Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 10, 2006 22:30:14 GMT -5
Secret Of The Book Of Enoch: 12-10-06
(09:29:09) (Host-Roz) well shall we center
(09:29:43) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:29:49) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:29:52) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:00) (merri) Amen
(09:30:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:11) (Richard) Amen
(09:30:14) (mark) Amen
(09:31:12) (Leon) Amen
(09:31:26) (Host-Roz) the Seventh Heaven
(09:32:28) (Host-Roz) Two men lifted me up then on seventh heaven, and I saw there was light, and fiery troops of great angels, incorporeal forces, and orders and governments, cherubim seraphim, thrones and , nine regiments, the light, and I became afraid,
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz) an to tremble with great terror, e men took me, and led me after and said to me: “Have courage, do not fear,” and showed me the me afar, sitting on his very high or what is there on the tenth since the Lord dwells here? Ont heaven is God, in the Hebrew He is called Aravat.
(09:33:56) (Richard) Is this the Enoch that is a previous incarnation of Jesus?
(09:34:37) (Host-Roz) yes it is Richard
(09:34:58) (docyabut) so what was the book of enoch that smith or somebody translated off a old book a peddler. was selling
(09:35:03) (Lory) Enoch followed Michelzedec
(09:35:42) (Host-Roz) Two men lifted me up then on seventh heaven, and I saw there was light, and fiery troops of great angels, incorporeal forces, and orders and governments, cherubim seraphim, thrones and , nine regiments, the light, and I became afraid,
(09:35:52) (docyabut) in the US
(09:36:04) (Host-Roz) havent a clue doc
(09:36:35) (Host-Roz) it is not this treatise
(09:37:15) (merri) what language was it written in doc?
(09:37:24) (docyabut) the morman translation
(09:37:42) (Host-Roz) no not mormon either
(09:37:49) (Host-Roz) And all the troops would come and stand
(09:37:58) (WalksInSpirit) Doc, this book we are talking about here was found in Ethiopia. Where the Nag Hammadi Library scripts were found. Sealed in clay jars, just like some of the New Testament books were.
(09:38:19) (docyabut) i believe they were gold tablets
(09:39:41) (Host-Roz) on steps according to their rank, and bow down to the Lord, and go to their places in joy and singing songs in the boundless small and tender voices, glorifying him.
(09:40:45) (Richard) Seems like a second persons account of what was happening to Enoch perhaps...
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) no it reiterates that it is the material given to Enoch
(09:41:38) (Richard) Many times scribes acompanied the masters and related their visions.
(09:41:48) (docyabut) was `t enoch a albino?
(09:42:47) (Richard) Much like Cayces experience.
(09:42:48) (Host-Roz) no he was not an albino
(09:42:54) (Host-Roz) . I remained alone at end of the seventh heaven and became afraid, and fell on my face and said myself: “How dreadful, what has happened to me?”
(09:44:50) (docyabut) was `t enoch a albino they said as a baby he had white hair and eyes of fire
(09:45:13) (WalksInSpirit) Who said that, Doc?
(09:45:38) (Host-Roz) “My Lord, my soul is departed from me, because of terror and trembling called to the men who had led me to this. place
(09:45:49) (Cris) If true he was a profound child for those times
(09:46:07) (docyabut) in the manuscripts
(09:46:23) (WalksInSpirit) In what manuscripts, Doc?
(09:47:16) (Host-Roz) , for it was with them I was to go before the Lord’s face. And Gabriel caught hold of me a leaf caught in the wind, and placed before the Lord’s face.
(09:47:44) (Host-Roz) Interesting that he could not behold the Lord's face
(09:49:04) (docyabut) is why they thought he was a angel
(09:49:27) (Sophia) Gabriel has appeared to me as a female
(09:49:46) (docyabut) read it you will find it
(09:50:17) (Richard) That is interesting Sophia.
(09:50:20) (Host-Roz) Enoch in the Tenth Heaven
(09:50:34) (kazu) sophia WOW!
(09:51:02) (Sophia) yes ... her name was spoken and she appeared to my left ... when angels or ascended masters etc appear to my left they rep females energies and likewise to the right for male
(09:51:08) (Host-Roz) In the Tenth Heaven the Archangel Michael Led Enoch Before God’s Face
(09:51:19) (Richard) This mirrows Cayce's discription.
(09:51:19) (kazu) Sopjia How did you know that was gabriel?
(09:51:44) (Richard) Good question kazu.
(09:52:23) (Sophia) She whispered her name twice
(09:52:33) (Bill) and was wearing a kilt
(09:52:43) (mark) let's let Roz Finnish,.....please
(09:52:48) (Host-Roz) angels are not sexed they are a different realm than mankind
(09:53:02) (Host-Roz) On the tenth heaven, Aravoth, I saw the appearance of the Lord’s face, like iron glowing in fire, emitting sparks, and burning.
(09:53:23) (Richard) Not that they don't understand sexuality
(09:53:31) (Sophia) very true Roz ... however Michael would appear male although he incorporates both ... they are perfectly balanced
(09:54:04) (Host-Roz) Thus I saw the Lord’s face, but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvelous
(09:55:08) (Host-Roz) but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvelous; awful, and very, very terrible. And who am I to tell of the Lord’s unspeakable being, of his wondrous face?
(09:56:02) (Host-Roz) ? I cannot tell the quantity of his many instructions, his various voices. I cannot tell of the Lord’s throne, great and not made by hands,
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz) This concludes the study of the Secrets of Enoch
(09:57:38) (Cris) Thanks Roz
(09:57:39) (Lory) Interesting text, Roz. Thanks for the presentation.
(09:57:41) (mark) that's the end?
(09:58:01) (Sophia) Is this a different book Roz than the Keys of Enoch?
(09:58:04) (merri) very interesting thanks Roz....sorry to see it end
(09:58:12) (Host-Roz) next week we will begin a sudy of an account of the birth Of Jesus
(09:58:17) (Richard) It would seem that Enoch was face to face with his ascended self.
(09:58:44) (Host-Roz) not familiar with the Keys of Enoch sophia
(09:58:51) (mark) thanks you Roz
(09:58:52) (Sophia) k
(09:58:54) (WalksInSpirit) This has been an awesome study, Roz! Thank you! I have really enjoyed it very much, and have learned a lot.
(09:58:58) (Host-Roz) me too Merri
(09:59:13) (Lory) I find it very interesting that docyabut read where Enoch was an albino infant.
(09:59:14) (Leon) thanks Host-Roz
(09:59:23) (Richard) Me too WIS... thanks Roz.
(09:59:28) (Host-Roz) or did come face to face w/ God Richard
(09:59:37) (Cris) I really enjoyed this study
(09:59:58) (Host-Roz) would you like to expand on that doc?
(10:00:31) (Richard) That would be the ascended self.. That last incarnation.. Gary Renard experienced that with his ascended self.
(10:00:53) (mark) ascended self is same as higher self
(10:01:07) (Bill) like Ricard said Enoch must have come face to face with higher self
(10:01:13) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, I'd like to know *what* manuscript you referenced before. You never told me when I asked. :-)
(10:01:20) (Bill) the good bad and the ugly
(10:01:24) (Richard) Suggesting that we all have our ascended selfs as guides.
(10:01:39) (Host-Roz) seemingly so Bill
(10:02:29) (Richard) I have heard that there are 3 different but complimentary books of Enoch.
(10:02:43) (docyabut) thanks lory , got to find the scripts again
(10:02:56) (Host-Roz) and was in very high company with Gabriel and the archangel Michael
(10:03:02) (Sophia) Enoch is the incarnation of the angel Metatron
(10:03:08) (Richard) One might have been Enoch... son of Adam.
(10:03:35) (Host-Roz) Cayce does not mention that Sophia
(10:03:47) (Bill) in that case Enoch wouldn't be a people
(10:03:58) (Host-Roz) exackle
(10:04:05) (Sophia) It is a well known fact actually that when Enoch ascended he became the angel Metatron
(10:04:12) (merri) angels do not incarnate
(10:04:16) (Host-Roz) in that angels are of a differnt realm
(10:04:23) (Sophia) there were only 2 that were human
(10:04:42) (Sophia) Metatron and his brother
(10:04:46) (Cris) Which other one?
(10:04:48) (Host-Roz) where did yu get that information
(10:04:50) (Richard) That suggest that Jesus was also Metatron... or we are still speaking of two Enochs.
(10:04:52) (Sophia) umm ... I forget how to spell his name
(10:04:52) (Bill) Sophia are you saying i'm not an angel?
(10:05:05) (Sophia) no Jesus is not Metatron
(10:05:09) (mark) what about fallen Angels?
(10:05:14) (Sophia) i would never say that Bill
(10:05:20) (Bill) :o)
(10:05:33) (Sophia) Sandalphon ... something like that ... I could check ...
(10:05:36) (Richard) Looks like more research is in the works.
(10:05:42) (Bill) then you don't know me very well Sophia cause i'm a tyrant
(10:05:49) (Sophia) lol
(10:06:00) (Host-Roz) Enoch does discuss a time when fallen angels came into women and produced giants
(10:06:34) (Lory) Wasn't Enoch in spirit form just as was Michelzedec?
(10:06:50) (Bill) Roz could be those giants were things
(10:06:53) (mark) were we All not angels at one time?
(10:07:13) (Bill) No Mark were were of the spirit realm
(10:07:15) (Sophia) we all come from the same Source so in fact we are everything ...
(10:07:18) (Host-Roz) there are accounts in the Bible of Enoch so I assiume he had form
(10:07:36) (Richard) Remember one was the Son of Adam.
(10:07:41) (Sophia) ye s... Enoch was a man walking on earth
(10:07:52) (Lory) But there are accounts of Michelzedec too, Roz, and he was of spirit form.
(10:07:59) (Bill) he may have had form was he before Noah Roz?
(10:08:00) (Host-Roz) one was a son of Adam?
(10:08:28) (Sophia) you can find much info on the net about Enoch
(10:09:02) (Host-Roz) Michelzedec was the high priest to Abraham
(10:09:07) (Sophia) and Melchezidek
(10:09:21) (Host-Roz) He was not Noah
(10:09:43) (Sophia) Abraham was El Morya in a past incarnation and he was also one of the 3 wise men
(10:09:47) (Lory) I have a quote from the Cayce readings:
(10:10:02) (Host-Roz) give it to us please Lory
(10:10:05) (Sophia) or rather El Morya was Abraham and one of the magi
(10:10:05) (mark) ok
(10:10:30) (Lory) Q-19: Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began.
(10:11:10) (Lory) A-19: First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedec, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. "5749-14
(10:11:42) (WalksInSpirit) This is my belief on Angels. I don't believe they incarnate - (are born into a lifetime on earth) - but, they can take human form from time to time to help us, and to bring us messages from God. I don't think we can hear Angels from Spirit World, either. I think they must take human form in order for us to hear them. I believe that Angels are a different phylm of creation than we are. The Bible says man was made "a little lower than the Angels" indicating a difference in life forms.
(10:12:08) (Sophia) Metatron was human at one time WIS
(10:12:27) (Bill) as i thought Enoch was before solidity
(10:12:43) (mark) where did you read that Sophia ?? about El Morya was Abraham
(10:12:48) (Host-Roz) First, as Amilius, He led - or projected - souls into the earth as thought forms. Then He came as Adam, the first physical man, who "fell" in the flesh and thus it became necessary for him to eventually come as the last Adam to show us the way. Thirdly He came as Enoch, who walked with God and was not because God took him.
(10:13:17) (Sophia) you can find the info on the net mark
(10:13:46) (Lory) Sophia, is the info on the net direct quotes from the Cayce material?
(10:13:58) (Sophia) I have seen El Morya several times in visions
(10:13:59) (Host-Roz) Then He came as Melchizedek, the prince of Salem, without father, without mother, without days; he was not born and he did not die. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. Many parallels can be found here with the life of Jesus. According to the readings Melchizedek, had attained the state of mastership such as we find in the so-called Eastern masters.
(10:14:05) (Sophia) I have also met and seen Metatron
(10:14:36) (Sophia) he is amazing
(10:14:50) (Host-Roz) He came then as Joseph. We see many parallels here with Jesus. Then He came as Joshua, the medium through which Moses obtained the laws on the mount. Next He came as Jeshua, the scribe, who compiled and rewrote the Biblical record as we have it to that date. Then He came into the earth as Zend [San - Zan?], father of the first Zoroaster, who wrote - the readings say - the Zend Avesta, sacred writings of the Persians.
(10:15:17) (Richard) Adam begat Seth, Seth begat Enosh, Enosh begat Kenan, Kenan begat Mahalalel, Mahalalel begat Jared, Jared begat Enoch. And Enoch lived sixty-five years. And Enoch waliked with God: and he was not, for God took him.
(10:15:28) (Sophia) Jesus had other incarnations after his life as Jesus ... one at least
(10:15:37) (Host-Roz) Finally He came as Jesus, the last Adam, in whom we all may be made alive - or at one with our Creator.
(10:16:01) (Host-Roz) not according to Cayce Sophia
(10:16:31) (Sophia) maybe so ... however Cayce , whom I respect greatly, does nor did have all the answers
(10:16:57) (Host-Roz) Gradually, life after life, here a little, there a little, the soul perfected itself in the earth and, as Jesus, took his spiritualized body back to God, becoming the Christ.
(10:17:22) (Lory) Sophia, where did you see that information about another incarnation of Jesus? Good heavens.
(10:17:31) (mark) i was thinking on this EC and Jesus always worked together,....was wondering if he was here then with EC
(10:17:39) (Sophia) interesting that Cayce always referred to Creator as male ... never mentioning the female aspect ... the Goddess
(10:17:47) (Host-Roz) each of us must do the same.
(10:18:12) (Sophia) i read it in several different places
(10:18:14) (Host-Roz) we are all both male and female
(10:18:25) (Sophia) yes we are Goddess and God
(10:18:47) (Richard) We are one.
(10:19:31) (Host-Roz) we are a portion of God made in his likeness and image
(10:20:41) (Bill) actually created in His likeness but at this time in human form
(10:21:00) (Sophia) i pray we all remember more ...
(10:23:12) (Host-Roz) Thank all for coming and participating you are a GOOD group
(10:23:27) (Sophia) Thank you for hosting Roz
(10:23:34) (Lory) Thanks Roz. Goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:23:53) (Host-Roz) next wk and the following we will have a study on the birth of Jesus
(10:24:01) (Cris) Thanks again Roz
(10:24:30) (Host-Roz) you are so welcome teach learns most
(10:24:49) (docyabut) night all read the the wrtiings you find that enoch was a albino and thought to be a angel
(10:25:20) (WalksInSpirit) We did, and it didn't, Doc. Night Blessings to you!
(10:26:42) (docyabut) its there walkkin i dont have the time to find the script
(10:26:58) (WalksInSpirit) We just spent months covering it, Doc.
(10:27:04) (WalksInSpirit) It ain't there
(10:27:48) (docyabut) wi`ll be back later with the script:):)
(09:29:43) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:29:49) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:29:52) (Cris) Amen
(09:30:00) (merri) Amen
(09:30:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:30:11) (Richard) Amen
(09:30:14) (mark) Amen
(09:31:12) (Leon) Amen
(09:31:26) (Host-Roz) the Seventh Heaven
(09:32:28) (Host-Roz) Two men lifted me up then on seventh heaven, and I saw there was light, and fiery troops of great angels, incorporeal forces, and orders and governments, cherubim seraphim, thrones and , nine regiments, the light, and I became afraid,
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz) an to tremble with great terror, e men took me, and led me after and said to me: “Have courage, do not fear,” and showed me the me afar, sitting on his very high or what is there on the tenth since the Lord dwells here? Ont heaven is God, in the Hebrew He is called Aravat.
(09:33:56) (Richard) Is this the Enoch that is a previous incarnation of Jesus?
(09:34:37) (Host-Roz) yes it is Richard
(09:34:58) (docyabut) so what was the book of enoch that smith or somebody translated off a old book a peddler. was selling
(09:35:03) (Lory) Enoch followed Michelzedec
(09:35:42) (Host-Roz) Two men lifted me up then on seventh heaven, and I saw there was light, and fiery troops of great angels, incorporeal forces, and orders and governments, cherubim seraphim, thrones and , nine regiments, the light, and I became afraid,
(09:35:52) (docyabut) in the US
(09:36:04) (Host-Roz) havent a clue doc
(09:36:35) (Host-Roz) it is not this treatise
(09:37:15) (merri) what language was it written in doc?
(09:37:24) (docyabut) the morman translation
(09:37:42) (Host-Roz) no not mormon either
(09:37:49) (Host-Roz) And all the troops would come and stand
(09:37:58) (WalksInSpirit) Doc, this book we are talking about here was found in Ethiopia. Where the Nag Hammadi Library scripts were found. Sealed in clay jars, just like some of the New Testament books were.
(09:38:19) (docyabut) i believe they were gold tablets
(09:39:41) (Host-Roz) on steps according to their rank, and bow down to the Lord, and go to their places in joy and singing songs in the boundless small and tender voices, glorifying him.
(09:40:45) (Richard) Seems like a second persons account of what was happening to Enoch perhaps...
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) no it reiterates that it is the material given to Enoch
(09:41:38) (Richard) Many times scribes acompanied the masters and related their visions.
(09:41:48) (docyabut) was `t enoch a albino?
(09:42:47) (Richard) Much like Cayces experience.
(09:42:48) (Host-Roz) no he was not an albino
(09:42:54) (Host-Roz) . I remained alone at end of the seventh heaven and became afraid, and fell on my face and said myself: “How dreadful, what has happened to me?”
(09:44:50) (docyabut) was `t enoch a albino they said as a baby he had white hair and eyes of fire
(09:45:13) (WalksInSpirit) Who said that, Doc?
(09:45:38) (Host-Roz) “My Lord, my soul is departed from me, because of terror and trembling called to the men who had led me to this. place
(09:45:49) (Cris) If true he was a profound child for those times
(09:46:07) (docyabut) in the manuscripts
(09:46:23) (WalksInSpirit) In what manuscripts, Doc?
(09:47:16) (Host-Roz) , for it was with them I was to go before the Lord’s face. And Gabriel caught hold of me a leaf caught in the wind, and placed before the Lord’s face.
(09:47:44) (Host-Roz) Interesting that he could not behold the Lord's face
(09:49:04) (docyabut) is why they thought he was a angel
(09:49:27) (Sophia) Gabriel has appeared to me as a female
(09:49:46) (docyabut) read it you will find it
(09:50:17) (Richard) That is interesting Sophia.
(09:50:20) (Host-Roz) Enoch in the Tenth Heaven
(09:50:34) (kazu) sophia WOW!
(09:51:02) (Sophia) yes ... her name was spoken and she appeared to my left ... when angels or ascended masters etc appear to my left they rep females energies and likewise to the right for male
(09:51:08) (Host-Roz) In the Tenth Heaven the Archangel Michael Led Enoch Before God’s Face
(09:51:19) (Richard) This mirrows Cayce's discription.
(09:51:19) (kazu) Sopjia How did you know that was gabriel?
(09:51:44) (Richard) Good question kazu.
(09:52:23) (Sophia) She whispered her name twice
(09:52:33) (Bill) and was wearing a kilt
(09:52:43) (mark) let's let Roz Finnish,.....please
(09:52:48) (Host-Roz) angels are not sexed they are a different realm than mankind
(09:53:02) (Host-Roz) On the tenth heaven, Aravoth, I saw the appearance of the Lord’s face, like iron glowing in fire, emitting sparks, and burning.
(09:53:23) (Richard) Not that they don't understand sexuality
(09:53:31) (Sophia) very true Roz ... however Michael would appear male although he incorporates both ... they are perfectly balanced
(09:54:04) (Host-Roz) Thus I saw the Lord’s face, but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvelous
(09:55:08) (Host-Roz) but the Lord’s face is ineffable, marvelous; awful, and very, very terrible. And who am I to tell of the Lord’s unspeakable being, of his wondrous face?
(09:56:02) (Host-Roz) ? I cannot tell the quantity of his many instructions, his various voices. I cannot tell of the Lord’s throne, great and not made by hands,
(09:57:16) (Host-Roz) This concludes the study of the Secrets of Enoch
(09:57:38) (Cris) Thanks Roz
(09:57:39) (Lory) Interesting text, Roz. Thanks for the presentation.
(09:57:41) (mark) that's the end?
(09:58:01) (Sophia) Is this a different book Roz than the Keys of Enoch?
(09:58:04) (merri) very interesting thanks Roz....sorry to see it end
(09:58:12) (Host-Roz) next week we will begin a sudy of an account of the birth Of Jesus
(09:58:17) (Richard) It would seem that Enoch was face to face with his ascended self.
(09:58:44) (Host-Roz) not familiar with the Keys of Enoch sophia
(09:58:51) (mark) thanks you Roz
(09:58:52) (Sophia) k
(09:58:54) (WalksInSpirit) This has been an awesome study, Roz! Thank you! I have really enjoyed it very much, and have learned a lot.
(09:58:58) (Host-Roz) me too Merri
(09:59:13) (Lory) I find it very interesting that docyabut read where Enoch was an albino infant.
(09:59:14) (Leon) thanks Host-Roz
(09:59:23) (Richard) Me too WIS... thanks Roz.
(09:59:28) (Host-Roz) or did come face to face w/ God Richard
(09:59:37) (Cris) I really enjoyed this study
(09:59:58) (Host-Roz) would you like to expand on that doc?
(10:00:31) (Richard) That would be the ascended self.. That last incarnation.. Gary Renard experienced that with his ascended self.
(10:00:53) (mark) ascended self is same as higher self
(10:01:07) (Bill) like Ricard said Enoch must have come face to face with higher self
(10:01:13) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, I'd like to know *what* manuscript you referenced before. You never told me when I asked. :-)
(10:01:20) (Bill) the good bad and the ugly
(10:01:24) (Richard) Suggesting that we all have our ascended selfs as guides.
(10:01:39) (Host-Roz) seemingly so Bill
(10:02:29) (Richard) I have heard that there are 3 different but complimentary books of Enoch.
(10:02:43) (docyabut) thanks lory , got to find the scripts again
(10:02:56) (Host-Roz) and was in very high company with Gabriel and the archangel Michael
(10:03:02) (Sophia) Enoch is the incarnation of the angel Metatron
(10:03:08) (Richard) One might have been Enoch... son of Adam.
(10:03:35) (Host-Roz) Cayce does not mention that Sophia
(10:03:47) (Bill) in that case Enoch wouldn't be a people
(10:03:58) (Host-Roz) exackle
(10:04:05) (Sophia) It is a well known fact actually that when Enoch ascended he became the angel Metatron
(10:04:12) (merri) angels do not incarnate
(10:04:16) (Host-Roz) in that angels are of a differnt realm
(10:04:23) (Sophia) there were only 2 that were human
(10:04:42) (Sophia) Metatron and his brother
(10:04:46) (Cris) Which other one?
(10:04:48) (Host-Roz) where did yu get that information
(10:04:50) (Richard) That suggest that Jesus was also Metatron... or we are still speaking of two Enochs.
(10:04:52) (Sophia) umm ... I forget how to spell his name
(10:04:52) (Bill) Sophia are you saying i'm not an angel?
(10:05:05) (Sophia) no Jesus is not Metatron
(10:05:09) (mark) what about fallen Angels?
(10:05:14) (Sophia) i would never say that Bill
(10:05:20) (Bill) :o)
(10:05:33) (Sophia) Sandalphon ... something like that ... I could check ...
(10:05:36) (Richard) Looks like more research is in the works.
(10:05:42) (Bill) then you don't know me very well Sophia cause i'm a tyrant
(10:05:49) (Sophia) lol
(10:06:00) (Host-Roz) Enoch does discuss a time when fallen angels came into women and produced giants
(10:06:34) (Lory) Wasn't Enoch in spirit form just as was Michelzedec?
(10:06:50) (Bill) Roz could be those giants were things
(10:06:53) (mark) were we All not angels at one time?
(10:07:13) (Bill) No Mark were were of the spirit realm
(10:07:15) (Sophia) we all come from the same Source so in fact we are everything ...
(10:07:18) (Host-Roz) there are accounts in the Bible of Enoch so I assiume he had form
(10:07:36) (Richard) Remember one was the Son of Adam.
(10:07:41) (Sophia) ye s... Enoch was a man walking on earth
(10:07:52) (Lory) But there are accounts of Michelzedec too, Roz, and he was of spirit form.
(10:07:59) (Bill) he may have had form was he before Noah Roz?
(10:08:00) (Host-Roz) one was a son of Adam?
(10:08:28) (Sophia) you can find much info on the net about Enoch
(10:09:02) (Host-Roz) Michelzedec was the high priest to Abraham
(10:09:07) (Sophia) and Melchezidek
(10:09:21) (Host-Roz) He was not Noah
(10:09:43) (Sophia) Abraham was El Morya in a past incarnation and he was also one of the 3 wise men
(10:09:47) (Lory) I have a quote from the Cayce readings:
(10:10:02) (Host-Roz) give it to us please Lory
(10:10:05) (Sophia) or rather El Morya was Abraham and one of the magi
(10:10:05) (mark) ok
(10:10:30) (Lory) Q-19: Please list the names of the incarnations of the Christ, and of Jesus, indicating where the development of the man Jesus began.
(10:11:10) (Lory) A-19: First, in the beginning, of course; and then as Enoch, Melchizedec, in the perfection. Then in the earth of Joseph, Joshua, Jeshua, Jesus. "5749-14
(10:11:42) (WalksInSpirit) This is my belief on Angels. I don't believe they incarnate - (are born into a lifetime on earth) - but, they can take human form from time to time to help us, and to bring us messages from God. I don't think we can hear Angels from Spirit World, either. I think they must take human form in order for us to hear them. I believe that Angels are a different phylm of creation than we are. The Bible says man was made "a little lower than the Angels" indicating a difference in life forms.
(10:12:08) (Sophia) Metatron was human at one time WIS
(10:12:27) (Bill) as i thought Enoch was before solidity
(10:12:43) (mark) where did you read that Sophia ?? about El Morya was Abraham
(10:12:48) (Host-Roz) First, as Amilius, He led - or projected - souls into the earth as thought forms. Then He came as Adam, the first physical man, who "fell" in the flesh and thus it became necessary for him to eventually come as the last Adam to show us the way. Thirdly He came as Enoch, who walked with God and was not because God took him.
(10:13:17) (Sophia) you can find the info on the net mark
(10:13:46) (Lory) Sophia, is the info on the net direct quotes from the Cayce material?
(10:13:58) (Sophia) I have seen El Morya several times in visions
(10:13:59) (Host-Roz) Then He came as Melchizedek, the prince of Salem, without father, without mother, without days; he was not born and he did not die. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. Many parallels can be found here with the life of Jesus. According to the readings Melchizedek, had attained the state of mastership such as we find in the so-called Eastern masters.
(10:14:05) (Sophia) I have also met and seen Metatron
(10:14:36) (Sophia) he is amazing
(10:14:50) (Host-Roz) He came then as Joseph. We see many parallels here with Jesus. Then He came as Joshua, the medium through which Moses obtained the laws on the mount. Next He came as Jeshua, the scribe, who compiled and rewrote the Biblical record as we have it to that date. Then He came into the earth as Zend [San - Zan?], father of the first Zoroaster, who wrote - the readings say - the Zend Avesta, sacred writings of the Persians.
(10:15:17) (Richard) Adam begat Seth, Seth begat Enosh, Enosh begat Kenan, Kenan begat Mahalalel, Mahalalel begat Jared, Jared begat Enoch. And Enoch lived sixty-five years. And Enoch waliked with God: and he was not, for God took him.
(10:15:28) (Sophia) Jesus had other incarnations after his life as Jesus ... one at least
(10:15:37) (Host-Roz) Finally He came as Jesus, the last Adam, in whom we all may be made alive - or at one with our Creator.
(10:16:01) (Host-Roz) not according to Cayce Sophia
(10:16:31) (Sophia) maybe so ... however Cayce , whom I respect greatly, does nor did have all the answers
(10:16:57) (Host-Roz) Gradually, life after life, here a little, there a little, the soul perfected itself in the earth and, as Jesus, took his spiritualized body back to God, becoming the Christ.
(10:17:22) (Lory) Sophia, where did you see that information about another incarnation of Jesus? Good heavens.
(10:17:31) (mark) i was thinking on this EC and Jesus always worked together,....was wondering if he was here then with EC
(10:17:39) (Sophia) interesting that Cayce always referred to Creator as male ... never mentioning the female aspect ... the Goddess
(10:17:47) (Host-Roz) each of us must do the same.
(10:18:12) (Sophia) i read it in several different places
(10:18:14) (Host-Roz) we are all both male and female
(10:18:25) (Sophia) yes we are Goddess and God
(10:18:47) (Richard) We are one.
(10:19:31) (Host-Roz) we are a portion of God made in his likeness and image
(10:20:41) (Bill) actually created in His likeness but at this time in human form
(10:21:00) (Sophia) i pray we all remember more ...
(10:23:12) (Host-Roz) Thank all for coming and participating you are a GOOD group
(10:23:27) (Sophia) Thank you for hosting Roz
(10:23:34) (Lory) Thanks Roz. Goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:23:53) (Host-Roz) next wk and the following we will have a study on the birth of Jesus
(10:24:01) (Cris) Thanks again Roz
(10:24:30) (Host-Roz) you are so welcome teach learns most
(10:24:49) (docyabut) night all read the the wrtiings you find that enoch was a albino and thought to be a angel
(10:25:20) (WalksInSpirit) We did, and it didn't, Doc. Night Blessings to you!
(10:26:42) (docyabut) its there walkkin i dont have the time to find the script
(10:26:58) (WalksInSpirit) We just spent months covering it, Doc.
(10:27:04) (WalksInSpirit) It ain't there
(10:27:48) (docyabut) wi`ll be back later with the script:):)
