Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 5, 2005 22:31:56 GMT -5
Search For God - Book One Study: 12-05-05
Lesson Seven: "Patience"
(09:29:26) (Bill) every ones in good spirits this evening and focus on our purpose for this evening :o)
(09:30:53) (Bill) : In your patience possess ye your souls.” ( Luke 21.19) AFFIRMATION: How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of Life. (262-24) Amen
(09:31:25) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:33) (merri) Amen
(09:31:45) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:31:47) (ron) amen
(09:31:54) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:57) (One) May it be as so.
(09:32:00) (ark777) Amen
(09:32:01) (patricia) Amen
(09:32:09) (Wanda) Amen
(09:32:15) (virtual_girl) so be it
(09:32:37) (Bill) Introduction: God is the God of patience. All nature declares this. It is written in the rocks, the caverns, the hills, and the valleys ~~ yea, deep in the heart of the earth. It is no less written in the souls of men by Him who has shown Himself to be long-suffering, forbearing, and willing, though it takes ages, for all to come to the knowledge of the light
(09:33:59) (Bill) Patience is an activity of the God-mind within each soul. Its expression involves mental, physical, and spiritual thought and action. Through patience we learn to know self, to measure and test our ideals, to use faith, and to seek understanding through virtue. Thus all spiritual attributes are embraced in patience.Patience is an activity of the God-mind within each soul. Its expression involves mental, physical, and spiritual thought and action. Through
(09:35:05) (Bill) As we exercise patience day by day, we know how well we have put into activity the lessons learned from past experiences. Patience puts all the virtues into action. With patience we become channels of blessings to others ~~ serving not in our way, but in His way ~~ not once, but as long as there is need of service.
(09:36:07) (Bill) Value of Patience: Patience is a test of our development. Manifested in our daily lives, it shows whether we have used or abused the opportunities presented during former experiences. What great understanding results when we exercise this attribute!
(09:36:35) (Bill) It is through patience that we get a better understanding of the Father and His relationship to His children. It is through patience that we get a better understanding of the crosses that we bear day by day
(09:36:56) (Bill) He that is without crosses has ceased to be of notice and is no longer among the sons. We may be called upon to bear not only our own crosses but those of others. If we would approach the Throne, we must come leaning upon the arm of a brother we have helped. This manifests our relationship to each other.
(09:37:38) (Bill) Patience, as nothing else, shows growth. We often find ourselves so able to meet some difficult problems that we feel we have solved them before. Doubtless we have, again and again. At other times we are not able to cope with problems not nearly so intricate. Why do we have such experiences? If we fail in meeting these in the right spirit and find ourselves beaten, do we not act the parts of weaklings?
(09:38:52) (Bill) As we realize our mistakes, we become ashamed that we lost hold of ourselves, and resolve that we will profit by the mistakes. Because of these experiences, we should ever afterwards count ourselves happy to endure, and be more willing to wait until we are better understood, and until we can better understand. It is the lessons learned through patience that in the end strengthen and help us; then we become examples to others.
(09:39:26) (roses) be happy to have endured yes !
(09:39:33) (Bill) Something, too, has taken place within us, for something is written that the hand of time cannot efface. We have found a pearl of great price to be set in the soul, where it will remain through all eternity.
(09:40:10) (Bill) How kind is the wise provision of the Father~~ He gives to us each moment just what we are able to use. We cannot use aright that which we do not understand. “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.” (John 16.12) As we do our bit to make His promises real by showing our brother that we understand his burdens and are ready to help him bear them, we become more and more able to know the love of the Father and more conscious of conscious of our own growth.(09:41:24) (One) Yes, our needs are met in the moment.
(09:41:45) (Bill) The beauty of the soul shows in the life of an individual who has patience. This comes to those who have a constant, prayerful attitude for a purposeful life. In order to have this beauty of the soul’s expression, it is necessary that we forget ourselves. It is not altogether an outward growth but an inward one, too. It is the result of introspection, which is the foundation of deep meditation.
(09:42:47) (Bill) Love is manifested in every word and act, even as it was in those of the Master. So, through patience let us magnify His attributes in our experiences. There is nothing to regret in exercising patience ~~ there is everything, in the loss of it. We are building for eternity. Results do not always manifest at once.
(09:43:24) (Bill) One individual relates the following experience: “I was called upon to pass through a great trial. My supply of patience and endurance seemed to become more and more depleted as the days went by. Beginning to realize, at last, that I was only an instrument ~~
(09:43:45) (Bill) ~~ a channel through which God’s will was being manifested ~~ my strength and courage gradually returned until, without fear, I faced the issues at stake and came to a clearer and better understanding of the problem. It was worth all to have patiently waited and to have felt His presence.”
(09:44:12) (Bill) His presence with peace is the promise to us who with patience endure the crosses that are set before us day by day.
(09:44:47) (Bill) Means through which Patience Is Gained: In patience we become aware of our presence before the Throne. Let us seek often, then, to awaken our inner selves. With patience this may be accomplished. If we lose hold on ourselves, through the lack of patience, there is the opportunity for the entering in of those things that would make us afraid.
(09:45:15) (virtual_girl) thank you Bill, must rest, peace.
(09:45:25) (One) Each is Given according to their needs determined by that as recorded upon the Akashic.Wb
(09:45:44) (Bill) In waiting we have the promise that His strength is sufficient for us. There is no danger of defeat, and there is no cause for fear. It is necessary, however, that we be in perfect attunement with our ideal, if we are desirous of possessing this virtue, patience, that is so necessary for our spiritual growth.
(09:46:14) (Bill) . There may come many harassing experiences that would seem to separate us from the Maker, but each experience has its reward. As we seek, let us know that the Comforter, who will speak for us at all times, is near, and we will never be left alone.
(09:46:49) (Bill) The understanding of His laws will come, little by little, as we apply what we already know. The development of patience requires prayer and a constant watch upon ourselves, lest we be off guard and let slip an angry words or a quick retort, causing someone to stumble. Think of these things. Selfishness retards our progress in gaining patience.
(09:47:25) (Bill) The recognition of this means the taking of a bold step, but a necessary one, if we would have that patience with others that we are desiring for ourselves. Lose self in Him; find self in service. Lose self in Him; find self one with the Father.
(09:47:50) (Bill) . The step is magic, the realization divine, when every act, every thought, and every word is so actuated by the spirit of patience that others will endeavor to emulate our example. This becomes the natural experience to the heart that recognizes God in everyone.
(09:48:22) (Bill) In the trails that arise day by day, our patience is tested. We begin to grow as we overcome and put behind us each new obstacle. Passive submission will not suffice; our patience must be an active, growing force which rises to meet each new trial.
(09:49:08) (Bill) Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth and purgeth every one, for corruption may not inherit eternal life, but must be burned up. Let us know that our God is a consuming fire and must purge everyone that would be one with Him. (See Heb. 12:6…I Cor. 15:50…Deut. 4:24)
(09:49:40) (Bill) We overcome only through patience. We develop by pressing on, by expending spiritual energy, and in so doing we open the way for God to lend the sustaining strength of His presence in times of trail and tests that come to all.
(09:50:13) (Bill) How may we more perfectly live the life that we may through patience gain the better understanding? By applying what we know day by day. The Spirit does not call on us to live what we do not already know and understand. In doing there comes the knowledge and the understanding for the next step.
(09:50:39) (Bill) . When should we begin? Today, for “Now is the accepted time,” (II Cor. 6.2) we read. Let us enter in through faith and with patience wait for the next step. Those of us who make ourselves unworthy of being tried are unworthy of being trusted for the entering in.
(09:51:35) (Bill) okay folks thats enough to digest for one evening comments , critisms, and input welcome now :o)
(09:52:03) (Cheryl) Beautiful, Bill. Don't end there.... :-)
(09:52:03) (One) Good stuff Bill.
(09:52:14) (Lory) Thank you Bill. For me, this is the MOST IMPORTANT lesson that I can learn.
(09:52:17) (One) A little is better.
(09:52:21) (BlackWolf) *impatient for further wisdom* :o)
(09:52:25) (One) Better digested.
(09:52:45) (One) Apply what he has given now in your lives.
(09:53:05) (Roz) you forget just how good this materail is
(09:53:05) (Bill) any part some one wishs to review ask and i can repost for clearity
(09:53:36) (Bill) thats for sure Roz we can never review it enough
(09:54:12) (WalksInSpirit) Bill, that was great! Thank you very much!
(09:54:14) (BlackWolf) What is meant by spiritual energy; as in 'expending spiritual energy' is this a form of meditative action?
(09:54:27) (Roz) something new everytime you go over it
(09:56:24) (Roz) spiritual energy the transducers from the spiritual body to the physical body
(09:56:49) (ron) as would be expressed, or given out on the material, physical plane
(09:57:36) (Roz) activated thru meditation in the goldenSilence
(09:58:00) (roses) transducers?
(09:58:23) (Bill) okay BW i finally found and reread the part my quess is expending siritual energy is living what we know and holding to our highest ideal
(09:58:44) (friend_to_mankind) God Loves a humble contrite spirit
(09:59:07) (roses) contrite?
(09:59:11) (Bill) you'll have to desipher my spelling :o)
(09:59:21) (roses) decipher lol
(09:59:25) (One) Well said Bill
(09:59:26) (Bill) God is the God of patience. All nature declares this. It is written in the rocks, the caverns, the hills, and the valleys ~~ yea, deep in the heart of the earth. It is no less written in the souls of men by Him who has shown Himself to be long-suffering, forbearing, and willing, though it takes ages, for all to come to the knowledge of the light
(09:59:55) (friend_to_mankind) deeply repentant,feeling guilty
(10:00:01) (roses) ah
(10:00:18) (roses) I am not sure God does want people to feel guilty
(10:00:28) (Bill) this posted statement should set us back in aw when we consider all the blessing we've been given over the enons to get where we're at today
(10:00:40) (friend_to_mankind) read your Bible
(10:00:50) (roses) but repentant yeah, to get to more spriritual way
(10:00:53) (ron) then, who is the cause of our guilt?
(10:01:06) (Blu) feeling it is not the same as hanging on to it , guilt that is
(10:01:23) (One) Yes, even thinking wrong of another should make one cringe.
(10:01:46) (roses) only the innocent hang onto guilt
(10:01:59) (Bill) Jag God doesn't want us to feel guilty He wishs us to learn patience ( one of the facets of love) and all the rest of corse :o)
(10:02:00) (roses) the guilty try innocence for a guise mostly
(10:02:27) (roses) I'll be a faucet of love
(10:02:41) (friend_to_mankind) God Loves the broken ones
(10:04:16) (Bill) in patence we eccept responsibilty for our actions and strive for higher choices
(10:04:33) (One) God would rather man would not do the things that should make one feel guilty of wrong doing.
(10:04:43) (Roz) thats the biggie Bill
(10:04:49) (Barnma) true
(10:04:51) (Bill) we eccept the crosses we must bare for the lower choices made in the past and grow from them
(10:05:03) (BlackWolf) It seems like patience, takes us away from our patterns of reactions to things around us.
(10:05:43) (Bill) in a way BW what we should be striving for is habitual reactions that express the will of God
(10:06:26) (One) Conscious Expression of His Will by Way of Christ.
(10:06:27) (friend_to_mankind) Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made ,and all those things hath been ,saith the Lord :but to this man will I look,even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit ,and trembleth at my word
(10:06:33) (Bill) most of us react in a negative manner me included very often but it does improve over time with work
(10:07:12) (roses) Spontaneous reactions to express will of god come from spirit, and that is bester than by rote
(10:08:05) (Bill) in over coming our short comings one at a time we develope good spontanious reactions
(10:08:32) (roses) spontaneous!
(10:09:09) (Bill) sure Jag be a spelling critic :o)
(10:09:27) (ron) bill, you must be patient :)
(10:09:44) (Bill) oh Ron now you tell me :o)
(10:09:49) (ron) lol
(10:10:10) (One) Only in disillusion and suffering, in time, space and patience, does he come to the wisdom that His True Will is the Wilkl of God, and in Its Practice Is Happiness and Heaven.
(10:10:27) (Bill) yes Friend meet the Lord with a humble spirit
(10:10:52) (One) In allowing the Spirit of Christ to Operate in your Stead do you Come To Know Heaven.
(10:11:31) (Bill) btw if i'm slow in answering its cause i'm a slow reader and thinker
(10:11:32) (Barnma) if one walks in an elevated level of spiritual awareness then it is easier for that person to live in patience yes?
(10:12:34) (ron) but, are there still more tests of patience still to come?
(10:12:42) (friend_to_mankind) And seekest thou great things for thyself ! Seek them not ;for behold I will bring evil upon all flesh,saith the Lord;but thy life will I give as a prey in all places whither thou goest Jerimiah 45:5
(10:13:10) (Bill) Barnma i'm not to sure about elevation but being aware of our every thought and deed is a good thing (know thy self)
(10:13:37) (Blu) I think the more you know the bigger the tests get...
(10:14:15) (Barnma) One of the problems in talking about patience is that it covers such a broad spectrum of human experience
(10:14:21) (ron) thus, one has greater endurance?
(10:14:33) (One) In the accomplishment of good, self must first be conquered and put into submission to the Will of the Giver, the Omnipotnt Force as is manifested through the various phases of those experiences in which the Oneness in Him Is Made One With Him , The All. Cayce 5618-8
(10:14:38) (friend_to_mankind) the more you know the more there is required of you
(10:14:49) (Barnma) from coping with slow elevators to coping with terminal illness, from reacting to your cat which wees on the carpet to reacting to the Creator God of the Universe when your prayers go unanswered
(10:14:51) (Bill) in that casr Blu they are tests we had coming from past choices and we are now able to deal with them because we are never given more than we can handle
(10:15:05) (BlackWolf) Awareness of our thoughts and deeds, there is a key idea. When aware of our thoughts and actions we can pratice patience. (Or clobber the ofending party) :o)
(10:15:12) (Barnma) so patience then is on so many different levels
(10:15:16) (Barnma) hmmmmmmm
(10:15:42) (Bill) yes friend with knowledge comes responsibility
(10:15:51) (Barnma) so let me get this, patience is enduring suffering.....so that would be accepting defeat
(10:16:12) (Blu) not really Barnma
(10:16:15) (Barnma) so patience would be in NOT accepting suffering
(10:16:20) (ron) i don't see defeat
(10:16:35) (friend_to_mankind) Perfect through suffering hebrews 2:10
(10:16:36) (Blu) Like when Jesus died, it was not defeat, but overcoming the physical.
(10:16:41) (Barnma) I am all confused.....nothing new there
(10:17:11) (One) Patience, love, kindness, gentleness, long suffering, brotherly love of themselves bring peace. Cayce 3175-1
(10:17:18) (friend_to_mankind) rely upon the Word of God
(10:17:20) (Blu) It's about realizing the truth of the bigger picture instead of the immediate now.
(10:17:23) (Barnma) PRO 16:32 Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.
(10:17:37) (friend_to_mankind) it is the Sword of the Lord
(10:17:51) (roses) that rymes
(10:18:04) (One) God Is in the material experience of man...Time. Space and Patience! Cayce 262-14
(10:18:05) (Roz) patience would be theassurance the we are being led and guided everymoment of our lives
(10:18:07) (roses) obvious and never saw it, ;o)
(10:18:07) (Bill) excepting resonsibility for the actions that created your given situation Barnma and putting the experience to good use ( spiritual growth)
(10:18:37) (Barnma) 1TI 1:16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.
(10:18:38) (roses) jesus ascended
(10:18:47) (Barnma) ah haaaaaa ok Bill I think I am getting it now
(10:18:50) (One) Patience is the most beautiful of all virtues and the least understood. Cayce 2448-2
(10:19:01) (Barnma) sorry am slow tonight, just getting over very bad bout of the flu
(10:19:16) (roses) wow One
(10:19:47) (One) Patience is meekness in action, pureness in heart. 262-25
(10:19:54) (roses) Black Wolf what to do about flu?
(10:19:59) (ron) and stay away from chicken :)
(10:20:04) (BlackWolf) *offers Inspirol inhalant to Barnma* :o)
(10:20:36) (friend_to_mankind) patience is faith in action stepping off into the unknown with God
(10:20:38) (roses) Inspirol
(10:20:44) (merri) what does patience have to do with meekness?
(10:20:51) (BlackWolf) Make sure yout food combinations are alklinizing, no fruits or sweets with proteins or vegetables.
(10:20:55) (One) Everything.
(10:20:57) (ron) patience is faith...very good
(10:20:58) (Bill) what greater example of patience can you imagine than that of God's willingness to grant us free will then sit back for eons of time allowing us to grow back to His fold and giving us this opportunity to do so
(10:21:28) (roses) wow f2m
(10:22:00) (Barnma) back
(10:22:06) (roses) patience is faith.....
(10:22:18) (Roz) exackle Bill
(10:22:27) (ron) very good bill
(10:22:28) (roses) alkinizing is God ;o) Ty BW
(10:22:47) (One) If one smite thee on the check, did he say withdraw? No! Rather, turn the other! Be active in patience; be active in thy relationships with thy fellow man. Cayce 815-2
(10:23:20) (roses) yeah Roz and Bill!
(10:23:28) (roses) That's Patience
(10:23:44) (friend_to_mankind) Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart ;and lean not unto thine own understanding .In all thy ways acknowledge Him ,and he shall direct thy paths
(10:24:00) (Bill) gee Merri i started to type out an answer for you but it was going to take a couple pages to explain :o0
(10:24:03) (roses) be active in patience, excellent
(10:24:19) (roses) anyone now how to copy and past in mirc?
(10:24:21) (Bill) meekness , don't be over bareing
(10:25:08) (One) Patience doesn't mean patience in the sense of just being submissive, or just being quiet...but being an active patience, conscious of being patient with self and with others. Force self to do some unpleasant things that it hasn't wanted to do once in a while and like it. Cayce 911-3
(10:25:23) (roses) the meek are patient for they will inherit the earth, but it's taken several millenia
(10:26:30) (Bill) well folks i must go to the rescue and fix a water leak for a motel now and its freezeing out ( thats my wine for this evening ) so i'd best be going than you all very much you inspire me when we have positive imput! Love and Light to each of you !!
(10:26:31) (friend_to_mankind) Luke 21:19 (Jesus speaking) In your patience possess ye your souls
(10:27:03) (roses) blessings Bill
(10:27:12) (ark777) blessings Bill and thanks you for study
(09:30:53) (Bill) : In your patience possess ye your souls.” ( Luke 21.19) AFFIRMATION: How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of Life. (262-24) Amen
(09:31:25) (Roz) Amen
(09:31:33) (merri) Amen
(09:31:45) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:31:47) (ron) amen
(09:31:54) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:57) (One) May it be as so.
(09:32:00) (ark777) Amen
(09:32:01) (patricia) Amen
(09:32:09) (Wanda) Amen
(09:32:15) (virtual_girl) so be it
(09:32:37) (Bill) Introduction: God is the God of patience. All nature declares this. It is written in the rocks, the caverns, the hills, and the valleys ~~ yea, deep in the heart of the earth. It is no less written in the souls of men by Him who has shown Himself to be long-suffering, forbearing, and willing, though it takes ages, for all to come to the knowledge of the light
(09:33:59) (Bill) Patience is an activity of the God-mind within each soul. Its expression involves mental, physical, and spiritual thought and action. Through patience we learn to know self, to measure and test our ideals, to use faith, and to seek understanding through virtue. Thus all spiritual attributes are embraced in patience.Patience is an activity of the God-mind within each soul. Its expression involves mental, physical, and spiritual thought and action. Through
(09:35:05) (Bill) As we exercise patience day by day, we know how well we have put into activity the lessons learned from past experiences. Patience puts all the virtues into action. With patience we become channels of blessings to others ~~ serving not in our way, but in His way ~~ not once, but as long as there is need of service.
(09:36:07) (Bill) Value of Patience: Patience is a test of our development. Manifested in our daily lives, it shows whether we have used or abused the opportunities presented during former experiences. What great understanding results when we exercise this attribute!
(09:36:35) (Bill) It is through patience that we get a better understanding of the Father and His relationship to His children. It is through patience that we get a better understanding of the crosses that we bear day by day
(09:36:56) (Bill) He that is without crosses has ceased to be of notice and is no longer among the sons. We may be called upon to bear not only our own crosses but those of others. If we would approach the Throne, we must come leaning upon the arm of a brother we have helped. This manifests our relationship to each other.
(09:37:38) (Bill) Patience, as nothing else, shows growth. We often find ourselves so able to meet some difficult problems that we feel we have solved them before. Doubtless we have, again and again. At other times we are not able to cope with problems not nearly so intricate. Why do we have such experiences? If we fail in meeting these in the right spirit and find ourselves beaten, do we not act the parts of weaklings?
(09:38:52) (Bill) As we realize our mistakes, we become ashamed that we lost hold of ourselves, and resolve that we will profit by the mistakes. Because of these experiences, we should ever afterwards count ourselves happy to endure, and be more willing to wait until we are better understood, and until we can better understand. It is the lessons learned through patience that in the end strengthen and help us; then we become examples to others.
(09:39:26) (roses) be happy to have endured yes !
(09:39:33) (Bill) Something, too, has taken place within us, for something is written that the hand of time cannot efface. We have found a pearl of great price to be set in the soul, where it will remain through all eternity.
(09:40:10) (Bill) How kind is the wise provision of the Father~~ He gives to us each moment just what we are able to use. We cannot use aright that which we do not understand. “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.” (John 16.12) As we do our bit to make His promises real by showing our brother that we understand his burdens and are ready to help him bear them, we become more and more able to know the love of the Father and more conscious of conscious of our own growth.(09:41:24) (One) Yes, our needs are met in the moment.
(09:41:45) (Bill) The beauty of the soul shows in the life of an individual who has patience. This comes to those who have a constant, prayerful attitude for a purposeful life. In order to have this beauty of the soul’s expression, it is necessary that we forget ourselves. It is not altogether an outward growth but an inward one, too. It is the result of introspection, which is the foundation of deep meditation.
(09:42:47) (Bill) Love is manifested in every word and act, even as it was in those of the Master. So, through patience let us magnify His attributes in our experiences. There is nothing to regret in exercising patience ~~ there is everything, in the loss of it. We are building for eternity. Results do not always manifest at once.
(09:43:24) (Bill) One individual relates the following experience: “I was called upon to pass through a great trial. My supply of patience and endurance seemed to become more and more depleted as the days went by. Beginning to realize, at last, that I was only an instrument ~~
(09:43:45) (Bill) ~~ a channel through which God’s will was being manifested ~~ my strength and courage gradually returned until, without fear, I faced the issues at stake and came to a clearer and better understanding of the problem. It was worth all to have patiently waited and to have felt His presence.”
(09:44:12) (Bill) His presence with peace is the promise to us who with patience endure the crosses that are set before us day by day.
(09:44:47) (Bill) Means through which Patience Is Gained: In patience we become aware of our presence before the Throne. Let us seek often, then, to awaken our inner selves. With patience this may be accomplished. If we lose hold on ourselves, through the lack of patience, there is the opportunity for the entering in of those things that would make us afraid.
(09:45:15) (virtual_girl) thank you Bill, must rest, peace.
(09:45:25) (One) Each is Given according to their needs determined by that as recorded upon the Akashic.Wb
(09:45:44) (Bill) In waiting we have the promise that His strength is sufficient for us. There is no danger of defeat, and there is no cause for fear. It is necessary, however, that we be in perfect attunement with our ideal, if we are desirous of possessing this virtue, patience, that is so necessary for our spiritual growth.
(09:46:14) (Bill) . There may come many harassing experiences that would seem to separate us from the Maker, but each experience has its reward. As we seek, let us know that the Comforter, who will speak for us at all times, is near, and we will never be left alone.
(09:46:49) (Bill) The understanding of His laws will come, little by little, as we apply what we already know. The development of patience requires prayer and a constant watch upon ourselves, lest we be off guard and let slip an angry words or a quick retort, causing someone to stumble. Think of these things. Selfishness retards our progress in gaining patience.
(09:47:25) (Bill) The recognition of this means the taking of a bold step, but a necessary one, if we would have that patience with others that we are desiring for ourselves. Lose self in Him; find self in service. Lose self in Him; find self one with the Father.
(09:47:50) (Bill) . The step is magic, the realization divine, when every act, every thought, and every word is so actuated by the spirit of patience that others will endeavor to emulate our example. This becomes the natural experience to the heart that recognizes God in everyone.
(09:48:22) (Bill) In the trails that arise day by day, our patience is tested. We begin to grow as we overcome and put behind us each new obstacle. Passive submission will not suffice; our patience must be an active, growing force which rises to meet each new trial.
(09:49:08) (Bill) Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth and purgeth every one, for corruption may not inherit eternal life, but must be burned up. Let us know that our God is a consuming fire and must purge everyone that would be one with Him. (See Heb. 12:6…I Cor. 15:50…Deut. 4:24)
(09:49:40) (Bill) We overcome only through patience. We develop by pressing on, by expending spiritual energy, and in so doing we open the way for God to lend the sustaining strength of His presence in times of trail and tests that come to all.
(09:50:13) (Bill) How may we more perfectly live the life that we may through patience gain the better understanding? By applying what we know day by day. The Spirit does not call on us to live what we do not already know and understand. In doing there comes the knowledge and the understanding for the next step.
(09:50:39) (Bill) . When should we begin? Today, for “Now is the accepted time,” (II Cor. 6.2) we read. Let us enter in through faith and with patience wait for the next step. Those of us who make ourselves unworthy of being tried are unworthy of being trusted for the entering in.
(09:51:35) (Bill) okay folks thats enough to digest for one evening comments , critisms, and input welcome now :o)
(09:52:03) (Cheryl) Beautiful, Bill. Don't end there.... :-)
(09:52:03) (One) Good stuff Bill.
(09:52:14) (Lory) Thank you Bill. For me, this is the MOST IMPORTANT lesson that I can learn.
(09:52:17) (One) A little is better.
(09:52:21) (BlackWolf) *impatient for further wisdom* :o)
(09:52:25) (One) Better digested.
(09:52:45) (One) Apply what he has given now in your lives.
(09:53:05) (Roz) you forget just how good this materail is
(09:53:05) (Bill) any part some one wishs to review ask and i can repost for clearity
(09:53:36) (Bill) thats for sure Roz we can never review it enough
(09:54:12) (WalksInSpirit) Bill, that was great! Thank you very much!
(09:54:14) (BlackWolf) What is meant by spiritual energy; as in 'expending spiritual energy' is this a form of meditative action?
(09:54:27) (Roz) something new everytime you go over it
(09:56:24) (Roz) spiritual energy the transducers from the spiritual body to the physical body
(09:56:49) (ron) as would be expressed, or given out on the material, physical plane
(09:57:36) (Roz) activated thru meditation in the goldenSilence
(09:58:00) (roses) transducers?
(09:58:23) (Bill) okay BW i finally found and reread the part my quess is expending siritual energy is living what we know and holding to our highest ideal
(09:58:44) (friend_to_mankind) God Loves a humble contrite spirit
(09:59:07) (roses) contrite?
(09:59:11) (Bill) you'll have to desipher my spelling :o)
(09:59:21) (roses) decipher lol
(09:59:25) (One) Well said Bill
(09:59:26) (Bill) God is the God of patience. All nature declares this. It is written in the rocks, the caverns, the hills, and the valleys ~~ yea, deep in the heart of the earth. It is no less written in the souls of men by Him who has shown Himself to be long-suffering, forbearing, and willing, though it takes ages, for all to come to the knowledge of the light
(09:59:55) (friend_to_mankind) deeply repentant,feeling guilty
(10:00:01) (roses) ah
(10:00:18) (roses) I am not sure God does want people to feel guilty
(10:00:28) (Bill) this posted statement should set us back in aw when we consider all the blessing we've been given over the enons to get where we're at today
(10:00:40) (friend_to_mankind) read your Bible
(10:00:50) (roses) but repentant yeah, to get to more spriritual way
(10:00:53) (ron) then, who is the cause of our guilt?
(10:01:06) (Blu) feeling it is not the same as hanging on to it , guilt that is
(10:01:23) (One) Yes, even thinking wrong of another should make one cringe.
(10:01:46) (roses) only the innocent hang onto guilt
(10:01:59) (Bill) Jag God doesn't want us to feel guilty He wishs us to learn patience ( one of the facets of love) and all the rest of corse :o)
(10:02:00) (roses) the guilty try innocence for a guise mostly
(10:02:27) (roses) I'll be a faucet of love
(10:02:41) (friend_to_mankind) God Loves the broken ones
(10:04:16) (Bill) in patence we eccept responsibilty for our actions and strive for higher choices
(10:04:33) (One) God would rather man would not do the things that should make one feel guilty of wrong doing.
(10:04:43) (Roz) thats the biggie Bill
(10:04:49) (Barnma) true
(10:04:51) (Bill) we eccept the crosses we must bare for the lower choices made in the past and grow from them
(10:05:03) (BlackWolf) It seems like patience, takes us away from our patterns of reactions to things around us.
(10:05:43) (Bill) in a way BW what we should be striving for is habitual reactions that express the will of God
(10:06:26) (One) Conscious Expression of His Will by Way of Christ.
(10:06:27) (friend_to_mankind) Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made ,and all those things hath been ,saith the Lord :but to this man will I look,even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit ,and trembleth at my word
(10:06:33) (Bill) most of us react in a negative manner me included very often but it does improve over time with work
(10:07:12) (roses) Spontaneous reactions to express will of god come from spirit, and that is bester than by rote
(10:08:05) (Bill) in over coming our short comings one at a time we develope good spontanious reactions
(10:08:32) (roses) spontaneous!
(10:09:09) (Bill) sure Jag be a spelling critic :o)
(10:09:27) (ron) bill, you must be patient :)
(10:09:44) (Bill) oh Ron now you tell me :o)
(10:09:49) (ron) lol
(10:10:10) (One) Only in disillusion and suffering, in time, space and patience, does he come to the wisdom that His True Will is the Wilkl of God, and in Its Practice Is Happiness and Heaven.
(10:10:27) (Bill) yes Friend meet the Lord with a humble spirit
(10:10:52) (One) In allowing the Spirit of Christ to Operate in your Stead do you Come To Know Heaven.
(10:11:31) (Bill) btw if i'm slow in answering its cause i'm a slow reader and thinker
(10:11:32) (Barnma) if one walks in an elevated level of spiritual awareness then it is easier for that person to live in patience yes?
(10:12:34) (ron) but, are there still more tests of patience still to come?
(10:12:42) (friend_to_mankind) And seekest thou great things for thyself ! Seek them not ;for behold I will bring evil upon all flesh,saith the Lord;but thy life will I give as a prey in all places whither thou goest Jerimiah 45:5
(10:13:10) (Bill) Barnma i'm not to sure about elevation but being aware of our every thought and deed is a good thing (know thy self)
(10:13:37) (Blu) I think the more you know the bigger the tests get...
(10:14:15) (Barnma) One of the problems in talking about patience is that it covers such a broad spectrum of human experience
(10:14:21) (ron) thus, one has greater endurance?
(10:14:33) (One) In the accomplishment of good, self must first be conquered and put into submission to the Will of the Giver, the Omnipotnt Force as is manifested through the various phases of those experiences in which the Oneness in Him Is Made One With Him , The All. Cayce 5618-8
(10:14:38) (friend_to_mankind) the more you know the more there is required of you
(10:14:49) (Barnma) from coping with slow elevators to coping with terminal illness, from reacting to your cat which wees on the carpet to reacting to the Creator God of the Universe when your prayers go unanswered
(10:14:51) (Bill) in that casr Blu they are tests we had coming from past choices and we are now able to deal with them because we are never given more than we can handle
(10:15:05) (BlackWolf) Awareness of our thoughts and deeds, there is a key idea. When aware of our thoughts and actions we can pratice patience. (Or clobber the ofending party) :o)
(10:15:12) (Barnma) so patience then is on so many different levels
(10:15:16) (Barnma) hmmmmmmm
(10:15:42) (Bill) yes friend with knowledge comes responsibility
(10:15:51) (Barnma) so let me get this, patience is enduring suffering.....so that would be accepting defeat
(10:16:12) (Blu) not really Barnma
(10:16:15) (Barnma) so patience would be in NOT accepting suffering
(10:16:20) (ron) i don't see defeat
(10:16:35) (friend_to_mankind) Perfect through suffering hebrews 2:10
(10:16:36) (Blu) Like when Jesus died, it was not defeat, but overcoming the physical.
(10:16:41) (Barnma) I am all confused.....nothing new there
(10:17:11) (One) Patience, love, kindness, gentleness, long suffering, brotherly love of themselves bring peace. Cayce 3175-1
(10:17:18) (friend_to_mankind) rely upon the Word of God
(10:17:20) (Blu) It's about realizing the truth of the bigger picture instead of the immediate now.
(10:17:23) (Barnma) PRO 16:32 Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.
(10:17:37) (friend_to_mankind) it is the Sword of the Lord
(10:17:51) (roses) that rymes
(10:18:04) (One) God Is in the material experience of man...Time. Space and Patience! Cayce 262-14
(10:18:05) (Roz) patience would be theassurance the we are being led and guided everymoment of our lives
(10:18:07) (roses) obvious and never saw it, ;o)
(10:18:07) (Bill) excepting resonsibility for the actions that created your given situation Barnma and putting the experience to good use ( spiritual growth)
(10:18:37) (Barnma) 1TI 1:16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.
(10:18:38) (roses) jesus ascended
(10:18:47) (Barnma) ah haaaaaa ok Bill I think I am getting it now
(10:18:50) (One) Patience is the most beautiful of all virtues and the least understood. Cayce 2448-2
(10:19:01) (Barnma) sorry am slow tonight, just getting over very bad bout of the flu
(10:19:16) (roses) wow One
(10:19:47) (One) Patience is meekness in action, pureness in heart. 262-25
(10:19:54) (roses) Black Wolf what to do about flu?
(10:19:59) (ron) and stay away from chicken :)
(10:20:04) (BlackWolf) *offers Inspirol inhalant to Barnma* :o)
(10:20:36) (friend_to_mankind) patience is faith in action stepping off into the unknown with God
(10:20:38) (roses) Inspirol
(10:20:44) (merri) what does patience have to do with meekness?
(10:20:51) (BlackWolf) Make sure yout food combinations are alklinizing, no fruits or sweets with proteins or vegetables.
(10:20:55) (One) Everything.
(10:20:57) (ron) patience is faith...very good
(10:20:58) (Bill) what greater example of patience can you imagine than that of God's willingness to grant us free will then sit back for eons of time allowing us to grow back to His fold and giving us this opportunity to do so
(10:21:28) (roses) wow f2m
(10:22:00) (Barnma) back
(10:22:06) (roses) patience is faith.....
(10:22:18) (Roz) exackle Bill
(10:22:27) (ron) very good bill
(10:22:28) (roses) alkinizing is God ;o) Ty BW
(10:22:47) (One) If one smite thee on the check, did he say withdraw? No! Rather, turn the other! Be active in patience; be active in thy relationships with thy fellow man. Cayce 815-2
(10:23:20) (roses) yeah Roz and Bill!
(10:23:28) (roses) That's Patience
(10:23:44) (friend_to_mankind) Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart ;and lean not unto thine own understanding .In all thy ways acknowledge Him ,and he shall direct thy paths
(10:24:00) (Bill) gee Merri i started to type out an answer for you but it was going to take a couple pages to explain :o0
(10:24:03) (roses) be active in patience, excellent
(10:24:19) (roses) anyone now how to copy and past in mirc?
(10:24:21) (Bill) meekness , don't be over bareing
(10:25:08) (One) Patience doesn't mean patience in the sense of just being submissive, or just being quiet...but being an active patience, conscious of being patient with self and with others. Force self to do some unpleasant things that it hasn't wanted to do once in a while and like it. Cayce 911-3
(10:25:23) (roses) the meek are patient for they will inherit the earth, but it's taken several millenia
(10:26:30) (Bill) well folks i must go to the rescue and fix a water leak for a motel now and its freezeing out ( thats my wine for this evening ) so i'd best be going than you all very much you inspire me when we have positive imput! Love and Light to each of you !!
(10:26:31) (friend_to_mankind) Luke 21:19 (Jesus speaking) In your patience possess ye your souls
(10:27:03) (roses) blessings Bill
(10:27:12) (ark777) blessings Bill and thanks you for study
