten food. Chemicals and pain on your plate, darling!
(10:04:52) (Roz) we eat the heart of a Lion to get courage?
(10:05:12) (Lynn) What courage can a lion, overwhelmed with pain and chemicals have?
(10:05:30) (Lynn) If you have to eat meat, try organic.
(10:05:43) (Bill) i'm not that familiar with Indians in thw south but in the north here their motabolism like mine require meat at this time until we gradually chance the pattern
(10:05:53) (Lynn) Organic raised on humane farms
(10:06:06) (Blu) they have changed the requirements for what is labeled organic, you can not trust it
(10:06:18) (merri) right on Blu
(10:06:20) (Capricorn) without the fear of impending death?
(10:06:22) (Lynn) I know, but its the least of two evils
(10:06:48) (merri) it only has to be 30% organic to be labeled as such
(10:06:53) (Bill) you can trust it in Canada or if its from Canada because the rules are very strickly adered to
(10:07:01) (One) Not in the US merri
(10:07:08) (Blu) hmmmm. have to check that out bill, thanks
(10:07:09) (WalksInSpirit) I have an article by John VanAuken where he states that Thoth/Hermes, and Enoch were past incarnations of Jesus. I think I sent you a copy of that, didn't I, Mark?
(10:07:12) (Lynn) I'll stick to vegies. Plenty of protein and I get ribs, steaks, you name it
(10:07:19) (merri) yes in the US one
(10:07:28) (One) No
(10:07:33) (merri) yes
(10:07:36) (One) That is misinformation.
(10:07:41) (mark) yes Walks and i thank you
(10:08:00) (Blu) I have noticed the Canadian deserts are richer and use the real McCoy when it comes to infredients
(10:08:10) (merri) tell it to the TV documentary that discussed this topic
(10:08:26) (WalksInSpirit) You're welcome, Mark! I'll probably be posting that article at Red Path as well.
(10:08:35) (One) I sell organic produce....I know what's required.
(10:08:56) (mark) could we disagree in a nicer way
(10:08:59) (Lynn) Here in Arizona, Arizonans for Humane Farms, we got a bill passed , with hard work, just to give mother pigs and little calves raised for veal enough room to turn around.
(10:09:02) (One) By the USDA
(10:09:20) (merri) most of the products discussed were packaged
(10:09:21) (mark) ok Walks
(10:09:23) (Blu) I would not eat that anyway Lynn
(10:09:47) (Lynn) Thank God. The cells are cells of chemicals and incredible pain.
(10:10:03) (Blu) It costs more to eat organic but I figure God will supply if I spend more on it
(10:10:13) (Capricorn) fear in the blood
(10:10:19) (Lynn) yep
(10:10:31) (Bill) in the material this evening it was a first for me reading the some of the symbols concerning the ark
(10:10:37) (Blu) I like the organic brown eggs
(10:10:47) (Blu) me too bill
(10:10:49) (Lynn) Meat lays in your intestines for years. We do not have a digestive system for meat. Just the teeth for it.
(10:10:55) (Capricorn) that was very interesting bill
(10:11:01) (Bill) Blu don't you like the white ones :o)
(10:11:12) (Roz) yes it is Bill
(10:11:15) (Blu) colon cleanse time Lynn!
(10:11:28) (Blu) brown ones are better Bill
(10:11:45) (Bill) brown chickens Blu :o)
(10:11:45) (Lynn) My system is clean. But if you saw the putrid and the puss in most bowel you would gag
(10:11:55) (Blu) I am sure Lynn!
(10:12:01) (Lynn) meat lays there for years
(10:12:14) (Blu) EGGS BILLYKINS!
(10:12:36) (Blu) ;-p