Post by WalksInSpirit on Jun 25, 2006 21:29:51 GMT -5
The Secret Of The Book Of Enoch: 06-25-06
(09:27:59) (Host-Roz) lets center shall we
(09:28:37) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:28:46) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:28:51) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:00) (Sandy) Amen
(09:29:02) (Lory) Amen
(09:29:05) (merri) Amen
(09:29:09) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:07) (Host-Roz) ; Chapter 42 1.Wisdom found not a place on earth where she could inhabit her dwelling therefore is in heaven.
(09:31:45) (Host-Roz) 2.Wisdom went forth to dwell among the sons of men, but she obtained not an habitation. Wisdom returned to her place, and seated herself in the midst of the angels. But iniquity went forth~ after her return, who unwillingly found am habitation, and resided among them, as rain in the desert, and as a dew in a thirsty land.
(09:32:37) (Host-Roz) The reward of old age is Wisdom
(09:32:49) (Sandy) and squeaky joints
(09:32:54) (Host-Roz) should be some rewards?
(09:32:56) (Lory) Then I must be very wise. lol
(09:33:01) (Sandy) lol
(09:33:02) (Host-Roz) yup Sandy
(09:33:20) (Sandy) hey, I've got two knees that let me know when they are tired
(09:33:21) (Host-Roz) well you really are Lory
(09:33:24) (Cris) yes you are Lory
(09:33:58) (Lory) Hardly. There is still so much to learn
(09:34:21) (merri) it is also a time when your skin decides to go south!
(09:34:29) (Host-Roz) 1. I beheld another splendour, and the stars of heaven. I observed that he called them all by their respective names, and that they heard. In a righteous balance I saw that he weighed out with their light the amplitude of their places, and the day of their appearance,’ and their conversion. Splendour produced splendour; and their conversion was into the number of the angels, and of the faithful.
(09:34:34) (Sandy) oh, yes
(09:34:54) (Lory) Gravity, merri, Gravity. :-)
(09:35:23) (Host-Roz) 2.Then I inquired of the angel, who proceeded with me, and explained to me secret things, what their names were. He answered; A similitude of those has the Lord of spirits shown thee. They are names of the righteous who dwell upon earth, and who believe in the name of the Lord.
(09:36:21) (Host-Roz) 5.After this I perceived, that the path both concealed and manifest of the moon, as well as the progress of its path, was there completed by day and by night; while each, one with another, looked towards the Lord of spirits, magnifying and praising without cessation, since praise to them is rest; for in the splendid sun there is a frequent conversion to blessing and to malediction.
(09:37:17) (Host-Roz) 6.The course of the moon’s path to the righteous is light, but to sinners it is darkness; in the name of the Lord of spirits, who created a division between light and darkness, and, separating the spirits of men, strengthened the spirits of the righteous in the name of his own righteousness.
(09:38:14) (Host-Roz) 7Nor does the angel prevent this, neither is he endowed with the power of preventing it; for the Judge beholds them all, and judges them all in his own presence.
(09:39:08) (Host-Roz) CHAP. XXIII.
(09:39:50) (Host-Roz) it really is chapter 43
(09:39:57) (Host-Roz) 1. I beheld another splendour, and the stars of heaven. I observed that he called them all by their respective names, and that they heard. In a righteous balance I saw that he weighed out with their light the amplitude of their places, and the day •f their appearance,’ and their conversion. Splendour produced splendour; and their conversion was into the number of the angels, and of the faithful.
(09:40:25) (Host-Roz) some repetition here
(09:41:42) (Host-Roz) cornfusion !!lol
(09:41:47) (Host-Roz) 1. Parable the second, respecting these who deny the name of the habitation of the holy ones,
(09:42:31) (Host-Roz) Heaven they shall not ascend, nor shall they come on the earth. This shall be the portion of sinners, who deny the name of the Lord of spirits, and who are thus reserved for the day of punishment and of affliction
(09:43:23) (Host-Roz) 3.In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory; and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations (while their spirits within them shall be strengthened, when they behold my Elect One), shall choose them for those who have fled for protection to my holy and glorious name.
(09:44:20) (Host-Roz) 4.In that day I will cause my Elect One to dwell in the midst of them; will change the face of
(09:45:05) (Host-Roz) heaven; will bless it, and illuminate it forever.
(09:46:22) (Host-Roz) 5. I will also change the face of the earth; will bless it; and cause those whom I have elected to dwell upon it. But those who have committed sin and iniquity shall not inhabit it, for I have marked their proceedings. My righteous ones will I satisfy with peace, placing them before me; but the condemnation of sinners shall draw near, that I may destroy them from the face of the earth.
(09:47:19) (Host-Roz) supose he is talking about the 1000 yrs of peace on the earth
(09:48:05) (Host-Roz) 1. There I beheld the Ancient of days, whose head was like white wool, and with him another, whose countenance resembled that of man. His countenance was full of grace, like that of one of the holy angels. Then I inquired of one of the angels, who went with me, and who showed me every secret thing, concerning this Son of man; who he was; whence he was; and why he accompanied the Ancient of days.
(09:48:52) (Host-Roz) 2. He answered and said to me, This is the Son of man, to whom righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwelt; and who will reveal all the treasures of that which is concealed: for the Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) When the Blessed Holy One is aroused to delight Himself with the righteous, the Face of the Ancient of Days shines into the face of the Impatient One. Its Forehead is revealed and shines to this forehead. Then it is called 'a time of favor' (Psalms 69:14). Whenever Judgment looms and the forehead of the Impatient One is revealed, the Forehead of the Ancient of Ancients is revealed; Judgment subsides and is not executed."
(09:50:40) (Host-Roz) The term Ancient of Days originates in the Old Testment Book by the Prophet Daniel (7:9, 13, 22):
(09:51:25) (merri) Why would Jesus be referred to as the Son of Man?
(09:52:08) (Host-Roz) He refered to himself as the son of Man
(09:52:20) (Host-Roz) 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
(09:52:26) (mark) sun of man
(09:52:40) (Host-Roz) yes Mark
(09:53:15) (Host-Roz) 7:13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him, and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
(09:54:20) (Host-Roz) the Ancient of Days is the unmanifested God Head as I understand it
(09:55:42) (Host-Roz) 7:21-22 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them, until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the Saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. And it is from here that the Deity representing the first person of the Holy Trinity is derived.
(09:56:38) (Host-Roz) But it is clear that the most powerful effect of this particular Name of God stems from the Jewish mystical Kaballah, a document that stems from 13th century Spain. In the Kaballah there is mention of the Ancient of Ancients, also interpreted as En S of or the unmanifested God.
(09:57:36) (Host-Roz) The Ancient of Days is the manifestation of the Ancient of Ancients in space and time. The Kaballah goes into great detail describing the White Head of God and ultimately the emanation of it's personality or attributes.
(09:58:27) (Host-Roz) The tradition holds that originally there were eight attributes or sephirah, but this was later changed to ten because the knowledge of the eight true attributes was deemed too powerful for general consumption. As a result almost all systems of Magick derived from the Kaballah (of which the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians, and Freemason are but a few) are based on this information.
(09:59:57) (Host-Roz) Blessing and honor, glory and powerbe unto the Ancient of DaysFrom every nation, all of creation, bow before the Ancient of Days Every tongue in heaven and earth shall declare your glory Every knee will bow at Your throne in worship, You will be exalted, oh, God and Your kingdom will not pass away,
(10:00:30) (Host-Roz) we'll stop here for this evening
(10:00:31) (mark) Amen
(10:00:45) (Host-Roz) Amen
(10:00:51) (Andrew) Great Chat, Roz ! Amen, too !
(10:01:12) (Cris) Interesting material
(10:01:23) (Host-Roz) questions or comments?
(10:01:25) (merri) what do you think it means "systems of Magick"?
(10:01:39) (merri) secret?
(10:01:40) (Host-Roz) wasnt sure Merri
(10:01:52) (Host-Roz) I assume so
(10:01:53) (merri) magic as we know it?
(10:02:07) (Host-Roz) or as we dont know it
(10:03:10) (Host-Roz) I did a painting of the Ancient of Days, He resides in a dr 's office i nColorado
(10:03:14) (Bill) something to do with rituals and spells
(10:03:29) (WalksInSpirit) Wow, cool, Roz!
(10:03:46) (merri) Kooooool, Roz
(10:03:53) (Andrew) wtg, Roz
(10:04:07) (Cris) I'll bet it is a treat for all who see it
(10:04:11) (Host-Roz) well Rosicrucians an d free masions are a quasi secret Society?
(10:04:36) (Host-Roz) yah I was real fun to do
(10:04:46) (Lory) That is wonderful, Roz. Did you have an inkling as to what it was to look like or did you have a model?
(10:04:46) (Andrew) smile
(10:05:03) (Cris) :o)
(10:05:09) (Host-Roz) I saw him in a vision
(10:05:15) (WalksInSpirit) Wow!
(10:05:21) (Andrew) yes roz. Who sat for the painting ? no holding back now, ya hear ? :)
(10:05:21) (Lory) Oh Wow!
(10:05:25) (Host-Roz) freaked me out
(10:05:34) (Cris) Do you have a print of the painting Roz?
(10:05:48) (Host-Roz) HE did Andrew
(10:05:56) (Host-Roz) yes I have a copy
(10:06:00) (Andrew) yes
(10:06:18) (Andrew) please send on a copy if you would, Roz
(10:06:28) (Cris) I would love to see that
(10:06:29) (merri) could you send us a copy Roz?
(10:06:37) (WalksInSpirit) I'd love to see it, too!
(10:06:39) (mark) please
(10:06:39) (Host-Roz) see if I can did it up Andrew and will
(10:07:04) (Lory) Oh yes, Roz. If it isn't too much trouble....
(10:07:10) (Host-Roz) it was an experience
(10:07:29) (Lory) It must have been. Can you share your feelings?
(10:07:51) (Host-Roz) He may come again now that I have mentioned it
(10:07:52) (Cris) Do you ever feel led to do certain paintings Roz
(10:08:04) (Host-Roz) awed out of my gourd LOory
(10:08:14) (Host-Roz) oh yes Cris
(10:08:40) (mark) thanks for study Roz,..i'll brb
(10:08:53) (Host-Roz) I knew I had to paint him
(10:09:22) (merri) did you see Him in a dream or meditation?
(10:09:36) (Lory) Golly. What an inspiring experience.
(10:16:17) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, Roz! Thank you!
(10:29:08) (Roz) Thanks All for coming Luv ya
(10:29:17) (merri) TY Roz
(10:29:20) (Bill) TY for the Chat Roz
(09:28:37) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:28:46) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:28:51) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:00) (Sandy) Amen
(09:29:02) (Lory) Amen
(09:29:05) (merri) Amen
(09:29:09) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:07) (Host-Roz) ; Chapter 42 1.Wisdom found not a place on earth where she could inhabit her dwelling therefore is in heaven.
(09:31:45) (Host-Roz) 2.Wisdom went forth to dwell among the sons of men, but she obtained not an habitation. Wisdom returned to her place, and seated herself in the midst of the angels. But iniquity went forth~ after her return, who unwillingly found am habitation, and resided among them, as rain in the desert, and as a dew in a thirsty land.
(09:32:37) (Host-Roz) The reward of old age is Wisdom
(09:32:49) (Sandy) and squeaky joints
(09:32:54) (Host-Roz) should be some rewards?
(09:32:56) (Lory) Then I must be very wise. lol
(09:33:01) (Sandy) lol
(09:33:02) (Host-Roz) yup Sandy
(09:33:20) (Sandy) hey, I've got two knees that let me know when they are tired
(09:33:21) (Host-Roz) well you really are Lory
(09:33:24) (Cris) yes you are Lory
(09:33:58) (Lory) Hardly. There is still so much to learn
(09:34:21) (merri) it is also a time when your skin decides to go south!
(09:34:29) (Host-Roz) 1. I beheld another splendour, and the stars of heaven. I observed that he called them all by their respective names, and that they heard. In a righteous balance I saw that he weighed out with their light the amplitude of their places, and the day of their appearance,’ and their conversion. Splendour produced splendour; and their conversion was into the number of the angels, and of the faithful.
(09:34:34) (Sandy) oh, yes
(09:34:54) (Lory) Gravity, merri, Gravity. :-)
(09:35:23) (Host-Roz) 2.Then I inquired of the angel, who proceeded with me, and explained to me secret things, what their names were. He answered; A similitude of those has the Lord of spirits shown thee. They are names of the righteous who dwell upon earth, and who believe in the name of the Lord.
(09:36:21) (Host-Roz) 5.After this I perceived, that the path both concealed and manifest of the moon, as well as the progress of its path, was there completed by day and by night; while each, one with another, looked towards the Lord of spirits, magnifying and praising without cessation, since praise to them is rest; for in the splendid sun there is a frequent conversion to blessing and to malediction.
(09:37:17) (Host-Roz) 6.The course of the moon’s path to the righteous is light, but to sinners it is darkness; in the name of the Lord of spirits, who created a division between light and darkness, and, separating the spirits of men, strengthened the spirits of the righteous in the name of his own righteousness.
(09:38:14) (Host-Roz) 7Nor does the angel prevent this, neither is he endowed with the power of preventing it; for the Judge beholds them all, and judges them all in his own presence.
(09:39:08) (Host-Roz) CHAP. XXIII.
(09:39:50) (Host-Roz) it really is chapter 43
(09:39:57) (Host-Roz) 1. I beheld another splendour, and the stars of heaven. I observed that he called them all by their respective names, and that they heard. In a righteous balance I saw that he weighed out with their light the amplitude of their places, and the day •f their appearance,’ and their conversion. Splendour produced splendour; and their conversion was into the number of the angels, and of the faithful.
(09:40:25) (Host-Roz) some repetition here
(09:41:42) (Host-Roz) cornfusion !!lol
(09:41:47) (Host-Roz) 1. Parable the second, respecting these who deny the name of the habitation of the holy ones,
(09:42:31) (Host-Roz) Heaven they shall not ascend, nor shall they come on the earth. This shall be the portion of sinners, who deny the name of the Lord of spirits, and who are thus reserved for the day of punishment and of affliction
(09:43:23) (Host-Roz) 3.In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory; and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations (while their spirits within them shall be strengthened, when they behold my Elect One), shall choose them for those who have fled for protection to my holy and glorious name.
(09:44:20) (Host-Roz) 4.In that day I will cause my Elect One to dwell in the midst of them; will change the face of
(09:45:05) (Host-Roz) heaven; will bless it, and illuminate it forever.
(09:46:22) (Host-Roz) 5. I will also change the face of the earth; will bless it; and cause those whom I have elected to dwell upon it. But those who have committed sin and iniquity shall not inhabit it, for I have marked their proceedings. My righteous ones will I satisfy with peace, placing them before me; but the condemnation of sinners shall draw near, that I may destroy them from the face of the earth.
(09:47:19) (Host-Roz) supose he is talking about the 1000 yrs of peace on the earth
(09:48:05) (Host-Roz) 1. There I beheld the Ancient of days, whose head was like white wool, and with him another, whose countenance resembled that of man. His countenance was full of grace, like that of one of the holy angels. Then I inquired of one of the angels, who went with me, and who showed me every secret thing, concerning this Son of man; who he was; whence he was; and why he accompanied the Ancient of days.
(09:48:52) (Host-Roz) 2. He answered and said to me, This is the Son of man, to whom righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwelt; and who will reveal all the treasures of that which is concealed: for the Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) When the Blessed Holy One is aroused to delight Himself with the righteous, the Face of the Ancient of Days shines into the face of the Impatient One. Its Forehead is revealed and shines to this forehead. Then it is called 'a time of favor' (Psalms 69:14). Whenever Judgment looms and the forehead of the Impatient One is revealed, the Forehead of the Ancient of Ancients is revealed; Judgment subsides and is not executed."
(09:50:40) (Host-Roz) The term Ancient of Days originates in the Old Testment Book by the Prophet Daniel (7:9, 13, 22):
(09:51:25) (merri) Why would Jesus be referred to as the Son of Man?
(09:52:08) (Host-Roz) He refered to himself as the son of Man
(09:52:20) (Host-Roz) 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
(09:52:26) (mark) sun of man
(09:52:40) (Host-Roz) yes Mark
(09:53:15) (Host-Roz) 7:13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him, and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
(09:54:20) (Host-Roz) the Ancient of Days is the unmanifested God Head as I understand it
(09:55:42) (Host-Roz) 7:21-22 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them, until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the Saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. And it is from here that the Deity representing the first person of the Holy Trinity is derived.
(09:56:38) (Host-Roz) But it is clear that the most powerful effect of this particular Name of God stems from the Jewish mystical Kaballah, a document that stems from 13th century Spain. In the Kaballah there is mention of the Ancient of Ancients, also interpreted as En S of or the unmanifested God.
(09:57:36) (Host-Roz) The Ancient of Days is the manifestation of the Ancient of Ancients in space and time. The Kaballah goes into great detail describing the White Head of God and ultimately the emanation of it's personality or attributes.
(09:58:27) (Host-Roz) The tradition holds that originally there were eight attributes or sephirah, but this was later changed to ten because the knowledge of the eight true attributes was deemed too powerful for general consumption. As a result almost all systems of Magick derived from the Kaballah (of which the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians, and Freemason are but a few) are based on this information.
(09:59:57) (Host-Roz) Blessing and honor, glory and powerbe unto the Ancient of DaysFrom every nation, all of creation, bow before the Ancient of Days Every tongue in heaven and earth shall declare your glory Every knee will bow at Your throne in worship, You will be exalted, oh, God and Your kingdom will not pass away,
(10:00:30) (Host-Roz) we'll stop here for this evening
(10:00:31) (mark) Amen
(10:00:45) (Host-Roz) Amen
(10:00:51) (Andrew) Great Chat, Roz ! Amen, too !
(10:01:12) (Cris) Interesting material
(10:01:23) (Host-Roz) questions or comments?
(10:01:25) (merri) what do you think it means "systems of Magick"?
(10:01:39) (merri) secret?
(10:01:40) (Host-Roz) wasnt sure Merri
(10:01:52) (Host-Roz) I assume so
(10:01:53) (merri) magic as we know it?
(10:02:07) (Host-Roz) or as we dont know it
(10:03:10) (Host-Roz) I did a painting of the Ancient of Days, He resides in a dr 's office i nColorado
(10:03:14) (Bill) something to do with rituals and spells
(10:03:29) (WalksInSpirit) Wow, cool, Roz!
(10:03:46) (merri) Kooooool, Roz
(10:03:53) (Andrew) wtg, Roz
(10:04:07) (Cris) I'll bet it is a treat for all who see it
(10:04:11) (Host-Roz) well Rosicrucians an d free masions are a quasi secret Society?
(10:04:36) (Host-Roz) yah I was real fun to do
(10:04:46) (Lory) That is wonderful, Roz. Did you have an inkling as to what it was to look like or did you have a model?
(10:04:46) (Andrew) smile
(10:05:03) (Cris) :o)
(10:05:09) (Host-Roz) I saw him in a vision
(10:05:15) (WalksInSpirit) Wow!
(10:05:21) (Andrew) yes roz. Who sat for the painting ? no holding back now, ya hear ? :)
(10:05:21) (Lory) Oh Wow!
(10:05:25) (Host-Roz) freaked me out
(10:05:34) (Cris) Do you have a print of the painting Roz?
(10:05:48) (Host-Roz) HE did Andrew
(10:05:56) (Host-Roz) yes I have a copy
(10:06:00) (Andrew) yes
(10:06:18) (Andrew) please send on a copy if you would, Roz
(10:06:28) (Cris) I would love to see that
(10:06:29) (merri) could you send us a copy Roz?
(10:06:37) (WalksInSpirit) I'd love to see it, too!
(10:06:39) (mark) please
(10:06:39) (Host-Roz) see if I can did it up Andrew and will
(10:07:04) (Lory) Oh yes, Roz. If it isn't too much trouble....
(10:07:10) (Host-Roz) it was an experience
(10:07:29) (Lory) It must have been. Can you share your feelings?
(10:07:51) (Host-Roz) He may come again now that I have mentioned it
(10:07:52) (Cris) Do you ever feel led to do certain paintings Roz
(10:08:04) (Host-Roz) awed out of my gourd LOory
(10:08:14) (Host-Roz) oh yes Cris
(10:08:40) (mark) thanks for study Roz,..i'll brb
(10:08:53) (Host-Roz) I knew I had to paint him
(10:09:22) (merri) did you see Him in a dream or meditation?
(10:09:36) (Lory) Golly. What an inspiring experience.
(10:16:17) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, Roz! Thank you!
(10:29:08) (Roz) Thanks All for coming Luv ya
(10:29:17) (merri) TY Roz
(10:29:20) (Bill) TY for the Chat Roz
