Post by WalksInSpirit on Mar 26, 2006 22:19:50 GMT -5
"Secret Of The Golden Flower:" 03-26-06
(09:22:18) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:22:24) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:22:28) (Cris) Amen
(09:22:29) (Lory) Amen
(09:22:50) (ron) amen
(09:22:55) (Leon) Amen
(09:23:18) (Host-Roz) THE LIVING MANNER OF THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:24:19) (Host-Roz) before we proceed are there any questions from previouos material
(09:25:00) (Host-Roz) : When there is gradual success in producing the circulation of the Light, a person must not give up their ordinary occupation in doing it. The ancients said: When occupations come to us, we must accept them; when things come to us, we must understand them from the ground up.
(09:25:52) (Host-Roz) If the occupations are regulated by correct thoughts, the Light is not scattered by outside things, but circulates according to its own law. Even the still-invisible circulation of the Light gets started this way, how much more then is it the case with the true circulation of the Light which has already manifested itself clearly.
(09:25:55) (ephemeral) Amen to above centering. I'll follow along quietly.
(09:26:25) (Host-Roz) tks ephemeral
(09:26:59) (Host-Roz) When in ordinary life one has the ability always to react to things by reflexes only, without any admixture of a thought of others or of himself, that is a circulation of the Light arising out of circumstances. It is the first secret.
(09:28:38) (Host-Roz) Words crystallize the spirit in the place of power. The sixth month the white snow is suddenly seen to fly. The third watch the disk of the sun sends out shining rays. The water blows the wind of gentleness. Wandering in Heaven, one eats the spirit-power of the receptive. The deeper secret within the secret: land that is nowhere, that is the true home.
(09:29:28) (Host-Roz) A MAGIC SPELL FOR THE FAR JOURNEY
(09:29:57) (Host-Roz) brings up our discussion this last week doesnt it Lory?
(09:30:29) (Host-Roz) These verses are full of mystery. The meaning is: The most important thing in the Great Meaning is the four words: non-action in action. Non-action prevents a person from becoming entangled in form and image (substantiality). Action in non-action prevents a person from sinking into numbing emptiness and a dead nothingness.
(09:30:33) (Lory) Indeed, it does, Roz.
(09:31:39) (Host-Roz) The effect is in the two eyes. The two eyes are like the pole of the Great Wain which turns the whole of creation; the cause the poles of Light and darkness to rotate.
(09:32:12) (Host-Roz) recall how we use a plumb line to fix thegaze of the two eyes
(09:32:44) (Host-Roz) The Elixir depends from beginning to end on the One; the metal in the middle of the water, that is, the lead in the water-region. Heretofore we have spoken of the circulation of the Light, indicating thereby the initial release which works from without upon what lies within.
(09:33:22) (Host-Roz) lead= lyden
(09:33:57) (Host-Roz) relationship of the lyden to the Christ center
(09:34:09) (Host-Roz) open door and closed door
(09:35:00) (Host-Roz) This is to aid one in obtaining the Master. It is for the pupils in the beginning stages. They go through the two lower transitions in order to gain the upper one.
(09:36:13) (Host-Roz) an erg of energy moves from the lyden to the pineal and the piturary
(09:36:33) (Lory) directly? Why does it pass the others?
(09:37:00) (Host-Roz) it is its nature
(09:37:05) (Host-Roz) After the sequence of events is clear and the nature of the release is known, Heaven no longer withholds the Meaning, but reveals the ultimate truth. Disciples keep it secret and hold to it strictly!
(09:37:33) (Host-Roz) the energy moves not by the will but by the ideal held
(09:37:47) (Leon) Ultimate truth-- interesting
(09:38:01) (ephemeral) you mean belief is the key to the experience, over desire?
(09:38:07) (ron) Brotherhood comes first
(09:38:11) (ephemeral) I meant desire as in "will."
(09:38:15) (Leon) Ideal-- a Cayce concept
(09:38:26) (Host-Roz) and by the autonomic nervous system which also controls heart rate and breath
(09:38:33) (ephemeral) got it.
(09:38:36) (ron) and Jesus said, only thru me can you go to the Father
(09:39:04) (ron) Therefore Jesus becomes your Intessessor
(09:39:05) (Host-Roz) through the Christness
(09:39:23) (Host-Roz) you own Christness
(09:39:28) (ron) Lyen-Pineal-pituitary
(09:40:23) (Leon) I'll have a double
(09:40:30) (ron) well, that is just my view right now...most likely will change as i go along
(09:40:31) (Host-Roz) The circulation of the Light is the inclusive term. The further the work advances, the more can the Golden Flower bloom. But there is a still more marvelous kind of circulation. Till now we have worked from the outside on what is within; now we tarry in the center and rule what is external.
(09:41:27) (Host-Roz) we internalize the light and become the LIGHT
(09:42:29) (Host-Roz) If one wants to penetrate the more delicate regions by this method, one must first see to it that the body and heart are completely controlled, that one is quite free and at peace, letting go of all entanglements, untroubled by the slightest excitement, with the Heavenly Heart exactly in the middle.
(09:43:23) (Host-Roz) and by this method we do not stimulate karmic patterns stored in the chakras
(09:44:07) (Host-Roz) Then let one lower the lids of the two eyes as if one received a holy edict, a summons to the minister. Who would dare disobey? Then one illumines the house of the abysmal (water) with both eyes. Wherever the Golden Flower appears, the true Light of polarity goes out to meet it.
(09:45:16) (Host-Roz) anyone care to describe the shape of the Golden Flower
(09:45:42) (Lory) Is it like a star or a rose?
(09:45:48) (Host-Roz) a thousand petaled lotus
(09:45:55) (mjoy) sunflower?
(09:46:17) (Host-Roz) as each chakras is petaled
(09:46:49) (Host-Roz) 2 a t the gonad ect
(09:47:25) (Host-Roz) The principle of that which adheres to (lightness), is light outside and dark within; it is the body of the creative. Darkness enters and becomes master. The results is that the heart (consciousness), becomes dependent on things, is directed outward, and is tossed about on the stream.
(09:48:23) (Host-Roz) When the rotating Light shines within the heart, it does not become dependent on things, the power of the dark is limited, and the Golden Flower shines with concentration. It is then the collected Light of polarity. Things that are related attract each other.
(09:48:51) (Host-Roz) our Light attracts Light
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) Thus does the polarity Light-line of the abysmal press upward. It is not only the Light in the abyss, but it is creative Light meeting creative Light. As soon as these two substances meet each other, they unite inseparably, and unceasing life begins; it comes and goes, and rises and falls of itself, in the house of primordial power.
(09:50:33) (Host-Roz) easy to circulate but difficut to fix
(09:51:15) (Host-Roz) One is aware of effulgence and infinity. The whole body feels lighter and would like to fly. This is the state of which it is said: Clouds fill the thousand mountains. Gradually it (life) goes here and there quite quietly; it rises and falls imperceptibly. The pulse stands still and breathing stops.
(09:51:44) (Host-Roz) breathing is at this place
(09:51:56) (ephemeral) Effulgence is radiance?
(09:52:20) (Host-Roz) This is the moment of true creative unity, the state of which it is said: The moon gathers up the ten thousand waters. In the midst of this darkness, the Heavenly Heart suddenly begins a movement. This is the return of the one Light, the time when the child comes to life.
(09:54:56) (Host-Roz) But the details of this must be carefully explained. When a person looks at something, listens to something, eyes and ears move and follow the things until they have passed.
(09:56:07) (Host-Roz) These movements are all underlings, and when the Heavenly ruler follows them in their tasks, it means: To live together with demons.
(09:56:59) (Ral) ty roz
(09:57:16) (Ral) pls keep me in your prayers
(09:57:27) (Host-Roz) If now, during every movement and every moment of rest, a person lives together with people and not with demons, then the Heavenly ruler is the t rue man. When he moves and we move with him, the movement is the root of Heaven.
(09:57:29) (Lynn) demons! Yikes, Roz
(09:57:37) (Ral) i go to jail this week
(09:57:37) (Ral) knight
(09:57:45) (Host-Roz) of our own making Lynn
(09:57:53) (Leon) I would be happy too Ral
(09:57:58) (Host-Roz) If now, during every movement and every moment of rest, a person lives together with people and not with demons, then the Heavenly ruler is the t rue man. When he moves and we move with him, the movement is the root of Heaven.
(09:58:04) (Lynn) Like we are of God-çg
(09:58:15) (Lynn) Like we are of God-Goddess own making?
(09:59:08) (Lynn) Puppies grow up to be Dogs. Colts grow up to be horses. What do God´s children grow up to be? lol
(09:59:17) (Lynn) sorry, I meant to whisper
(09:59:30) (Host-Roz) When he is quiet and we are quiet with him, this quietness is the cave of the moon. When he continues to alternate movement and quietness, one ought to go on with him unceasingly in movement and quietness
(09:59:53) (Leon) One with you Lynn
(10:00:30) (Host-Roz) When the Heavenly Heart still preserves calm, movement before the right time is a fault of softness. When the Heavenly Heart has already moved, the movement that follows afterwards, corresponding with it, is a fault or rigidity.
(10:02:45) (Host-Roz) The Heavenly Heart rises to the summit of the creative, where it expands in complete freedom. Then suddenly it wants the deepest silence, and one must lead it speedily and with one's whole being into the yellow castle. Thus the eyes behold the central yellow dwelling place of the spirit.
(10:03:29) (Host-Roz) and we have reached the Golden Silence
(10:04:05) (Host-Roz) any questions?
(10:12:48) (Host-Roz) open chat now
(10:13:12) (Lory) Thanks for a neat study, Roz.
(10:13:37) (Cris) I appreciate the time you put in this for us Roz
(10:13:38) (Roz) so welcome Lory hope it was fruitful
(10:13:42) (mjoy) roz, are you reading from the secret flower, and how does e cayce commentary fit in?
(10:13:43) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, as usual, Roz! thank you!
(10:13:43) (ephemeral) Thank you Roz.
(10:13:53) (Lory) Have you used any of Cayce's comments yet?
(10:13:53) (Cheryl) ty, Roz
(10:14:04) (ron) very good roz
(10:14:31) (Lynn) ty
(10:14:39) (Roz) Cayce did not make a commentary on this study but I will be glad to state His method
(10:14:45) (ephemeral) I understood the bulk of the material, but I was unsure of what "wain" and "erg" meant. Lost me there.
(10:15:17) (Roz) wain? erg is a spark of energy
(10:15:48) (mjoy) ok, no i was wondering if there was something i missed in my books
(10:16:27) (ephemeral) The word "wain" was in one of above sentences near the start. One definition of wain is a chariot, but it didn't seem like that was your meaning,
(10:16:37) (Lory) WIS' greeting makes reference to Cayce's commentary. That is why I was asking, Roz.
(10:17:27) (Roz) I will review it next week and have some material from the Essene Gospel
(09:22:24) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:22:28) (Cris) Amen
(09:22:29) (Lory) Amen
(09:22:50) (ron) amen
(09:22:55) (Leon) Amen
(09:23:18) (Host-Roz) THE LIVING MANNER OF THE CIRCULATION OF THE LIGHT
(09:24:19) (Host-Roz) before we proceed are there any questions from previouos material
(09:25:00) (Host-Roz) : When there is gradual success in producing the circulation of the Light, a person must not give up their ordinary occupation in doing it. The ancients said: When occupations come to us, we must accept them; when things come to us, we must understand them from the ground up.
(09:25:52) (Host-Roz) If the occupations are regulated by correct thoughts, the Light is not scattered by outside things, but circulates according to its own law. Even the still-invisible circulation of the Light gets started this way, how much more then is it the case with the true circulation of the Light which has already manifested itself clearly.
(09:25:55) (ephemeral) Amen to above centering. I'll follow along quietly.
(09:26:25) (Host-Roz) tks ephemeral
(09:26:59) (Host-Roz) When in ordinary life one has the ability always to react to things by reflexes only, without any admixture of a thought of others or of himself, that is a circulation of the Light arising out of circumstances. It is the first secret.
(09:28:38) (Host-Roz) Words crystallize the spirit in the place of power. The sixth month the white snow is suddenly seen to fly. The third watch the disk of the sun sends out shining rays. The water blows the wind of gentleness. Wandering in Heaven, one eats the spirit-power of the receptive. The deeper secret within the secret: land that is nowhere, that is the true home.
(09:29:28) (Host-Roz) A MAGIC SPELL FOR THE FAR JOURNEY
(09:29:57) (Host-Roz) brings up our discussion this last week doesnt it Lory?
(09:30:29) (Host-Roz) These verses are full of mystery. The meaning is: The most important thing in the Great Meaning is the four words: non-action in action. Non-action prevents a person from becoming entangled in form and image (substantiality). Action in non-action prevents a person from sinking into numbing emptiness and a dead nothingness.
(09:30:33) (Lory) Indeed, it does, Roz.
(09:31:39) (Host-Roz) The effect is in the two eyes. The two eyes are like the pole of the Great Wain which turns the whole of creation; the cause the poles of Light and darkness to rotate.
(09:32:12) (Host-Roz) recall how we use a plumb line to fix thegaze of the two eyes
(09:32:44) (Host-Roz) The Elixir depends from beginning to end on the One; the metal in the middle of the water, that is, the lead in the water-region. Heretofore we have spoken of the circulation of the Light, indicating thereby the initial release which works from without upon what lies within.
(09:33:22) (Host-Roz) lead= lyden
(09:33:57) (Host-Roz) relationship of the lyden to the Christ center
(09:34:09) (Host-Roz) open door and closed door
(09:35:00) (Host-Roz) This is to aid one in obtaining the Master. It is for the pupils in the beginning stages. They go through the two lower transitions in order to gain the upper one.
(09:36:13) (Host-Roz) an erg of energy moves from the lyden to the pineal and the piturary
(09:36:33) (Lory) directly? Why does it pass the others?
(09:37:00) (Host-Roz) it is its nature
(09:37:05) (Host-Roz) After the sequence of events is clear and the nature of the release is known, Heaven no longer withholds the Meaning, but reveals the ultimate truth. Disciples keep it secret and hold to it strictly!
(09:37:33) (Host-Roz) the energy moves not by the will but by the ideal held
(09:37:47) (Leon) Ultimate truth-- interesting
(09:38:01) (ephemeral) you mean belief is the key to the experience, over desire?
(09:38:07) (ron) Brotherhood comes first
(09:38:11) (ephemeral) I meant desire as in "will."
(09:38:15) (Leon) Ideal-- a Cayce concept
(09:38:26) (Host-Roz) and by the autonomic nervous system which also controls heart rate and breath
(09:38:33) (ephemeral) got it.
(09:38:36) (ron) and Jesus said, only thru me can you go to the Father
(09:39:04) (ron) Therefore Jesus becomes your Intessessor
(09:39:05) (Host-Roz) through the Christness
(09:39:23) (Host-Roz) you own Christness
(09:39:28) (ron) Lyen-Pineal-pituitary
(09:40:23) (Leon) I'll have a double
(09:40:30) (ron) well, that is just my view right now...most likely will change as i go along
(09:40:31) (Host-Roz) The circulation of the Light is the inclusive term. The further the work advances, the more can the Golden Flower bloom. But there is a still more marvelous kind of circulation. Till now we have worked from the outside on what is within; now we tarry in the center and rule what is external.
(09:41:27) (Host-Roz) we internalize the light and become the LIGHT
(09:42:29) (Host-Roz) If one wants to penetrate the more delicate regions by this method, one must first see to it that the body and heart are completely controlled, that one is quite free and at peace, letting go of all entanglements, untroubled by the slightest excitement, with the Heavenly Heart exactly in the middle.
(09:43:23) (Host-Roz) and by this method we do not stimulate karmic patterns stored in the chakras
(09:44:07) (Host-Roz) Then let one lower the lids of the two eyes as if one received a holy edict, a summons to the minister. Who would dare disobey? Then one illumines the house of the abysmal (water) with both eyes. Wherever the Golden Flower appears, the true Light of polarity goes out to meet it.
(09:45:16) (Host-Roz) anyone care to describe the shape of the Golden Flower
(09:45:42) (Lory) Is it like a star or a rose?
(09:45:48) (Host-Roz) a thousand petaled lotus
(09:45:55) (mjoy) sunflower?
(09:46:17) (Host-Roz) as each chakras is petaled
(09:46:49) (Host-Roz) 2 a t the gonad ect
(09:47:25) (Host-Roz) The principle of that which adheres to (lightness), is light outside and dark within; it is the body of the creative. Darkness enters and becomes master. The results is that the heart (consciousness), becomes dependent on things, is directed outward, and is tossed about on the stream.
(09:48:23) (Host-Roz) When the rotating Light shines within the heart, it does not become dependent on things, the power of the dark is limited, and the Golden Flower shines with concentration. It is then the collected Light of polarity. Things that are related attract each other.
(09:48:51) (Host-Roz) our Light attracts Light
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) Thus does the polarity Light-line of the abysmal press upward. It is not only the Light in the abyss, but it is creative Light meeting creative Light. As soon as these two substances meet each other, they unite inseparably, and unceasing life begins; it comes and goes, and rises and falls of itself, in the house of primordial power.
(09:50:33) (Host-Roz) easy to circulate but difficut to fix
(09:51:15) (Host-Roz) One is aware of effulgence and infinity. The whole body feels lighter and would like to fly. This is the state of which it is said: Clouds fill the thousand mountains. Gradually it (life) goes here and there quite quietly; it rises and falls imperceptibly. The pulse stands still and breathing stops.
(09:51:44) (Host-Roz) breathing is at this place
(09:51:56) (ephemeral) Effulgence is radiance?
(09:52:20) (Host-Roz) This is the moment of true creative unity, the state of which it is said: The moon gathers up the ten thousand waters. In the midst of this darkness, the Heavenly Heart suddenly begins a movement. This is the return of the one Light, the time when the child comes to life.
(09:54:56) (Host-Roz) But the details of this must be carefully explained. When a person looks at something, listens to something, eyes and ears move and follow the things until they have passed.
(09:56:07) (Host-Roz) These movements are all underlings, and when the Heavenly ruler follows them in their tasks, it means: To live together with demons.
(09:56:59) (Ral) ty roz
(09:57:16) (Ral) pls keep me in your prayers
(09:57:27) (Host-Roz) If now, during every movement and every moment of rest, a person lives together with people and not with demons, then the Heavenly ruler is the t rue man. When he moves and we move with him, the movement is the root of Heaven.
(09:57:29) (Lynn) demons! Yikes, Roz
(09:57:37) (Ral) i go to jail this week
(09:57:37) (Ral) knight
(09:57:45) (Host-Roz) of our own making Lynn
(09:57:53) (Leon) I would be happy too Ral
(09:57:58) (Host-Roz) If now, during every movement and every moment of rest, a person lives together with people and not with demons, then the Heavenly ruler is the t rue man. When he moves and we move with him, the movement is the root of Heaven.
(09:58:04) (Lynn) Like we are of God-çg
(09:58:15) (Lynn) Like we are of God-Goddess own making?
(09:59:08) (Lynn) Puppies grow up to be Dogs. Colts grow up to be horses. What do God´s children grow up to be? lol
(09:59:17) (Lynn) sorry, I meant to whisper
(09:59:30) (Host-Roz) When he is quiet and we are quiet with him, this quietness is the cave of the moon. When he continues to alternate movement and quietness, one ought to go on with him unceasingly in movement and quietness
(09:59:53) (Leon) One with you Lynn
(10:00:30) (Host-Roz) When the Heavenly Heart still preserves calm, movement before the right time is a fault of softness. When the Heavenly Heart has already moved, the movement that follows afterwards, corresponding with it, is a fault or rigidity.
(10:02:45) (Host-Roz) The Heavenly Heart rises to the summit of the creative, where it expands in complete freedom. Then suddenly it wants the deepest silence, and one must lead it speedily and with one's whole being into the yellow castle. Thus the eyes behold the central yellow dwelling place of the spirit.
(10:03:29) (Host-Roz) and we have reached the Golden Silence
(10:04:05) (Host-Roz) any questions?
(10:12:48) (Host-Roz) open chat now
(10:13:12) (Lory) Thanks for a neat study, Roz.
(10:13:37) (Cris) I appreciate the time you put in this for us Roz
(10:13:38) (Roz) so welcome Lory hope it was fruitful
(10:13:42) (mjoy) roz, are you reading from the secret flower, and how does e cayce commentary fit in?
(10:13:43) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, as usual, Roz! thank you!
(10:13:43) (ephemeral) Thank you Roz.
(10:13:53) (Lory) Have you used any of Cayce's comments yet?
(10:13:53) (Cheryl) ty, Roz
(10:14:04) (ron) very good roz
(10:14:31) (Lynn) ty
(10:14:39) (Roz) Cayce did not make a commentary on this study but I will be glad to state His method
(10:14:45) (ephemeral) I understood the bulk of the material, but I was unsure of what "wain" and "erg" meant. Lost me there.
(10:15:17) (Roz) wain? erg is a spark of energy
(10:15:48) (mjoy) ok, no i was wondering if there was something i missed in my books
(10:16:27) (ephemeral) The word "wain" was in one of above sentences near the start. One definition of wain is a chariot, but it didn't seem like that was your meaning,
(10:16:37) (Lory) WIS' greeting makes reference to Cayce's commentary. That is why I was asking, Roz.
(10:17:27) (Roz) I will review it next week and have some material from the Essene Gospel
