Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 12, 2006 23:26:49 GMT -5
Col. James Churchward's Lemuria, Pt. II: 08-05-06
(09:22:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Well, if yall are ready, we'll go ahead and get rollin tonight!
(09:25:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Do I have a volunteer to start us off with a prayer tonight?
(09:25:55) (Cris) I will if you want
(09:26:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, thank you Cris!
(09:27:00) (Cris) Lord protect and guide us to have the wisdom to accept your love and pass it on unadultrated by our egos. Let us be an example of your good Amen
(09:27:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:27:20) (mark) Amen
(09:27:31) (merri) Amen
(09:27:37) (Bill) Amen
(09:27:39) (James) amen
(09:28:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, we'll pick up where we left off last week in the lecture given by Joan T. Griffith on Col. James Churchward's work.
(09:29:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Most of all, at a time when few could travel great distances, he provided descriptions and illustrations of innumerable megalithic ruins throughout the Pacific region, proof that an advanced civilization occupied a large continent in times past.
(09:30:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (He, being Churchward.)
(09:30:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Now, any time yall want to stop me for questions, comments, discussion, etc. please do!
(09:31:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A civilization capable of constructing immense stone structures, walls, roads and temples of 30- to 50-ton blocks, by unknown means, unduplicatible by today’s engineers. Such ruins can be found on small islands at landlevel or leading into the sea; some stonework is not native to the island it’s on, originating as much as 300 miles away on another islet.
(09:31:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Easter Island is almost a cliché, as is Nan Madol, but sites just as unique exist at:
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the Maldives
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Tonga
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Tahiti
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Vinapu
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the Marquesas
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Carolines
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Hebrides
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mariana group
(09:32:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Yap
(09:32:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Truk
(09:32:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Rarotonga
(09:32:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lele
(09:32:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Kiribati
(09:32:53) (mark) Carolines,..as in North Carolina?
(09:33:04) (Cris) as in islands
(09:33:13) (mark) oh
(09:33:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Islands
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Caledonia
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Palau
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Ponape
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Isle of Pines, as well as New Zealand and Australia
(09:33:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hawaii is a hot spot, boasting petroglyphs on stone, walls and platforms at:
(09:33:47) (lilith) Walks - all these are related???
(09:33:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes ma'am!
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Kaua
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Oahu
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lanai
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Puuloa
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Molokai
(09:34:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) More descriptions and newer illustrations of these sites can be found in David Hatcher Childress’ Lost Cities Of Ancient Lemuria & the Pacific, Ancient Tonga, and Ancient Micronesia. What an oasis of discovery for geologists, archeologists, anthropologists, or university groups!
(09:35:20) (lilith) well, why not - its still/just a living, breathing planet
(09:36:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) See, these are what is left of Lemuria. They were prolly mountaintops before Lemuria sank.
(09:36:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A bigger mystery than Lemuria is why more light isn’t being thrown on the origins and dating of such wonders. And time is winding down; already, due to the polar ice melting and rising ocean levels, a few Pacific islands have experienced flooding and erosion; larger lands have noted salt water seepage into their fresh water.
(09:36:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But recently, many geologists and explorers have been quietly examining the evidence and have published their logical conclusions. Dr. J. Johnstone of Liverpool University, in Introduction to Oceanography, says, "The 2,500 fathom sub-marine contour of Pacific and Atlantic Oceans affords a suggestion of representing outline of submerged areas."
(09:36:56) (ernie) good question
(09:37:03) (ernie) self answering
(09:37:44) (ernie) if its all come to light it throw darwin to the pile of wwrongs
(09:38:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Says Dr. F.R.C. Reed in Geography of the British Empire:
(09:39:04) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Fiji, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, New Guinea and perhaps New Zealand are of continental origin ... in the SW part of Vitu Levu the old basement of Plutonis and ancient sedimentary rocks is exposed, indicating continental origin of islands."
(09:39:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Sir Archibald Geikie, "Bathymetric soundings of the Pacific indicate a series of ridges between Japan and Chile."
(09:39:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Flat-topped guyots (sea-mounts) are formed above water, and these are numerous throughout the Pacific, now submerged. One such guyot, termed "the largest sea-mount in history" by its peak 11,000 feet undersea, was located 700 miles cast of Hawaii by the Scripps Institution of Oceanography scientists in 1951.
(09:40:08) (ernie) if a extensive analysis of dna to the begining can be done its that easy
(09:40:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Coral too, gives silent testimony, as it can grow only under the surface of water to a depth of 150 feet; rings of coral have been found in the South Seas 1,800 feet deep, meaning that those areas went down slowly over an extended period of time.
(09:40:34) (ernie) but all the experts like to keep thing complicated
(09:40:35) (lilith) WIS - isn't that the same one that had the land slide undersea & caused the tsunami??
(09:40:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I believe it was, Lil
(09:41:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And they had another tsunami this year in the same area
(09:41:47) (lilith) yup & there will be more
(09:41:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Though Churchward implies an "overnight destruction of Mu" (from Troano records), this might refer to any of three separate cataclysms from 50,000 BC to 10,900 BC, the dates given by Cayce and other sources to the first and third destructions, with a second event at about 28,000 BC.
(09:42:06) (Richard) Cayce also pointed to those areas as being some of the first indicators.
(09:42:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Richard
(09:42:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Magnetic pole reversals, or even axis shifts, may have accompanied or helped cause submergence.
(09:42:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As far back as 1933, soundings of the Pacific by Capt. Claude Banks Mayo of the U.S. Navy, show that there is, "a submerged continent, with mountains, river courses and plateau at an average depth of one mile stretching from the Hawaiian to the Barin Islands, east of the coast of Japan.
(09:43:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) East of Hawaii the ocean floor drops to an even level of three miles all the way to the California coast." as told in James Bramwell’s Lost Atlantis.
(09:43:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The usually staid Smithsonian Institution, in its November 1955 annual report, announced that Dr. Albert C. Smith, one of its botanists, had collected evidence indicating the existence of a large continent in the Southwest Pacific some 20 million years ago.
(09:43:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Smith’s study of plant life similarities in Pacific Islands supports the continent’s existence, embracing New Guinea and Australia. He found that Fiji plants showed affinity with plants of Papua, Solomon Islands and New Hebrides.
(09:44:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The diffusion of flora and fauna iii these far-flung islands is one of the undeniable arguments for the existence of a Mu.
(09:44:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He was supported by J. Manson Valentine of the Miami Museum of Science (noted for his explorations of megalithic stone "J" formation off Bimini, in the 1960s and ’70s) who was convinced, as a biologist, that a continent did exist in the mid-Pacific, based on this evidence.
(09:45:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In his "Development of Median Elevations in Ocean Basins" (1958, Geological Society American Bulletin, Vol. 69, pp. 1179-1186) H. W. Menard finds that:
(09:45:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "The southern part of the east Pacific Rise is 2000 km. wide and 2 km. high, one of the largest oceanic rises in the world .... [O]bservations do not rule out the possibility that broad rises may be temporary features which are elevated and then subside."
(09:45:43) (ernie) i snorkled there bimini
(09:45:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cool, Ernie!
(09:45:53) (lilith) that would account for the large area bare in the oceans that divide the two
(09:45:53) (ernie) it was cool and man made to me
(09:46:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The exciting discovery of a vast layer of "clean white ash" on the Pacific Ocean floor a few hundred miles from C. and S. America, extending 750 miles to the west and 825 miles to the south of the equator, was reported in the New York Times of April 12. 1959.
(09:46:27) (Cris) Did you take pictures Ernie?
(09:46:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Its origin was suggested as being from probable widespread volcanic action, or even falling debris from the breakup of asteroids. But E. Anders and D.N. Limber ("Origin of the Worzel Deepsea Ash" in Nature, Vol. 184. 1959) believe the ash to be terrestrial, and that the layer must have "recorded a notable event in the earth’s history."
(09:46:47) (ernie) not of that
(09:46:57) (ernie) i took some of the trip tho
(09:47:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Some corroboration is provided in the discovery of large amounts of volcanic dust completely mixed in the Alaskan, Asian and Siberian "muck," indicating volcanism occurred at or just before the phenomenon which instantly flash-froze entire herds of imperial mammoths 10,000 years ago.
(09:47:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Obviously, no "gradual climactic change" at work here!
(09:48:02) (ernie) depends on how you look at it
(09:48:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Catastrophism, an explanation conservative scientists have found unsavory, still is implied by such examples as the Berezovka mammoth, discovered in 1901 quick-frozen in Siberia, its stomach contents revealing partly digested buttercups and other temperate zone plants no longer native to that area.
(09:48:20) (ernie) this global warming will cause an ice age
(09:48:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There was no ice age, Ernie, according to the things Churchward uncovered.
(09:48:49) (lilith) but only after we all drown down here!
(09:49:03) (ernie) lol
(09:49:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) plus, look at that mammoth frozen with the buttercups in it's belly! That wasn't gradual! LOL
(09:49:14) (ernie) im saing there will be one
(09:49:33) (ernie) we are looking at the beginning of one
(09:50:01) (lilith) yup
(09:50:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I dunno... I think a pole shift, yes. And reversal of the tropic and cold areas, but no "Ice Age"
(09:50:40) (ernie) the ice melting will cause the oceans currents to stop fllowing
(09:50:57) (ernie) therefor the weather will change
(09:51:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Right
(09:51:11) (Cris) I think it's happening now with the snow in Africa
(09:51:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The extinction of Siberian mammoths was an insoluble problem to Charles Darwin, who from early on preferred the idea of gradual climactic change, but later wrote in his classic "Journal of Researches into the Natural History & Geology of the Countries Visited During the Voyage of H.M.S. Beagle Round the World":
(09:52:16) (mark) i have heard that we are due for an ice age
(09:52:19) (ernie) i watch to much tv i guess
(09:52:22) (lilith) and behind the glaciers which are rapidly melting, there are glacial lakes, some of which have disappeared
(09:52:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "What then has exterminated so many species and whole genera? The mind at first is irresistibly hurried into the belief of some great catastrophe; but thus to destroy animals both large and small, in S. Patagonia, in Brazil, on the Cordillera of Peru, in N. America up to Bering’s Straits, we must shake the entire framework of the globe.
(09:53:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) No lesser physical event could have brought about this wholesale destruction not only in the Americas but in the entire world."
(09:53:10) (Richard) After a shift the old poles begain to melt and the new ones starte to form. So for a short period the earth would be covered.
(09:53:12) (ernie) it will be cool to see all that comes out of the ice
(09:53:37) (Cris) a glimpse of the future if it happens again
(09:53:45) (lilith) and you will have a ring-side seat from where? ernie? under water?
(09:54:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An area of "enormous numbers of sunken islands," suggesting a lost continent, was discovered in the west portion of the Indian Ocean close to the shores of Africa by the vessel Vityaz (Knight Errant) which explored for seven months in the Indian Ocean between Asia, Africa and Australia during 1961, as a continuation of the International Geophysical Year.
(09:54:31) (ernie) lol
(09:54:36) (ernie) im the boat guy '
(09:55:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many areas, which appeared on maps as deep blue spots, contained extensive elevations and individual mountains, as well as great accumulations of ancient animal remains, and prehistoric sharks’ teeth.
(09:55:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A few years later Dr. Robert J. Menzies, director of Duke University’s Oceanographic Program, and his colleagues spotted and photographed carved rock columns resting on a muddy plain 6,000 ft. underwater, in the 600-mile-long Milne-Edward Deep, a trench off the coast of Peru.
(09:55:22) (lilith) And WIS, Atlantis was supposed to have been here 200 THOUSAND years ago
(09:56:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep. Lemuria pre-dates Atlantis. I never knew that tillw e started this research! I thought it was the other way around! :-)
(09:57:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Strange writing was carved on the columns and nearby, sonar detected strange lumps on the otherwise level bottom, indicative of possible building ruins. Menzies, from the research ship Anton Bruun, stated that the find suggested evidence of a sunken city, as reported in the New York Times, April 17, 1966.
(09:57:22) (Cris) Two of the crystals I have are supposed to be Lemurian crystals
(09:57:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) WOW, Cris!!!
(09:57:50) (Blu) Cool Cris, would like to photos of those
(09:57:52) (ernie) good what cris?
(09:58:10) (lilith) oh Cris - how perfectly wonderful - h ow can one get it verified??
(09:58:37) (Cris) Supposed to be..... bought at a mineral show and they will tell you anything for a sale. BUT they are different from any others I have
(09:58:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) What kind of energy do you get from them?
(09:59:02) (lilith) in what way are they different, Cris/
(09:59:14) (Cris) A quiet energy but almost a heart beat from one of them
(09:59:16) (ernie) cool i want to seeeee one
(09:59:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) AWESOME!
(09:59:48) (ernie) that is because your in tune with it
(09:59:52) (Cris) Everyone has a different reaction to them. No two people seem to feel the same thing
(09:59:53) (lilith) holy cow! h ow marvelous!
(10:00:09) (lilith) boy, would I love to hold that for a bit!!
(10:00:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Me too!
(10:00:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Back in 1947, J. H. Umbgrove, in Pulse of the Earth, had already ascertained that the deep trench off part of the Andean coast of S. America (presumably Milne-Edward) and at least one other deep submarine trench, show evidence of once being part of a continent.
(10:00:25) (ernie) and the cosmos when i sit in my tub outside i feel i can feel the whole earth breath
(10:00:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And by 1977, Amos Nur, a Stanford geophysicist, averred that a "Pacifica" was a probability, as crust centers originate under continental masses, except in the Pacific, and that "currently submerged plateaus in the ocean near Australia, including the Minihiki plateau and the Ong Java area, are remnants of this past land mass."
(10:01:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One could surmise that if the Pacific ocean basins had for eons been "bathtubs" into which detritus from the continents was sluiced, then the sea floors would be found covered with great thicknesses of sediment.
(10:01:29) (lilith) boy - almost didn't come in tonight - am sure glad I did - ty ty Walks
(10:01:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We're glad you did Lil!!!
(10:01:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And conversely, if there had been continents in those areas recently, hardly any thickness of deep-sea sediment would be found, merely a thin layer draped over a very rough topography which had once been above water, subjected to weatherizing and stress action ("subaerial topography").
(10:01:55) (Cris) Yes we are
(10:02:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And which condition was found by a sub-bottom depth profiler?
(10:02:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Science magazine, Dec. 1963, Vol. 142:
(10:02:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "From the few transoceanic profiles obtained, results suggest that the total accumulation of sediment is remarkably small, portions of the ridges are virtually bare of it, and the basement surface is almost uniformly rough."
(10:02:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Theorizing proves unnecessary, when one has physical proof at the ready. In the town library at Nance, France there is a globe, six inches in diameter, with a recorded history dating back to 1531; its continents of N. and S. America are accurately drawn but the peninsula of California is shown as an island with a group of smaller islands at its southern tip:
(10:03:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) water covers the area of the Santa Clara, San Joaquin and Sacramento valleys. An illustration of this globe can be seen in Walter Cerve’s (Wishar S. Cerve - pseudonym of Harve Spencer Lewis) Lemuria-The Lost Continent of the Pacific.
(10:03:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cerve sees this west strip of California as a remnant of the E. coast of Lemuria following avulsion. Citing as evidence the richness of valley soils, and seashells imbedded in Santa Clara’s deep soil.
(10:04:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cayce, too, stated that, "this land ... near the present Santa Barbara... that must in the near future fade again into those joinings with the land of Mu... where the entity [individual for whom the Reading was given] established a temple of worship when Lemuria or lands of Mu and Zu were in turmoils for destruction, with the shifting of the earth at that period..." (Reading #509-1).
(10:04:40) (ernie) i grew up in southern cali and used to go up the hils and mountains when i was a kid
(10:04:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In old Indian legends, Santa Catalina’s original name was "Pimu" ("land of sunken mountains") including two volcanoes; and San Miguel Island was called "Limu."
(10:04:48) (lilith) well, when did Edgar say all was to disappear?
(10:04:49) (ernie) we alwise found shells
(10:04:54) (ernie) high up to
(10:05:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm not sure on that, Lil
(10:06:12) (lilith) wll, give or take a few million years, maybe??
(10:06:46) (lilith) fifty years ago, was on top of the Continental Divide, scuffed my boot to get the dust off & these little shells scraped up!
(10:07:03) (Cris) Probably brachiopods
(10:07:11) (Blu) You mean for the next earth changes Lilith?
(10:07:24) (lilith) don't know Cris - we werem't introduced! smilin
(10:07:35) (lilith) yup, Blu
(10:07:46) (Cris) :o)
(10:07:57) (Blu) I personally don't think it will be that long lilith
(10:08:30) (Blu) we already have oceans warmed by 4 degrees and there was a volcano erupt in Hawaii today
(10:08:31) (Richard) They are happening now lilith.... The east coast of Greenland was also mentioned in the signs of things to come.... The ice there is melting faster and faster.
(10:08:40) (lilith) well, would like it to hurry - at my age, don't want to wait around much l onger for it!
(10:08:53) (Blu) yes, there is an Island in New Zealand sinking
(10:09:17) (Richard) I can dig that lil... I to am filling up with years.
(10:09:20) (Blu) we are already seeing our own coast lines change
(10:09:29) (lilith) well, our Coast isn't the same as it used to be, either, except where they filled in with the dredged sand
(10:09:53) (Blu) I don't think this is going to be fun
(10:10:00) (lilith) which will promptly wash out with the next hurricane
(10:10:17) (Blu) Hurrican Katrin is just the befinning of the loss of life
(10:10:20) (Richard) Every day I gain a bit in faith towards the time of my demise.
(10:10:23) (lilith) well, no, not fun -
(10:10:31) (ernie) its funny
(10:10:54) (Cris) I have a feeling the east coast is going to be hit this year adn I hope I'm wrong
(10:10:55) (lilith) Richard! you're not planning on helping "the time of your demise" areou?
(10:10:59) (Blu) They say the worst curse to put on someone is to say may you live in interesting times, I think we do
(10:11:16) (lilith) Mean sinking or blowing away, Cris?
(10:11:19) (Richard) Just beyond that though there is a time of
unprecedented peace and spiritual prosperity.
(10:11:26) (ernie) the people here keep moving back a couple beaches around here the second row of houses is water fron
(10:11:27) (Blu) Do you all find this material informative?
(10:11:34) (Cris) No I mean a hurricane the over built coast isn't redy for
(10:11:38) (ernie) whats funny is they keep building
(10:11:56) (lilith) oh sure - can throw a rock very short distance from me & find that
(10:12:00) (Blu) Then they will ask why did you not warn us? duh
(10:12:46) (Richard) In some ways lilith with help ourselves along a bit everyday... I feel the willingness to wait for it... but the more I study Cayce and others the more encouraged I am about post physicality consciousness,
(10:12:48) (lilith) did you see that Geographic went to Oregon Coast where the next huge tsunami is predicted & the people were TAKING THEIR CARS TO RUN TO HIGH GROUND?? Huge traffic ball-up, of course
(10:13:00) (Bill) its informative Blu but it is also Churchwards opinion there are many conflictings theorys on this subject and many can be very convincing
(10:13:22) (Cris) Right now it's more a feeling
(10:13:35) (lilith) Bill? didn't see you! Hi
(10:13:52) (lilith) no, think that's instinct, Cris
(10:14:35) (ernie) ok clue if you see all the animals running for the hills follow
(10:14:39) (Blu) Agreed Bill, some of the facts conflict but there is still enough found to show that much has been ignored
(10:14:47) (Cris) I don't feel comfortable there right now at all
(10:14:50) (Richard) The times are not so bad.. WalMart makes these killer pizzas and one is smelling up my kitchen even as we speak.
(10:14:56) (lilith) History channel on MOnday will show Hitler's dream of a new nation - he was fond of "being related to Atlanteans" !!!
(10:15:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Richard
(10:15:08) (ernie) lol
(10:15:18) (lilith) lol
(10:16:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, yall want us to go on with some more material?
(10:16:53) (merri) please do WIS
(10:16:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok!
(10:17:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) At the time of Colonel Churchward’s
death, he had been collecting research notes for a sixth book, Traces of Mu in America.
(10:17:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Would he have mentioned the more than 10,000 earth mounds in Ohio alone?
(10:17:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Did he know of the remnants of the Great Mound of Cahokia in East St. Louis, originally 97 ft. high with sides of 700 ft. x 500 ft.?
(10:17:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Was he privy to secrets of tunnel systems rumored near Mt. Shasta and throughout the western states?
(10:17:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Could he have told us more about certain Egyptian traces in Grand Canyon caves?
(10:17:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Skeletons of six-fingered giants, excavated on the California coast?
(10:17:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • And just recently, the discovery of human hair dating back 10,000 to 12,000 years ago at an archaeological dig in Woodburn, Oregon, during 1999?
(10:19:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This site is filled with elephant bones, and those of condors, sloths and a 14-ft. winged bird. Professor William Orr from U. of Oregon, after having the hair lab-tested, found that its DNA did not match that of Asian, African or European;
(10:19:21) (Cris) Tunnels under Mt, Shasta?
(10:19:25) (Blu) Churchward is referred to and sited as a reference in the book "The Great Migration"
(10:19:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) there is a plan to compare it with Japanese. Why not compare it with certain Pacific islanders’ hair DNA? You might be in for a shock.
(10:20:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "About that time period there was a huge disappearance of larger animals, in a wave, around 11,000 or 12,000 years ago," says Orr. "We are finding butterflies and insects in this old stream bed, 10 to 12 feet deep. When they are exposed to the air, they oxidize before your eyes. It’s as if they were quick frozen."
(10:20:16) (Blu) Also in other areas of the west Cris, Merlin found some interesting news articles on them
(10:20:35) (Cris) Thanks
(09:25:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Do I have a volunteer to start us off with a prayer tonight?
(09:25:55) (Cris) I will if you want
(09:26:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, thank you Cris!
(09:27:00) (Cris) Lord protect and guide us to have the wisdom to accept your love and pass it on unadultrated by our egos. Let us be an example of your good Amen
(09:27:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:27:20) (mark) Amen
(09:27:31) (merri) Amen
(09:27:37) (Bill) Amen
(09:27:39) (James) amen
(09:28:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, we'll pick up where we left off last week in the lecture given by Joan T. Griffith on Col. James Churchward's work.
(09:29:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Most of all, at a time when few could travel great distances, he provided descriptions and illustrations of innumerable megalithic ruins throughout the Pacific region, proof that an advanced civilization occupied a large continent in times past.
(09:30:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (He, being Churchward.)
(09:30:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Now, any time yall want to stop me for questions, comments, discussion, etc. please do!
(09:31:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A civilization capable of constructing immense stone structures, walls, roads and temples of 30- to 50-ton blocks, by unknown means, unduplicatible by today’s engineers. Such ruins can be found on small islands at landlevel or leading into the sea; some stonework is not native to the island it’s on, originating as much as 300 miles away on another islet.
(09:31:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Easter Island is almost a cliché, as is Nan Madol, but sites just as unique exist at:
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the Maldives
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Tonga
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Tahiti
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Vinapu
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the Marquesas
(09:31:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Carolines
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Hebrides
(09:32:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mariana group
(09:32:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Yap
(09:32:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Truk
(09:32:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Rarotonga
(09:32:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lele
(09:32:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Kiribati
(09:32:53) (mark) Carolines,..as in North Carolina?
(09:33:04) (Cris) as in islands
(09:33:13) (mark) oh
(09:33:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Islands
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Caledonia
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Palau
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Ponape
(09:33:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Isle of Pines, as well as New Zealand and Australia
(09:33:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hawaii is a hot spot, boasting petroglyphs on stone, walls and platforms at:
(09:33:47) (lilith) Walks - all these are related???
(09:33:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes ma'am!
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Kaua
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Oahu
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lanai
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Puuloa
(09:34:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Molokai
(09:34:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) More descriptions and newer illustrations of these sites can be found in David Hatcher Childress’ Lost Cities Of Ancient Lemuria & the Pacific, Ancient Tonga, and Ancient Micronesia. What an oasis of discovery for geologists, archeologists, anthropologists, or university groups!
(09:35:20) (lilith) well, why not - its still/just a living, breathing planet
(09:36:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) See, these are what is left of Lemuria. They were prolly mountaintops before Lemuria sank.
(09:36:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A bigger mystery than Lemuria is why more light isn’t being thrown on the origins and dating of such wonders. And time is winding down; already, due to the polar ice melting and rising ocean levels, a few Pacific islands have experienced flooding and erosion; larger lands have noted salt water seepage into their fresh water.
(09:36:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But recently, many geologists and explorers have been quietly examining the evidence and have published their logical conclusions. Dr. J. Johnstone of Liverpool University, in Introduction to Oceanography, says, "The 2,500 fathom sub-marine contour of Pacific and Atlantic Oceans affords a suggestion of representing outline of submerged areas."
(09:36:56) (ernie) good question
(09:37:03) (ernie) self answering
(09:37:44) (ernie) if its all come to light it throw darwin to the pile of wwrongs
(09:38:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Says Dr. F.R.C. Reed in Geography of the British Empire:
(09:39:04) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Fiji, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, New Guinea and perhaps New Zealand are of continental origin ... in the SW part of Vitu Levu the old basement of Plutonis and ancient sedimentary rocks is exposed, indicating continental origin of islands."
(09:39:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Sir Archibald Geikie, "Bathymetric soundings of the Pacific indicate a series of ridges between Japan and Chile."
(09:39:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Flat-topped guyots (sea-mounts) are formed above water, and these are numerous throughout the Pacific, now submerged. One such guyot, termed "the largest sea-mount in history" by its peak 11,000 feet undersea, was located 700 miles cast of Hawaii by the Scripps Institution of Oceanography scientists in 1951.
(09:40:08) (ernie) if a extensive analysis of dna to the begining can be done its that easy
(09:40:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Coral too, gives silent testimony, as it can grow only under the surface of water to a depth of 150 feet; rings of coral have been found in the South Seas 1,800 feet deep, meaning that those areas went down slowly over an extended period of time.
(09:40:34) (ernie) but all the experts like to keep thing complicated
(09:40:35) (lilith) WIS - isn't that the same one that had the land slide undersea & caused the tsunami??
(09:40:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I believe it was, Lil
(09:41:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And they had another tsunami this year in the same area
(09:41:47) (lilith) yup & there will be more
(09:41:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Though Churchward implies an "overnight destruction of Mu" (from Troano records), this might refer to any of three separate cataclysms from 50,000 BC to 10,900 BC, the dates given by Cayce and other sources to the first and third destructions, with a second event at about 28,000 BC.
(09:42:06) (Richard) Cayce also pointed to those areas as being some of the first indicators.
(09:42:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, Richard
(09:42:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Magnetic pole reversals, or even axis shifts, may have accompanied or helped cause submergence.
(09:42:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As far back as 1933, soundings of the Pacific by Capt. Claude Banks Mayo of the U.S. Navy, show that there is, "a submerged continent, with mountains, river courses and plateau at an average depth of one mile stretching from the Hawaiian to the Barin Islands, east of the coast of Japan.
(09:43:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) East of Hawaii the ocean floor drops to an even level of three miles all the way to the California coast." as told in James Bramwell’s Lost Atlantis.
(09:43:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The usually staid Smithsonian Institution, in its November 1955 annual report, announced that Dr. Albert C. Smith, one of its botanists, had collected evidence indicating the existence of a large continent in the Southwest Pacific some 20 million years ago.
(09:43:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Smith’s study of plant life similarities in Pacific Islands supports the continent’s existence, embracing New Guinea and Australia. He found that Fiji plants showed affinity with plants of Papua, Solomon Islands and New Hebrides.
(09:44:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The diffusion of flora and fauna iii these far-flung islands is one of the undeniable arguments for the existence of a Mu.
(09:44:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He was supported by J. Manson Valentine of the Miami Museum of Science (noted for his explorations of megalithic stone "J" formation off Bimini, in the 1960s and ’70s) who was convinced, as a biologist, that a continent did exist in the mid-Pacific, based on this evidence.
(09:45:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In his "Development of Median Elevations in Ocean Basins" (1958, Geological Society American Bulletin, Vol. 69, pp. 1179-1186) H. W. Menard finds that:
(09:45:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "The southern part of the east Pacific Rise is 2000 km. wide and 2 km. high, one of the largest oceanic rises in the world .... [O]bservations do not rule out the possibility that broad rises may be temporary features which are elevated and then subside."
(09:45:43) (ernie) i snorkled there bimini
(09:45:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cool, Ernie!
(09:45:53) (lilith) that would account for the large area bare in the oceans that divide the two
(09:45:53) (ernie) it was cool and man made to me
(09:46:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The exciting discovery of a vast layer of "clean white ash" on the Pacific Ocean floor a few hundred miles from C. and S. America, extending 750 miles to the west and 825 miles to the south of the equator, was reported in the New York Times of April 12. 1959.
(09:46:27) (Cris) Did you take pictures Ernie?
(09:46:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Its origin was suggested as being from probable widespread volcanic action, or even falling debris from the breakup of asteroids. But E. Anders and D.N. Limber ("Origin of the Worzel Deepsea Ash" in Nature, Vol. 184. 1959) believe the ash to be terrestrial, and that the layer must have "recorded a notable event in the earth’s history."
(09:46:47) (ernie) not of that
(09:46:57) (ernie) i took some of the trip tho
(09:47:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Some corroboration is provided in the discovery of large amounts of volcanic dust completely mixed in the Alaskan, Asian and Siberian "muck," indicating volcanism occurred at or just before the phenomenon which instantly flash-froze entire herds of imperial mammoths 10,000 years ago.
(09:47:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Obviously, no "gradual climactic change" at work here!
(09:48:02) (ernie) depends on how you look at it
(09:48:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Catastrophism, an explanation conservative scientists have found unsavory, still is implied by such examples as the Berezovka mammoth, discovered in 1901 quick-frozen in Siberia, its stomach contents revealing partly digested buttercups and other temperate zone plants no longer native to that area.
(09:48:20) (ernie) this global warming will cause an ice age
(09:48:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There was no ice age, Ernie, according to the things Churchward uncovered.
(09:48:49) (lilith) but only after we all drown down here!
(09:49:03) (ernie) lol
(09:49:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) plus, look at that mammoth frozen with the buttercups in it's belly! That wasn't gradual! LOL
(09:49:14) (ernie) im saing there will be one
(09:49:33) (ernie) we are looking at the beginning of one
(09:50:01) (lilith) yup
(09:50:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I dunno... I think a pole shift, yes. And reversal of the tropic and cold areas, but no "Ice Age"
(09:50:40) (ernie) the ice melting will cause the oceans currents to stop fllowing
(09:50:57) (ernie) therefor the weather will change
(09:51:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Right
(09:51:11) (Cris) I think it's happening now with the snow in Africa
(09:51:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The extinction of Siberian mammoths was an insoluble problem to Charles Darwin, who from early on preferred the idea of gradual climactic change, but later wrote in his classic "Journal of Researches into the Natural History & Geology of the Countries Visited During the Voyage of H.M.S. Beagle Round the World":
(09:52:16) (mark) i have heard that we are due for an ice age
(09:52:19) (ernie) i watch to much tv i guess
(09:52:22) (lilith) and behind the glaciers which are rapidly melting, there are glacial lakes, some of which have disappeared
(09:52:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "What then has exterminated so many species and whole genera? The mind at first is irresistibly hurried into the belief of some great catastrophe; but thus to destroy animals both large and small, in S. Patagonia, in Brazil, on the Cordillera of Peru, in N. America up to Bering’s Straits, we must shake the entire framework of the globe.
(09:53:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) No lesser physical event could have brought about this wholesale destruction not only in the Americas but in the entire world."
(09:53:10) (Richard) After a shift the old poles begain to melt and the new ones starte to form. So for a short period the earth would be covered.
(09:53:12) (ernie) it will be cool to see all that comes out of the ice
(09:53:37) (Cris) a glimpse of the future if it happens again
(09:53:45) (lilith) and you will have a ring-side seat from where? ernie? under water?
(09:54:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An area of "enormous numbers of sunken islands," suggesting a lost continent, was discovered in the west portion of the Indian Ocean close to the shores of Africa by the vessel Vityaz (Knight Errant) which explored for seven months in the Indian Ocean between Asia, Africa and Australia during 1961, as a continuation of the International Geophysical Year.
(09:54:31) (ernie) lol
(09:54:36) (ernie) im the boat guy '
(09:55:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many areas, which appeared on maps as deep blue spots, contained extensive elevations and individual mountains, as well as great accumulations of ancient animal remains, and prehistoric sharks’ teeth.
(09:55:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) A few years later Dr. Robert J. Menzies, director of Duke University’s Oceanographic Program, and his colleagues spotted and photographed carved rock columns resting on a muddy plain 6,000 ft. underwater, in the 600-mile-long Milne-Edward Deep, a trench off the coast of Peru.
(09:55:22) (lilith) And WIS, Atlantis was supposed to have been here 200 THOUSAND years ago
(09:56:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep. Lemuria pre-dates Atlantis. I never knew that tillw e started this research! I thought it was the other way around! :-)
(09:57:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Strange writing was carved on the columns and nearby, sonar detected strange lumps on the otherwise level bottom, indicative of possible building ruins. Menzies, from the research ship Anton Bruun, stated that the find suggested evidence of a sunken city, as reported in the New York Times, April 17, 1966.
(09:57:22) (Cris) Two of the crystals I have are supposed to be Lemurian crystals
(09:57:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) WOW, Cris!!!
(09:57:50) (Blu) Cool Cris, would like to photos of those
(09:57:52) (ernie) good what cris?
(09:58:10) (lilith) oh Cris - how perfectly wonderful - h ow can one get it verified??
(09:58:37) (Cris) Supposed to be..... bought at a mineral show and they will tell you anything for a sale. BUT they are different from any others I have
(09:58:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) What kind of energy do you get from them?
(09:59:02) (lilith) in what way are they different, Cris/
(09:59:14) (Cris) A quiet energy but almost a heart beat from one of them
(09:59:16) (ernie) cool i want to seeeee one
(09:59:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) AWESOME!
(09:59:48) (ernie) that is because your in tune with it
(09:59:52) (Cris) Everyone has a different reaction to them. No two people seem to feel the same thing
(09:59:53) (lilith) holy cow! h ow marvelous!
(10:00:09) (lilith) boy, would I love to hold that for a bit!!
(10:00:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Me too!
(10:00:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Back in 1947, J. H. Umbgrove, in Pulse of the Earth, had already ascertained that the deep trench off part of the Andean coast of S. America (presumably Milne-Edward) and at least one other deep submarine trench, show evidence of once being part of a continent.
(10:00:25) (ernie) and the cosmos when i sit in my tub outside i feel i can feel the whole earth breath
(10:00:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And by 1977, Amos Nur, a Stanford geophysicist, averred that a "Pacifica" was a probability, as crust centers originate under continental masses, except in the Pacific, and that "currently submerged plateaus in the ocean near Australia, including the Minihiki plateau and the Ong Java area, are remnants of this past land mass."
(10:01:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One could surmise that if the Pacific ocean basins had for eons been "bathtubs" into which detritus from the continents was sluiced, then the sea floors would be found covered with great thicknesses of sediment.
(10:01:29) (lilith) boy - almost didn't come in tonight - am sure glad I did - ty ty Walks
(10:01:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We're glad you did Lil!!!
(10:01:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And conversely, if there had been continents in those areas recently, hardly any thickness of deep-sea sediment would be found, merely a thin layer draped over a very rough topography which had once been above water, subjected to weatherizing and stress action ("subaerial topography").
(10:01:55) (Cris) Yes we are
(10:02:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And which condition was found by a sub-bottom depth profiler?
(10:02:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Science magazine, Dec. 1963, Vol. 142:
(10:02:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "From the few transoceanic profiles obtained, results suggest that the total accumulation of sediment is remarkably small, portions of the ridges are virtually bare of it, and the basement surface is almost uniformly rough."
(10:02:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Theorizing proves unnecessary, when one has physical proof at the ready. In the town library at Nance, France there is a globe, six inches in diameter, with a recorded history dating back to 1531; its continents of N. and S. America are accurately drawn but the peninsula of California is shown as an island with a group of smaller islands at its southern tip:
(10:03:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) water covers the area of the Santa Clara, San Joaquin and Sacramento valleys. An illustration of this globe can be seen in Walter Cerve’s (Wishar S. Cerve - pseudonym of Harve Spencer Lewis) Lemuria-The Lost Continent of the Pacific.
(10:03:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cerve sees this west strip of California as a remnant of the E. coast of Lemuria following avulsion. Citing as evidence the richness of valley soils, and seashells imbedded in Santa Clara’s deep soil.
(10:04:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cayce, too, stated that, "this land ... near the present Santa Barbara... that must in the near future fade again into those joinings with the land of Mu... where the entity [individual for whom the Reading was given] established a temple of worship when Lemuria or lands of Mu and Zu were in turmoils for destruction, with the shifting of the earth at that period..." (Reading #509-1).
(10:04:40) (ernie) i grew up in southern cali and used to go up the hils and mountains when i was a kid
(10:04:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In old Indian legends, Santa Catalina’s original name was "Pimu" ("land of sunken mountains") including two volcanoes; and San Miguel Island was called "Limu."
(10:04:48) (lilith) well, when did Edgar say all was to disappear?
(10:04:49) (ernie) we alwise found shells
(10:04:54) (ernie) high up to
(10:05:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm not sure on that, Lil
(10:06:12) (lilith) wll, give or take a few million years, maybe??
(10:06:46) (lilith) fifty years ago, was on top of the Continental Divide, scuffed my boot to get the dust off & these little shells scraped up!
(10:07:03) (Cris) Probably brachiopods
(10:07:11) (Blu) You mean for the next earth changes Lilith?
(10:07:24) (lilith) don't know Cris - we werem't introduced! smilin
(10:07:35) (lilith) yup, Blu
(10:07:46) (Cris) :o)
(10:07:57) (Blu) I personally don't think it will be that long lilith
(10:08:30) (Blu) we already have oceans warmed by 4 degrees and there was a volcano erupt in Hawaii today
(10:08:31) (Richard) They are happening now lilith.... The east coast of Greenland was also mentioned in the signs of things to come.... The ice there is melting faster and faster.
(10:08:40) (lilith) well, would like it to hurry - at my age, don't want to wait around much l onger for it!
(10:08:53) (Blu) yes, there is an Island in New Zealand sinking
(10:09:17) (Richard) I can dig that lil... I to am filling up with years.
(10:09:20) (Blu) we are already seeing our own coast lines change
(10:09:29) (lilith) well, our Coast isn't the same as it used to be, either, except where they filled in with the dredged sand
(10:09:53) (Blu) I don't think this is going to be fun
(10:10:00) (lilith) which will promptly wash out with the next hurricane
(10:10:17) (Blu) Hurrican Katrin is just the befinning of the loss of life
(10:10:20) (Richard) Every day I gain a bit in faith towards the time of my demise.
(10:10:23) (lilith) well, no, not fun -
(10:10:31) (ernie) its funny
(10:10:54) (Cris) I have a feeling the east coast is going to be hit this year adn I hope I'm wrong
(10:10:55) (lilith) Richard! you're not planning on helping "the time of your demise" areou?
(10:10:59) (Blu) They say the worst curse to put on someone is to say may you live in interesting times, I think we do
(10:11:16) (lilith) Mean sinking or blowing away, Cris?
(10:11:19) (Richard) Just beyond that though there is a time of
unprecedented peace and spiritual prosperity.
(10:11:26) (ernie) the people here keep moving back a couple beaches around here the second row of houses is water fron
(10:11:27) (Blu) Do you all find this material informative?
(10:11:34) (Cris) No I mean a hurricane the over built coast isn't redy for
(10:11:38) (ernie) whats funny is they keep building
(10:11:56) (lilith) oh sure - can throw a rock very short distance from me & find that
(10:12:00) (Blu) Then they will ask why did you not warn us? duh
(10:12:46) (Richard) In some ways lilith with help ourselves along a bit everyday... I feel the willingness to wait for it... but the more I study Cayce and others the more encouraged I am about post physicality consciousness,
(10:12:48) (lilith) did you see that Geographic went to Oregon Coast where the next huge tsunami is predicted & the people were TAKING THEIR CARS TO RUN TO HIGH GROUND?? Huge traffic ball-up, of course
(10:13:00) (Bill) its informative Blu but it is also Churchwards opinion there are many conflictings theorys on this subject and many can be very convincing
(10:13:22) (Cris) Right now it's more a feeling
(10:13:35) (lilith) Bill? didn't see you! Hi
(10:13:52) (lilith) no, think that's instinct, Cris
(10:14:35) (ernie) ok clue if you see all the animals running for the hills follow
(10:14:39) (Blu) Agreed Bill, some of the facts conflict but there is still enough found to show that much has been ignored
(10:14:47) (Cris) I don't feel comfortable there right now at all
(10:14:50) (Richard) The times are not so bad.. WalMart makes these killer pizzas and one is smelling up my kitchen even as we speak.
(10:14:56) (lilith) History channel on MOnday will show Hitler's dream of a new nation - he was fond of "being related to Atlanteans" !!!
(10:15:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Richard
(10:15:08) (ernie) lol
(10:15:18) (lilith) lol
(10:16:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, yall want us to go on with some more material?
(10:16:53) (merri) please do WIS
(10:16:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok!
(10:17:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) At the time of Colonel Churchward’s
death, he had been collecting research notes for a sixth book, Traces of Mu in America.
(10:17:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Would he have mentioned the more than 10,000 earth mounds in Ohio alone?
(10:17:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Did he know of the remnants of the Great Mound of Cahokia in East St. Louis, originally 97 ft. high with sides of 700 ft. x 500 ft.?
(10:17:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Was he privy to secrets of tunnel systems rumored near Mt. Shasta and throughout the western states?
(10:17:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Could he have told us more about certain Egyptian traces in Grand Canyon caves?
(10:17:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Skeletons of six-fingered giants, excavated on the California coast?
(10:17:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • And just recently, the discovery of human hair dating back 10,000 to 12,000 years ago at an archaeological dig in Woodburn, Oregon, during 1999?
(10:19:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This site is filled with elephant bones, and those of condors, sloths and a 14-ft. winged bird. Professor William Orr from U. of Oregon, after having the hair lab-tested, found that its DNA did not match that of Asian, African or European;
(10:19:21) (Cris) Tunnels under Mt, Shasta?
(10:19:25) (Blu) Churchward is referred to and sited as a reference in the book "The Great Migration"
(10:19:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) there is a plan to compare it with Japanese. Why not compare it with certain Pacific islanders’ hair DNA? You might be in for a shock.
(10:20:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "About that time period there was a huge disappearance of larger animals, in a wave, around 11,000 or 12,000 years ago," says Orr. "We are finding butterflies and insects in this old stream bed, 10 to 12 feet deep. When they are exposed to the air, they oxidize before your eyes. It’s as if they were quick frozen."
(10:20:16) (Blu) Also in other areas of the west Cris, Merlin found some interesting news articles on them
(10:20:35) (Cris) Thanks
