Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 24, 2006 22:59:59 GMT -5
The Birth Of Jesus
(09:36:49) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:36:55) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:37:13) (Anonymous) Amen
(09:37:22) (ron) amen
(09:38:21) (Host-Roz) we'll continue the the narratiive where we left off last week
(09:39:49) (Host-Roz) A girl came with a chair, which customarily used to help women birth. She stopped. When they saw her they were amazed, and Joseph said to her, “Child, where are you going that chair?” The girl responded, mistress sent me to this place be-youth came to her with great and said, ‘Come quickly to help an unusual birth; a girl will give for the first time.’
(09:40:18) (Mandy) Birth of Jesus..The Beloved
(09:40:32) (Host-Roz) a chair makes the birthing easier
(09:41:29) (Host-Roz) When she heard my mistress sent me on before her; she herself is following.” looked back and saw her coming he went to meet her and they greet each other
(09:42:15) (Mandy) The Atman is here...within Us All to hear the stories
(09:42:27) (Host-Roz) The midwife said to Joseph’ Sir, where are you going?” He “I seek a Hebrew midwife.”
(09:43:15) (Mandy) looking back in Love..is a common glory
(09:43:16) (Host-Roz) She said to him, “Are you from Israel Joseph said, “I am from Israel.” ~man said to him, “Who is the woman who will give birth in this Joseph replied, “Mary, who was betrothed to me, who was raised in the temple.”
(09:44:05) (Host-Roz) The midwife said to She is not your wife?” And Joseph She was promised to me, but was pregnant by the Holy Spirit.” Then said to him, “What you say, is it Joseph said to her, “Come” and entered the cave.
(09:44:07) (Richard) This is interesting Roz, what are you reading from?
(09:44:30) (Host-Roz) the account by the Essenes
(09:44:46) (Richard) Is this the Dead Sea Scrolls?
(09:45:08) (Anonymous) entered the cave?
(09:45:22) (Host-Roz) yes it is Richard
(09:45:32) (Richard) I see...
(09:45:43) (Host-Roz) it was a cave that Jesus wss born in
(09:45:49) (Host-Roz) Joseph said to his wife, “Come, see. Mary then wished to enter to the interior of the cave, but she was afraid, because a great light shone resplendent in the cave, the light did not wane in the day nor the night as long as Mary stayed said,
(09:46:21) (Anonymous) what happened to the stable?
(09:46:58) (Richard) Many stables where cut inside of hills.
(09:47:31) (Host-Roz) that is very true Richard
(09:47:38) (Host-Roz) Behold, I have brought to you a midwife, Zachel, who stands outside in front of the cave, who because of the brightness not only dares enter the cave, but even cannot.” when she heard this, Mary smiled. Joseph said to her, “Do not smile, but take care; she comes to examine you in case you need medicine.”
(09:47:44) (Richard) Conservation of space in a hilly somewhat rocky terran.
(09:48:12) (Host-Roz) many caves in that area
(09:49:19) (Host-Roz) He ordered the midwife to enter to Mary and she stood before her. For hours Mary permitted herself to be watched, then the midwife said with a loud voice and said,
(09:49:35) (Mandy) Sometimes Light comes to Shine for Us in the least expected Moments
(09:50:17) (Host-Roz) “Lord, Great God, have mercy, because never has this been heard, nor seen, nor even dreamed of, until now, that the breasts should be full of milk and a male child, after birth, should make his mother known to be a virgin.
(09:50:31) (Mandy) some are very frightened by the sudden Shift in Awareness
(09:50:41) (Mandy) or should I say All
(09:51:19) (Host-Roz) There was no offering of blood in the birth, no pain occurred in the parturition. A virgin conceived, a virgin has given birth and after she gave birth, she remained a virgin.” The midwife is asked to relate what she had seen to Simeon, Joseph’s son. See Matt. 13:55; Mark 6:3. The following is, therefore, a flashback.
(09:52:14) (Host-Roz) “When I entered to the maiden, I found her face looking upward; she was inclined toward Heaven and speaking to herself. I truly believe that she prayed to and blessed the Most High.
(09:53:13) (Host-Roz) When I had come to her, I said to her, ‘Daughter, tell me, do you not feel some pain, or is not some part of your body gripped with pain?’ She, however, as if she heard nothing, remained immobile like solid rock, intent on Heaven.” In that hour, everything ceased.
(09:53:21) (Mandy) I just looked at Saint Bernadette..and she is still not in body corrupt..for the cells of her body are in the Light
(09:53:47) (Host-Roz) when the baby was born he was composed of only LIGHT
(09:54:32) (Host-Roz) only when he drew the breath of the the earth did he become flesh
(09:55:31) (Host-Roz) There was total silence and fear. For even the winds stopped, they made no breeze; there was no motion of tree leaves; no sound of water was heard. The streams did not flow; there was no motion of the sea.
(09:55:33) (Mandy) that is coming back from Salvikalpa Samadhi..No Breath, but Living
(09:56:25) (Mandy) the Winds are the 4 posts that keep US here, the Airs of Prana
(09:56:27) (Host-Roz) Come to me, all you who are heavy laden, and I will you rest.9 Take my yoke (Yoga, meaning “way”) upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and meek in my heart, and you will find rest for your souls, 10.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light (not meaning the opposite of heavy) .Matt:11:29-30
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz) Jesus came into this world as LIGHT. He only became a flesh body when He breathed in the breath of the earth. We are to become Light as bearers of the true Light
(09:59:13) (Host-Roz) any questions or comments
(09:59:22) (Cris) Thanks Roz
(09:59:45) (Mandy) wonderful Roz...I loved it
(10:00:18) (Host-Roz) when the baby was born he was composed of only LIGHT
(10:00:28) (Richard) Yes, thank you. Very interesting points made and seemingly eye witnessed by the Essens.
(10:00:48) (Host-Roz) only when he drew the breath of the the earth did he become flesh
(10:01:19) (Cris) Truely a light being
(10:01:48) (Host-Roz) Come to me, all you who are heavy laden, and I will you rest.9 Take my yoke (Yoga, meaning “way”) upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and meek in my heart, and you will find rest for your souls, 10.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light (not meaning the opposite of heavy) .Matt:11:29-30
(10:01:53) (Atom) we are All light beings ??
(10:02:05) (Richard) But other witnesses, from the Cayce perspective for instance saw a Girl heavy and ready to give birth to what had to be a physical mass... that does not insist that Jesus was not the light though... some heard thunder others heard the voice of God.
(10:02:31) (Host-Roz) yes our roles are to be bearers of the LIGHT
(10:04:10) (ron) LIght, as in this example, indicates a highly advanced soul...and it was Light being the first creation
(10:04:25) (Mandy) All are Light Beings..just have to get rid of the Dross..covering your Soul that wants to Shine
(10:04:49) (Richard) From the perspective of a Course in Miracles we are already the light that is living a illusion created by our own egos.
(10:05:02) (Mandy) What are you willing to do to get rid of the Dross?
(10:05:08) (Host-Roz) yes the First Act of the Creator
(10:05:21) (ron) the veil of personality conceals the light
(10:05:33) (Mandy) The Ego Yes Ron
(10:06:12) (Host-Roz) and separated the Light from the darkness and the darkness can not over come it
(10:06:13) (Mandy) How would you like your Ego wiped out? that would do it
(10:06:28) (Host-Roz) no we transform the ego
(10:06:30) (Mandy) to drastic for most..so little at a time
(10:06:37) (Richard) Forgiveness Mandy...
(10:06:49) (ron) but the ego can say, I Think, therefore I Exist
(10:07:05) (Cris) You can tame your ego with training and affirmations
(10:07:13) (Host-Roz) we utulize the ego it is necessary
(10:07:22) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:07:41) (Mandy) the Ego without a participant is very weird..is is all an act..but commune with Spirit is...
(10:07:41) (ron) its the inflated ego that has to be dealt with, not its destruction
(10:07:56) (Host-Roz) so right Ron
(10:08:11) (Mandy) only one who does not know reacts
(10:08:18) (Host-Roz) we need an identification that is the ego
(10:08:29) (Richard) Forgive that ye be forgivin... this would eliminate duelality and provide the Atonement.
(10:08:43) (ron) I Think, therefore I Am
(10:08:44) (Mandy) The Ego makes US enjoy this earth participation
(10:08:55) (Mandy) without it..you want to Cry
(10:09:03) (Host-Roz) God created duality when he separated the Light from the Darkness
(10:09:28) (ron) or ignorance from wisdom
(10:09:37) (Host-Roz) how else could we know Love
(10:09:41) (Mandy) you are an Act..because all things have been blown out..there is No One Home
(10:09:47) (Host-Roz) exackle Ron
(10:09:55) (Mandy) that is the Way..sorry to say
(10:10:54) (ron) thank you roz...i liked this little Christmas Story
(10:10:58) (Richard) God could not have created duality... that would mean perfection created imperfection and that is the opposite of the reality... imperfection must put on perfection.
(10:11:26) (Host-Roz) where is there that God is not Richard?
(10:11:29) (Mandy) I pray for all Souls and Animals and Rocks and Minerals in God's Kingdom to be granted Enlightenment Now
(10:11:39) (ron) then why is humanity evolving?
(10:12:13) (Richard) Growing would be a better term don't you think ron... makes more since.
(10:12:21) (ron) just terms
(10:12:25) (ron) same thing
(10:12:33) (Host-Roz) yup
(10:12:45) (Mandy) Richard..do you speak of duality? tell me more
(10:12:55) (Host-Roz) everything is for our learning
(10:13:36) (Mandy) Duality is the Polar Opposites
(10:14:02) (Richard) And therefor it would be impossible for God to create duality...
(10:14:14) (Mandy) male female..it is not truly US..it is US down in Time
(10:14:48) (Host-Roz) then how did He separate the Light from the Darkness
(10:14:55) (ron) perhaps, the unmanifest and manifest, or creation
(10:15:01) (Mandy) God is Above not in the Ploar opposties...we are in Time seeking the other... but it is God we seek
(10:15:31) (Host-Roz) order from Chaos
(10:15:43) (Richard) I beginning to understand the atonement through the point that we are all still in heavan and are haveing an ellusory experience...
(10:16:31) (Mandy) God is the One with Us..not here in this World... then you Join
(10:17:04) (Richard) The purpose being worked out here is to understand that we are not seperated from God...
(10:17:24) (Richard) We simply think we are.
(10:17:26) (Mandy) it is in the Subtle worlds..and ultimatly in the Causual World that you find Union once again
(10:17:30) (Cris) We have to work toward that unity of reuniting ourselves
(10:17:37) (Mandy) Never
(10:17:58) (ron) maya, an eastern term for illusion...by definition means "transitory"
(10:18:00) (Richard) And the way is to forgive, forgive, forgi ve.... 7 times seventy.
(10:18:07) (Mandy) Knowledge is One very important Key
(10:18:27) (Mandy) or how would you know the Signs
(10:18:45) (Cris) Forgiveness is one of the most important aspects
(10:18:51) (Mandy) It is knowing what is what..
(10:18:55) (Cris) So is love
(10:18:56) (Richard) I agree Mandy as it is knowledge that is loosening the cords of ego.
(10:18:59) (Host-Roz) in all things get wisdom and discernment
(10:19:39) (ron) thus, don't become attached to tempory things
(10:19:40) (Mandy) They say the most Ugly and Mean persons wanting to know God do it...for there is Nothing Stopping them
(10:19:42) (Richard) The most important aspect Cris... The only reason any one of us has to come back here is to make up for something that we failed to forgive.
(10:20:08) (Mandy) The Goal is I want to Know!
(10:20:31) (Cris) I feel that love and forgivenss go hand in hand
(10:20:41) (Cris) You can't g
(10:20:42) (Mandy) Where Are You..Who am I?
(10:20:47) (ron) to forgive, is to love
(10:20:48) (Cris) forgive without love
(10:20:57) (ron) to be forgiven, is to love
(10:21:00) (Richard) Fine as long as you are sincerly wanting to apply what we then know Mandy.
(10:21:06) (Atom) forgiveness of ones selfs is a top of list
(10:21:40) (Atom) ?
(10:21:49) (Richard) I agree Cris. But when we do not love it is even more important to forgive.
(10:21:59) (Host-Roz) so right Atom
(10:22:09) (Mandy) to forgive because you see there folly that you once had..and still do, but now without an Ego
(10:22:39) (Host-Roz) or we come back to get it right this time
(10:22:45) (ron) self-exaltation?
(10:23:10) (Richard) Even more Mandy to forgive because it is only an illusion and there was nothing to forgi ve in the first place.
(10:23:28) (Mandy) Richard..see that Nothing matters anyway...raise your Shoulder in Love to Another In Love with you I Am
(10:23:53) (Mandy) are you here to Stay?
(10:24:22) (Lone_Eagle) Good question
(10:24:32) (Mandy) In Love with another in Spirit is with ourselves
(10:25:05) (Mandy) Lone Eagle..My God..it has been AGES
(10:25:12) (Richard) I can see no fault in that Mandy.
(10:25:29) (Lone_Eagle) Yeah, I don't know how long.
(10:25:48) (Mandy) Richard is of the Night in Glorious Union..and more to come
(10:26:15) (Mandy) tell Lone Eagle how it goes
(10:26:36) (Lone_Eagle) Do tell
(10:26:39) (Atom) and me
(10:27:03) (Atom) please
(10:27:53) (Richard) I am he as you are he and you are me and we are all together if I may borrow from a well known poet and musician.
(10:28:16) (Mandy) sure... I love it tonight
(10:28:25) (ron) well known musician...hmm...something for me to think about :)
(10:29:13) (Lone_Eagle) I am the walrus-but I'd rather be a dolphin
(10:29:43) (Richard) I am the Eggman.
(10:29:58) (Lone_Eagle) koo koo kee choo
(10:30:11) (Atom) hey that's my line
(10:30:31) (Mandy) be the walrus...the heavier the more Gravity..the more the Soul can come down Through
(10:31:51) (Mandy) Gravity as a Black Hole..do you know how deeply you would want to Hug someone with a Black Hole Gravity? It is Wonderous
(10:33:04) (Mandy) gravity hugs are to You
(10:33:24) (Lone_Eagle) A black hole gravity...hmmm
(10:33:47) (Mandy) may we all be aware of our Souls..the Blue Chit Field around Us All
(10:33:56) (Mandy) lol
(10:33:57) (ron) or singularity
(10:34:11) (Lone_Eagle) I guess it'w that gravity that brings me here around Christmas
(10:34:12) (Mandy) I can be me too..and whatever now..lol
(10:34:34) (Mandy) love seeing you again
(10:34:43) (Richard) A true story presented on Educational TV... There was a child born back in the 90's two weeks prematurely... He had two holes in his heart and the doctors gave him only 24 hours to live.... Much to the doctors surprise after 48 hours the child was still alive and gaining wait,.. and begain to breath on his own. The Doctors and nurses where interviewed and called it a miracle
(10:34:47) (Lone_Eagle) Same here
(10:35:44) (Lone_Eagle) Any idea how the child has fared?
(10:36:14) (Mandy) Eagle how has your Kundalini fared?
(10:36:43) (Mandy) did you not know you are on Fire?
(10:37:12) (Mandy) that is the Thing..clearing
(10:37:14) (Lone_Eagle) Not a clue. Just been surviving
(10:37:24) (Richard) When the child was two years old he begain to draw pictures of Egghead shaped individuals he called the Eggmen... His pictures where so good they now occupy space at the Smithsonean.... He told the story that when he was in the incubator eggmen came to him and took him aboard there craft where they took his heart and healed it...
(10:37:28) (Mandy) that is the Thing
(10:38:21) (Lone_Eagle) The fire has yet to come. Maybe soon.
(10:38:26) (Richard) Even holding it up in front of him..;. He also told that they showed him thier children who were in glass like jars.
(10:38:35) (Mandy) The Eggman is around everyone..what is it Richard
(10:39:00) (Richard) The wholly spirit Mandy would be my guess.
(10:39:44) (Mandy) their is the psychic Eye of Wisdom.and then their is the Sahasra of Mind into the Incorportable
(10:39:56) (Mandy) there is difference
(10:39:58) (Richard) This is a true story... wish I could remember the childs name but I understand that is drawings are in the Smithsonian to this day.
(10:40:48) (Mandy) there is No Mind in the Intent as to sovern response of the Individual
(10:41:03) (Lone_Eagle) Nice story Richard. Wish we could get an update.
(10:41:12) (Richard) When I saw this story I took a greater interest in the Beatles song I am a Walrus.
(10:41:53) (Mandy) No Mind is the Intent and Love..sorry if I do not do it right for now
(10:42:00) (Lone_Eagle) Find anything else in the song interesting?
(10:43:09) (Richard) The whole songs is a turning point in the lives of the Beatles... they became very eastern an contributed much to bringing the easter thought to us.
(10:43:52) (Mandy) I am a Walrus means IN Yoga..Gravity..Heavy comes the Sound.and then enters the Spirit
(10:44:43) (Mandy) they did not it seems..lol
(10:44:44) (Richard) And the eggmen Mandy?
(10:44:58) (Mandy) I Am
(10:45:08) (Mandy) Are You?
(10:45:37) (Mandy) how heavy are you Mister
(10:45:51) (Lone_Eagle) I think. Therefor I am. I think.
(10:46:03) (Richard) The whole song is a representation of a period of meditation and awareness.
(10:46:16) (Mandy) that is the Sound that premeated and All can Hear
(10:47:29) (Mandy) you think Lone because you have never been Told Not To Think ..Meditate On...Who Am I?
(10:48:08) (Mandy) You are already there Lone Eagle..Meditate in Silence..God God God
(10:49:06) (Lone_Eagle) Candy Mandy
(10:49:20) (Mandy) Yes I know now tonight..God is everywhere and I see In Us all
(10:49:56) (Mandy) not the way you want Lone..delve those energies
(10:50:27) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All and thanks for coming
(10:51:11) (Lone_Eagle) Bye Roz and Merry Christmas
(09:36:55) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:37:13) (Anonymous) Amen
(09:37:22) (ron) amen
(09:38:21) (Host-Roz) we'll continue the the narratiive where we left off last week
(09:39:49) (Host-Roz) A girl came with a chair, which customarily used to help women birth. She stopped. When they saw her they were amazed, and Joseph said to her, “Child, where are you going that chair?” The girl responded, mistress sent me to this place be-youth came to her with great and said, ‘Come quickly to help an unusual birth; a girl will give for the first time.’
(09:40:18) (Mandy) Birth of Jesus..The Beloved
(09:40:32) (Host-Roz) a chair makes the birthing easier
(09:41:29) (Host-Roz) When she heard my mistress sent me on before her; she herself is following.” looked back and saw her coming he went to meet her and they greet each other
(09:42:15) (Mandy) The Atman is here...within Us All to hear the stories
(09:42:27) (Host-Roz) The midwife said to Joseph’ Sir, where are you going?” He “I seek a Hebrew midwife.”
(09:43:15) (Mandy) looking back in Love..is a common glory
(09:43:16) (Host-Roz) She said to him, “Are you from Israel Joseph said, “I am from Israel.” ~man said to him, “Who is the woman who will give birth in this Joseph replied, “Mary, who was betrothed to me, who was raised in the temple.”
(09:44:05) (Host-Roz) The midwife said to She is not your wife?” And Joseph She was promised to me, but was pregnant by the Holy Spirit.” Then said to him, “What you say, is it Joseph said to her, “Come” and entered the cave.
(09:44:07) (Richard) This is interesting Roz, what are you reading from?
(09:44:30) (Host-Roz) the account by the Essenes
(09:44:46) (Richard) Is this the Dead Sea Scrolls?
(09:45:08) (Anonymous) entered the cave?
(09:45:22) (Host-Roz) yes it is Richard
(09:45:32) (Richard) I see...
(09:45:43) (Host-Roz) it was a cave that Jesus wss born in
(09:45:49) (Host-Roz) Joseph said to his wife, “Come, see. Mary then wished to enter to the interior of the cave, but she was afraid, because a great light shone resplendent in the cave, the light did not wane in the day nor the night as long as Mary stayed said,
(09:46:21) (Anonymous) what happened to the stable?
(09:46:58) (Richard) Many stables where cut inside of hills.
(09:47:31) (Host-Roz) that is very true Richard
(09:47:38) (Host-Roz) Behold, I have brought to you a midwife, Zachel, who stands outside in front of the cave, who because of the brightness not only dares enter the cave, but even cannot.” when she heard this, Mary smiled. Joseph said to her, “Do not smile, but take care; she comes to examine you in case you need medicine.”
(09:47:44) (Richard) Conservation of space in a hilly somewhat rocky terran.
(09:48:12) (Host-Roz) many caves in that area
(09:49:19) (Host-Roz) He ordered the midwife to enter to Mary and she stood before her. For hours Mary permitted herself to be watched, then the midwife said with a loud voice and said,
(09:49:35) (Mandy) Sometimes Light comes to Shine for Us in the least expected Moments
(09:50:17) (Host-Roz) “Lord, Great God, have mercy, because never has this been heard, nor seen, nor even dreamed of, until now, that the breasts should be full of milk and a male child, after birth, should make his mother known to be a virgin.
(09:50:31) (Mandy) some are very frightened by the sudden Shift in Awareness
(09:50:41) (Mandy) or should I say All
(09:51:19) (Host-Roz) There was no offering of blood in the birth, no pain occurred in the parturition. A virgin conceived, a virgin has given birth and after she gave birth, she remained a virgin.” The midwife is asked to relate what she had seen to Simeon, Joseph’s son. See Matt. 13:55; Mark 6:3. The following is, therefore, a flashback.
(09:52:14) (Host-Roz) “When I entered to the maiden, I found her face looking upward; she was inclined toward Heaven and speaking to herself. I truly believe that she prayed to and blessed the Most High.
(09:53:13) (Host-Roz) When I had come to her, I said to her, ‘Daughter, tell me, do you not feel some pain, or is not some part of your body gripped with pain?’ She, however, as if she heard nothing, remained immobile like solid rock, intent on Heaven.” In that hour, everything ceased.
(09:53:21) (Mandy) I just looked at Saint Bernadette..and she is still not in body corrupt..for the cells of her body are in the Light
(09:53:47) (Host-Roz) when the baby was born he was composed of only LIGHT
(09:54:32) (Host-Roz) only when he drew the breath of the the earth did he become flesh
(09:55:31) (Host-Roz) There was total silence and fear. For even the winds stopped, they made no breeze; there was no motion of tree leaves; no sound of water was heard. The streams did not flow; there was no motion of the sea.
(09:55:33) (Mandy) that is coming back from Salvikalpa Samadhi..No Breath, but Living
(09:56:25) (Mandy) the Winds are the 4 posts that keep US here, the Airs of Prana
(09:56:27) (Host-Roz) Come to me, all you who are heavy laden, and I will you rest.9 Take my yoke (Yoga, meaning “way”) upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and meek in my heart, and you will find rest for your souls, 10.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light (not meaning the opposite of heavy) .Matt:11:29-30
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz) Jesus came into this world as LIGHT. He only became a flesh body when He breathed in the breath of the earth. We are to become Light as bearers of the true Light
(09:59:13) (Host-Roz) any questions or comments
(09:59:22) (Cris) Thanks Roz
(09:59:45) (Mandy) wonderful Roz...I loved it
(10:00:18) (Host-Roz) when the baby was born he was composed of only LIGHT
(10:00:28) (Richard) Yes, thank you. Very interesting points made and seemingly eye witnessed by the Essens.
(10:00:48) (Host-Roz) only when he drew the breath of the the earth did he become flesh
(10:01:19) (Cris) Truely a light being
(10:01:48) (Host-Roz) Come to me, all you who are heavy laden, and I will you rest.9 Take my yoke (Yoga, meaning “way”) upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and meek in my heart, and you will find rest for your souls, 10.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light (not meaning the opposite of heavy) .Matt:11:29-30
(10:01:53) (Atom) we are All light beings ??
(10:02:05) (Richard) But other witnesses, from the Cayce perspective for instance saw a Girl heavy and ready to give birth to what had to be a physical mass... that does not insist that Jesus was not the light though... some heard thunder others heard the voice of God.
(10:02:31) (Host-Roz) yes our roles are to be bearers of the LIGHT
(10:04:10) (ron) LIght, as in this example, indicates a highly advanced soul...and it was Light being the first creation
(10:04:25) (Mandy) All are Light Beings..just have to get rid of the Dross..covering your Soul that wants to Shine
(10:04:49) (Richard) From the perspective of a Course in Miracles we are already the light that is living a illusion created by our own egos.
(10:05:02) (Mandy) What are you willing to do to get rid of the Dross?
(10:05:08) (Host-Roz) yes the First Act of the Creator
(10:05:21) (ron) the veil of personality conceals the light
(10:05:33) (Mandy) The Ego Yes Ron
(10:06:12) (Host-Roz) and separated the Light from the darkness and the darkness can not over come it
(10:06:13) (Mandy) How would you like your Ego wiped out? that would do it
(10:06:28) (Host-Roz) no we transform the ego
(10:06:30) (Mandy) to drastic for most..so little at a time
(10:06:37) (Richard) Forgiveness Mandy...
(10:06:49) (ron) but the ego can say, I Think, therefore I Exist
(10:07:05) (Cris) You can tame your ego with training and affirmations
(10:07:13) (Host-Roz) we utulize the ego it is necessary
(10:07:22) (Host-Roz) exackle Cris
(10:07:41) (Mandy) the Ego without a participant is very weird..is is all an act..but commune with Spirit is...
(10:07:41) (ron) its the inflated ego that has to be dealt with, not its destruction
(10:07:56) (Host-Roz) so right Ron
(10:08:11) (Mandy) only one who does not know reacts
(10:08:18) (Host-Roz) we need an identification that is the ego
(10:08:29) (Richard) Forgive that ye be forgivin... this would eliminate duelality and provide the Atonement.
(10:08:43) (ron) I Think, therefore I Am
(10:08:44) (Mandy) The Ego makes US enjoy this earth participation
(10:08:55) (Mandy) without it..you want to Cry
(10:09:03) (Host-Roz) God created duality when he separated the Light from the Darkness
(10:09:28) (ron) or ignorance from wisdom
(10:09:37) (Host-Roz) how else could we know Love
(10:09:41) (Mandy) you are an Act..because all things have been blown out..there is No One Home
(10:09:47) (Host-Roz) exackle Ron
(10:09:55) (Mandy) that is the Way..sorry to say
(10:10:54) (ron) thank you roz...i liked this little Christmas Story
(10:10:58) (Richard) God could not have created duality... that would mean perfection created imperfection and that is the opposite of the reality... imperfection must put on perfection.
(10:11:26) (Host-Roz) where is there that God is not Richard?
(10:11:29) (Mandy) I pray for all Souls and Animals and Rocks and Minerals in God's Kingdom to be granted Enlightenment Now
(10:11:39) (ron) then why is humanity evolving?
(10:12:13) (Richard) Growing would be a better term don't you think ron... makes more since.
(10:12:21) (ron) just terms
(10:12:25) (ron) same thing
(10:12:33) (Host-Roz) yup
(10:12:45) (Mandy) Richard..do you speak of duality? tell me more
(10:12:55) (Host-Roz) everything is for our learning
(10:13:36) (Mandy) Duality is the Polar Opposites
(10:14:02) (Richard) And therefor it would be impossible for God to create duality...
(10:14:14) (Mandy) male female..it is not truly US..it is US down in Time
(10:14:48) (Host-Roz) then how did He separate the Light from the Darkness
(10:14:55) (ron) perhaps, the unmanifest and manifest, or creation
(10:15:01) (Mandy) God is Above not in the Ploar opposties...we are in Time seeking the other... but it is God we seek
(10:15:31) (Host-Roz) order from Chaos
(10:15:43) (Richard) I beginning to understand the atonement through the point that we are all still in heavan and are haveing an ellusory experience...
(10:16:31) (Mandy) God is the One with Us..not here in this World... then you Join
(10:17:04) (Richard) The purpose being worked out here is to understand that we are not seperated from God...
(10:17:24) (Richard) We simply think we are.
(10:17:26) (Mandy) it is in the Subtle worlds..and ultimatly in the Causual World that you find Union once again
(10:17:30) (Cris) We have to work toward that unity of reuniting ourselves
(10:17:37) (Mandy) Never
(10:17:58) (ron) maya, an eastern term for illusion...by definition means "transitory"
(10:18:00) (Richard) And the way is to forgive, forgive, forgi ve.... 7 times seventy.
(10:18:07) (Mandy) Knowledge is One very important Key
(10:18:27) (Mandy) or how would you know the Signs
(10:18:45) (Cris) Forgiveness is one of the most important aspects
(10:18:51) (Mandy) It is knowing what is what..
(10:18:55) (Cris) So is love
(10:18:56) (Richard) I agree Mandy as it is knowledge that is loosening the cords of ego.
(10:18:59) (Host-Roz) in all things get wisdom and discernment
(10:19:39) (ron) thus, don't become attached to tempory things
(10:19:40) (Mandy) They say the most Ugly and Mean persons wanting to know God do it...for there is Nothing Stopping them
(10:19:42) (Richard) The most important aspect Cris... The only reason any one of us has to come back here is to make up for something that we failed to forgive.
(10:20:08) (Mandy) The Goal is I want to Know!
(10:20:31) (Cris) I feel that love and forgivenss go hand in hand
(10:20:41) (Cris) You can't g
(10:20:42) (Mandy) Where Are You..Who am I?
(10:20:47) (ron) to forgive, is to love
(10:20:48) (Cris) forgive without love
(10:20:57) (ron) to be forgiven, is to love
(10:21:00) (Richard) Fine as long as you are sincerly wanting to apply what we then know Mandy.
(10:21:06) (Atom) forgiveness of ones selfs is a top of list
(10:21:40) (Atom) ?
(10:21:49) (Richard) I agree Cris. But when we do not love it is even more important to forgive.
(10:21:59) (Host-Roz) so right Atom
(10:22:09) (Mandy) to forgive because you see there folly that you once had..and still do, but now without an Ego
(10:22:39) (Host-Roz) or we come back to get it right this time
(10:22:45) (ron) self-exaltation?
(10:23:10) (Richard) Even more Mandy to forgive because it is only an illusion and there was nothing to forgi ve in the first place.
(10:23:28) (Mandy) Richard..see that Nothing matters anyway...raise your Shoulder in Love to Another In Love with you I Am
(10:23:53) (Mandy) are you here to Stay?
(10:24:22) (Lone_Eagle) Good question
(10:24:32) (Mandy) In Love with another in Spirit is with ourselves
(10:25:05) (Mandy) Lone Eagle..My God..it has been AGES
(10:25:12) (Richard) I can see no fault in that Mandy.
(10:25:29) (Lone_Eagle) Yeah, I don't know how long.
(10:25:48) (Mandy) Richard is of the Night in Glorious Union..and more to come
(10:26:15) (Mandy) tell Lone Eagle how it goes
(10:26:36) (Lone_Eagle) Do tell
(10:26:39) (Atom) and me
(10:27:03) (Atom) please
(10:27:53) (Richard) I am he as you are he and you are me and we are all together if I may borrow from a well known poet and musician.
(10:28:16) (Mandy) sure... I love it tonight
(10:28:25) (ron) well known musician...hmm...something for me to think about :)
(10:29:13) (Lone_Eagle) I am the walrus-but I'd rather be a dolphin
(10:29:43) (Richard) I am the Eggman.
(10:29:58) (Lone_Eagle) koo koo kee choo
(10:30:11) (Atom) hey that's my line
(10:30:31) (Mandy) be the walrus...the heavier the more Gravity..the more the Soul can come down Through
(10:31:51) (Mandy) Gravity as a Black Hole..do you know how deeply you would want to Hug someone with a Black Hole Gravity? It is Wonderous
(10:33:04) (Mandy) gravity hugs are to You
(10:33:24) (Lone_Eagle) A black hole gravity...hmmm
(10:33:47) (Mandy) may we all be aware of our Souls..the Blue Chit Field around Us All
(10:33:56) (Mandy) lol
(10:33:57) (ron) or singularity
(10:34:11) (Lone_Eagle) I guess it'w that gravity that brings me here around Christmas
(10:34:12) (Mandy) I can be me too..and whatever now..lol
(10:34:34) (Mandy) love seeing you again
(10:34:43) (Richard) A true story presented on Educational TV... There was a child born back in the 90's two weeks prematurely... He had two holes in his heart and the doctors gave him only 24 hours to live.... Much to the doctors surprise after 48 hours the child was still alive and gaining wait,.. and begain to breath on his own. The Doctors and nurses where interviewed and called it a miracle
(10:34:47) (Lone_Eagle) Same here
(10:35:44) (Lone_Eagle) Any idea how the child has fared?
(10:36:14) (Mandy) Eagle how has your Kundalini fared?
(10:36:43) (Mandy) did you not know you are on Fire?
(10:37:12) (Mandy) that is the Thing..clearing
(10:37:14) (Lone_Eagle) Not a clue. Just been surviving
(10:37:24) (Richard) When the child was two years old he begain to draw pictures of Egghead shaped individuals he called the Eggmen... His pictures where so good they now occupy space at the Smithsonean.... He told the story that when he was in the incubator eggmen came to him and took him aboard there craft where they took his heart and healed it...
(10:37:28) (Mandy) that is the Thing
(10:38:21) (Lone_Eagle) The fire has yet to come. Maybe soon.
(10:38:26) (Richard) Even holding it up in front of him..;. He also told that they showed him thier children who were in glass like jars.
(10:38:35) (Mandy) The Eggman is around everyone..what is it Richard
(10:39:00) (Richard) The wholly spirit Mandy would be my guess.
(10:39:44) (Mandy) their is the psychic Eye of Wisdom.and then their is the Sahasra of Mind into the Incorportable
(10:39:56) (Mandy) there is difference
(10:39:58) (Richard) This is a true story... wish I could remember the childs name but I understand that is drawings are in the Smithsonian to this day.
(10:40:48) (Mandy) there is No Mind in the Intent as to sovern response of the Individual
(10:41:03) (Lone_Eagle) Nice story Richard. Wish we could get an update.
(10:41:12) (Richard) When I saw this story I took a greater interest in the Beatles song I am a Walrus.
(10:41:53) (Mandy) No Mind is the Intent and Love..sorry if I do not do it right for now
(10:42:00) (Lone_Eagle) Find anything else in the song interesting?
(10:43:09) (Richard) The whole songs is a turning point in the lives of the Beatles... they became very eastern an contributed much to bringing the easter thought to us.
(10:43:52) (Mandy) I am a Walrus means IN Yoga..Gravity..Heavy comes the Sound.and then enters the Spirit
(10:44:43) (Mandy) they did not it seems..lol
(10:44:44) (Richard) And the eggmen Mandy?
(10:44:58) (Mandy) I Am
(10:45:08) (Mandy) Are You?
(10:45:37) (Mandy) how heavy are you Mister
(10:45:51) (Lone_Eagle) I think. Therefor I am. I think.
(10:46:03) (Richard) The whole song is a representation of a period of meditation and awareness.
(10:46:16) (Mandy) that is the Sound that premeated and All can Hear
(10:47:29) (Mandy) you think Lone because you have never been Told Not To Think ..Meditate On...Who Am I?
(10:48:08) (Mandy) You are already there Lone Eagle..Meditate in Silence..God God God
(10:49:06) (Lone_Eagle) Candy Mandy
(10:49:20) (Mandy) Yes I know now tonight..God is everywhere and I see In Us all
(10:49:56) (Mandy) not the way you want Lone..delve those energies
(10:50:27) (Host-Roz) Love and Light All and thanks for coming
(10:51:11) (Lone_Eagle) Bye Roz and Merry Christmas
