Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 30, 2005 22:14:25 GMT -5
"The Short Bible" Study: 10-30-05
Psalms 91 and 150
(09:18:12) (Host-Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God…feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:18:33) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:18:34) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:18:38) (Lory) Amen
(09:18:45) (merri) Amen
(09:18:55) (Cris) Amen
(09:19:01) (One) Amen
(09:19:11) (Zee) So be it, it is done Amen
(09:19:40) (Host-Roz) Psalm 91 was written by David an incarnation of Jesus .Psalm 150, which is the last Psalm has been attributed to being written anonymously
(09:20:19) (One) According to Cayce Jesus was not David.
(09:20:21) (friend_to_mankind) Yes Father let Your Rightgeousness
(09:20:38) (Host-Roz) insights
(09:21:08) (Host-Roz) If there would be more and more coordination of the oneness of all, rather than the differences, how well may “the earth and the fulness therof” be understood by those who know the glory of the Lord through combining these, rather than seeking differences! (1217—1)
(09:22:02) (Host-Roz) Let thy purposes then be grounded in spiritual things. Faint not at material disturbances. For the earth is the Lord’s. Art thou His also? (1828—1)
(09:22:45) (Zee) that scripture is pefect for me right now thanks
(09:22:49) (Host-Roz) HE WHO DWELLS IN THE SHELTER OF THE MOST HIGH, WHO ABIDES IN THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY, WILL SAY TO THE LORD, “MY REFUGE AND MY FORTRESS, MY GOD IN WHOM I TRUST.” FOR HE WILL DELIVER YOU FROM THE SNARE OF THE FOWLER AND FROM THE DEADLY PESTILENCE; HE WILL COVER YOU WITH HIS PINIONS, AND UNDER HIS WINGS YOU WILL FIND REFUGE; HIS FAITHFULNESS IS A SHIELD AND A BUCKLER. YOU WILL NOT FEAR THE TERROR OF THE NIGHT, NOR THE ARROW THAT FLIES BY DAY, NOR THE PES
(09:23:50) (Host-Roz) A THOUSAND MAY FALL AT YOUR SIDE, TEN THOUSAND AT YOUR RIGHT HAND; BUT IT WILL NOT COME NEAR YOU. YOU WILL ONLY LOOK WITH YOUR EYES AND SEE THE RECOMPENSE OF THE WICKED.
(09:24:27) (Lory) NOR THE PESTILENCE THAT WASTES AT NOONDAY......
(09:24:29) (Host-Roz) BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE ~HE LORD YOUR REFUGE, THE MOST HIGH YOUR HABITATION, NO EVIL SHALL BEFALL YOU, NO SCOURGE SHALL COME NEAR YOUR TENT.
(09:27:32) (Host-Roz) BECAUSE HE CLEAVES TO ME IN LOVE, I WILL DELIVER HIM; I WILL PROTECT HIM, BECAUSE HE KNOWS MY NAME. WHEN HE CALLS TO ME, I WILL ANSWER HIM; I WILL BE WITH HIM IN TROUBLE, I WILL RESCUE HIM AND HONOR HIM. WITH LONG LIFE I WILL SATISFY HIM, AND SHOW HIM MY SALVATION. PSALM 91:1—16
(09:28:07) (Host-Roz) the Psalm of great comfort
(09:28:41) (Lory) Roz, are you sure David was an incarnation of Jesus?
(09:28:49) (Qrious) this psalms speaks of the Christ.. it is a way of being fortold.. cause Lucifer stated to Jesus in the desert when being tempted , these sayings.
(09:28:51) (One) No
(09:28:53) (Host-Roz) The Secret Place
(09:29:05) (Host-Roz) my information says it was
(09:29:14) (Zee) That´s what the Cayce materials say Jesus was David and Adam and many others
(09:29:17) (One) What information is that?
(09:29:44) (One) He said he was Adam
(09:29:55) (One) And Enoch
(09:30:05) (Qrious) well.. Adam and Eve were twin spirits.. so maybe David and Asaph was incarnated at the same time.
(09:30:32) (Host-Roz) yes Qrious
(09:30:43) (One) That was a different time when the Sons of God were separated into male and female.
(09:30:53) (Qrious) male / female aspects.
(09:30:58) (One) They were twin souls yes Adam and Eve.
(09:31:24) (Host-Roz) QQ. Please explain what is meant by the secret place of the Most High.
(09:31:57) (Zee) why should the young lion be stepped on I don´t believe in cruelty to animals what is the symbolic meaning please
(09:32:30) (Host-Roz) have no fear for your footsteps
(09:32:36) (Host-Roz) A. In understanding the secret place of the Most High, let’s determine what in the seeker is being sought; whether the knowledge of the interpretation of the Most High’s manifestation to men, or that as determines the relationship of that manifested to the Most High; for as in the secret chamber of one’s own heart are stored that that makes for the real activities of that soul—consciousness, so is the Holy of Holies where one meets with that they worship
(09:32:40) (Qrious) Could be the place mentioned as Zion.
(09:32:47) (One) The Third Eye.
(09:32:54) (Zee) I think the secret place of the most high is hidden in his will thy will be done if we ask anything according to his will it will be done the Bible says
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz) Empty thy minds, Empty thy hearts of all that thou hast held that is of a secular nature if ye would know the true knowledge of thy God.
(09:34:15) (Host-Roz) For as ye hold to those things, to those conditions, to those experiences, yea to those ideas that have formed concepts that ye should not do this, ye should do that, ye should make this, ye should lend that, these are but barriers if ye would know the true knowledge of WHY, of HOW thy brother, thy Lord, thy Master, came into the earth; and what he would have thee do with that which may be poured out to thee in thy seeking.
(09:34:15) (Host-Roz) For as ye hold to those things, to those conditions, to those experiences, yea to those ideas that have formed concepts that ye should not do this, ye should do that, ye should make this, ye should lend that, these are but barriers if ye would know the true knowledge of WHY, of HOW thy brother, thy Lord, thy Master, came into the earth; and what he would have thee do with that which may be poured out to thee in thy seeking.
(09:35:04) (Host-Roz) For as has been said of old, if the Lord be with one He shall put ten thousand to flight.
(09:35:41) (Zee) alll the shoulds sound like the law and we are freed from the law
(09:35:59) (Host-Roz) it is a choice Zee
(09:36:36) (One) One is only freed from the Law when they Become It.
(09:36:43) (Host-Roz) He came to fullfill theLaw
(09:36:53) (Bill) yes ONe , one with the law
(09:36:53) (Zee) and it says that all those shoulds are barriers I think we have to look to guidance in each individual situation instead of following blanket laws
(09:37:13) (One) One may be freed from their karma if they love all as if they Are A Child of Gods.
(09:37:21) (Host-Roz) The tree that is of knowledge is before thee. Thy choice in the heart of each is to be made. (262—96)
(09:37:27) (One) Then thery may Receive His Grace.
(09:37:33) (Qrious) well.. Zee.. in finding His will.. we have to let go of all we cling to .. even Ideas or a formulation of what reality is.. to listen to the hows and whys.. therefore not creating bounderies.
(09:37:37) (Zee) Paul says all things are lawful unto me but not all things are expedient I think the new law is love
(09:37:48) (One) Otherwise you are bound to your karma and freed of nothing.
(09:38:18) (Zee) I gave my karma to Jesus
(09:38:27) (Qrious) Paul also said .. that before he learned the law.. he was a law unto himself Zee.. till he learned he was under law.
(09:38:47) (Host-Roz) “HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER YOU”
(09:38:51) (One) Only in loving all as if they are a Creation of Gods can you give your loadto Christ.
(09:39:00) (Zee) well you see it as you like I think I need to approach each situatuion with love looking for Gods guidance and not rely on law
(09:39:06) (One) Otherwise this cannot be done.
(09:39:23) (One) The Two Are One.
(09:39:31) (One) God Is Law and Love.
(09:39:37) (Qrious) hey Zee.. to each his own.. peace brah.
(09:39:38) (Host-Roz) . Rather as indicated, that self was warring with self as to the associations and relations of the body, as respecting its physical, mental and spiritual self. Keep self ~surrounded by those influences that may be had in Him, and only as He would have thee be used; for, as He has given, “I wil1~ not leave thee comfortless,” and “I will give my angels charge concerning thee,~’ and “Will ye be my people I will be your God.” The face of the self’s own angel
(09:40:34) (Host-Roz) .they that seek strange gods, strange forces, do so oft to their own undoing. Hence.. . let this mind be in you that was in Him, that the Father—God is ever present and has given His angels charge concerning thee rather than those (influences) that may be of thine own making. And His Spirit will bear witness with thy spirit whether ye be in that realm where the material, the mental or the spiritual application may be made of that THOU experienceth in the
(09:40:46) (Bill) Zee the laws are set in place to guide us in expressing our free will as to bring us to God and recognize our poorer choices
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) A. Each soul has been given; we have given that each soul has an individual guide. But the more often does such rise or develop by the choosing. As has been given, “There is set before thee life and death, good and evil —— choose thou.” But it is just as true, “HIS ANGELS HAVE BEEN GIVEN CHARGE CONCERNING THEE”. . .Here words fail to express the tone, the tenor or the color that each would convey. But that there is the ability within self to contact as h
(09:42:12) (Zee) His spirit beareth witness with my spirit and I am content
(09:42:52) (Host-Roz) But that there is the ability within self to contact as high a soul as is sought, by will, by desire, by the use of that attained for this soul, for this entity to reach into the cosmic or the universal sources for its supply, for its needs, for its desires.
(09:43:04) (Bill) Roz i think your posts are getting cut off?
(09:43:27) (One) Yes....there are allot of rectangular boxes.
(09:43:33) (Host-Roz) where did it cut off Bill
(09:43:36) (Qrious) I really think it was refering to Jesus.. scriptually.. as to the charge and the dashing of feet.. thats when Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the lord thy God.
(09:43:36) (Qrious) I really think it was refering to Jesus.. scriptually.. as to the charge and the dashing of feet.. thats when Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the lord thy God.
(09:43:56) (Bill) the third to last post and sec. to last
(09:44:33) (Lory) But that there is the ability within self to contact as h........................
(09:44:36) (Host-Roz) as He has given, “I wil1~ not leave thee comfortless,” and “I will give my angels charge concerning thee,~’ and “Will ye be my people I will be your God.” The face of the self’s own angel is ever before the throne.
(09:45:32) (Eileen) thanks, Roz
(09:45:49) (Bill) But that there is the ability within self to contact as h
(09:46:54) (One) There is the ability, latent maybe, to even Become As He Did.
(09:47:06) (One) A Manifestation of His Holy Spirit.
(09:48:06) (Host-Roz) ”. . .Here words fail to express the tone, the tenor or the color that each would convey. But that there is the ability within self to contact as high a soul as is sought, by will, by desire, by the use of that attained for this soul, for this entity to reach into the cosmic or the universal sources for its supply, for its needs, for its desires.
(09:48:45) (Eileen) thanks, Roz
(09:48:50) (Lory) It was the post before that one, Roz.
(09:48:54) (Qrious) this psalm follows Luke 4:9
(09:48:56) (Host-Roz) yw Eileen
(09:49:09) (Host-Roz) thanks Qrious
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) any more discussion of Psalm 91
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) okie Lory thanks
(09:49:55) (Zee) It seems to me a promise
(09:50:08) (Zee) that can be claimed and I am grateful for it thank you Roz
(09:50:38) (Host-Roz) And His Spirit will bear witness with thy spirit whether ye be in that realm where the material, the mental or the spiritual application may be made of that THOU experienceth in the mysteries of thine inner self.
(09:50:43) (Zee) and I have proven it true
(09:51:34) (Host-Roz) . Know, as He has given, that He will give His angels charge concerning thee and will bear thee up. Let that faith, that trust, which has sustained thee in the present, keep thee from fear of any kind. Not that precaution is not to be taken, for that’s what railings are built for! Hold to them, but don’t trust them. Trust in the Lord who giveth man judgment and the abilities to those to prepare such! (5108—1)
(09:52:16) (Zee) in other words with faith and action use common sense seems to me
(09:52:30) (Lory) Wow, what truth in that last post, Roz.
(09:53:35) (Zee) that really speaks to me in the life I´m presently living such reassurance
(09:53:43) (Host-Roz) Psalm 150 the last of the Psalms attributed to anonymous
(09:54:48) (Qrious) Ezekiel 18:3.. .. for every living soul belongs to me...
(09:55:12) (friend_to_mankind) right track
(09:55:46) (Host-Roz) PRAISE THE LORD! PRAISE GOD IN HIS SANCTUARY; PRAISE HIM IN HIS MIGHTY FIRMAMENT! PRAISE HIM FOR HIS MIGHTY DEEDS; PRAISE HIM ACCORDING TO HIS EXCEEDING GREATNESS!
(09:56:18) (Zee) The Lord is exalted power released in the praises of his people
(09:56:54) (Host-Roz) PRAISE HIM WITH TRUMPET SOUND; PRAISE HIM WITH LUTE AND HARP! PRAISE HIM WITH TIMBREL AND DANCE; PRAISE HIM WITH STRINGS AND PIPE! PRAISE HIM WITH SOUNDING CYMBALS; PRAISE HIM WITH LOUD CLASHING CYMBALS! LET EVERYTHING THAT BREATHES PRAISE THE LORD! PRAISE THE LORD! PSALM 150:1—6
(09:57:14) (Zee) thats been proven also if we praise God for what we want to recieve as if we already had it lo, there it is
(09:57:23) (Qrious) reminds me of Footloose.. lol.
(09:57:42) (Host-Roz) In only one reading, and that in the context of a Bible study recommendation, do we find an insight, or interpretation, from Edgar Cayce on how —— or why —-Psalm 150 should be read.
(09:58:17) (LightBearerHelen) that's so very difficult, Zee...
(09:58:31) (LightBearerHelen) But I believe it to be true.
(09:58:38) (Zee) many things are difficult but we can do them life is difficult
(09:59:12) (Lory) Life is difficult only if we make it so.(09:59:30) (Zee) Jesus said when ye stand praying believe that you have thats present tensee and you will recieve it
(09:59:35) (Qrious) The high priests used to bless God.. it is written.. but you'll have to find it.
(09:59:47) (Host-Roz) Rather turn ye to these: In the 30th of Deuteronomy FIND what is told thee ——THEE —— to do! Turn again to that as found in the 150th Psalm, and give praise that He, thy Lord, thy God, has entrusted to thee that way, that belief innate in thy purposes.
(09:59:52) (One) Probably depends upon the prayer.
(09:59:57) (Bill) if you ask for wanting thats what you get wanting if it something you need ask and believe that it has aready been granted
(10:00:04) (sammie) where is that quote Zee?
(10:00:11) (One) Gods answer is not always yes.
(10:00:12) (Host-Roz) so right Bill
(10:00:14) (Zee) well, I had an easy life, and I chose challenge so I make it so and I´m thankful for so many chances to grow instead of lying on a bed of ease
(10:00:23) (LightBearerHelen) good point, One.
(10:00:28) (One) He knoiws your nedds before you ask of them.
(10:00:41) (Bill) but its always what we need One
(10:00:48) (Qrious) Gods answer is .. if it is in my Will. lol One.
(10:00:57) (Host-Roz) Then turn to the 1~4th, 15th, 16th, and 11th of St. John, and know that He speaks again with thee —— and that in thine own heart, in thine own mind will come that peace of the way chosen —— that leadeth to life everlasting, to JOY that knows no confines, to peace that passeth understanding! (262—121)
(10:00:57) (One) Why should one try to0 tell God what they need....at least if it is of a material nature.
(10:01:34) (Zee) who said material nature
(10:01:38) (Qrious) he knows your needs before you ask them One.. true.. but he still wants you to ask.
(10:01:47) (One) I was clarifying.
(10:02:10) (Host-Roz) we need to put into concrete form in prayer
(10:02:12) (One) Yes, but for bthose things of a nature which will bring you closer to Him.
(10:02:25) (Zee) he asked us to pray the father to send laborers into the harvest god tells us to pray for our leaders God asked for intercessors
(10:02:27) (Bill) i never converse here with the material in mind i come here for spiritual food
(10:02:36) (Host-Roz) any updates or additions to theprayer List?
(10:02:37) (One) Such as asking to be nothing but a Manifestation of His Will.
(10:03:02) (Qrious) its simple.. Gods in control.. lets leave it at that.
(10:03:17) (Zee) then why did Jesus ask us to pray
(10:03:41) (One) He's in control of you if you allow Him To be. He is controll of your life regardless.
(10:03:43) (Zee) and we are asked to pray without ceasing God asks us to
(10:03:54) (Qrious) He said of the harvest Zee.. that the laborers are few.. true.. and the seed is planted.. but the increase is from Him.
(10:04:15) (LightBearerHelen) ...The prayer list, Roz?
(10:04:19) (Lory) Terrific clarification, Roz, thank you very much.
(10:04:21) (Bill) Q we have complete control it our choice as to whether or not we wish to do God's will
(10:04:24) (Zee) and he said pray that the lord of the harvest will send forth workers
(10:04:40) (One) Yes Bill.
(10:04:59) (Qrious) Praying is asking Zee.. meditation is awaiting an answer.
(10:05:17) (Host-Roz) Next week we will begin studying Life of Jesus
(10:05:21) (Qrious) that is why Joshua said to choose ye this day Bill..
(10:05:23) (sammie) ditto Q. It works.
(10:05:33) (Bill) Q asking or giving thanks for the treasures we recieve daily
(10:06:16) (One) As Cayce gave, "Repentance is then, "Not my will be done O Lord, but Your Will be done, in me, through me." Kind of a bottom line thing as to what repentance is.
(10:06:36) (Qrious) Bill.. asking and giving thanks.. is a plus.. I agree.
(10:11:28) (Host-Roz) It is now open chat
(10:11:42) (LightBearerHelen) Thank you Roz for tonight's lesson. :)
(10:11:49) (Qrious) Thankyou for the Chat Roz.. it was stimulating.
(10:11:52) (sammie) nice goin' Roz.
(10:12:11) (Roz) you are most welcome Helen come often
(10:12:17) (Cris) Blessings all - Thanks Roz
(10:12:50) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks for a great study, Roz!
(10:12:59) (Roz) Thank all of you for coming and participating
(10:13:11) (BlackWolf) Thank you Roz; Blessings Cris and LightBearerHelen
(10:13:25) (Bill) good material Roz
(10:13:37) (Roz) Thanks Bill
(10:14:04) (Roz) Krajenke is an old friend
(09:18:33) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:18:34) (Host-Roz) Amen
(09:18:38) (Lory) Amen
(09:18:45) (merri) Amen
(09:18:55) (Cris) Amen
(09:19:01) (One) Amen
(09:19:11) (Zee) So be it, it is done Amen
(09:19:40) (Host-Roz) Psalm 91 was written by David an incarnation of Jesus .Psalm 150, which is the last Psalm has been attributed to being written anonymously
(09:20:19) (One) According to Cayce Jesus was not David.
(09:20:21) (friend_to_mankind) Yes Father let Your Rightgeousness
(09:20:38) (Host-Roz) insights
(09:21:08) (Host-Roz) If there would be more and more coordination of the oneness of all, rather than the differences, how well may “the earth and the fulness therof” be understood by those who know the glory of the Lord through combining these, rather than seeking differences! (1217—1)
(09:22:02) (Host-Roz) Let thy purposes then be grounded in spiritual things. Faint not at material disturbances. For the earth is the Lord’s. Art thou His also? (1828—1)
(09:22:45) (Zee) that scripture is pefect for me right now thanks
(09:22:49) (Host-Roz) HE WHO DWELLS IN THE SHELTER OF THE MOST HIGH, WHO ABIDES IN THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY, WILL SAY TO THE LORD, “MY REFUGE AND MY FORTRESS, MY GOD IN WHOM I TRUST.” FOR HE WILL DELIVER YOU FROM THE SNARE OF THE FOWLER AND FROM THE DEADLY PESTILENCE; HE WILL COVER YOU WITH HIS PINIONS, AND UNDER HIS WINGS YOU WILL FIND REFUGE; HIS FAITHFULNESS IS A SHIELD AND A BUCKLER. YOU WILL NOT FEAR THE TERROR OF THE NIGHT, NOR THE ARROW THAT FLIES BY DAY, NOR THE PES
(09:23:50) (Host-Roz) A THOUSAND MAY FALL AT YOUR SIDE, TEN THOUSAND AT YOUR RIGHT HAND; BUT IT WILL NOT COME NEAR YOU. YOU WILL ONLY LOOK WITH YOUR EYES AND SEE THE RECOMPENSE OF THE WICKED.
(09:24:27) (Lory) NOR THE PESTILENCE THAT WASTES AT NOONDAY......
(09:24:29) (Host-Roz) BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE ~HE LORD YOUR REFUGE, THE MOST HIGH YOUR HABITATION, NO EVIL SHALL BEFALL YOU, NO SCOURGE SHALL COME NEAR YOUR TENT.
(09:27:32) (Host-Roz) BECAUSE HE CLEAVES TO ME IN LOVE, I WILL DELIVER HIM; I WILL PROTECT HIM, BECAUSE HE KNOWS MY NAME. WHEN HE CALLS TO ME, I WILL ANSWER HIM; I WILL BE WITH HIM IN TROUBLE, I WILL RESCUE HIM AND HONOR HIM. WITH LONG LIFE I WILL SATISFY HIM, AND SHOW HIM MY SALVATION. PSALM 91:1—16
(09:28:07) (Host-Roz) the Psalm of great comfort
(09:28:41) (Lory) Roz, are you sure David was an incarnation of Jesus?
(09:28:49) (Qrious) this psalms speaks of the Christ.. it is a way of being fortold.. cause Lucifer stated to Jesus in the desert when being tempted , these sayings.
(09:28:51) (One) No
(09:28:53) (Host-Roz) The Secret Place
(09:29:05) (Host-Roz) my information says it was
(09:29:14) (Zee) That´s what the Cayce materials say Jesus was David and Adam and many others
(09:29:17) (One) What information is that?
(09:29:44) (One) He said he was Adam
(09:29:55) (One) And Enoch
(09:30:05) (Qrious) well.. Adam and Eve were twin spirits.. so maybe David and Asaph was incarnated at the same time.
(09:30:32) (Host-Roz) yes Qrious
(09:30:43) (One) That was a different time when the Sons of God were separated into male and female.
(09:30:53) (Qrious) male / female aspects.
(09:30:58) (One) They were twin souls yes Adam and Eve.
(09:31:24) (Host-Roz) QQ. Please explain what is meant by the secret place of the Most High.
(09:31:57) (Zee) why should the young lion be stepped on I don´t believe in cruelty to animals what is the symbolic meaning please
(09:32:30) (Host-Roz) have no fear for your footsteps
(09:32:36) (Host-Roz) A. In understanding the secret place of the Most High, let’s determine what in the seeker is being sought; whether the knowledge of the interpretation of the Most High’s manifestation to men, or that as determines the relationship of that manifested to the Most High; for as in the secret chamber of one’s own heart are stored that that makes for the real activities of that soul—consciousness, so is the Holy of Holies where one meets with that they worship
(09:32:40) (Qrious) Could be the place mentioned as Zion.
(09:32:47) (One) The Third Eye.
(09:32:54) (Zee) I think the secret place of the most high is hidden in his will thy will be done if we ask anything according to his will it will be done the Bible says
(09:33:35) (Host-Roz) Empty thy minds, Empty thy hearts of all that thou hast held that is of a secular nature if ye would know the true knowledge of thy God.
(09:34:15) (Host-Roz) For as ye hold to those things, to those conditions, to those experiences, yea to those ideas that have formed concepts that ye should not do this, ye should do that, ye should make this, ye should lend that, these are but barriers if ye would know the true knowledge of WHY, of HOW thy brother, thy Lord, thy Master, came into the earth; and what he would have thee do with that which may be poured out to thee in thy seeking.
(09:34:15) (Host-Roz) For as ye hold to those things, to those conditions, to those experiences, yea to those ideas that have formed concepts that ye should not do this, ye should do that, ye should make this, ye should lend that, these are but barriers if ye would know the true knowledge of WHY, of HOW thy brother, thy Lord, thy Master, came into the earth; and what he would have thee do with that which may be poured out to thee in thy seeking.
(09:35:04) (Host-Roz) For as has been said of old, if the Lord be with one He shall put ten thousand to flight.
(09:35:41) (Zee) alll the shoulds sound like the law and we are freed from the law
(09:35:59) (Host-Roz) it is a choice Zee
(09:36:36) (One) One is only freed from the Law when they Become It.
(09:36:43) (Host-Roz) He came to fullfill theLaw
(09:36:53) (Bill) yes ONe , one with the law
(09:36:53) (Zee) and it says that all those shoulds are barriers I think we have to look to guidance in each individual situation instead of following blanket laws
(09:37:13) (One) One may be freed from their karma if they love all as if they Are A Child of Gods.
(09:37:21) (Host-Roz) The tree that is of knowledge is before thee. Thy choice in the heart of each is to be made. (262—96)
(09:37:27) (One) Then thery may Receive His Grace.
(09:37:33) (Qrious) well.. Zee.. in finding His will.. we have to let go of all we cling to .. even Ideas or a formulation of what reality is.. to listen to the hows and whys.. therefore not creating bounderies.
(09:37:37) (Zee) Paul says all things are lawful unto me but not all things are expedient I think the new law is love
(09:37:48) (One) Otherwise you are bound to your karma and freed of nothing.
(09:38:18) (Zee) I gave my karma to Jesus
(09:38:27) (Qrious) Paul also said .. that before he learned the law.. he was a law unto himself Zee.. till he learned he was under law.
(09:38:47) (Host-Roz) “HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER YOU”
(09:38:51) (One) Only in loving all as if they are a Creation of Gods can you give your loadto Christ.
(09:39:00) (Zee) well you see it as you like I think I need to approach each situatuion with love looking for Gods guidance and not rely on law
(09:39:06) (One) Otherwise this cannot be done.
(09:39:23) (One) The Two Are One.
(09:39:31) (One) God Is Law and Love.
(09:39:37) (Qrious) hey Zee.. to each his own.. peace brah.
(09:39:38) (Host-Roz) . Rather as indicated, that self was warring with self as to the associations and relations of the body, as respecting its physical, mental and spiritual self. Keep self ~surrounded by those influences that may be had in Him, and only as He would have thee be used; for, as He has given, “I wil1~ not leave thee comfortless,” and “I will give my angels charge concerning thee,~’ and “Will ye be my people I will be your God.” The face of the self’s own angel
(09:40:34) (Host-Roz) .they that seek strange gods, strange forces, do so oft to their own undoing. Hence.. . let this mind be in you that was in Him, that the Father—God is ever present and has given His angels charge concerning thee rather than those (influences) that may be of thine own making. And His Spirit will bear witness with thy spirit whether ye be in that realm where the material, the mental or the spiritual application may be made of that THOU experienceth in the
(09:40:46) (Bill) Zee the laws are set in place to guide us in expressing our free will as to bring us to God and recognize our poorer choices
(09:41:32) (Host-Roz) A. Each soul has been given; we have given that each soul has an individual guide. But the more often does such rise or develop by the choosing. As has been given, “There is set before thee life and death, good and evil —— choose thou.” But it is just as true, “HIS ANGELS HAVE BEEN GIVEN CHARGE CONCERNING THEE”. . .Here words fail to express the tone, the tenor or the color that each would convey. But that there is the ability within self to contact as h
(09:42:12) (Zee) His spirit beareth witness with my spirit and I am content
(09:42:52) (Host-Roz) But that there is the ability within self to contact as high a soul as is sought, by will, by desire, by the use of that attained for this soul, for this entity to reach into the cosmic or the universal sources for its supply, for its needs, for its desires.
(09:43:04) (Bill) Roz i think your posts are getting cut off?
(09:43:27) (One) Yes....there are allot of rectangular boxes.
(09:43:33) (Host-Roz) where did it cut off Bill
(09:43:36) (Qrious) I really think it was refering to Jesus.. scriptually.. as to the charge and the dashing of feet.. thats when Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the lord thy God.
(09:43:36) (Qrious) I really think it was refering to Jesus.. scriptually.. as to the charge and the dashing of feet.. thats when Jesus said thou shalt not tempt the lord thy God.
(09:43:56) (Bill) the third to last post and sec. to last
(09:44:33) (Lory) But that there is the ability within self to contact as h........................
(09:44:36) (Host-Roz) as He has given, “I wil1~ not leave thee comfortless,” and “I will give my angels charge concerning thee,~’ and “Will ye be my people I will be your God.” The face of the self’s own angel is ever before the throne.
(09:45:32) (Eileen) thanks, Roz
(09:45:49) (Bill) But that there is the ability within self to contact as h
(09:46:54) (One) There is the ability, latent maybe, to even Become As He Did.
(09:47:06) (One) A Manifestation of His Holy Spirit.
(09:48:06) (Host-Roz) ”. . .Here words fail to express the tone, the tenor or the color that each would convey. But that there is the ability within self to contact as high a soul as is sought, by will, by desire, by the use of that attained for this soul, for this entity to reach into the cosmic or the universal sources for its supply, for its needs, for its desires.
(09:48:45) (Eileen) thanks, Roz
(09:48:50) (Lory) It was the post before that one, Roz.
(09:48:54) (Qrious) this psalm follows Luke 4:9
(09:48:56) (Host-Roz) yw Eileen
(09:49:09) (Host-Roz) thanks Qrious
(09:49:32) (Host-Roz) any more discussion of Psalm 91
(09:49:46) (Host-Roz) okie Lory thanks
(09:49:55) (Zee) It seems to me a promise
(09:50:08) (Zee) that can be claimed and I am grateful for it thank you Roz
(09:50:38) (Host-Roz) And His Spirit will bear witness with thy spirit whether ye be in that realm where the material, the mental or the spiritual application may be made of that THOU experienceth in the mysteries of thine inner self.
(09:50:43) (Zee) and I have proven it true
(09:51:34) (Host-Roz) . Know, as He has given, that He will give His angels charge concerning thee and will bear thee up. Let that faith, that trust, which has sustained thee in the present, keep thee from fear of any kind. Not that precaution is not to be taken, for that’s what railings are built for! Hold to them, but don’t trust them. Trust in the Lord who giveth man judgment and the abilities to those to prepare such! (5108—1)
(09:52:16) (Zee) in other words with faith and action use common sense seems to me
(09:52:30) (Lory) Wow, what truth in that last post, Roz.
(09:53:35) (Zee) that really speaks to me in the life I´m presently living such reassurance
(09:53:43) (Host-Roz) Psalm 150 the last of the Psalms attributed to anonymous
(09:54:48) (Qrious) Ezekiel 18:3.. .. for every living soul belongs to me...
(09:55:12) (friend_to_mankind) right track
(09:55:46) (Host-Roz) PRAISE THE LORD! PRAISE GOD IN HIS SANCTUARY; PRAISE HIM IN HIS MIGHTY FIRMAMENT! PRAISE HIM FOR HIS MIGHTY DEEDS; PRAISE HIM ACCORDING TO HIS EXCEEDING GREATNESS!
(09:56:18) (Zee) The Lord is exalted power released in the praises of his people
(09:56:54) (Host-Roz) PRAISE HIM WITH TRUMPET SOUND; PRAISE HIM WITH LUTE AND HARP! PRAISE HIM WITH TIMBREL AND DANCE; PRAISE HIM WITH STRINGS AND PIPE! PRAISE HIM WITH SOUNDING CYMBALS; PRAISE HIM WITH LOUD CLASHING CYMBALS! LET EVERYTHING THAT BREATHES PRAISE THE LORD! PRAISE THE LORD! PSALM 150:1—6
(09:57:14) (Zee) thats been proven also if we praise God for what we want to recieve as if we already had it lo, there it is
(09:57:23) (Qrious) reminds me of Footloose.. lol.
(09:57:42) (Host-Roz) In only one reading, and that in the context of a Bible study recommendation, do we find an insight, or interpretation, from Edgar Cayce on how —— or why —-Psalm 150 should be read.
(09:58:17) (LightBearerHelen) that's so very difficult, Zee...
(09:58:31) (LightBearerHelen) But I believe it to be true.
(09:58:38) (Zee) many things are difficult but we can do them life is difficult
(09:59:12) (Lory) Life is difficult only if we make it so.(09:59:30) (Zee) Jesus said when ye stand praying believe that you have thats present tensee and you will recieve it
(09:59:35) (Qrious) The high priests used to bless God.. it is written.. but you'll have to find it.
(09:59:47) (Host-Roz) Rather turn ye to these: In the 30th of Deuteronomy FIND what is told thee ——THEE —— to do! Turn again to that as found in the 150th Psalm, and give praise that He, thy Lord, thy God, has entrusted to thee that way, that belief innate in thy purposes.
(09:59:52) (One) Probably depends upon the prayer.
(09:59:57) (Bill) if you ask for wanting thats what you get wanting if it something you need ask and believe that it has aready been granted
(10:00:04) (sammie) where is that quote Zee?
(10:00:11) (One) Gods answer is not always yes.
(10:00:12) (Host-Roz) so right Bill
(10:00:14) (Zee) well, I had an easy life, and I chose challenge so I make it so and I´m thankful for so many chances to grow instead of lying on a bed of ease
(10:00:23) (LightBearerHelen) good point, One.
(10:00:28) (One) He knoiws your nedds before you ask of them.
(10:00:41) (Bill) but its always what we need One
(10:00:48) (Qrious) Gods answer is .. if it is in my Will. lol One.
(10:00:57) (Host-Roz) Then turn to the 1~4th, 15th, 16th, and 11th of St. John, and know that He speaks again with thee —— and that in thine own heart, in thine own mind will come that peace of the way chosen —— that leadeth to life everlasting, to JOY that knows no confines, to peace that passeth understanding! (262—121)
(10:00:57) (One) Why should one try to0 tell God what they need....at least if it is of a material nature.
(10:01:34) (Zee) who said material nature
(10:01:38) (Qrious) he knows your needs before you ask them One.. true.. but he still wants you to ask.
(10:01:47) (One) I was clarifying.
(10:02:10) (Host-Roz) we need to put into concrete form in prayer
(10:02:12) (One) Yes, but for bthose things of a nature which will bring you closer to Him.
(10:02:25) (Zee) he asked us to pray the father to send laborers into the harvest god tells us to pray for our leaders God asked for intercessors
(10:02:27) (Bill) i never converse here with the material in mind i come here for spiritual food
(10:02:36) (Host-Roz) any updates or additions to theprayer List?
(10:02:37) (One) Such as asking to be nothing but a Manifestation of His Will.
(10:03:02) (Qrious) its simple.. Gods in control.. lets leave it at that.
(10:03:17) (Zee) then why did Jesus ask us to pray
(10:03:41) (One) He's in control of you if you allow Him To be. He is controll of your life regardless.
(10:03:43) (Zee) and we are asked to pray without ceasing God asks us to
(10:03:54) (Qrious) He said of the harvest Zee.. that the laborers are few.. true.. and the seed is planted.. but the increase is from Him.
(10:04:15) (LightBearerHelen) ...The prayer list, Roz?
(10:04:19) (Lory) Terrific clarification, Roz, thank you very much.
(10:04:21) (Bill) Q we have complete control it our choice as to whether or not we wish to do God's will
(10:04:24) (Zee) and he said pray that the lord of the harvest will send forth workers
(10:04:40) (One) Yes Bill.
(10:04:59) (Qrious) Praying is asking Zee.. meditation is awaiting an answer.
(10:05:17) (Host-Roz) Next week we will begin studying Life of Jesus
(10:05:21) (Qrious) that is why Joshua said to choose ye this day Bill..
(10:05:23) (sammie) ditto Q. It works.
(10:05:33) (Bill) Q asking or giving thanks for the treasures we recieve daily
(10:06:16) (One) As Cayce gave, "Repentance is then, "Not my will be done O Lord, but Your Will be done, in me, through me." Kind of a bottom line thing as to what repentance is.
(10:06:36) (Qrious) Bill.. asking and giving thanks.. is a plus.. I agree.
(10:11:28) (Host-Roz) It is now open chat
(10:11:42) (LightBearerHelen) Thank you Roz for tonight's lesson. :)
(10:11:49) (Qrious) Thankyou for the Chat Roz.. it was stimulating.
(10:11:52) (sammie) nice goin' Roz.
(10:12:11) (Roz) you are most welcome Helen come often
(10:12:17) (Cris) Blessings all - Thanks Roz
(10:12:50) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks for a great study, Roz!
(10:12:59) (Roz) Thank all of you for coming and participating
(10:13:11) (BlackWolf) Thank you Roz; Blessings Cris and LightBearerHelen
(10:13:25) (Bill) good material Roz
(10:13:37) (Roz) Thanks Bill
(10:14:04) (Roz) Krajenke is an old friend
