Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 3, 2007 23:23:51 GMT -5
Revelations Study: 12-02-07
18:26:17 <Roz1> Chapter 19
18:27:37 <Roz1> 1. AND AFTER THESE~ THINGS, I HEARD A GREAT VOIOCE OF A GREAT MULTITUDE IN HEAVEN, SAYING, HALLELUIA! SALVATION AND POWER AND GLORY AND HONOR TO OUR GOD.
18:28:29 <Roz1> This direction established, the multiplicity "great multitude in heaven" of the self in one accord, says "halleluiah~ salvation and power and glory and honor to our God".
18:29:27 <Roz1> 2. FOR HIS JUDGEMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; FOR HE HAS CONDEMNED THE GREAT HARLOT WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE EARTH WITH HER ADULTERY, AND HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
18:32:24 <Roz1> Harlot means abandoned woman. Man in his quest for materiality abandons the intuitive, receptive facet of the self. This abandonment "corrupted true earth with her adultery", adulterating the rightful role of man. in the abandonment of the feminine aspect man views his creative urge as; the desire for material possessions, gratification of thee senses, diversions and amusement for his mind.
18:41:37 <Roz1> 3. AND A SECOND TIME, THEY SAID, HALLELUIA AND HER SMOKE ROSE UP FOR EVER AND EVER.
18:42:29 <Roz1> The "second time" is to fix the pattern of the transformation to assure that the energy will rise in self forever and ever
18:43:56 <Roz1> 4. AND THE FORTY AND TWENTY ELDERS AND THE FOUR FELL DOWN AND WORSHIPPED GOD WHO SAT ON THE THRONE SAYING, AMEN, ALLELUIA!
18:44:47 <Roz1> This is the obedience of the animal instincts; the ruling factors in our lives "the four and twenty elders" to the direction of God. This is a directive to be aware of the value of praise to our God. There great importance in thanksgiving. It is necessary actions in setting free the Power of God in us. The first praise Halleluiah! Indicates a completion of a cycle. The second Alleluia! denotes a communion fully with God.
18:45:52 <Roz1> 5. AND A VOICE CAME OUT FROM THE THRONE, SAYING PRAISE OUR GOD, ALL YOU HIS SERVANTS AND YOU WHO WORSHIP HIM, BOTH SMALL AND GREAT.
18:45:55 <Merri> how in the world to they get that translation from that paragraph?
18:46:13 <Roz1> got any other ideas Merri?
18:46:38 <Merri> nope
18:46:44 <Roz1> oh okie
18:47:25 <Merri> how does a halleluiah translate to a completion of a cycle?
18:48:50 <Roz1> previous chapters outlined the cycle and completion
18:49:53 <Roz1> it was a long hard stuggle
18:50:00 <Roz1> 6. AND I HEARD AS IT WERE THE VOICE OF A GRERAT MULTITUDE, LIKE THE VOICE OF MANY WATERS AND LIKE TH SOUND OF MIGHTY THUNDERINGS, SAYING, HALLELUIA! FOR OUR LORD GOD OMNIPOTENT REIGNS.
18:51:23 <Roz1> I'l go back and see if I can outline the progression
18:51:41 <Roz1> Our praise combines with all creation.
18:52:35 <Roz1> 7. LET US BE GLAD AND REJOICE AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM, FOR THE TIME OF THE MARRIAGE FEAST OF THE LAMB HAS COME AND BRIDE HAS MADE HERSELF READY.
18:52:39 <Merri> an expression (creative)?
18:52:54 <Roz1> yes
18:53:10 <Merri> ok
18:53:45 <Roz1> "Let us be glad and rejoice and give glory to him" for the integration of the man in earth form with the mind and spirit of His Creator "the time of the marriage feast of the Lamb" has come. The intuitive, receptive facet "his bride" has made herself ready.
18:54:45 <Cris7> Melding of mind and spirit
18:55:07 <Roz1> exackle
18:55:11 <Roz1> 8. AND IT WAS GIVEN TO HER THAT SHE SOULD BE ARRAYED IN FINE PURE LINEN, CLEAN AND WHITE; FOR FINE LINEN IS THE RIGHTOUSNESS OF SAINTS.
18:55:30 <Merri> man has recognized his feminine, receptive self?
18:56:56 <Roz1> yes his right brain function and his left brain function
18:57:08 <Roz1> The redirection and purification of the feminine aspect now will be one of moral purity "arrayed in fine pure linen, clean and white".
18:57:15 <Qrious> well... we are all supposed to be the bride of Christ , him being the bridegroom.. and the linen.. that is worn .. is your righteous acts... thats what you will where when you go to the marriage feast.. else you'd end up like the one that showed up naked and was cast out of the feast.. in one of Jesus's parables.
18:57:39 <Roz1> yup Qurious good point
18:58:33 <Qrious> for remember.. those who were called.. made excuses not to go.. then the invitation was given to any who would show.
18:59:26 <Roz1> we been missing yur wisdom Qurious
18:59:38 <Roz1> 9. AND HE SAID TO ME, WRITE,BLESSED ANE THOSE WHO ARE INVITED TO THE WEDDING FEAST OF THE LAMB. THEN HE SAID TO ME, THESE WORDS OF MINE ARE THE TRUE SAYINGS OF GOD.
18:59:52 <Qrious> besides.. we are the brides.. with our lampstands.. with oil in it.. awaiting our groom.
19:00:09 <Roz1> ARE THOSE
19:01:26 <Roz1> The invitation to the "wedding feast of the Lamb" is for all who will to come. Blessed are they who hear the call from God.
19:02:20 <Roz1> 10. AND I FELL AT HIS FEET TO WORSHIP HIM AND HE SAID TO ME, DO NOT DO THAT; I AM YOUR FELLOW SERVANT, AND ONE OF YOUR BRETHERN WHO HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS; WORSHIP GOD, FOR THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHESY.
19:02:50 <Roz1> I really love this one
19:03:38 <Roz1> I am thy fellow servant, worship God, for the testimony of Jesus Is this revelation that all men can follow His Way to the Father.
19:04:42 <Roz1> 11. AND I SAW HEAVEN OPENED, AND HEHOLD, I SAW A WHITE HORSE; AND HE WHO SAT UPON HIM WAS CALLED FAITHFUL AND TRUE, AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND MAKES WAR.
19:05:34 <Roz1> Faithful and truth guide and direct the creative element "A white horse; and he who sat upon him was called faithful and true". In right use ness He guides us in making decisions and confronting conflicts "in righteousness he judges and makes war".
19:06:31 <Roz1> 12. HIS EYES WERE LIKE A FLAME OF FIRE, AND ON HIS HEAD WERE MANY CROWNS; AND HE HAD NAMES WRITTEN THEREON, AND ONE OF THEE NAMES WRITTEN, NO MAN KNEW BUT HIMSELF.
19:07:27 <Roz1> There is the ability to see the truth "eyes like a flame of fire" and evidence of the total communion with God in many lives "on his head many crowns that had names written thereon." One of the names written, the identity of the Self with the Creator is knowing the Father only within oneself, "no man knew but himself".
19:07:56 <Roz1> any comments?
19:08:37 <Merri> you are the unwritten name?
19:08:48 <Cris7> We are all on the crown
19:09:02 <Cris7> written on the crown
19:09:12 <Roz1> each knows his name with God
19:09:29 <Roz1> we are his creation
19:09:40 <Qrious> this white horse rider is in contrast with the other white horse rider.. who had a Bow.. and went out to conquer.. the first white horse is the Anti-Christ.. this one is easily dicerned.
19:09:41 <Roz1> 13. AND HE WAS CLOTHED WITH A VESTURE DIPPED IN BLOOD; AND HE CALLED HIS NAME, THE WORD OF GOD
19:09:58 <Roz1> super Qurious
19:10:41 <Roz1> the blood is the life force
19:11:35 <Roz1> In earth experience "clothed with a vesture dipped in blood" he called himself an expression of God "He called his name the Word of God".
19:11:50 <Merri> where does the other white horse rider with the bow come in Q?
19:12:24 <Qrious> John... in the begining was the Word.. and the word was with God.. ...
19:12:53 <Roz1> earlier chapters Merri
19:13:03 <Roz1> 14. AND THE ARMIES, WHICH WERE IN HEAVEN, FOLLOWED HIM ON WHITE HORSES CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, PURE AND WHITE.
19:13:04 <Qrious> ealier.. with the pale horse rider and the death and hades.. and the red horse...
19:13:05 <Merri> ok
19:14:04 <Roz1> The hormonal secretions "armies which were in heaven" follow the direction of the Christ center, the pineal. They are in the attitude and state of moral purity "followed him on white horses clothed in fine linen, pure and white". The white horse is smybolic of the gonad, reproductive urge which follows the directive from the Christ center to reproduce Christness in us.
19:14:51 <Roz1> reproductive and regenerative
19:15:59 <Roz1> 15. AND OUT OF HIS MOUTH CAME A SHARP TWOEDGED SWORD, THAT WITH IT HE SHOULD SMITE THE NATIONS; AND HE WILL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON AND HE WILL TREAD THE WINEPRESS OFTHE FIERCENESS AND WRATH OF ALMIGHTY GOD.
19:16:59 <Roz1> The expression of Oneness cuts away "out of his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword" all ungodliness with great strength "he will rule with a rod of iron and he will tread out the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God". We will tread out all but communion with God.
19:18:57 <Roz1> lets stop there for tonite
19:19:00 <Qrious> the winepress of wrath.. once tread upon by Jesus.. what shall follow is the cup of wrath poured upon the earth.
19:19:18 <Roz1> well said
19:19:43 <Merri> to smite the nations?
19:19:58 <Roz1> Hey Qurios ya got to come baack
19:20:05 <Qrious> what must take place before that.. is the Harvest.. of clusters.. and grapes.. to separate the chaff from the wheat..
19:20:16 <Roz1> no we do the smiting
19:20:39 <Roz1> with in ourselves
19:20:44 <Qrious> vengence is mine.. says God.. so.. no smitin' for me.. lol
19:21:06 <Roz1> on to rid ourselves of self serving attitudes
19:21:27 <Qrious> well.. when put that way.. yah.. I agree.. gave meself for grief than believed possible.. lol
19:21:48 <Roz1> ya we gotta
19:22:23 <Roz1> learn not to react to oral dirreah
19:22:54 <Qrious> just consider the source.. I would say.
19:26:41 <Roz1> we will begin w. verse 16 next wk
19:38:54 <Roz1> Thanks for coming and being so great w/ comments
18:27:37 <Roz1> 1. AND AFTER THESE~ THINGS, I HEARD A GREAT VOIOCE OF A GREAT MULTITUDE IN HEAVEN, SAYING, HALLELUIA! SALVATION AND POWER AND GLORY AND HONOR TO OUR GOD.
18:28:29 <Roz1> This direction established, the multiplicity "great multitude in heaven" of the self in one accord, says "halleluiah~ salvation and power and glory and honor to our God".
18:29:27 <Roz1> 2. FOR HIS JUDGEMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; FOR HE HAS CONDEMNED THE GREAT HARLOT WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE EARTH WITH HER ADULTERY, AND HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS SERVANTS AT HER HAND.
18:32:24 <Roz1> Harlot means abandoned woman. Man in his quest for materiality abandons the intuitive, receptive facet of the self. This abandonment "corrupted true earth with her adultery", adulterating the rightful role of man. in the abandonment of the feminine aspect man views his creative urge as; the desire for material possessions, gratification of thee senses, diversions and amusement for his mind.
18:41:37 <Roz1> 3. AND A SECOND TIME, THEY SAID, HALLELUIA AND HER SMOKE ROSE UP FOR EVER AND EVER.
18:42:29 <Roz1> The "second time" is to fix the pattern of the transformation to assure that the energy will rise in self forever and ever
18:43:56 <Roz1> 4. AND THE FORTY AND TWENTY ELDERS AND THE FOUR FELL DOWN AND WORSHIPPED GOD WHO SAT ON THE THRONE SAYING, AMEN, ALLELUIA!
18:44:47 <Roz1> This is the obedience of the animal instincts; the ruling factors in our lives "the four and twenty elders" to the direction of God. This is a directive to be aware of the value of praise to our God. There great importance in thanksgiving. It is necessary actions in setting free the Power of God in us. The first praise Halleluiah! Indicates a completion of a cycle. The second Alleluia! denotes a communion fully with God.
18:45:52 <Roz1> 5. AND A VOICE CAME OUT FROM THE THRONE, SAYING PRAISE OUR GOD, ALL YOU HIS SERVANTS AND YOU WHO WORSHIP HIM, BOTH SMALL AND GREAT.
18:45:55 <Merri> how in the world to they get that translation from that paragraph?
18:46:13 <Roz1> got any other ideas Merri?
18:46:38 <Merri> nope
18:46:44 <Roz1> oh okie
18:47:25 <Merri> how does a halleluiah translate to a completion of a cycle?
18:48:50 <Roz1> previous chapters outlined the cycle and completion
18:49:53 <Roz1> it was a long hard stuggle
18:50:00 <Roz1> 6. AND I HEARD AS IT WERE THE VOICE OF A GRERAT MULTITUDE, LIKE THE VOICE OF MANY WATERS AND LIKE TH SOUND OF MIGHTY THUNDERINGS, SAYING, HALLELUIA! FOR OUR LORD GOD OMNIPOTENT REIGNS.
18:51:23 <Roz1> I'l go back and see if I can outline the progression
18:51:41 <Roz1> Our praise combines with all creation.
18:52:35 <Roz1> 7. LET US BE GLAD AND REJOICE AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM, FOR THE TIME OF THE MARRIAGE FEAST OF THE LAMB HAS COME AND BRIDE HAS MADE HERSELF READY.
18:52:39 <Merri> an expression (creative)?
18:52:54 <Roz1> yes
18:53:10 <Merri> ok
18:53:45 <Roz1> "Let us be glad and rejoice and give glory to him" for the integration of the man in earth form with the mind and spirit of His Creator "the time of the marriage feast of the Lamb" has come. The intuitive, receptive facet "his bride" has made herself ready.
18:54:45 <Cris7> Melding of mind and spirit
18:55:07 <Roz1> exackle
18:55:11 <Roz1> 8. AND IT WAS GIVEN TO HER THAT SHE SOULD BE ARRAYED IN FINE PURE LINEN, CLEAN AND WHITE; FOR FINE LINEN IS THE RIGHTOUSNESS OF SAINTS.
18:55:30 <Merri> man has recognized his feminine, receptive self?
18:56:56 <Roz1> yes his right brain function and his left brain function
18:57:08 <Roz1> The redirection and purification of the feminine aspect now will be one of moral purity "arrayed in fine pure linen, clean and white".
18:57:15 <Qrious> well... we are all supposed to be the bride of Christ , him being the bridegroom.. and the linen.. that is worn .. is your righteous acts... thats what you will where when you go to the marriage feast.. else you'd end up like the one that showed up naked and was cast out of the feast.. in one of Jesus's parables.
18:57:39 <Roz1> yup Qurious good point
18:58:33 <Qrious> for remember.. those who were called.. made excuses not to go.. then the invitation was given to any who would show.
18:59:26 <Roz1> we been missing yur wisdom Qurious
18:59:38 <Roz1> 9. AND HE SAID TO ME, WRITE,BLESSED ANE THOSE WHO ARE INVITED TO THE WEDDING FEAST OF THE LAMB. THEN HE SAID TO ME, THESE WORDS OF MINE ARE THE TRUE SAYINGS OF GOD.
18:59:52 <Qrious> besides.. we are the brides.. with our lampstands.. with oil in it.. awaiting our groom.
19:00:09 <Roz1> ARE THOSE
19:01:26 <Roz1> The invitation to the "wedding feast of the Lamb" is for all who will to come. Blessed are they who hear the call from God.
19:02:20 <Roz1> 10. AND I FELL AT HIS FEET TO WORSHIP HIM AND HE SAID TO ME, DO NOT DO THAT; I AM YOUR FELLOW SERVANT, AND ONE OF YOUR BRETHERN WHO HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS; WORSHIP GOD, FOR THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHESY.
19:02:50 <Roz1> I really love this one
19:03:38 <Roz1> I am thy fellow servant, worship God, for the testimony of Jesus Is this revelation that all men can follow His Way to the Father.
19:04:42 <Roz1> 11. AND I SAW HEAVEN OPENED, AND HEHOLD, I SAW A WHITE HORSE; AND HE WHO SAT UPON HIM WAS CALLED FAITHFUL AND TRUE, AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND MAKES WAR.
19:05:34 <Roz1> Faithful and truth guide and direct the creative element "A white horse; and he who sat upon him was called faithful and true". In right use ness He guides us in making decisions and confronting conflicts "in righteousness he judges and makes war".
19:06:31 <Roz1> 12. HIS EYES WERE LIKE A FLAME OF FIRE, AND ON HIS HEAD WERE MANY CROWNS; AND HE HAD NAMES WRITTEN THEREON, AND ONE OF THEE NAMES WRITTEN, NO MAN KNEW BUT HIMSELF.
19:07:27 <Roz1> There is the ability to see the truth "eyes like a flame of fire" and evidence of the total communion with God in many lives "on his head many crowns that had names written thereon." One of the names written, the identity of the Self with the Creator is knowing the Father only within oneself, "no man knew but himself".
19:07:56 <Roz1> any comments?
19:08:37 <Merri> you are the unwritten name?
19:08:48 <Cris7> We are all on the crown
19:09:02 <Cris7> written on the crown
19:09:12 <Roz1> each knows his name with God
19:09:29 <Roz1> we are his creation
19:09:40 <Qrious> this white horse rider is in contrast with the other white horse rider.. who had a Bow.. and went out to conquer.. the first white horse is the Anti-Christ.. this one is easily dicerned.
19:09:41 <Roz1> 13. AND HE WAS CLOTHED WITH A VESTURE DIPPED IN BLOOD; AND HE CALLED HIS NAME, THE WORD OF GOD
19:09:58 <Roz1> super Qurious
19:10:41 <Roz1> the blood is the life force
19:11:35 <Roz1> In earth experience "clothed with a vesture dipped in blood" he called himself an expression of God "He called his name the Word of God".
19:11:50 <Merri> where does the other white horse rider with the bow come in Q?
19:12:24 <Qrious> John... in the begining was the Word.. and the word was with God.. ...
19:12:53 <Roz1> earlier chapters Merri
19:13:03 <Roz1> 14. AND THE ARMIES, WHICH WERE IN HEAVEN, FOLLOWED HIM ON WHITE HORSES CLOTHED IN FINE LINEN, PURE AND WHITE.
19:13:04 <Qrious> ealier.. with the pale horse rider and the death and hades.. and the red horse...
19:13:05 <Merri> ok
19:14:04 <Roz1> The hormonal secretions "armies which were in heaven" follow the direction of the Christ center, the pineal. They are in the attitude and state of moral purity "followed him on white horses clothed in fine linen, pure and white". The white horse is smybolic of the gonad, reproductive urge which follows the directive from the Christ center to reproduce Christness in us.
19:14:51 <Roz1> reproductive and regenerative
19:15:59 <Roz1> 15. AND OUT OF HIS MOUTH CAME A SHARP TWOEDGED SWORD, THAT WITH IT HE SHOULD SMITE THE NATIONS; AND HE WILL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON AND HE WILL TREAD THE WINEPRESS OFTHE FIERCENESS AND WRATH OF ALMIGHTY GOD.
19:16:59 <Roz1> The expression of Oneness cuts away "out of his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword" all ungodliness with great strength "he will rule with a rod of iron and he will tread out the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God". We will tread out all but communion with God.
19:18:57 <Roz1> lets stop there for tonite
19:19:00 <Qrious> the winepress of wrath.. once tread upon by Jesus.. what shall follow is the cup of wrath poured upon the earth.
19:19:18 <Roz1> well said
19:19:43 <Merri> to smite the nations?
19:19:58 <Roz1> Hey Qurios ya got to come baack
19:20:05 <Qrious> what must take place before that.. is the Harvest.. of clusters.. and grapes.. to separate the chaff from the wheat..
19:20:16 <Roz1> no we do the smiting
19:20:39 <Roz1> with in ourselves
19:20:44 <Qrious> vengence is mine.. says God.. so.. no smitin' for me.. lol
19:21:06 <Roz1> on to rid ourselves of self serving attitudes
19:21:27 <Qrious> well.. when put that way.. yah.. I agree.. gave meself for grief than believed possible.. lol
19:21:48 <Roz1> ya we gotta
19:22:23 <Roz1> learn not to react to oral dirreah
19:22:54 <Qrious> just consider the source.. I would say.
19:26:41 <Roz1> we will begin w. verse 16 next wk
19:38:54 <Roz1> Thanks for coming and being so great w/ comments
