Post by WalksInSpirit on Jan 22, 2006 22:00:13 GMT -5
"The Short Bible" Study: 01-22-06
(09:12:34) (Bill) Roz why is it called the short bible?
(09:13:24) (host-Roz) because he chose just short sections from various texts of the old and new testaments
(09:14:00) (Bill) ic ty
(09:14:07) (host-Roz) yw
(09:14:16) (kazu) krajenje?
(09:14:24) (kazu) who is karajenke?>
(09:14:26) (host-Roz) most pertinent he felt
(09:14:55) (Lory) That was to be my question, Roz. Mental telepathy at work tonight. :0(
(09:15:17) (host-Roz) Robert Krajanke author and lecturerer from the ARE
(09:15:34) (host-Roz) I studied with him
(09:15:37) (kazu) oh o sii. ishe priest?
(09:15:49) (host-Roz) phenomenal
(09:15:59) (host-Roz) no not a priest
(09:16:24) (host-Roz) he promises to come some nite and guest host
(09:16:33) (kazu) he promise
(09:16:53) (host-Roz) well he did at one time
(09:16:54) (Lory) The begats are rather boring aren't they? Be sure to let us know in advance when that will be, Roz.
(09:16:56) (kazu) oh i see][
(09:17:08) (host-Roz) okie
(09:17:12) (kazu) I willk ask him donation st this time
(09:17:15) (kazu) at
(09:17:19) (kazu) that time
(09:17:29) (host-Roz) then I wont invite him Kazu
(09:17:45) (Bill) Kazu you keep asking for donations here and they'll kick you off the site probably
(09:17:48) (Cheryl) lol, Roz
(09:18:47) (host-Roz) our next study wil be the Secret of theGolden Flower a study of meditation
(09:20:30) (host-Roz) lets center
(09:21:01) (host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:21:18) (host-Roz) Amen
(09:21:20) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:21:21) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:21:26) (Cris) Amen
(09:21:28) (Lory) Amen
(09:21:34) (kazu) amen
(09:21:34) (merri) Amen
(09:21:34) (azure) amen
(09:21:49) (Bill) Amen
(09:22:06) (host-Roz) we are going to back up a bit and review unless of course everyone has this nailed
(09:22:33) (Cheryl) k, Roz-hostess
(09:22:45) (host-Roz) Q—8. What is meant by a new heaven and a new earth”?
(09:23:14) (merri) awakening consciousness
(09:23:17) (host-Roz) A-8. Former things have passed away, when there is beheld within self that the whole will of the Creator, the Father, the place of abode, the forces within and without, make for the. new heaven, the new earth. (281—16)
(09:23:18) (merri) ?
(09:23:38) (host-Roz) yes Merri exackle
(09:24:24) (host-Roz) Q-5. In Rev. 21:1 — What is the meaning of a new heaven and a new earth:for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea?
(09:24:56) (Cheryl) Man's launch into space, lol
(09:25:07) (host-Roz) A-5. When the foundations of the earth are broken up by those very disturbances. Can the mind of man comprehend no desire to sin, no purpose but that the glory of the Son may be manifested in his life? Is this not a new heaven, a new earth? For the former things would have passed away. For as the desires, the purposes, the aims are to bring about the whole change physically, so does it create in the experience of each soul a new vision, a new comprehensi
(09:25:40) (host-Roz) yup Cheryl
(09:26:15) (host-Roz) For as has been given it hath not entered the heart of man to know the glories that have been prepared, that are a part of the experiences of those that love ONLY the Lord and His ways.
(09:26:56) (host-Roz) Q6 Please explain 2nd thru ~4th verse of Chapter 21 — the new Jerusalem and no more death.
(09:27:33) (host-Roz) A-6. Those then that are come into the new life, the new understanding, the new regeneration, there IS then the new Jerusalem. For as has been given, the place is not as a place alone but as a condition, as an experience of the soul.
(09:28:39) (host-Roz) Jerusalem has figuratively, symbolically, meant the holy place, the holy city—— for there, the ark of the covenant, the ark of the covenant in the minds, the hearts, the understandings, the comprehensions of those who have put away the earthly desires and become as the NEW purposes in their experience, become the new Jerusalem, the new undertakings, the new desires.
(09:30:20) (host-Roz) Q-7. What is meant by the second death in Rev. 21—8?
(09:31:21) (host-Roz) A-7. Those that have passed into the understanding and then fall away, be come minded of the earthly desires for self—exaltation, know the second death.
(09:31:55) (Cheryl) ouch, Roz, that doesn't sound like any fun. :-(
(09:32:09) (host-Roz) no for sure Cheryl
(09:32:15) (host-Roz) -8. What is meant by the Holy Jerusalem Rev. 21—12?
(09:32:30) (host-Roz) redunant perhaps?
(09:33:07) (host-Roz) -8 As indicated that purpose, that estate to which there is the attaining, shall be that happy land
(09:33:38) (host-Roz) Q-9. What is meant by the 12 gates?
(09:34:12) (Cris) The twelve apostles and twelve tribes?
(09:34:13) (host-Roz) -9. The twelve manners, the twelve ways, the twelve openings, the twelve experiences of the physical to all, and those that have all been purified in purpose for the activities with same.
(09:34:33) (host-Roz) and that too Cheryl
(09:35:04) (host-Roz) Q—1O. What is the significance of the 12 angels?
(09:35:32) (timothy) the tree of life?
(09:35:36) (host-Roz) A-lO. The twelve purposes as represented by the activities of the openings
(09:36:25) (host-Roz) to the bodily forces for their activities in the experiences of expression In the phases of the activities of the individual.
(09:37:07) (host-Roz) Q-11. Please explain the 12 names, which represent the 12 tribes of the children of Israel.
(09:37:14) (azure) spiritual centers roz ?
(09:37:38) (Bill) Chakra's?
(09:37:47) (host-Roz) A—11. The same as the twelve gates, the twelve angels, the twelve ways, the twelve understandings; or the approach to ISRAEL, the seeker——all seeking not then as the expression of self but as one in the Holy One!
(09:38:02) (azure) 12...must be the 12 openings of the body
(09:38:10) (host-Roz) yes in some cultures there are 12 Chakras
(09:38:35) (host-Roz) Cayce only gave 7
(09:38:45) (azure) or 12 astrological experiences possibly for experience?
(09:39:11) (Lory) Did he ever explain the difference, Roz?
(09:39:12) (host-Roz) Q—12. Rev. 21—15: Please interpret — What is the golden reed to measure the city? and what is the significance of the stones of the new Jerusalem and their colors?
(09:39:33) (host-Roz) was not asked I dont think Lory
(09:40:15) (host-Roz) A-12. The new understanding, the reed to measure the city, the abilities of each. Not unto all is it given to be ministers, not unto all to be interpreters, not unto all to be this or that; but measured according to that whereunto they have purposed in their hearts. Though all are as one, remember it has been given that the purpose of the heart is to know YOURSELF to BE yourself and yet one with God even as Jesus, even as is represented in God the Father
(09:41:10) (host-Roz) So the measurements for those that make the vibrations within themselves that become attuned to the new purpose, the new desire, the new hopes, the new Revelation, the new understandings to do the will of the Father with the will of that made perfect in the Christ. (281—37)
(09:42:15) (host-Roz) okie we will continue where we left off with the scripture
(09:43:03) (host-Roz) Jewels (6) and (7) are ones of enlightenment. Jewels (5) and (8) have the qualities of righteousness. Jewels (1,.) and (9) signify wisdom. Jewels (3) and (10) are symbolic of striving. Jewels (2) and (11) are ones of purpose. Jewels (1) and (12) denote steadfastness. The pryamid from bottom to top shows the progression made.
(09:44:21) (host-Roz) 21 • AND THE TWELVE GATES WERE ADORNED WITH TWELVE PEARLS ONE FOR EACH OF THE GATES, AND EACH GATE WAS MADE OF A SINGLE PEARL; AND THE GREAT STREET OF THE CITY WAS OF PURE GOLD, AS IT WERE TRANSPARENT GLASS.
(09:45:27) (host-Roz) Pearls are emblematic of beauty, luminosity and growth in consciousness resu1ti~g from the striving to overcome. The oyster produces the pearl to overcome the irritant in his being. We have produced an irritant, disruption in the creational plan by the becoming involved in the evolutionary pattern rather than the director of the evolutionary pattern as we are designed to be. Our pearls we produce within self, pear1s of wisdom, make up the gateway to rede
(09:46:20) (host-Roz) 22. BUT I SAW NO TEMPLE THERE IN, FOR THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT.
(09:46:59) (host-Roz) The temple is not a place but a living force directing the Self.
(09:47:43) (host-Roz) 23. THE CITY HAS NO NEED OF THE SUN, NEITHER OF THE MOON, TO SHINE IN IT, FOR THE GLORY OF GOD BRIGHTENS IT AND THE LAMB IS THE LAMP OF IT.
(09:47:59) (azure) thus, transcendant
(09:48:36) (host-Roz) The ability to serve “the glory of God” is the enlightenment” brightens” and the container of the light,” lamp” is our Christ.
(09:49:35) (host-Roz) 21.. AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SAVED SHALL WALK BY THAT VERY LIGHT; AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH SHALL BRING THEIR OWN GLORY AND THE HONOR OF THE PEOPLES INTO IT.
(09:50:18) (host-Roz) Having experienced enlightenment “the peoples who have been saved shall walk by that very light” the desire to continue in it in all phases of experience is stronger than all other urges. We measure all service and honor by the light “kings of the earth shall bring their own glory and the honor of the peoples into it”.
(09:51:04) (host-Roz) 25. AND THE GATES OF IT SHALL NOT BE BARRED BY DAY, FOR THERE IS NO NIGHT THERE.
(09:51:38) (host-Roz) The guidance and direction are ever available.
(09:52:22) (host-Roz) We can only bring our ability to serve “glory” and our moral purity “honor” into this state of enlightenment
(09:53:06) (host-Roz) AND THERE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO IT ANYTHING WHICH DEFILES NOR HE WHO WORKS ABOMIN’ATIONS AND LIES; ONLY THOSE SHALL ENTER WHOSE NAMES ARE WRITTEN IN THE LAMB’ S BOOK OF LIFE.
(09:53:43) (host-Roz) We cannot enter fully as long as there is within us that which defiles. Only in the state in which only God manifests in our lives do we fully participate.
(09:54:42) (ernie) fully comitted pure faith
(09:54:54) (host-Roz) next week we will begin the study of Chapter 22
(09:55:12) (Cheryl) Thank you, Roz, have to go. Be Thou Blessed, Each & Everyone... Good-Night!!
(09:55:15) (Lory) Thank you Roz.
(09:55:28) (Sophia) thank u Roz .... nite cheryl
(09:55:39) (Andrew) thanks Roz :)
(09:55:40) (azure) thanks again roz
(09:55:40) (host-Roz) you are so welcome Lory
(09:58:13) (host-Roz) it is now open chat
(09:58:30) (merri) TY Roz
(09:58:39) (Sophia) ty roz
(09:58:41) (Roz) yw Merri
(09:58:47) (WalksInSpirit) thanks Roz!
(09:58:52) (Cris) I appreciate the lesson Roz
(09:59:00) (Roz) yw Sophia, Wis and for greeting
(09:59:14) (Roz) Blessings Cris
(09:59:23) (WalksInSpirit) You're welcome, Roz!
(09:59:39) (BlackWolf) Thanks for your wisdom Roz :o)
(09:59:55) (Roz) and for yours BlackWolf
(10:00:06) (Shelly) ty Roz, and good night everyone
(09:13:24) (host-Roz) because he chose just short sections from various texts of the old and new testaments
(09:14:00) (Bill) ic ty
(09:14:07) (host-Roz) yw
(09:14:16) (kazu) krajenje?
(09:14:24) (kazu) who is karajenke?>
(09:14:26) (host-Roz) most pertinent he felt
(09:14:55) (Lory) That was to be my question, Roz. Mental telepathy at work tonight. :0(
(09:15:17) (host-Roz) Robert Krajanke author and lecturerer from the ARE
(09:15:34) (host-Roz) I studied with him
(09:15:37) (kazu) oh o sii. ishe priest?
(09:15:49) (host-Roz) phenomenal
(09:15:59) (host-Roz) no not a priest
(09:16:24) (host-Roz) he promises to come some nite and guest host
(09:16:33) (kazu) he promise
(09:16:53) (host-Roz) well he did at one time
(09:16:54) (Lory) The begats are rather boring aren't they? Be sure to let us know in advance when that will be, Roz.
(09:16:56) (kazu) oh i see][
(09:17:08) (host-Roz) okie
(09:17:12) (kazu) I willk ask him donation st this time
(09:17:15) (kazu) at
(09:17:19) (kazu) that time
(09:17:29) (host-Roz) then I wont invite him Kazu
(09:17:45) (Bill) Kazu you keep asking for donations here and they'll kick you off the site probably
(09:17:48) (Cheryl) lol, Roz
(09:18:47) (host-Roz) our next study wil be the Secret of theGolden Flower a study of meditation
(09:20:30) (host-Roz) lets center
(09:21:01) (host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:21:18) (host-Roz) Amen
(09:21:20) (Cheryl) Amen
(09:21:21) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:21:26) (Cris) Amen
(09:21:28) (Lory) Amen
(09:21:34) (kazu) amen
(09:21:34) (merri) Amen
(09:21:34) (azure) amen
(09:21:49) (Bill) Amen
(09:22:06) (host-Roz) we are going to back up a bit and review unless of course everyone has this nailed
(09:22:33) (Cheryl) k, Roz-hostess
(09:22:45) (host-Roz) Q—8. What is meant by a new heaven and a new earth”?
(09:23:14) (merri) awakening consciousness
(09:23:17) (host-Roz) A-8. Former things have passed away, when there is beheld within self that the whole will of the Creator, the Father, the place of abode, the forces within and without, make for the. new heaven, the new earth. (281—16)
(09:23:18) (merri) ?
(09:23:38) (host-Roz) yes Merri exackle
(09:24:24) (host-Roz) Q-5. In Rev. 21:1 — What is the meaning of a new heaven and a new earth:for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea?
(09:24:56) (Cheryl) Man's launch into space, lol
(09:25:07) (host-Roz) A-5. When the foundations of the earth are broken up by those very disturbances. Can the mind of man comprehend no desire to sin, no purpose but that the glory of the Son may be manifested in his life? Is this not a new heaven, a new earth? For the former things would have passed away. For as the desires, the purposes, the aims are to bring about the whole change physically, so does it create in the experience of each soul a new vision, a new comprehensi
(09:25:40) (host-Roz) yup Cheryl
(09:26:15) (host-Roz) For as has been given it hath not entered the heart of man to know the glories that have been prepared, that are a part of the experiences of those that love ONLY the Lord and His ways.
(09:26:56) (host-Roz) Q6 Please explain 2nd thru ~4th verse of Chapter 21 — the new Jerusalem and no more death.
(09:27:33) (host-Roz) A-6. Those then that are come into the new life, the new understanding, the new regeneration, there IS then the new Jerusalem. For as has been given, the place is not as a place alone but as a condition, as an experience of the soul.
(09:28:39) (host-Roz) Jerusalem has figuratively, symbolically, meant the holy place, the holy city—— for there, the ark of the covenant, the ark of the covenant in the minds, the hearts, the understandings, the comprehensions of those who have put away the earthly desires and become as the NEW purposes in their experience, become the new Jerusalem, the new undertakings, the new desires.
(09:30:20) (host-Roz) Q-7. What is meant by the second death in Rev. 21—8?
(09:31:21) (host-Roz) A-7. Those that have passed into the understanding and then fall away, be come minded of the earthly desires for self—exaltation, know the second death.
(09:31:55) (Cheryl) ouch, Roz, that doesn't sound like any fun. :-(
(09:32:09) (host-Roz) no for sure Cheryl
(09:32:15) (host-Roz) -8. What is meant by the Holy Jerusalem Rev. 21—12?
(09:32:30) (host-Roz) redunant perhaps?
(09:33:07) (host-Roz) -8 As indicated that purpose, that estate to which there is the attaining, shall be that happy land
(09:33:38) (host-Roz) Q-9. What is meant by the 12 gates?
(09:34:12) (Cris) The twelve apostles and twelve tribes?
(09:34:13) (host-Roz) -9. The twelve manners, the twelve ways, the twelve openings, the twelve experiences of the physical to all, and those that have all been purified in purpose for the activities with same.
(09:34:33) (host-Roz) and that too Cheryl
(09:35:04) (host-Roz) Q—1O. What is the significance of the 12 angels?
(09:35:32) (timothy) the tree of life?
(09:35:36) (host-Roz) A-lO. The twelve purposes as represented by the activities of the openings
(09:36:25) (host-Roz) to the bodily forces for their activities in the experiences of expression In the phases of the activities of the individual.
(09:37:07) (host-Roz) Q-11. Please explain the 12 names, which represent the 12 tribes of the children of Israel.
(09:37:14) (azure) spiritual centers roz ?
(09:37:38) (Bill) Chakra's?
(09:37:47) (host-Roz) A—11. The same as the twelve gates, the twelve angels, the twelve ways, the twelve understandings; or the approach to ISRAEL, the seeker——all seeking not then as the expression of self but as one in the Holy One!
(09:38:02) (azure) 12...must be the 12 openings of the body
(09:38:10) (host-Roz) yes in some cultures there are 12 Chakras
(09:38:35) (host-Roz) Cayce only gave 7
(09:38:45) (azure) or 12 astrological experiences possibly for experience?
(09:39:11) (Lory) Did he ever explain the difference, Roz?
(09:39:12) (host-Roz) Q—12. Rev. 21—15: Please interpret — What is the golden reed to measure the city? and what is the significance of the stones of the new Jerusalem and their colors?
(09:39:33) (host-Roz) was not asked I dont think Lory
(09:40:15) (host-Roz) A-12. The new understanding, the reed to measure the city, the abilities of each. Not unto all is it given to be ministers, not unto all to be interpreters, not unto all to be this or that; but measured according to that whereunto they have purposed in their hearts. Though all are as one, remember it has been given that the purpose of the heart is to know YOURSELF to BE yourself and yet one with God even as Jesus, even as is represented in God the Father
(09:41:10) (host-Roz) So the measurements for those that make the vibrations within themselves that become attuned to the new purpose, the new desire, the new hopes, the new Revelation, the new understandings to do the will of the Father with the will of that made perfect in the Christ. (281—37)
(09:42:15) (host-Roz) okie we will continue where we left off with the scripture
(09:43:03) (host-Roz) Jewels (6) and (7) are ones of enlightenment. Jewels (5) and (8) have the qualities of righteousness. Jewels (1,.) and (9) signify wisdom. Jewels (3) and (10) are symbolic of striving. Jewels (2) and (11) are ones of purpose. Jewels (1) and (12) denote steadfastness. The pryamid from bottom to top shows the progression made.
(09:44:21) (host-Roz) 21 • AND THE TWELVE GATES WERE ADORNED WITH TWELVE PEARLS ONE FOR EACH OF THE GATES, AND EACH GATE WAS MADE OF A SINGLE PEARL; AND THE GREAT STREET OF THE CITY WAS OF PURE GOLD, AS IT WERE TRANSPARENT GLASS.
(09:45:27) (host-Roz) Pearls are emblematic of beauty, luminosity and growth in consciousness resu1ti~g from the striving to overcome. The oyster produces the pearl to overcome the irritant in his being. We have produced an irritant, disruption in the creational plan by the becoming involved in the evolutionary pattern rather than the director of the evolutionary pattern as we are designed to be. Our pearls we produce within self, pear1s of wisdom, make up the gateway to rede
(09:46:20) (host-Roz) 22. BUT I SAW NO TEMPLE THERE IN, FOR THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT.
(09:46:59) (host-Roz) The temple is not a place but a living force directing the Self.
(09:47:43) (host-Roz) 23. THE CITY HAS NO NEED OF THE SUN, NEITHER OF THE MOON, TO SHINE IN IT, FOR THE GLORY OF GOD BRIGHTENS IT AND THE LAMB IS THE LAMP OF IT.
(09:47:59) (azure) thus, transcendant
(09:48:36) (host-Roz) The ability to serve “the glory of God” is the enlightenment” brightens” and the container of the light,” lamp” is our Christ.
(09:49:35) (host-Roz) 21.. AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SAVED SHALL WALK BY THAT VERY LIGHT; AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH SHALL BRING THEIR OWN GLORY AND THE HONOR OF THE PEOPLES INTO IT.
(09:50:18) (host-Roz) Having experienced enlightenment “the peoples who have been saved shall walk by that very light” the desire to continue in it in all phases of experience is stronger than all other urges. We measure all service and honor by the light “kings of the earth shall bring their own glory and the honor of the peoples into it”.
(09:51:04) (host-Roz) 25. AND THE GATES OF IT SHALL NOT BE BARRED BY DAY, FOR THERE IS NO NIGHT THERE.
(09:51:38) (host-Roz) The guidance and direction are ever available.
(09:52:22) (host-Roz) We can only bring our ability to serve “glory” and our moral purity “honor” into this state of enlightenment
(09:53:06) (host-Roz) AND THERE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO IT ANYTHING WHICH DEFILES NOR HE WHO WORKS ABOMIN’ATIONS AND LIES; ONLY THOSE SHALL ENTER WHOSE NAMES ARE WRITTEN IN THE LAMB’ S BOOK OF LIFE.
(09:53:43) (host-Roz) We cannot enter fully as long as there is within us that which defiles. Only in the state in which only God manifests in our lives do we fully participate.
(09:54:42) (ernie) fully comitted pure faith
(09:54:54) (host-Roz) next week we will begin the study of Chapter 22
(09:55:12) (Cheryl) Thank you, Roz, have to go. Be Thou Blessed, Each & Everyone... Good-Night!!
(09:55:15) (Lory) Thank you Roz.
(09:55:28) (Sophia) thank u Roz .... nite cheryl
(09:55:39) (Andrew) thanks Roz :)
(09:55:40) (azure) thanks again roz
(09:55:40) (host-Roz) you are so welcome Lory
(09:58:13) (host-Roz) it is now open chat
(09:58:30) (merri) TY Roz
(09:58:39) (Sophia) ty roz
(09:58:41) (Roz) yw Merri
(09:58:47) (WalksInSpirit) thanks Roz!
(09:58:52) (Cris) I appreciate the lesson Roz
(09:59:00) (Roz) yw Sophia, Wis and for greeting
(09:59:14) (Roz) Blessings Cris
(09:59:23) (WalksInSpirit) You're welcome, Roz!
(09:59:39) (BlackWolf) Thanks for your wisdom Roz :o)
(09:59:55) (Roz) and for yours BlackWolf
(10:00:06) (Shelly) ty Roz, and good night everyone
