Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 20, 2005 21:27:47 GMT -5
Earth Changes Chat: 08-20-05
"William Hutton, author of Coming Earthchanges, and his trip and analyses of rock samples from Bimini"
(08:07:19) (Host-Nick) A couple of week ago we chatted on Greg and Lora Little's journey to Bimini. Tonight we will chat about William Hutton, author of Coming Earthchanges, and his trip and analyses of rock samples from Bimini.
(08:08:32) (Host-Nick) Especially since the analyses he prduces are from an ICP my field of expertise. :o)
(08:14:30) (Host-Nick) Reading 364-3 records.......
(08:15:02) (Host-Nick) The position as the continent Atlantis occupied, is that as between the Gulf of Mexico on the one hand - and the Mediterranean upon the other. Evidences of this lost civilization are to be found in the Pyrenees and Morocco on the one hand, British Honduras, Yucatan and America upon the other. There are some protruding portions within this that must have at one time or another been a portion of this great continent.
(08:15:39) (Host-Nick) The British West Indies or the Bahamas, and a portion of same that may be seen in the present - if the geological survey would be made in some of these - especially, or notably, in Bimini and in the Gulf Stream through this vicinity, these may be even yet determined.*
(08:16:24) (Host-Nick) So, William Hutton, went along recently to map and try to figure out this enigma, of an island which does have a magnetic anomaly.
(08:17:09) (Anonymous) Nick..could the Atomic test in tne Bimini area have changed anything
(08:17:23) (squeak113) what did he find?
(08:17:39) (Host-Nick) The problem is that if the rock underneath the coral and limestone were a normal volcanic it would have a positive magnetic anomaly. That is the magnetic field would be stronger underneath the islands. The opposite is true, however.
(08:17:56) (Raleigh) could the third hall be raised enough too nick do you feel
(08:18:18) (Raleigh) the atlantean pyramid hall of records i mean
(08:18:26) (Host-Nick) The atomic test might have from what I see, since I note rare earth metal anomalies.
(08:19:33) (Host-Nick) However, Dr. Hutton proposes that an iron poor carbonatite lava flowed throught this now undersea volcano. This would explain a lot of things.
(08:20:37) (Raleigh) pardon / i meanbn could the hall of records have been raised enough likje in 1967 event that the hallcould be seen or located / do you feel that the ocean has burried it / what is your guess nick
(08:22:08) (Anonymous) Ral....what is the hall of records you refer to?
(08:22:27) (Raleigh) there are 3
(08:22:28) (Host-Nick) Now, we find there are many things that may be said as respecting the plausibility and the advisability of making a resort city in this location. First we would give, this would not be near as large an undertaking as it appears on the face of conditions, for this may be stored away as truth for those that would go about to accomplish such conditions:
(08:22:35) (Raleigh) 1 in the atlantic
(08:23:10) (Raleigh) sorry to deflect from the lesson nick / i am interested in the hall on atlantis /
(08:23:22) (Host-Nick) This is from 966-12, a mystery set of 13 readings, the 13th has been removed. Possibily due to entities seeking to find the massive amounts of gold, spar and icthyolite, spoken of.
(08:23:39) (Host-Nick) The Hall will be discussed some other time. :o)
(08:23:47) (Raleigh) k / ty
(08:23:57) (squeak113) what are you actually saying Nick?
(08:24:09) (Host-Nick) There will be found many, many, MANY sources of revenue for those undertaking such a project, for these mountain tops – especially that along the north and eastern shores of the north and northern portion of the south island – will produce many various minerals, and various other conditions that will be remunerative when the projects are undertaken;
(08:24:44) (Host-Nick) and well that the ones that do such labors – as the dredging as necessary, the building as necessary, the walls, etc. – be followed close in their operations, for these will uncover many various conditions that may be turned into dollars – and dollars – and dollars!
(08:24:53) (Raleigh) so nick / if they get digging for a resort construction / they could unearth something huh
(08:25:15) (Host-Nick) So what happened then was rather than looking for the records, people were looking for the gold and minerals.
(08:25:32) (Host-Nick) This was from Edgar Cayce's reading, 996-12.
(08:27:11) (Host-Nick) Q) What minerals will be found here? A) gold, spar and icthyolite. Q) How deep will this be found?
(08:27:13) (squeak113) So, is that where Atlantis was? Is William Hutton trying to prove it?
(08:27:21) (Host-Nick) (A) In the wall that would be builded from the western portion of the south island towards that of the PROMINENT portions of the southern portion of isle – these will be found in the twelve to fifteen (12 to 15) foot levels. The VEIN, as workable, would be found extending in the northeast-southwest direction. The waters in the northern portion of the south island. Sweet water, see?
(08:28:09) (Qrious) its where the capital of Poisieden is suppose to be squeak. If memory serves.
(08:28:11) (Host-Nick) The Bimini islands are said to have been a portion of the continent of Atlantis. This region was among the last island to sink under.
(08:28:32) (Qrious) atlantis was huge squeak.
(08:28:35) (Raleigh) this is good to see them diggin round there / to say seal the proof of the existance of atlantis /
(08:29:06) (Raleigh) the bimini wall is not enough i feel
(08:29:32) (Host-Nick) Professor Hutton's hypothesis makes sense, since a basaltic volcano seldom explodes, it just erupts floods of lava quietly, being a silica poor lava.
(08:29:40) (Raleigh) yes q / then broken up into several islands then
(08:30:57) (Qrious) so you want them to find the evidence in south america and egypt as well then huh Ral.
(08:31:16) (Host-Nick) However, liquid carbonate, known as carbonatite in geology, could well come from an explosive source of magma. The source of this magma, would have been the boiling and metamorphosing of sediments subducted into the Puerto Rican trench, by the Caribbean plate overriding the North American plate.
(08:32:04) (Host-Nick) This is the continental plate drift occurring where the Bimini islands and the northern Caribbean are in the past million years or so.
(08:32:13) (Raleigh) this may be the gold that cayce said / he said more gold will be found that has been found in all of historyb / imagine the fall of gold to a common metal price / i heard that silver will be the excange metal btw / money will be worthless
(08:32:40) (Sparky) do the core plates of the earth stay the same ?
(08:32:48) (Host-Nick) Gold is overrated, everyone has forgotten what to use it for.
(08:33:10) (squeak113) On the discovery channel a place that they thought was a road from atlantis under water near the Bimini Islands
(08:33:17) (Qrious) Im with Nick... should be used for healing .
(08:33:27) (Raleigh) such an amazing metal nick
(08:33:41) (Sparky) or do the core plats move ?
(08:34:11) (Host-Nick) And once again, we have 440-5...
(08:34:17) (Host-Nick) As indicated, the records of the manners of construction of same are in three places in the Earth, as it stands today: {1} In the sunken portions of Atlantis, or Poseidia, where a portion of the temples may yet be discovered, under the slime of ages of sea water – {2} near what is known as Bimini, off the coast of Florida. And {3} in the temple records that were in Egypt....
(08:34:42) (Raleigh) pls explain forgot the original use for me nick
(08:35:19) (Raleigh) oh i see / belay the question nick
(08:35:26) (squeak113) thats what the discovery channel said Edgar Casey said when they were showing the road under water
(08:36:20) (Bill) the under water rock formation is simpply a natureal rock formation
(08:36:24) (Sparky) as in stone in Egypt on the phynx water not sand ?
(08:36:27) (Host-Nick) Gold was used for healing, internally, with caution, externally by the wet cell and as a bandage for burns and wounds.
(08:37:00) (Raleigh) k / ty nick / ive not hearerd this
(08:37:14) (Raleigh) oh yes i/
(08:37:25) (Raleigh) silver as well / i recall /
(08:37:35) (squeak113) how do you know, Bill?
(08:37:39) (merri) or something else Bill
(08:37:52) (merri) there is another theory about that formation
(08:38:19) (Bill) because sqeaks they've explored it and proven it and i've seen the exact formations in other parts of the world
(08:38:21) (Host-Nick) So William Hutton and his friend Mr. Eagle conducted a magnetic survey of the Bimini island region as well as conducting a geochemical analysis of soil and rock samples around the inlet and the northern portions of the two islands.
(08:38:41) (merri) they are sunken dry docks for the China exploring fleet
(08:39:17) (Qrious) China... now aint that kinda far?
(08:39:23) (squeak113) oh, well, I liked thinking it was part of Atlantis
(08:39:24) (Raleigh) yes however ec said that in 67 the t -- that atlantis will rise / it did then / the bimini road /
(08:39:28) (Qrious) from florida I mean.
(08:39:44) (squeak113) yea, the road
(08:39:51) (merri) they were exploring fleets Q
(08:39:55) (Bill) i did to sqeaks i found that info disappointing
(08:39:59) (Host-Nick) Prof. Hutton's website has detals of the survey and the maps of the area, the magnetic survey and also the results of the geochemical study.
(08:40:02) (merri) looking for new trading routes
(08:40:08) (Raleigh) i saw natual pyramids all over the sawtooth range this mo / so --
(08:40:12) (Host-Nick) The Hutton Commentaries
(08:40:13) (Qrious) fleets.. with big rocks?
(08:40:16) (Raleigh) ec said bimini
(08:40:41) (Qrious) could have been a quary for all I know Ral.
(08:40:58) (Qrious) a dry dock in not under water, I believe.
(08:41:20) (merri) they sunk
(08:41:26) (Raleigh) ive not studied the road close
(08:41:51) (Qrious) what would china have invested in comming to such a place.. the theory sounds far reaching.. no offence.
(08:42:03) (Bill) there were articals in venture inward on bimini a few yrs. ago
(08:42:03) (Sparky) a contine sunk
(08:42:13) (Host-Nick) As a result of these speculations, Hutton made a further conjecture. He suggested that there might be an unusual type of volcanic rock beneath Bimini, to account for the many varied minerals predicted in 996-12 to exist there at a shallow depth of 12-15 ft. And only a thin layer of carbonate rock in the vicinity of the Bimini inlet might cover the conjectured volcanic rock
(08:42:46) (Raleigh) k / yes / this is how say easter island quarry and pyramid egypt / granit quarries / this is a good guess q / :)
(08:43:07) (squeak113) All I can say is that EC said alot of things that were true. So one of these days we might find that what he said about Atlantis is true and prove it.
(08:43:17) (Raleigh) i love atlantis study / brbinasec
(08:43:40) (squeak113) I love atlantis study, too.
(08:43:58) (squeak113) But I especially love to here what Casey said about it.
(08:45:13) (Raleigh) ec son has a good book on this squeek
(08:45:17) (Raleigh) thomas
(08:45:25) (Host-Nick) This volcanic rock would be called an ijolite, a silica poor carbonate rih lava, which would be high in alkali elements and the rare earth elements known as lanthanides and the actinides, the radioactive elements.
(08:46:21) (squeak113) what is the name of the book, Ral?
(08:46:47) (squeak113) But didn't you say that the rock was not volcanic rock, Nick?
(08:47:45) (patricia) mysteries of atlantis revisited, squeak, that is the book
(08:48:00) (Qrious) Edgar Cayce on Atlantis squeak113.
(08:48:05) (squeak113) ok, thanks Patricia
(08:48:15) (Host-Nick) The rock underneath the coral and limestone is hypothesized to be an iron rich volcanic, squeak113. How else to account for what otherwise would be a monotonous map of even magnetism due to limestone and coral for miles beneath.
(08:48:20) (Raleigh) i dont recall / do see ec readings on atlantis though sqeek / it is so fasinatingb / see the desciption say on what they appeared as / beads / long hair / sandals / then they are to reappear in the late 60z / so / the 60z kids / neat huh
(08:48:24) (squeak113) thanks Qrious too
(08:48:35) (Host-Nick) Oops an iron-POOR, volcanic, sorry.
(08:48:36) (Bill) we need a barg and a diamond drill and head for bimini Nick
(08:50:09) (Host-Nick) The 50 odd samples collected were ana;lysed by ICP mass spectrometry for their trace elements.
(08:50:11) (Raleigh) i hope that they come up with some underwater radar or / water penetrating deal / to find that hall
(08:50:46) (Qrious) we can use satelites couldn't we.
(08:51:50) (Host-Nick) THe reason is that elements diffuse away from where they are concentrated. So remains of higher concentrations of these elements would suggest their presence underneath the surface rocks and loose sands and sediments.
(08:56:21) (WalksInSpirit) Nick, in a comparative light, do you think Dr. Hutton's findings support or oppose those of the Little's?
(08:56:23) (Qrious) So.. what you are saying is that this William dude suspects more than what his findings has found so far.. and that perhaps he will delve in deeper?
(08:57:05) (Host-Nick) And indeed a higher concentratoin of the rare-earth elements was found. The rare earth elements are meatls you have almost never heard of before. Lanthanum, Cerium, Praesodymium, Neodymium, Promethium, Samarium, Europium, Gadolinium, Terbium, Dysprosium, Holmium, Erbium, Thulium, and Ytterbium
(08:57:35) (merlin) hey nick , any new news about quakes or burps major lately.......or those ole' fum aroles
(08:57:48) (Qrious) I haven't seen these metals on the atomic chart Nick.. are they really that new?
(08:58:01) (Host-Nick) These elements are almost always found together, because of the similarities in their chemical behaviour.
(08:58:09) (merlin) cesium is one.....typo
(08:58:35) (Host-Nick) These are the lanthanides, Qrious, underneath the majority on a row of 14 by themselves.
(08:58:57) (Qrious) thanks.
(08:59:26) (merlin) cesium is one of those that run atomic clocks
(08:59:32) (Host-Nick) Actually Cesium is below Potassium and Rubidium, an alkali element. :o) Cerium actually does exist as a separate element. :o)
(08:59:33) (squeak113) I am lost on the ole metals deal. What does all that mean?
(09:00:26) (Qrious) so are these metal.. or crystals?
(09:01:04) (Host-Nick) The results indicate that Cerium and Europium are depleted, (have been washed away) from the sample, compared with the usual balance of concentrations which these elements display in relation to each other.
(09:01:37) (Host-Nick) This implies, that Professor Hutton's theory is correct. There is a source of these elements below the Bimini islands.
(09:02:10) (Raleigh) is this the atlantean pwr source then nick
(09:02:49) (Host-Nick) This analysis was done on an ICP mass spectrometer. I am an ICP spectroscopist and can corroborate the conclusions drawn in Prof. Hutton data.
(09:02:50) (Raleigh) other that the firestone
(09:03:56) (Raleigh) laser btw / see firestone redicovered in 58 / see 1st laser ruby / so nick was this a source of atlantean pwr do you mean then
(09:04:07) (Qrious) and just what use of these elements can the Prof... determine it was for... any actual practical use of them?
(09:04:42) (Host-Nick) No idea on the firestone, Raleigh
(09:07:18) (Host-Nick) These elements are abundant in alkali rich, rocks like silica poor volcanics. The lanthanides as they are known nearly always occur in the same proportions in nature. Where they have been oxidized by air and water, the elements Cerium and Europium alone will have been eroded away with respect to the others.
(09:08:07) (Qrious) the elements were oxydized then.. is he sure the ocean didn't supply these?
(09:08:44) (Host-Nick) The concentration of these elements in the oceans is failry constant and known.
(09:09:12) (Host-Nick) And differs from the concentrations found in the soil samples on Bimini island.
(09:09:31) (Host-Nick) OK, any questions? :o)
(09:09:44) (Qrious) so the elements are not indigineous to the Island?
(09:09:54) (squeak113) I got lost during the elements Nick
(09:10:01) (squeak113) I don't know what to ask?
(09:10:15) (Host-Nick) I have here one of my trusty books: Lanthanides and Actinides so ask away :o)
(09:10:42) (Qrious) are these elements found on the Island Nick.
(09:10:58) (merlin) nick ....do u think that those lanthanides could have been deposited by meteorites?
(09:11:24) (Host-Nick) Yes, to a much greater extent than would be expected if there were only limestone and coral underneath the islands.
(09:12:38) (merlin) what about that iridium nick? where does that reside on the periodic table?
(09:12:47) (Qrious) why don't they just investigate the island of clues.. there should be some in the soil.. or something.
(09:13:33) (Host-Nick) It may be then that Professor Hutton has found the key. That it is not the everyday average basalt lava which is found underneath the Bahamas and the Bimini islands. It is this rare volcanic ijolite rock.
(09:14:07) (squeak113) now that makes sense
(09:14:20) (Host-Nick) Iridium belongs to the left of Platinum, and is also a precious metal when found in quantity.
(09:14:49) (Host-Nick) This is a key discovery in the search for Atlantis.
(09:16:03) (Host-Nick) If there had been a basalt volcano underneath the islands it would have shown up as a positive magnetic anomaly. And geologists might have found it already.
(09:16:41) (Host-Nick) No one, before Professor Hutton, thought of the possibility of another kind of volcanic.
(09:18:49) (merlin) is there really a kryptonite nick?
(09:20:48) (Host-Nick) There is a Krypton, element; no I am a choke artist on exams :oP
(09:21:26) (ernie) diddo
(09:21:37) (patricia) i a sure you did better than you think Nick. Thanks for tonites chat.
(09:21:54) (lovey) yes nickwhy, great night, thanks, but could you repeat it, I didn't understand a word ya said, ;o)..!
(09:21:59) (Roz) very informative Nick thanks
(09:22:46) (Host-Nick) From a geological point of view, the presence of this ijolite volcano would support the Caribbean island chain being a part of a geological plate. But more on that next time.
(09:22:47) (Qrious) thank for the info Nick..