Lesson Two: "Know Thyself"

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Search For God - Book One: 09-05-05

Lesson Two: "Know Thyself"

(08:30:38) (Bill) Know Thyself : Lesson No. II “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” ~~ I Cor. 12.27.
(08:31:15) (Bill) Affirmation: ~~ Father, as we seek to see and know Thy face, may we each, as individuals and as a group, come to know ourselves, even as we are known, that we ~~ as lights in Thee ~~ may give the better concept of Thy Spirit in this world. (262-5)
(08:31:42) (Lory) Amen
(08:31:52) (Tug) Amen
(08:31:52) (Andrew) Yes !
(08:31:59) (Ral) Amen
(08:32:01) (Cris) Amen
(08:32:01) (diane) Amen
(08:32:03) (torontal) amen
(08:32:09) (Bill) Amen
(08:32:13) (ron) amen
(08:32:21) (merri) Amen
(08:32:25) (kazu) amen
(08:32:29) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(08:32:47) (Roz) amen
(08:33:09) (Bill) . If they were manifested, we would see ourselves in a different light. We would understand the real functions of our physical bodies in relation to our mental and spiritual bodies. Until we are better acquainted with ourselves, we are barriers in the way of our own development.
(08:33:53) (Bill) Each of us must first know that we must set a standard of measurement, of valuation, of precept, and concept. Let us not measure by earthly standards, if we would know ourselves. Rather measure by that which we have found within ourselves to be our ideal, know in what we believe, and act that way. Let us, therefore, be willing to be measured, not by what we have, but by what we give.
(08:34:35) (Lory) Let it ever be so.
(08:34:41) (Tug) agreed
(08:34:52) (Bill) The pysical Body: ~~ To know ourselves is not only to be cognizant of the acts of our physical bodies, but to know ourselves as entities, complete factors, capable of knowing all that goes on within and without.
(08:35:08) (Bill) . This spring of knowledge is tapped only by those who are willing to pay the price. The price is a complete surrender of ourselves, with a purification and a dedication that come only through prayer, meditation, and service. It is along the straight and narrow way, but it is open to all. The water of life is offered freely.
(08:36:10) (Bill) As entities, we are miniature copies of the universe, possessing physical, mental and spiritual bodies. These bodies are so closely associated and related that the vibrations of one affect the other two. Our mental, especially, partakes of the other two: in the physical, as the conscious mind, and in the spiritual, as the superconscious mind.
(08:36:52) (Bill) Or bodies are temples of the living God. It has pleased God to so manifest Himself in the world. All parts of our bodies must work in unison, for should one war against another, discord would naturally follow. Each part has its functions, and so important is it that no other part can take its place; neither can any part be counted insignificant and useless.
(08:37:28) (Bill) Each organ has its individual function and desires, which are in themselves holy. The senses make us conscious of the magnified desires or natures of our physical bodies. These are registered in the activities of our physical bodies in such a way that they are stamped upon our very faces.
(08:38:14) (Bill) These senses are attuned to the physical, each vibrating according to the training and concentration of the physical forces, seeking expression of the inner self of which our physical bodies are material representations. For not only do the impressions received through the senses show forth that which is magnified in a single appearance or experience, but the whole impressions that have been received through all of our experiences, the registering being in our
(08:38:21) (Bill) These are registered in a material way in our physiognomy.
(08:39:42) (Bill) THE MENTAL AND SPIRITUAL BODIES ~~ In the same manner the desires of our mental and spiritual bodies build our individualities. This process of building has been going on for ages
(08:40:06) (Bill) . The great factors of heredity, environment, karma, thought vibration and the action of universal laws in the planes beyond the physical all have their influences, just as the desires and vibrations of the physical organs attract and build the composition of the physical body. We are the results not only of the development of the race before us but also of our individual development that has been going on since our creation as individual souls.
(08:41:02) (Jaguar_Rose) inner peace in chaos
(08:41:09) (Bill) We are the sum total of all our experiences in every state of consciousness. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14.2) (states of consciousness). In our body temples we are building, by thoughts and acts, not only our physical bodies, but the mental and spiritual bodies as well. Christ, the Master, said: “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh our of the mouth, this defileth a man.” (Matt. 15.11)
(08:41:11) (Ral) is psiognomy shape of the head bill ?
(08:41:33) (Ral) define this pl
(08:41:34) (Bill) don't know the word Ral
(08:41:41) (Ral) dang
(08:42:11) (Bill) ) Those of us who live to gratify only our fleshly bodies may be beautiful without, but we have so starved our souls that we are able to give out only that which makes for discord and corruption. In speaking of the scribes and Pharisees, Jesus said: “For ye are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
(08:42:19) (diane) Ral is thinking of phrenology
(08:42:20) (Roz) physiognomy. =physical shape
(08:42:32) (Bill) ty Roz
(08:43:08) (Bill) . Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.”(Matt. 23.27, 28) The same principle may be applied to right thinking, for we become what we think.
(08:43:33) (Bill) The soul will seek that which it has builded, not only in the material plane but in the universal, for “as a tree falls, so will it lie.” (Eccl.11:3.) This is well understood if we know and study ourselves, for we will realize that each experience is a lesson to help bring the knowledge of the Whole, that “I and my Father are one.” (John 10.30.)
(08:44:11) (Bill) When we are seeking to lose ourselves in the Whole, it is possible to see ourselves as did the individual who had the following dream: “I saw myself pass out of my body and become three bodies, physical, mental, and spiritual. At first the physical was the largest, but as the other two grew it gradually became smaller, until it finally faded into dust. The others then grew larger and moved around fourth dimensionally.”
(08:44:27) (WalksInSpirit) PHYSIOGNOMY
(08:44:27) (WalksInSpirit) Pronunciation: `fizee'âgnumee
(08:44:27) (WalksInSpirit) Definition: [n] the human face (`kisser' and `smiler' and `mug' are informal terms for `face'; `phiz' is British)
(08:44:48) (Jaguar_Rose) physiognomonie, from the Greek expression fy`sis
(08:44:49) (Bill) When our acts and thoughts are measured by the standard of Christ, and when we reach the place where we desire only to be channels of blessing to others, we have lost sight of ourselves. Then we have the mind of Christ, for He came not to be ministered to, but to minister, and gave His life a ransom for many.
(08:45:09) (Jaguar_Rose) nature one who knows or examines, judge, from to know
(08:45:37) (Roz) fourth dimension = ideas
(08:46:06) (Bill) Okay your home work for this wk. will now be posted so take note, then we'll discuss this evenings lesson:
(08:46:14) (Bill) Spend the week building positive mental attitudes. Avoid judging or criticizing others. Repeat the following affirmation as you meditate and whenever you feel vulnerable to negative attitudes such as doubt and fear: “My mind is the builder of positive, loving thoughts, which bring me closer to my Creator.”
(08:46:19) (Roz) alrightey
(08:46:51) (Jaguar_Rose) "To read the mind's construction in the face."
(08:47:21) (Lory) In the book Search for God Pharaphrased, the comment following the word physiognomy is thus: "Each individual should know; First comes application, then understanding and finally knowledge of that applied. When both body and thought are active, awakening soon comes to the entity of the life within."
(08:48:26) (Jaguar_Rose) Non Judgment
(08:49:28) (Tug) great lesson Bill...well spoken
(08:49:38) (Bill) now lets consider this: and comment.
(08:49:40) (Bill) Each of us must first know that we must set a standard of measurement, of valuation, of precept, and concept. Let us not measure by earthly standards, if we would know ourselves. Rather measure by that which we have found within ourselves to be our ideal, know in what we believe, and act that way. Let us, therefore, be willing to be measured, not by what we have, but by what we give.
(08:50:35) (Roz) give out as well as give
(08:50:48) (Bill) by what we give, eg., love, joy to others, set examples
(08:50:49) (Lory) If we give with a loving heart the return is immeasurable.
(08:51:55) (Bill) know in what we believe any one here have trouble with that??
(08:53:34) (Lory) We cannot measure by earthly standards, Bill. We must seek from within, and surely each of us are different in what we feel and believe.
(08:54:06) (Bill) how many consider as this is put. ~~ To know ourselves is not only to be cognizant of the acts of our physical bodies, but to know ourselves as entities, complete factors, capable of knowing all that goes on within and without. This spring of knowledge is tapped only by those who are willing to pay the price. The price is a complete surrender of ourselves, with a purification and a dedication that come only through prayer, meditation, and service.
(08:54:30) (Bill) yes Lory we are individuals but our ideals should stem from One Sourse
(08:55:08) (Q) you mean like to consecrate yourself Bill?
(08:56:06) (Bill) the importance of our thoughts are metioned here;As entities, we are miniature copies of the universe, possessing physical, mental and spiritual bodies. These bodies are so closely associated and related that the vibrations of one affect the other two. Our mental, especially, partakes of the other two: in the physical, as the conscious mind, and in the spiritual, as the superconscious mind.
(08:57:07) (Bill) not sure i quite understand consecrate myself or our self Q
(08:58:30) (Lory) to devote solemnly to a purpose is to consecrate oneself, Bill.
(08:58:36) (Q) The things the Aaronic priesthood had to do before intering the Holies of Holy.
(08:59:00) (Q) that sounded funny huh.
(08:59:01) (Bill) our ideals may differ Lory but if we are on the path they will still be leading us in the same direction
(08:59:25) (diane) The Holy of Holies....Q
(08:59:35) (Q) yah.. what diane said.
(08:59:38) (Lory) A very sacred space.
(08:59:39) (diane) not the holies of holy. lol
(08:59:43) (ron) a purifying devotion
(08:59:46) (Q) thanx for the save diane.
(08:59:55) (Bill) yes in a way i'd have to say that is correct Q let go of the physical and put our trust and faith in the spiritual beings we are
(09:00:16) (diane) LOL Q! anytime
(09:00:36) (tenalias) be willing to step out of the box and be different as I always say
(09:00:40) (Bill) yes Ron
(09:01:00) (Bill) Or bodies are temples of the living God. It has pleased God to so manifest Himself in the world. All parts of our bodies must work in unison, for should one war against another, discord would naturally follow. Each part has its functions, and so important is it that no other part can take its place; neither can any part be counted insignificant and useless.
(09:01:06) (Q) the priesthood had a little ritual that had to be done .. bathe and prepare the clothings to be worn.. before any sacrafices were done and so forth.
(09:01:47) (Lory) Perhaps that is why we need to cleanse our bodies, as well, before entering meditation.
(09:01:53) (diane) "ablutions" were done to cleanse themselves
(09:02:02) (Bill) in our case here we could even consider just the cleansing of our thoughts Q
(09:02:05) (ron) thru the mind
(09:02:28) (ron) the cleansing of the mind
(09:02:33) (diane) that makes sense...cleanse the mind
(09:02:36) (Q) no metamucil huh.. (mental note to self).
(09:02:39) (Lory) as well, ron, yes, you are right.
(09:03:57) (tenalias) Q I remeber one thing from the bible "the last shall be first"
(09:04:07) (diane) Bill, are we to report on the results of our homework next week?
(09:04:25) (diane) I'm sure it'll have interesting results
(09:04:36) (Bill) how many have ever considered this before?: The senses make us conscious of the magnified desires or natures of our physical bodies. These are registered in the activities of our physical bodies in such a way that they are stamped upon our very faces.
(09:05:07) (diane) never thought of it
(09:05:09) (Bill) yes Diane it would be nice to know how each of us hads made out :o)
(09:05:23) (diane) ok....
(09:05:24) (ron) wasn't that called the science of phrenology?
(09:05:37) (Lory) That is considered expressions of the face, Bill. That is the meaning of phsiognomy
(09:05:46) (ron) in our hands as palmistry
(09:05:47) (diane) phrenology is the study of bumps on the head, ron
(09:06:29) (BlackWolf) Its all these strange medical diagnostic tehniques.:o)
(09:06:50) (ron) like how people shake their rattles
(09:06:54) (Jaguar_Rose) Shamans see this way
(09:07:05) (Bill) i've found it is very easy to be misslead and read a face incorrectly because we tent to judge it from our own persective :o)
(09:07:38) (Lory) How else can we judge it, if we must judge at all, Bill?
(09:08:00) (BlackWolf) A person under stress often appears different to their long term self. Not wishing to use the term, normal self.
(09:08:44) (Jaguar_Rose) By Non Judgement do we see clearly(09:09:02) (BlackWolf) Shape of the hesd could relate to craniosacral osteopathy for example.
(09:09:07) (diane) phrenology is the study of the bumps on the head, anon...this i know for sure
(09:09:29) (Raleigh) cayce spoke of the study of it i recall b/w
(09:09:43) (Jaguar_Rose) inner peace in Chaos is true self
(09:10:33) (Raleigh) the face cayce said / how beautiful the fcountnance of those that the lord shines upon
(09:10:33) (Bill) Lory except each we meet as Jesus would if they turn out to be undesirable to us then futher the relation ship no further
(09:10:50) (Jaguar_Rose) To read the mind's construction in the face."
(09:10:55) (Jaguar_Rose) Ral : To read the mind's construction in the face."
(09:11:08) (Raleigh) yes dianna / ec said it was a fact i recall
(09:11:22) (Jaguar_Rose) Ral : Physiognomy ( from physio, nature and gnosis, to judge)
(09:11:27) (Q) the study of phrenology is covered in one of Cayces discriptions of what the Essense used besides astrology.
(09:11:31) (Bill) . These senses are attuned to the physical, each vibrating according to the training and concentration of the physical forces, seeking expression of the inner self of which our physical bodies are material representations. For not only do the impressions received through the senses show forth that which is magnified in a single appearance or experience, but the whole impressions that have been received through all of our experiences, the registering being in
(09:11:32) (Raleigh) smile always and mean say live it jag
(09:11:40) (Bill) These are registered in a material way in our physiognomy.
(09:11:45) (Raleigh) live the smile jag
(09:12:08) (WalksInSpirit) PHYSIOGNOMY
(09:12:08) (WalksInSpirit) Pronunciation: `fizee'âgnumee
(09:12:08) (WalksInSpirit) Definition: [n] the human face (`kisser' and `smiler' and `mug' are informal terms for `face'; `phiz' is British)
(09:12:31) (Lory) And the inner self shows in the expression of our face. That is the meaning of phsiognomy.
(09:12:31) (ron) fall from grace
(09:12:37) (Raleigh) ty walks and jag
(09:13:12) (Bill) In the same manner the desires of our mental and spiritual bodies build our individualities. This process of building has been going on for ages. The great factors of heredity, environment, karma, thought vibration and the action of universal laws in the planes beyond the physical all have their influences,
(09:13:29) (Jaguar_Rose) Phrenology: As the skull takes its shape from the brain, the surface of the skull
(09:13:52) (Jaguar_Rose) can be read as an accurate index of psychological aptitudes
(09:13:58) (Lory) Phrenology and Phisiognomy are two different things.
(09:14:18) (diane) Completely different
(09:14:20) (Jaguar_Rose) physiognomy: read the face for spirit qualities
(09:14:35) (Jaguar_Rose) Phrenology: read the skull for what ones brain in like
(09:14:36) (Lory) True, J Rose.
(09:14:37) (Jaguar_Rose) lol
(09:14:41) (Raleigh) yes di / lory / i mixed the two words /
(09:14:44) (Bill) an other words our choices have have influenced our individualitys
(09:15:06) (Lory) Don't they always, Bill?
(09:15:13) (diane) duh

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Lesson Two: "Know Thyself:" 09-05-05, Part Two

(09:15:29) (Bill) just as the desires and vibrations of the physical organs attract and build the composition of the physical body. We are the results not only of the development of the race before us but also of our individual development that has been going on since our creation as individual souls.
(09:15:40) (Jaguar_Rose) Phrenology and phsiology are both meanderings in Cayces understanding that
(09:15:55) (Jaguar_Rose) spirit is behind our physicla self
(09:16:14) (Bill) We are the sum total of all our experiences in every state of consciousness. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14.2) (states of consciousness).
(09:16:16) (tenalias) like get thee behind me spirit
(09:16:57) (Bill) In our body temples we are building, by thoughts and acts, not only our physical bodies, but the mental and spiritual bodies as well. Christ, the Master, said: “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh our of the mouth, this defileth a man.”
(09:17:03) (diane) Thanks for chat Bill! very enjoyable. G-night all
(09:18:36) (Bill) The same principle may be applied to right thinking, for we become what we think.
(09:18:50) (Lory) Really a good lesson, Bill. A little difficult with the extra curriculum of chatting, but a good lesson. Thanks much.
(09:18:59) (Bill) The soul will seek that which it has builded, not only in the material plane but in the universal, for “as a tree falls, so will it lie.” (Eccl.11:3.) This is well understood if we know and study ourselves, for we will realize that each experience is a lesson to help bring the knowledge of the Whole, that “I and my Father are one.” (John 10.30.)
(09:21:24) (Bill) When we are seeking to lose ourselves in the Whole, it is possible to see ourselves as individuals
(09:21:56) (Jaguar_Rose) thats the paradox Bill
(09:22:00) (Bill) When our acts and thoughts are measured by the standard of Christ, and when we reach the place where we desire only to be channels of blessing to others, we have lost sight of ourselves. Then we have the mind of Christ, for He came not to be ministered to, but to minister, and gave His life a ransom for many.
(09:22:50) (Bill) thank you for your patience
(09:22:57) (WalksInSpirit) Bill, thanks so much. Good lesson & a timely one.
(09:23:03) (Bill) and also just for showing up!
(09:23:05) (Jaguar_Rose) thnak you Bill for your patience
(09:23:07) (Q) what book is this one in Bill.. just a refresher.?
(09:23:13) (Sandy) Thanks for the lesson
(09:23:15) (merri) thankyou Bill but you are leaving me with a question
(09:23:30) (Bill) Q this is from Search for God book One
(09:23:43) (Q) thanks Bill.
(09:23:50) (Bill) lets here it Merri :o)
(09:24:05) (merri) explain your last post
(09:24:15) (Anonymous) thanks Bill
(09:24:27) (Bill) this one? When our acts and thoughts are measured by the standard of Christ, and when we reach the place where we desire only to be channels of blessing to others, we have lost sight of ourselves. Then we have the mind of Christ, for He came not to be ministered to, but to minister, and gave His life a ransom for many.
(09:24:54) (merri) When we are seeking to lose ourselves in the Whole, it is possible to see ourselves as individuals
(09:26:15) (Jaguar_Rose) merri it is the difference of walking in Christ or walking in self
(09:26:42) (Jaguar_Rose) some are aided by loosing themself, others by finding self
(09:26:56) (Bill) when our acts and thoughts Merri are only for the betterment of all man kind and we can do this joyfully and from our heart we are expressing God's will in our every act we have lost our ego self in Him
(09:27:45) (merri) how does that help see ourselves as individuals
(09:27:57) (Jaguar_Rose) I think I see what you see merri, and it is not acontradiction if understood
(09:28:01) (merri) when one becomes absorbed into the whole?
(09:28:22) (Jaguar_Rose) Bill quoted that we best follow inner ideal
(09:28:30) (Jaguar_Rose) we can make that inner ideal to that of Christ
(09:28:31) (tenalias) I feel if would be more helpful if applied ving experiences were
(09:28:31) (Bill) these lessons are in the context of spiritual beings not in the gratifying of the physical which we some times don't separate
(09:28:34) (Jaguar_Rose) or our own ideal
(09:28:37) (tenalias) oops
(09:28:42) (Jaguar_Rose) or both if these be in harmony
(09:28:50) (Bill) yes J_R the ideal we have set
(09:28:53) (Jaguar_Rose) t I know what you mean there
(09:29:29) (Jaguar_Rose) of course merri, I am only guessing that is what you really ask about
(09:29:59) (merri) it is the individual aspect of the quote I'm asking about
(09:30:16) (tenalias) you do JR?
(09:30:29) (Jaguar_Rose) being absorbed inthe whole is not loss of self, but to be absorbed requires surrender, a kind of surrender, that Chirst, for example understood or shows
(09:30:30) (Bill) absorbed in the Whole , the understanding that each and everything is important nothing more than the other nothing less
(09:30:42) (Jaguar_Rose) so for some to lose self in Christ is a way to find self in the whole
(09:31:05) (Jaguar_Rose) for others, the ability to surrender makes them as Christed
(09:31:10) (Jaguar_Rose) if you see what I mean
(09:31:31) (merri) lol, no you are confusing me more!
(09:31:35) (Jaguar_Rose) yeah t living examples are always more meaningful than abstractions
(09:31:45) (Jaguar_Rose) abstractions lead to intellectual understanding
(09:31:51) (Jaguar_Rose) only
(09:32:45) (Bill) . Each part has its functions, and so important is it that no other part can take its place; neither can any part be counted insignificant and useless. so in the physical as in the spiritual
(09:33:24) (Bill) or in our actions they must always be of the highest measure
(09:34:47) (Q) so.. first you must appease the physical appetites.. then seek spiritual enlightenment.. to get lost in the whole. Is that it?
(09:35:00) (Bill) the more imput we get the more likely some one is to hit on some thing we can all relate to
(09:35:39) (Bill) Q create a balance within each of these would most likely be the ideal
(09:36:01) (Jaguar_Rose) what iI saw was that Bills quoted Cayce as saying to surrender in the all is to find slef
(09:36:14) (merri) once being absorbed into the Whole, it is hard to conceive one is still individual
(09:36:16) (Jaguar_Rose) and to surrender to Christ is to lose individuality to find the all
(09:36:24) (BlackWolf) The physical apettites are just an aspect of the way the everyday mind perceives the world, Q.
(09:36:24) (Q) anything outside of the basic nature of the physical appetites would be considered an overindulgence and should not be adhere too?
(09:36:38) (Jaguar_Rose) slightly different paths from different angles depending where one happens to be consude most I guess
(09:36:39) (Jaguar_Rose) lol
(09:36:45) (Jaguar_Rose) confused most
(09:37:28) (Q) I learned that once in the whole.. merri.. we can understand all of the inter-relatedness.
(09:37:43) (Q) but we keep our individuality.
(09:38:07) (BlackWolf) It is the concept of mental discipline, Q, not extremes loike waking up at 5:30 and showering in frozen water, but a control of one's actions and thoughts.
(09:38:13) (merri) in one breath you are saying one looses their individuality and the next you are still individual
(09:38:14) (Bill) Merri that is the fear many have (that they may losse their individuality) but that isn't the case our individuality is what makes us , its expressing our indiviuality in such a way that is for the betterment of all man kind in our own manner
(09:38:45) (Jaguar_Rose) yeah Q
(09:39:32) (Q) not really merri.. In the whole to me would be to just take a peek.. I don't think I could handle the all.. sort of like what is said in.. our faith.. we are given only our measure.. of what we are able to handle.
(09:39:41) (merri) well that makes a little more sense Bill
(09:39:54) (Jaguar_Rose) yes merri same breath but it makes sense
(09:40:05) (Q) else the prayer.. help me mine unbelief .. wouldn't occur.
(09:40:10) (Jaguar_Rose) its like a trajectory, where you view from makes a thing look different
(09:40:11) (Bill) not really Merri what it says is when our thoughts and actions are messured by:When our acts and thoughts are measured by the standard of Christ, and when we reach the place where we desire only to be channels of blessing to others, we have lost sight of ourselves. Then we have the mind of Christ, for He came not to be ministered to, but to minister, and gave His life a ransom for many.
(09:41:52) (Jaguar_Rose) there is no seperation and yet we are individuals
(09:42:00) (merri) so you are absorbed into the Whole but it is the individual Expression that is manifested?
(09:42:10) (Bill) each of us when we set idaels it is my understanding that those ideals are set by the standards or examples Jesus gave for us all good ones we could each and everyone benifit from
(09:42:13) (Joey) The Christ Consciousness is what was manifested through Cayce under hypnosis when self had been laid aside.
(09:43:17) (Jaguar_Rose) in a way , yes, merri, for the whole is so vast that in creation it gives rise to so much variation of which individuality is an experession
(09:43:49) (Jaguar_Rose) the fact of individuality is a truth about the nature of the all: It is so vast it gives rise to variietuy
(09:44:08) (Bill) yes Merri manifest our individuality with the Christ consciousness which is God's will that we each are One with the whole
(09:44:45) (merri) ok starting to see the light!!
(09:44:55) (Jaguar_Rose) it is more than Gods will, We ARE at one with the whole, it is Gods will we underatnd that
(09:45:08) (Jaguar_Rose) ....and stop all useless destruction
(09:45:25) (Jaguar_Rose) by our non comprehension of our divine nature at one with the all
(09:45:40) (Bill) each is as important as the other with any one or thing missing we are lesser
(09:45:49) (Q) I think of it like this merri.. God.. is the light.. and allu us.. is his patterns.. just a splinter of himself.. and we exist... individually.. but still have a divine origin.
(09:46:11) (Bill) just like taking a drop of water from the ocean may seem insignifigant yet the ocean is lesser for it
(09:46:15) (Joey) Each takes up Their Part In Him when self has been laid aside.
(09:46:43) (Q) being created in His Image.. is what gave me idea of a Patern.
(09:46:44) (Jaguar_Rose) me too
(09:46:46) (Jaguar_Rose) lol
(09:46:57) (Bill) yes Joey we each then become one in Him or a part of the Whole
(09:47:14) (merri) yes Q, I can relate to that
(09:48:18) (merri) we are part of theWhole but with individual Expression
(09:48:38) (Bill) actually we are part of the whole regardless but by setting self aside we then realize the signifigance
(09:48:42) (Q) here is an interesting question.. I hope you can answer it Bill.. what pattern did Jesus used.. ?
(09:49:08) (merri) Christ Consciousness
(09:49:13) (mark) the christ
(09:49:13) (Q) he always did say.. not mine will but thine.. so His ol'man was it wasnt' it?
(09:49:22) (Bill) the One he let withing each of us Q the Holy Spirit , God's will for each of us
(09:49:26) (Joey) Once self is lost the sub-conscious takes the place of the conscious which gives you cointact with the super-conscious which then becomes your subconscious.
(09:49:30) (Raleigh) well / he was many say
(09:49:40) (Bill) left within each of us
(09:49:45) (Joey) Christ then comes through you.
(09:49:48) (Raleigh) then as
(09:49:49) (Raleigh) hmmmm
(09:50:05) (Joey) You become a Channel of the Christ Consciousness.,
(09:50:08) (Raleigh) hard to answer that q
(09:50:13) (Q) Is the Christo's .. the Holy Spirit as well"
(09:50:32) (Jaguar_Rose) ego Joey loss of ego, surrender,
(09:50:37) (Jaguar_Rose) finding self
(09:50:41) (Q) cause he did say he was gonna fetch him when he took off.
(09:50:45) (Jaguar_Rose) surrender = findinf self
(09:50:53) (Q) or her.?
(09:51:06) (Joey) With the loss of self you begin to know Self.
(09:51:18) (Raleigh) hmmm / allow the spirit to lead you q / let go of things kinda /
(09:51:29) (Q) Cause.. if he already had the Spirit with him.. then why did he have to go get it?
(09:51:31) (Jaguar_Rose) wow Q
(09:51:39) (Raleigh) all i know is you got to be free as beetles sing
(09:51:43) (Bill) Jesus became the Christ once overcoming the earth in doing this he set the perfect patern for us the perfect example and left within each of us the Holy Spirit ( our consceince) to know right from wrong
(09:51:48) (Raleigh) a song about me
(09:51:50) (Jaguar_Rose) yeah Q
(09:51:59) (Raleigh) think of yourself as he did
(09:52:03) (Raleigh) god
(09:52:06) (Raleigh) as like
(09:52:09) (tenalias) thats the monkeys Ral lol
(09:52:15) (Jaguar_Rose) where did hesay that Q?
(09:52:25) (Raleigh) think it not wrong to be equal like q
(09:52:26) (tenalias) "I wanna be Free.........."
(09:52:28) (Q) It read.. that he was going to send for the Comforter.. ?
(09:52:29) (Raleigh) to god
(09:52:38) (Raleigh) we are in his image
(09:52:40) (Raleigh) soul
(09:52:53) (Raleigh) you have no soul / you are 1 q
(09:52:54) (Jaguar_Rose) jesus became te Christ
(09:52:56) (Jaguar_Rose) once
(09:53:00) (Joey) Spirit is the First Cause. Cayce 262-=123
(09:53:01) (Jaguar_Rose) overcoming the earth
(09:53:02) (Raleigh) yes t
(09:53:05) (Raleigh) it is
(09:53:07) (Jaguar_Rose) setting example
(09:53:09) (Raleigh) the song
(09:53:12) (Q) after he died and came back and partied with his homeys Rose.
(09:53:13) (Jaguar_Rose) interesting
(09:53:41) (Raleigh) then think it t / pay attn here pls
(09:53:55) (Raleigh) think it and you will become that t
(09:54:06) (Q) O.k.. I got that.. he became the Christ.. then who was the dove that fell on him when he was playing in the water with his cousin John the B.
(09:54:20) (Joey) Spirit is That Portion of the First Cause which finds expression in all that is everlasting in the consciousness of mind and matter.
(09:54:24) (Raleigh) did you get that ten
(09:54:30) (Jaguar_Rose) Oh, Okay, ;o) Q ty
(09:55:07) (Raleigh) mix al;l you know ten / nothing by chance / as you think you become / have / well believe this
(09:55:17) (Q) in other words Joey.. the spirit .. is the breath of life that God breathed into the dust later called Adam?
(09:55:22) (Raleigh) take script and cayce seriosly ten
(09:56:14) (tenalias) I do Ral as scripture is the abstract Cayce is the application
(09:56:20) (Q) So.. which was it that fell on Jesus.. at the Jordan.. and since he became the Christ.. who was the Comforter that he sent for?
(09:56:24) (Raleigh) then let the spirit guide ten
(09:56:26) (Joey) Spirit is that which impells you-the motivating foprce.
(09:56:34) (Jaguar_Rose) the dove...
(09:56:38) (Raleigh) as say let your hands off the wheel say
(09:56:59) (Q) yeah.. the dove Rose.. who was that?
(09:57:04) (Raleigh) as i am free i do this always
(09:57:09) (tenalias) cayce says being lighthearted is a good thing
(09:57:21) (Raleigh) i see miricles everyday ten
(09:57:26) (Jaguar_Rose) the moment of initiation then he knew the path would be hard, because the spiritual path is not mean to be easy
(09:57:49) (tenalias) no no Ral hands on the wheel lol
(09:57:49) (Joey) God as the Father, Creator, Maker; Son As the Way, the Mind, the Activity; the Holy Spirit as the motivating force. Cayce 2420-1
(09:57:53) (mark) what does it mean to be pure of heart?
(09:58:05) (Raleigh) innocent
(09:58:09) (Jaguar_Rose) not meant to be easy, for the path to learning how to sustain creation given the responisbilitu of having gods will through free choice in us
(09:58:15) (Q) so.. like.. could that dove probably serve as the pattern for Jesus.. and then he died.. and became the Christ.. or what?
(09:58:17) (Jaguar_Rose) rambling
(09:58:24) (Raleigh) get burned and pls continue to trust ec said
(09:58:31) (Bill) thank you all for the great dissusion hopefully i'll spend more time studying come winter to be able to better fully answer your questions , Love and Light to each of you !
(09:59:03) (Anonymous) thanks Bill
(10:02:15) (Jaguar_Rose) Ty Bill