Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 14, 2006 21:32:24 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 08-14-06
(09:30:51) (Bill) okay guess we can get on with it!
(09:31:36) (Bill) Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
(09:32:04) (merri) Amen
(09:32:07) (Roz) Amen
(09:32:08) (Lory) Amen
(09:32:08) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:32:09) (Lynn) Come
(09:32:10) (ron) amen
(09:32:13) (Cheryl) .Amen
(09:32:28) (Wanda) Amen
(09:32:32) (Cris) Amen
(09:32:41) (Bill) Because the story of Creation is so complex and so difficult to present, and because certain thought-provoking concepts intertwine, we shall introduce some of them here and avoid interruptions that would complicate and entangle the thread of the story.
(09:32:44) (mark) Amen
(09:33:09) (Bill) AKASHIC RECORDS
(09:33:17) (Bill) The Akashic Records are those built by each soul, each planet, each star or universe, in its relationship to that through which it moves toward its ultimate goal. In man, they constitute the soul memory, the pictures or patterns of every word, thought, or deed.
(09:34:03) (Bill) Many persons throughout the history of man have possessed active psychic ability. The word ‘psychic’ is from the Greek psyche, the soul. A psychic is one who is able to use the soul forces to a greater degree than the average person.
(09:34:39) (Bill) Examples are Socrates, Plato, Noah, Joshua, Edgar Cayce ~~ and the greatest of all, Jesus.
(09:34:58) (Bill) All of these and many more we could cite were able to view, and read, and understand the Akashic Records. No matter how remote this may seem to us in the present, we too have this ability, if it were developed and used, and it could become again a faculty of our daily experience.
(09:35:36) (Bill) “In giving the interpretations of these records, these are upon the skeins of time and space. Oh that all would realize, come to the consciousness that what we are . . . is the combine result of what we have done about the ideals we have set.” (1549-1)
(09:36:14) (Bill) It becomes quite alarming when we realize that not a word we have spoken, no thought we have harbored, nor one act committed that is not fully recorded in this Soul Book of Life.
(09:36:40) (Bill) Q-8: What is meant by the Book of Life?
(09:36:51) (Bill) A-8: “The record that the individual entity itself writes upon the skein of time and space, through patience, and is opened when self has attuned to the infinite, and may be read by those attuning to that consciousness.” (2533-8)
(09:37:28) (Bill) Q-11: What is meant by the Akashic Records?
(09:37:35) (Bill) A-11: “Those made by the individual.” (2533-8)
(09:37:28) (Bill) Q-11: What is meant by the Akashic Records?
(09:37:35) (Bill) A-11: “Those made by the individual.” (2533-8)
(09:37:55) (Bill) “For the light moves on in time, in space; and upon that skein between them are the records written by each soul in its activity through eternity ~~ through its awareness . . . not only in matter but in thought, in whatever realm that entity builds for itself in its experience, in its journey, in its activity.” (815-2)
(09:38:29) (Bill) The physicist builds in the field of mathematics, the artist in the field of demonstration and color, the musician in sound, and so on. All are a part of the soul’s ability, according to that field in which it has developed.
(09:39:48) (Bill) “. . . Activity of any nature, as of the voice, as of a light made, produces in the natural forces those of a motion, which pass on, or are upon the record of that as time. As may be illustrated in the atomic vibrations as set in motion for those in that called the audition, or the radio in its activity. . . Hence, light forces pass much faster;
(09:40:35) (Bill) ; but the records are upon the esoteric, or etheric, or the akashic forces, as they go along upon the wheels of time, the wings of time, or in whatever dimension we may signify as a matter of its momentum or movement.
(09:41:12) (Bill) Hence, as the forces that are attuned to those various incidents, periods, times, places, may be accorded to the record, the contact, as of the needle upon the record, as to how clear a rendition or audition is received, or how clear or how perfect the attunement of the instrument used, as the reproducer of same is attuned to those keepers ~~ as may be termed ~~ of these records.
(09:42:03) (Bill) What would be indicated by the keepers? That as just given that they are the records upon the wings or the wheel of time itself. Time, as that of space ~~ at inter-between.
(09:42:31) (Bill) That inter-between, that which is, that of which, that from one object to another when in matter is of the same nature, or what that is, is what the other is, only changed in its vibration to produce that element, or that force, as is termed in man’s terminology as dimensions of space, or dimensions that give it, whatever may be the solid, liquid, gas, or what its form or dimension.” (364-6)
(09:44:34) (Bill) well not to sure if i grasp that but thats what Cayce says about the Akashic records now if you bare with me i'll line up a little more material for this evening
(09:45:29) (Lory) One comment about the Akashic records. If there are keepers there must be an angel for each soul to make the recordings of everything we say, do and think. Oh may what a thought.
(09:46:55) (mark) our own higher selfs does the recording?
(09:47:47) (Bill) Part 2
(09:48:23) (merri) isn't that 3 dimensional thinking Lory....wouldn't our thought, saying, etc with it's separate vibrations leave their impressions on time & space
(09:48:24) (Bill) SPIRITUAL CREATIONS and PHYSICAL CREATIONS in (Before the Beginning): The information from the readings and the Bible tells us that each creation takes place in spirit before it is manifested in materiality. In His mind, God imaged the pattern for each creation; and because God is spirit, this creation in all God’s imaging was spiritual in nature.
(09:48:40) (Bill) yes Merri
(09:48:59) (Lory) Sounds right merri, however was Cayce's comment about keepers?
(09:49:34) (Bill) Each image, or pattern, is the law which draws and controls the material, as it flows in, to bring the completed creation, or filling in, of the image in materiality. This activity as it progresses we call evolution.
(09:49:48) (WalksInSpirit) The Archangel Metatron is supposed to be in charge of the Records, according to research Blu and I have done.
(09:50:29) (ron) how about winged Mercury :)
(09:50:45) (ron) the planetary ruler of the Christ center, the pineal
(09:50:54) (mark) and Thoth
(09:50:59) (Bill) Evolution:
(09:51:02) (Bill) : The evolutionary process was a part of every pattern that God set for the development of both spiritual and material creations. All form moves in and out of matter following the images set in spirit by God; for their complete evolution.
(09:51:15) (Lynn) Bill, what you said sounds to me as if God is drawing the outline of the pictures for us to color in?
(09:51:15) (ron) which is the only perfectly working glandular center in the body
(09:51:24) (Roz) Enoch talks about the keepers
(09:51:32) (ron) of course, the Christ center is perfect :)
(09:52:21) (Wanda) I like that analogy Lynn
(09:52:53) (Lynn) Some of us scribble outside the lines?
(09:52:53) (Bill) you get pictures when you dream most likely just like visiting the records
(09:53:12) (ron) piectures = concepts
(09:53:32) (Leon) Includes a chair and an ezal for99 cents
(09:53:39) (Bill) It is a slow process in terms of our idea of time in this three-dimensional sphere. No creation was or is manifested suddenly, as has so often been believed. We now understand that between the spiritual and the material creations, their evolution and development, eons of time elapsed. Evolution never ends; it is continuous.
(09:54:10) (mark) 99 per cent
(09:55:07) (Bill) and i read some Cayce material the other day tthat said our evolution could have taken place over the last 2 to 3 hundred million yrs.
(09:55:22) (Lory) WOW
(09:55:30) (ron) wow
(09:55:39) (ron) wow indeed :)
(09:56:12) (Lory) We all must have been very bad children somewhere along the line.
(09:56:16) (Leon) It's about time someone leveled with me on that point, thanks Bill.
(09:56:35) (ron) slow learner here
(09:56:59) (Cris) Just enmeshed in life Ron
(09:57:08) (Bill) he said about 300,000,000 we were like a clump of clay
(09:57:09) (ron) :)
(09:57:33) (Bill) TIME and SPACE: There is no such things as “time” and no such thing as “space”, except as concepts necessary for the convenience of man while in the earth. Time and space do not exist apart from man’s experience in this three-dimensional sphere.
(09:57:39) (Wanda) sometimes still feel like a clump of clay
(09:57:41) (Leon) That's allright, I'm a college graduate and God can't thke that away from me.
(09:57:45) (Lynn) I think some of us may have climbed to a high vantage point, and then fallen and have to climb up again.
(09:58:17) (WalksInSpirit) I found a page that says Metatron is the highest of the "Recording Angels" (of the Akashic Records) and is congruent with Thoth/Hermes.
(09:58:41) (WalksInSpirit) www.spiritheart.org/articles/metatron.htm
(09:58:58) (Bill) “(2533-8) Upon time and space is written experience ~~ the thoughts, the deeds, the activities of an entity, as in relationship to its environs, its hereditary influence; as directed or judgment drawn by, or according to what the entity’s ideal is.
(10:00:18) (Bill) “Hence, as it has been oft called, the record is God’s Book of Remembrance. Each entity, each soul, as the activities of a single day of an entity in the material world, either makes some good or bad or indifferent, depending upon the entity’s application of self towards that which is the ideal manner for the use of time, opportunity and the EXPRESSION of that for which each soul enters a material manifestation.” (1650-1)
(10:01:08) (Bill) “. . . Time and space are the elements of man’s own concept of the infinite, and are not realities as would be any bodily element in the earth ~~ as a tree, a rose, a bird, an animal, or even a fellow being” (2533-8.)
(10:01:18) (Lynn) Sounds like if we set our ideals too high, we´re in trouble. But if we don´t set them high enough, there´s no interesting challenge.
(10:01:47) (ernie) thats where insight
(10:01:53) (ernie) meditate
(10:02:03) (ernie) know self
(10:02:05) (ernie) lol
(10:02:18) (Lynn) I like challenge. lol
(10:03:16) (Bill) do we have time for some more or is that enough for this evening?
(10:03:16) (Bill) do we have time for some more or is that enough for this evening?
(10:03:28) (merri) more!
(10:03:34) (Lynn) more
(10:03:42) (ron) whatever you wish Bill...i enjoyed this session very much
(10:03:51) (Bill) These excerpts from readings are included with the hope that they will give a new approach to the understanding of the scope of the experience that come to each of us as we move through the vast realms of God. From this comes or is built our individual state of consciousness.
(10:03:54) (ernie) say more
(10:03:57) (ernie) lol
(10:04:02) (Lory) Interesting study. More if you feel up to it.
(10:04:23) (ernie) yes good bill
(10:04:26) (Bill) CREATION: “Souls are atoms in the body of God.” (900.)
(10:04:43) (Bill) (5749-3) – “Q-3: Discuss the various phases of spiritual development before and after reincarnation in the earth.
(10:05:04) (Bill) “A-3: This may be illustrated best in that which has been sought through example in the earth. When there was in the beginning a man’s advent into the plane known as earth, and it became a living soul, amenable to the laws that govern the plane itself as presented, the Son of Man entered the earth as the first man.
(10:05:37) (Bill) Hence the Son of Man, the Son of God, the Son of the First Cause, making manifest in a material body. This was not the first spiritual influence, spiritual body, spiritual manifestation in the earth, but the first man ~~ flesh and blood, the first carnal house, the first amenable body to the laws of the plane in its position in the universe.
(10:06:10) (Bill) “FOR THE EARTH IS ONLY AN ATOM IN THE UNIVERSE OF WORLDS!
(10:06:22) (Bill) “And man’s development began through the laws of the generations in the earth; thus the development, retardment, or the alteration in those positions in a material plane.
(10:06:52) (Bill) “And with error entered that as called death, which is only a transition, through God’s other door, into that realm where the entity has builded, in its manifestations as related to the knowledge and activity respecting the law of the universal influence.
(10:07:24) (Bill) “Hence the development is through the planes of experience that an entity may become one with the First Cause, even as the ANGELS that wait before the Throne bring the access of the influence in the experience through the desires and activities of an entity or being, in whatever state, place or plane of development the entity is passing.
(10:07:39) (ernie) that why everything matters
(10:07:40) (Anne) i was in the deepest place i could be, and a voice said to me why has th
(10:08:04) (Anne) thou tried to fool me
(10:08:14) (Bill) “For in the comprehension of no time, no space, no beginning, no end, there may be the glimpse of what simple transition or birth into the material is: as passing through the door into another consciousness.
(10:08:51) (Bill) “Death in the material plane is passing through the outer door into a consciousness in the material activities that partakes of what the entity, or soul, has done with its spiritual truth in its manifestations in the sphere.
(10:08:59) (ernie) yes'
(10:09:25) (Bill) “Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of FLESH and BLOOD through the earth plane, he became indeed the Son ~~ through the things He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came in the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.” (5749-3)
(10:09:29) (ernie) correct the sphere
(10:09:30) (Anne) the only answer i could give was no one can fool you
(10:10:10) (Bill) “(5753-1) Each soul that enters, then, must have had an impetus from some beginning that is of the Creative Energy, or of a First Cause.
(10:10:39) (Anne) and the voice said why have you tried to fool thy self, and it did say thy
(10:10:46) (Bill) “What then was ~~ or is ~~ the First Cause? For if there be law pertaining to the First Cause it must be an unchangeable law, and is ~~ IS ~~ and I AM that I AM! For this is the basis from which one would reason.
(10:11:24) (Bill) “The First Cause was that the created would be the companion for the Creator, that it, the creature, . . . show itself to be not only worthy of, but companionable to, the Creator.
(10:12:03) (Bill) “Hence every form of life that man sees in a material world is an essence or manifestation of the Creator; not the Creator, but a manifestation of a First Cause, and in its own sphere, its own consciousness of its activity in that plane or sphere.
(10:12:06) (Anne) turning things to suit you
(10:12:41) (Bill) “Hence as man in this material world passes through, there are the manifestations of the attributes that the consciousness attributes to, or finds coinciding with that activity which is manifested; hence becomes then as the very principle of the law that would govern an entrance into a further manifestation.
(10:13:23) (Bill) “Then a soul, the offspring of a Creator, entering into a consciousness that becomes a manifestation in any plane or sphere of activity, given that free will for its use of those abilities, qualities, conditions in its experience, demonstrates, manifests, shows forth, that it reflects in its activity towards that First Cause.
(10:13:26) (Anne) Bill do you really understand what you are preaching
(10:13:53) (ernie) hes quoting
(10:14:15) (Bill) seems sort of straight forward Anne
(10:14:54) (Bill) “Hence in the various spheres that man sees (that are demonstrated, manifested in an before self) even in a material world, all forces, all activities, are a manifestation. Then that which would be companionable, the at-oneness with, the ability to be one with, becomes necessary for the demonstrating or manifestation of those attributes in and through all forces in a sphere.
(10:16:24) (Bill) “Because an atom, matter, a form is changed does not mean that the essence, the source spirit of it has changed ~~ only its form of manifestation, and NOT its relation with the First Cause. That man reaches the consciousness in the material plane of being aware of what he does about or with the knowledge, the intelligence,
(10:16:39) (ernie) everything is innerconected like in the force
(10:17:10) (Bill) the first cause, makes or produces that which is known as the entering into the first cause, principle, basis or the essence, that there may be demonstrated in that manifested that which gains for the soul, for the entity, that which would make the soul an acceptable companion to the Creative Force, Creative Influence.
(10:17:16) (Anne) Bill have you experenced any of this?
(10:17:44) (Bill) everyone here has Anne
(10:18:11) (Anne) i do not agree
(10:18:27) (Lynn) I have.
(10:18:39) (Anne) good for you
(10:18:48) (Lynn) you have also.
(10:18:57) (mark) I have also i just don't know it
(10:19:03) (Lory) This material came through Edgar Cayce from the Akashic Records, Anne. Bill is quoting verbatim.
(10:19:19) (Anne) amen i hope i have
(10:19:28) (Lynn) It sounds as if we are setting up a scene, such as a Christmas village together, God and us.
(10:19:44) (Anne) does not mean he understands
(10:19:56) (Lynn) But we are beginning to learn we can pick up the parts of the village and effectively contribute to the creation of it.
(10:20:04) (Bill) i think we'll wrap it up there for this evening before we get onto the next challege
(10:20:29) (mark) thanks Bill
(10:20:35) (merri) wonderful lesson Bill
(10:20:36) (ron) thanks bill
(10:20:39) (mark) and Anne
(10:20:50) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Bill! great chat! I really enjoyed the material tonight!
(10:20:52) (Lynn) than you Bill. Would you be willing to share with us what this means to you?
(10:21:09) (Anne) Bill like a honest dealer know what you are talking about, be honest
(10:21:20) (Bill) Lory's got this material for us and is doing my dirty work for me :o) !
(10:21:46) (Anne) walk the talk
(10:21:57) (Lory) This is really complex material and interconnects with the early beginning.
(10:22:05) (Bill) Anne if you were reading and concentrating on the material i don't think you would be having such a hard time with it
(10:22:24) (Lynn) Anne, are you ok?
(10:22:34) (Anne) not with the material
(10:22:51) (Anne) the seaver
(10:23:27) (Bill) we have been going over this same material for a few yrs. now twice in going through the SFG books and once when i gave the lessons on Universal Laws
(10:23:28) (Anne) sea, server
(10:23:57) (Lory) This is direct quotations from Edgar Cayce readings, Anne.
(09:31:36) (Bill) Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
(09:32:04) (merri) Amen
(09:32:07) (Roz) Amen
(09:32:08) (Lory) Amen
(09:32:08) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:32:09) (Lynn) Come
(09:32:10) (ron) amen
(09:32:13) (Cheryl) .Amen
(09:32:28) (Wanda) Amen
(09:32:32) (Cris) Amen
(09:32:41) (Bill) Because the story of Creation is so complex and so difficult to present, and because certain thought-provoking concepts intertwine, we shall introduce some of them here and avoid interruptions that would complicate and entangle the thread of the story.
(09:32:44) (mark) Amen
(09:33:09) (Bill) AKASHIC RECORDS
(09:33:17) (Bill) The Akashic Records are those built by each soul, each planet, each star or universe, in its relationship to that through which it moves toward its ultimate goal. In man, they constitute the soul memory, the pictures or patterns of every word, thought, or deed.
(09:34:03) (Bill) Many persons throughout the history of man have possessed active psychic ability. The word ‘psychic’ is from the Greek psyche, the soul. A psychic is one who is able to use the soul forces to a greater degree than the average person.
(09:34:39) (Bill) Examples are Socrates, Plato, Noah, Joshua, Edgar Cayce ~~ and the greatest of all, Jesus.
(09:34:58) (Bill) All of these and many more we could cite were able to view, and read, and understand the Akashic Records. No matter how remote this may seem to us in the present, we too have this ability, if it were developed and used, and it could become again a faculty of our daily experience.
(09:35:36) (Bill) “In giving the interpretations of these records, these are upon the skeins of time and space. Oh that all would realize, come to the consciousness that what we are . . . is the combine result of what we have done about the ideals we have set.” (1549-1)
(09:36:14) (Bill) It becomes quite alarming when we realize that not a word we have spoken, no thought we have harbored, nor one act committed that is not fully recorded in this Soul Book of Life.
(09:36:40) (Bill) Q-8: What is meant by the Book of Life?
(09:36:51) (Bill) A-8: “The record that the individual entity itself writes upon the skein of time and space, through patience, and is opened when self has attuned to the infinite, and may be read by those attuning to that consciousness.” (2533-8)
(09:37:28) (Bill) Q-11: What is meant by the Akashic Records?
(09:37:35) (Bill) A-11: “Those made by the individual.” (2533-8)
(09:37:28) (Bill) Q-11: What is meant by the Akashic Records?
(09:37:35) (Bill) A-11: “Those made by the individual.” (2533-8)
(09:37:55) (Bill) “For the light moves on in time, in space; and upon that skein between them are the records written by each soul in its activity through eternity ~~ through its awareness . . . not only in matter but in thought, in whatever realm that entity builds for itself in its experience, in its journey, in its activity.” (815-2)
(09:38:29) (Bill) The physicist builds in the field of mathematics, the artist in the field of demonstration and color, the musician in sound, and so on. All are a part of the soul’s ability, according to that field in which it has developed.
(09:39:48) (Bill) “. . . Activity of any nature, as of the voice, as of a light made, produces in the natural forces those of a motion, which pass on, or are upon the record of that as time. As may be illustrated in the atomic vibrations as set in motion for those in that called the audition, or the radio in its activity. . . Hence, light forces pass much faster;
(09:40:35) (Bill) ; but the records are upon the esoteric, or etheric, or the akashic forces, as they go along upon the wheels of time, the wings of time, or in whatever dimension we may signify as a matter of its momentum or movement.
(09:41:12) (Bill) Hence, as the forces that are attuned to those various incidents, periods, times, places, may be accorded to the record, the contact, as of the needle upon the record, as to how clear a rendition or audition is received, or how clear or how perfect the attunement of the instrument used, as the reproducer of same is attuned to those keepers ~~ as may be termed ~~ of these records.
(09:42:03) (Bill) What would be indicated by the keepers? That as just given that they are the records upon the wings or the wheel of time itself. Time, as that of space ~~ at inter-between.
(09:42:31) (Bill) That inter-between, that which is, that of which, that from one object to another when in matter is of the same nature, or what that is, is what the other is, only changed in its vibration to produce that element, or that force, as is termed in man’s terminology as dimensions of space, or dimensions that give it, whatever may be the solid, liquid, gas, or what its form or dimension.” (364-6)
(09:44:34) (Bill) well not to sure if i grasp that but thats what Cayce says about the Akashic records now if you bare with me i'll line up a little more material for this evening
(09:45:29) (Lory) One comment about the Akashic records. If there are keepers there must be an angel for each soul to make the recordings of everything we say, do and think. Oh may what a thought.
(09:46:55) (mark) our own higher selfs does the recording?
(09:47:47) (Bill) Part 2
(09:48:23) (merri) isn't that 3 dimensional thinking Lory....wouldn't our thought, saying, etc with it's separate vibrations leave their impressions on time & space
(09:48:24) (Bill) SPIRITUAL CREATIONS and PHYSICAL CREATIONS in (Before the Beginning): The information from the readings and the Bible tells us that each creation takes place in spirit before it is manifested in materiality. In His mind, God imaged the pattern for each creation; and because God is spirit, this creation in all God’s imaging was spiritual in nature.
(09:48:40) (Bill) yes Merri
(09:48:59) (Lory) Sounds right merri, however was Cayce's comment about keepers?
(09:49:34) (Bill) Each image, or pattern, is the law which draws and controls the material, as it flows in, to bring the completed creation, or filling in, of the image in materiality. This activity as it progresses we call evolution.
(09:49:48) (WalksInSpirit) The Archangel Metatron is supposed to be in charge of the Records, according to research Blu and I have done.
(09:50:29) (ron) how about winged Mercury :)
(09:50:45) (ron) the planetary ruler of the Christ center, the pineal
(09:50:54) (mark) and Thoth
(09:50:59) (Bill) Evolution:
(09:51:02) (Bill) : The evolutionary process was a part of every pattern that God set for the development of both spiritual and material creations. All form moves in and out of matter following the images set in spirit by God; for their complete evolution.
(09:51:15) (Lynn) Bill, what you said sounds to me as if God is drawing the outline of the pictures for us to color in?
(09:51:15) (ron) which is the only perfectly working glandular center in the body
(09:51:24) (Roz) Enoch talks about the keepers
(09:51:32) (ron) of course, the Christ center is perfect :)
(09:52:21) (Wanda) I like that analogy Lynn
(09:52:53) (Lynn) Some of us scribble outside the lines?
(09:52:53) (Bill) you get pictures when you dream most likely just like visiting the records
(09:53:12) (ron) piectures = concepts
(09:53:32) (Leon) Includes a chair and an ezal for99 cents
(09:53:39) (Bill) It is a slow process in terms of our idea of time in this three-dimensional sphere. No creation was or is manifested suddenly, as has so often been believed. We now understand that between the spiritual and the material creations, their evolution and development, eons of time elapsed. Evolution never ends; it is continuous.
(09:54:10) (mark) 99 per cent
(09:55:07) (Bill) and i read some Cayce material the other day tthat said our evolution could have taken place over the last 2 to 3 hundred million yrs.
(09:55:22) (Lory) WOW
(09:55:30) (ron) wow
(09:55:39) (ron) wow indeed :)
(09:56:12) (Lory) We all must have been very bad children somewhere along the line.
(09:56:16) (Leon) It's about time someone leveled with me on that point, thanks Bill.
(09:56:35) (ron) slow learner here
(09:56:59) (Cris) Just enmeshed in life Ron
(09:57:08) (Bill) he said about 300,000,000 we were like a clump of clay
(09:57:09) (ron) :)
(09:57:33) (Bill) TIME and SPACE: There is no such things as “time” and no such thing as “space”, except as concepts necessary for the convenience of man while in the earth. Time and space do not exist apart from man’s experience in this three-dimensional sphere.
(09:57:39) (Wanda) sometimes still feel like a clump of clay
(09:57:41) (Leon) That's allright, I'm a college graduate and God can't thke that away from me.
(09:57:45) (Lynn) I think some of us may have climbed to a high vantage point, and then fallen and have to climb up again.
(09:58:17) (WalksInSpirit) I found a page that says Metatron is the highest of the "Recording Angels" (of the Akashic Records) and is congruent with Thoth/Hermes.
(09:58:41) (WalksInSpirit) www.spiritheart.org/articles/metatron.htm
(09:58:58) (Bill) “(2533-8) Upon time and space is written experience ~~ the thoughts, the deeds, the activities of an entity, as in relationship to its environs, its hereditary influence; as directed or judgment drawn by, or according to what the entity’s ideal is.
(10:00:18) (Bill) “Hence, as it has been oft called, the record is God’s Book of Remembrance. Each entity, each soul, as the activities of a single day of an entity in the material world, either makes some good or bad or indifferent, depending upon the entity’s application of self towards that which is the ideal manner for the use of time, opportunity and the EXPRESSION of that for which each soul enters a material manifestation.” (1650-1)
(10:01:08) (Bill) “. . . Time and space are the elements of man’s own concept of the infinite, and are not realities as would be any bodily element in the earth ~~ as a tree, a rose, a bird, an animal, or even a fellow being” (2533-8.)
(10:01:18) (Lynn) Sounds like if we set our ideals too high, we´re in trouble. But if we don´t set them high enough, there´s no interesting challenge.
(10:01:47) (ernie) thats where insight
(10:01:53) (ernie) meditate
(10:02:03) (ernie) know self
(10:02:05) (ernie) lol
(10:02:18) (Lynn) I like challenge. lol
(10:03:16) (Bill) do we have time for some more or is that enough for this evening?
(10:03:16) (Bill) do we have time for some more or is that enough for this evening?
(10:03:28) (merri) more!
(10:03:34) (Lynn) more
(10:03:42) (ron) whatever you wish Bill...i enjoyed this session very much
(10:03:51) (Bill) These excerpts from readings are included with the hope that they will give a new approach to the understanding of the scope of the experience that come to each of us as we move through the vast realms of God. From this comes or is built our individual state of consciousness.
(10:03:54) (ernie) say more
(10:03:57) (ernie) lol
(10:04:02) (Lory) Interesting study. More if you feel up to it.
(10:04:23) (ernie) yes good bill
(10:04:26) (Bill) CREATION: “Souls are atoms in the body of God.” (900.)
(10:04:43) (Bill) (5749-3) – “Q-3: Discuss the various phases of spiritual development before and after reincarnation in the earth.
(10:05:04) (Bill) “A-3: This may be illustrated best in that which has been sought through example in the earth. When there was in the beginning a man’s advent into the plane known as earth, and it became a living soul, amenable to the laws that govern the plane itself as presented, the Son of Man entered the earth as the first man.
(10:05:37) (Bill) Hence the Son of Man, the Son of God, the Son of the First Cause, making manifest in a material body. This was not the first spiritual influence, spiritual body, spiritual manifestation in the earth, but the first man ~~ flesh and blood, the first carnal house, the first amenable body to the laws of the plane in its position in the universe.
(10:06:10) (Bill) “FOR THE EARTH IS ONLY AN ATOM IN THE UNIVERSE OF WORLDS!
(10:06:22) (Bill) “And man’s development began through the laws of the generations in the earth; thus the development, retardment, or the alteration in those positions in a material plane.
(10:06:52) (Bill) “And with error entered that as called death, which is only a transition, through God’s other door, into that realm where the entity has builded, in its manifestations as related to the knowledge and activity respecting the law of the universal influence.
(10:07:24) (Bill) “Hence the development is through the planes of experience that an entity may become one with the First Cause, even as the ANGELS that wait before the Throne bring the access of the influence in the experience through the desires and activities of an entity or being, in whatever state, place or plane of development the entity is passing.
(10:07:39) (ernie) that why everything matters
(10:07:40) (Anne) i was in the deepest place i could be, and a voice said to me why has th
(10:08:04) (Anne) thou tried to fool me
(10:08:14) (Bill) “For in the comprehension of no time, no space, no beginning, no end, there may be the glimpse of what simple transition or birth into the material is: as passing through the door into another consciousness.
(10:08:51) (Bill) “Death in the material plane is passing through the outer door into a consciousness in the material activities that partakes of what the entity, or soul, has done with its spiritual truth in its manifestations in the sphere.
(10:08:59) (ernie) yes'
(10:09:25) (Bill) “Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of FLESH and BLOOD through the earth plane, he became indeed the Son ~~ through the things He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came in the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.” (5749-3)
(10:09:29) (ernie) correct the sphere
(10:09:30) (Anne) the only answer i could give was no one can fool you
(10:10:10) (Bill) “(5753-1) Each soul that enters, then, must have had an impetus from some beginning that is of the Creative Energy, or of a First Cause.
(10:10:39) (Anne) and the voice said why have you tried to fool thy self, and it did say thy
(10:10:46) (Bill) “What then was ~~ or is ~~ the First Cause? For if there be law pertaining to the First Cause it must be an unchangeable law, and is ~~ IS ~~ and I AM that I AM! For this is the basis from which one would reason.
(10:11:24) (Bill) “The First Cause was that the created would be the companion for the Creator, that it, the creature, . . . show itself to be not only worthy of, but companionable to, the Creator.
(10:12:03) (Bill) “Hence every form of life that man sees in a material world is an essence or manifestation of the Creator; not the Creator, but a manifestation of a First Cause, and in its own sphere, its own consciousness of its activity in that plane or sphere.
(10:12:06) (Anne) turning things to suit you
(10:12:41) (Bill) “Hence as man in this material world passes through, there are the manifestations of the attributes that the consciousness attributes to, or finds coinciding with that activity which is manifested; hence becomes then as the very principle of the law that would govern an entrance into a further manifestation.
(10:13:23) (Bill) “Then a soul, the offspring of a Creator, entering into a consciousness that becomes a manifestation in any plane or sphere of activity, given that free will for its use of those abilities, qualities, conditions in its experience, demonstrates, manifests, shows forth, that it reflects in its activity towards that First Cause.
(10:13:26) (Anne) Bill do you really understand what you are preaching
(10:13:53) (ernie) hes quoting
(10:14:15) (Bill) seems sort of straight forward Anne
(10:14:54) (Bill) “Hence in the various spheres that man sees (that are demonstrated, manifested in an before self) even in a material world, all forces, all activities, are a manifestation. Then that which would be companionable, the at-oneness with, the ability to be one with, becomes necessary for the demonstrating or manifestation of those attributes in and through all forces in a sphere.
(10:16:24) (Bill) “Because an atom, matter, a form is changed does not mean that the essence, the source spirit of it has changed ~~ only its form of manifestation, and NOT its relation with the First Cause. That man reaches the consciousness in the material plane of being aware of what he does about or with the knowledge, the intelligence,
(10:16:39) (ernie) everything is innerconected like in the force
(10:17:10) (Bill) the first cause, makes or produces that which is known as the entering into the first cause, principle, basis or the essence, that there may be demonstrated in that manifested that which gains for the soul, for the entity, that which would make the soul an acceptable companion to the Creative Force, Creative Influence.
(10:17:16) (Anne) Bill have you experenced any of this?
(10:17:44) (Bill) everyone here has Anne
(10:18:11) (Anne) i do not agree
(10:18:27) (Lynn) I have.
(10:18:39) (Anne) good for you
(10:18:48) (Lynn) you have also.
(10:18:57) (mark) I have also i just don't know it
(10:19:03) (Lory) This material came through Edgar Cayce from the Akashic Records, Anne. Bill is quoting verbatim.
(10:19:19) (Anne) amen i hope i have
(10:19:28) (Lynn) It sounds as if we are setting up a scene, such as a Christmas village together, God and us.
(10:19:44) (Anne) does not mean he understands
(10:19:56) (Lynn) But we are beginning to learn we can pick up the parts of the village and effectively contribute to the creation of it.
(10:20:04) (Bill) i think we'll wrap it up there for this evening before we get onto the next challege
(10:20:29) (mark) thanks Bill
(10:20:35) (merri) wonderful lesson Bill
(10:20:36) (ron) thanks bill
(10:20:39) (mark) and Anne
(10:20:50) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Bill! great chat! I really enjoyed the material tonight!
(10:20:52) (Lynn) than you Bill. Would you be willing to share with us what this means to you?
(10:21:09) (Anne) Bill like a honest dealer know what you are talking about, be honest
(10:21:20) (Bill) Lory's got this material for us and is doing my dirty work for me :o) !
(10:21:46) (Anne) walk the talk
(10:21:57) (Lory) This is really complex material and interconnects with the early beginning.
(10:22:05) (Bill) Anne if you were reading and concentrating on the material i don't think you would be having such a hard time with it
(10:22:24) (Lynn) Anne, are you ok?
(10:22:34) (Anne) not with the material
(10:22:51) (Anne) the seaver
(10:23:27) (Bill) we have been going over this same material for a few yrs. now twice in going through the SFG books and once when i gave the lessons on Universal Laws
(10:23:28) (Anne) sea, server
(10:23:57) (Lory) This is direct quotations from Edgar Cayce readings, Anne.
