Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 17, 2007 22:04:10 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 08-17-07
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(09:16:34) (merri) How has the dreaming been going for everyone?
(09:17:10) (Raleigh) mine are getting longer merri
(09:17:14) (vjh) I had a dream about 3 weeks ago that was obvious.
(09:17:43) (merri) good Ral...care to share?
(09:18:04) (Raleigh) they got different when i stopped playing tv and radio all night btw //
(09:18:12) (Raleigh) k
(09:18:33) (Raleigh) i have a piece or two i had last night
(09:18:40) (Raleigh) gimme 2 min...
(09:19:08) (Raleigh) so i was driving a big rig on a snowy curvy highway ---
(09:19:38) (Raleigh) an ugly black 40z car tried to pass me --
(09:19:45) (~WalksInSpirit) Raleigh, it's not good to leave the tv or radio playing while you sleep. You pick up anything and everything subconsciously. Like they say... "Garbage in, garbage out." It's just not a healthy thing to do.
(09:20:05) (Raleigh) i wouldnt let him and slicks words my uncle came to me ---
(09:20:33) (vjh) I believe that. One Friday night I left my tv on and slept in front of it and I woke up having a nightmare that was part of some horror who on TV.
(09:20:41) (Raleigh) ok w / i was playin chistian radio / but still it hurt my dreams i feel /
(09:21:08) (Raleigh) so slicks words came to me and said push fwd hard ---
(09:21:33) (Raleigh) p u s h = pray till something happens btw / :) ----
(09:22:20) (Raleigh) so i feel it is my past
(09:22:25) (Raleigh) the black car --
(09:22:37) (~WalksInSpirit) Even with Christian radio, there might be things on there that in the waking state you would disagree with, yet in the subconscious state, they get stuck deeper in your subconscious without your being able to prevent it.
(09:22:43) (Raleigh) tryin to invade my future---
(09:23:07) (merri) looks like your journey will have lots of "curves" Ral
(09:23:26) (Raleigh) so i wont hit the brakes on the snowy road / i will be brave and go forward // end dream
(09:23:52) (Raleigh) maybe that was slicks spirits encouragement i feell ///
(09:24:07) (Raleigh) yes meeri //
(09:24:44) (Roz) you are meetiing the darknesss with wisdoom darkness is the unknown
(09:25:54) (merri) snow=light, black car=darkness
(09:25:57) (Raleigh) i was at night roz
(09:26:21) (Raleigh) yeah i feel the black 40z car was bad
(09:26:37) (Raleigh) i had to stay ahead of it /
(09:26:44) (Raleigh) my past i feel //
(09:26:55) (Diane) road rage - at your past. lol
(09:26:59) (ron1) Pray, that the past don't catch up with you...
(09:27:02) (Raleigh) yes/ :)
(09:27:08) (Raleigh) right
(09:27:33) (Raleigh) the neatest part was i felt a lil anxious then slicks words came to me
(09:27:39) (Raleigh) :)
(09:27:47) (Raleigh) be strong
(09:27:50) (Raleigh) :)
(09:28:15) (merri) words of advice from the past
(09:29:16) (ron1) Maybe I should have said, pray so that past does not catch up with you...
(09:29:45) (merri) vj do you want to tell us your dream?
(09:29:54) (Raleigh) i have been bigtime
(09:29:58) (Raleigh) tx ron
(09:30:03) (vjh) Ok.
(09:30:07) (ron1) Yes ral...:)
(09:30:20) (vjh) I was ridiing a bycycle and the hand
(09:30:36) (vjh) Now my computer is act
(09:30:43) (vjh) acting up.
(09:30:58) (vjh) I was riding a bike.
(09:31:07) (Raleigh) so ty merri / yes i should look ahead a bit cause the road has a few curves huh?
(09:31:09) (vjh) And the handlebars were o
(09:31:15) (vjh) too high.
(09:31:21) (merri) yes Ral
(09:31:24) (Raleigh) and yes walks i will stop the late tv ///
(09:31:27) (vjh) I've been having financial
(09:31:38) (vjh) problems lately. I'm sure
(09:31:50) (vjh) that that's what it meant.
(09:32:03) (vjh) I had more than I could handle.
(09:32:18) (Roz) too high to handle properly
(09:32:29) (merri) good insight vj
(09:32:42) (Diane) makes sense
(09:33:02) (ron1) At least, vjh, you didn't lose your balance riding this bike...:)
(09:34:08) (vjh) I was going down a narrow hall in
(09:34:20) (vjh) part of the dream. I had to keep
(09:34:31) (vjh) balance in order to keep from hitting
(09:34:40) (vjh) the sides of the wall.
(09:35:02) (ron1) Heading for a change...:)
(09:36:01) (vjh) I have a Saturn square right now.
(09:36:07) (Roz) managing your own vehicle
(09:37:02) (merri) good points
(09:37:15) (ron1) With Saturn transit aspect, you are feeling limitation and stress...will be over soon..problems will lesson quite a bit...life become much more enjoayble
(09:37:45) (Raleigh) reach up to get a handle on and balance of yourself so you can stay on the narrow path
(09:37:49) (Raleigh) :)
(09:38:14) (mabel) sounds good Raleigh
(09:39:34) (merri) you seem to be handling things quite well vj
(09:41:46) (merri) when I was in NY I shared some excerpts from "Dreaming with the Wheel"....thought I'd share them with you folks here tonight
(09:42:11) (~WalksInSpirit) Oh, that is an awesome book!
(09:43:12) (merri) Envisioning the World
(09:43:51) (merri) Shawnodese:I remember that spirit seemed to whisper in my ear, first that I shouldn't worry, he was working only for the good. Then he told me what a difficult human I had been to work with, how my clarity of mind forced the spirit and energy forces to go to extremes. I was so mindful that I resisted all of the energies; I was so caught in my mind that I could not even tell the difference between what felt like good ones and
(09:44:43) (merri) that weren't so good. I was told that I had brought on all the testings I had had, because I had clung to my own mind so tightly. That voice in my ear told me that my mind would not let me trust anyone, not even you, Sun Bear.
(09:45:30) (merri) So nothing could break through my barriers with love, since you can't love very well without trusting. I was too grounded on the earth to be able to fall into a trance of ecstatic joy from singing or dancing. That spirit told me there was little choice except to scare me out of my mind enough to open it to the rest of my being.
(09:46:06) (merri) It worked. I finally got frightened enough that I let go, at least for a few minutes every once in a while, of the strong hold that my mind had over my heart and all the rest of me.
(09:46:54) (merri) The voice I heard that night told me what my path was to be. I was told that the earth is sick with the illness coming from man's mind, the mind working apart from the heart. I was told that humans must heal the diseases humanity has caused on the earth, or else we as a species could end up dying off, just like the dinosaurs. That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the hea
(09:47:55) (merri) That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself between the male and the female, between the mind and the heart, so I would know how to help with healing the planet. I was told my help is needed, and that the dance that flowed into my body that night was the dance of life. I was told the dance from that time on would always be within my heart, would give me life and vitality, that each
(09:48:45) (merri) That voice kept telling me, "Remember the dance. All of life is part of the dance."
(09:49:10) (merri) my favorite line!
(09:51:54) (merri) So nothing could break through my barriers with love, since you can't love very well without trusting. I was too grounded on the earth to be able to fall into a trance of ecstatic joy from singing or dancing.
(09:52:30) (merri) That spirit told me there was little choice except to scare me out of my mind enough to open it to the rest of my being. It worked. I finally got frightened enough that I let go, at least for a few minutes every once in a while, of the strong hold that my mind had over my heart and all the rest of me.
(09:53:48) (merri) The voice I heard that night told me what my path was to be. I was told that the earth is sick with the illness coming from man's mind, the mind working apart from the heart. I was told that humans must heal the diseases humanity has caused on the earth, or else we
(09:54:29) (merri) as a species could end up dying off, just like the dinosaurs. That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the heart to help the mind. That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself
(09:57:05) (merri) That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the heart to help the mind. That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself
(09:57:41) (merri) between the male and the female, between the mind and the heart, so I would know how to help with healing the planet. I was told my help is needed, and that the dance that flowed into my body that night was the dance of life. I was told the dance from that time
(09:58:06) (merri) on would always be within my heart, would give me life and vitality, that each time my heart beat I would remember the dance and that one day I would share it and help to awaken others.
(09:58:36) (merri) That voice kept telling me, "Remember the dance. All of life is part of the dance."
(09:58:39) (@gg) Awww, thank you Merri.
(09:59:09) (merri) Sorry....kept loosing my place when stopping in the middle of a line
(09:59:16) (Diane) That was beautiful, merri. ty
(09:59:18) (Raleigh) like this asys above cayce says that it is best to continue to trust because one may come along that would bless you ///
(09:59:40) (Diane) very good, Ral
(10:00:49) (merri) Sun Bear: To make sure I have good dreams, I take a moment to think about the day that has passed. Sometimes I put a special dream object near my bed to help me dream: a crystal or stone or special gift. Then I pray for dreams to give me direction or to help me
(10:00:51) (Roz) good Merri
(10:01:30) (merri) on my path. I hold my dream power object and I pray for strong dreams. I pray that I get the help I need from the Creator and from the spirits so that I know all I can about my life
(10:01:53) (merri) path and what I need to do to go in the right directions on my path. I believe I can bring good dreams to myself if I seek them and pray.
(10:02:46) (merri) Here is a visualization that maybe helpful: Imagine there is an old stone well in a meadow. It's a beautiful day, and you are resting beside the well. On the rim of the well are written the words "the well of blank's unconscious". Put your name in the blank. For
(10:03:08) (Raleigh) gee cris should see this about the stones
(10:03:25) (merri) example, the rim of my well has "the well of Marilee's unconscious" written on it. Now take a few moments to relax into the scene of the meadow, the well, and the beauty of the day. Next, imagine you have a pen and a pad of paper. Write the following statements: "
(10:04:11) (merri) I, blank (fill in your name) now release whatever I need to release and accept whatever I need to accept to remember my dreams now. You, (your name) now release whatever you need to release and accept whatever you need to accept to remember your dreams now.
(10:05:13) (merri) The End....for now...LOL
(10:05:19) (Raleigh) k
(10:05:36) (@gg) That is neat, Merri.
(10:05:37) (Raleigh) neat idea merri / tx
(10:05:49) (merri) this is really a great book to read
(10:06:05) (~WalksInSpirit) That was great, Merri! Thank you! I love Sun Bear's teachings, especially on dreams.
(10:06:40) (merri) Yes WIS, everyone at the seminar loved it!!
(10:07:15) (~WalksInSpirit) Awesome! :-D
(10:07:32) (merri) and remember everyone....Life is a Dance!!
(10:08:03) (merri) now that is a vision to sleep on!!
(10:08:08) (~WalksInSpirit) There's a country song that goes "Lifes a dance we learn as we go"
(10:08:10) (Raleigh) they are having sun dances just down the highway here /
(10:08:28) (merri) kooool
(10:08:31) (@gg) Ummmm, and for me it is a nice slow melancholy waltz. :-)
(10:08:36) (Raleigh) shoshone / bannock festival not far from here this weekend
(10:08:37) (Diane) Old saying: When we dance, we need to pay the fiddler. lol
(10:08:43) (~WalksInSpirit) A Sun Dance isn't an actual dance.
(10:08:52) (Raleigh) hummm / k
(10:09:00) (Raleigh) prayer?
(10:09:06) (merri) that too Di!!
(10:09:15) (Raleigh) i asked eli what it was
(10:09:17) (Diane) *sigh
(10:09:24) (Raleigh) she is shoshone btw
(10:10:06) (merri) ok anyone else with a dream to share?
(10:10:10) (Raleigh) just a hundred miles away
(10:10:15) (Raleigh) a pow wow
(10:10:21) (Raleigh) now i wanna go / :)
(10:11:29) (~WalksInSpirit) During a Sun Dance, a very large tall pole is set up and the participants are pierced through the chest muscles on each side (deltoid muscles) and bone pieces are inserted through the slits. They are connected to rawhide straps that are connected to the top of the hole. The "dancers" pull back against the pole until the skin breaks free of the rawhide straps and bone inserts in the chest muscles.
(10:11:58) (merri) Yikes!!
(10:12:09) (Diane) Ditto!
(10:12:23) (Raleigh) likeman called horse movie
(10:12:25) (Raleigh) ?
(10:12:28) (mabel) is it done to have visions?
(10:12:30) (@gg) My parents took me along with the family that was at home to Sioux Falls, in South Dakota when I was a child. They were holding a pow wow and dancing. A feathered chief, I guess, invited me to dance with him and he showed me how. I must have been about eight or nine and I loved it. I felt right at home.
(10:12:56) (~WalksInSpirit) A participant offers his pain to Creator. In return, he goes into an altered state of consciousness and recieves powerful visions.
(10:13:05) (Raleigh) hummm
(10:13:13) (~WalksInSpirit) Right, Raleigh. Just like that movie.
(10:13:18) (Raleigh) gee
(10:13:26) (merri) what a wonderful memory Lory
(10:14:06) (~WalksInSpirit) The ground that the "dance" takes place on is consecrated and is covered in sage.
(10:14:22) (@gg) Thank you Merri. I have lots of wonderful memories and so grateful for them.
(10:15:27) (merri) do participants suffer serious injury WIS?
(10:15:36) (~WalksInSpirit) I have some sage that was presented to me that was used in a Sun Dance ceremony in Pine Ridge, South Dakota.
(10:15:40) (@gg) Sounds like it, Merri.
(10:16:09) (mabel) so Raleigh--why not take Eli to the Pow-wow? your car is ready to go and so are you??
(10:16:12) (~WalksInSpirit) Just a couple of cut places in the chest - one on each side.
(10:16:14) (@gg) Was that by the Sioux, WalksInSpirit?
(10:16:33) (~WalksInSpirit) Yes Ma'am, Grandmother. The Lakota Sioux.
(10:16:38) (Raleigh) you guys are getting me all hopped up now / id like to see this festival //
(10:17:11) (Raleigh) she doesnd hmmm / take such an interest in her heritage she said M
(10:17:17) (@gg) We have Yavapai Indians here in Prescott, but I never hear of them having pow wows or dances.
(10:18:07) (~WalksInSpirit) It is their Traditional Ceremony. It's unique to them specifically.
(10:18:31) (~WalksInSpirit) Historically, no other People practiced it.
(10:18:35) (Diane) Wonderful chat merri, ty. Goodnight all!
(10:18:37) (@gg) I'd sure like to attend a Ceremony like that.
(10:19:09) (~WalksInSpirit) Nowdays, several Nations practice it.
(10:19:16) (Raleigh) man
(10:19:29) (~WalksInSpirit) Most all Plains Peoples.
(10:19:30) (Raleigh) this is in pocatello i think
(10:19:41) (Raleigh) wheres my maps / :)
(10:19:47) (merri) do they talk about their visions?
(10:19:53) (Raleigh) ok merri / ty for the class
(10:20:12) (~WalksInSpirit) They will to the Holy Man to get help with an interpretation, but not to anyone else.
(10:20:14) (merri) TY for sharing
(10:20:50) (~WalksInSpirit) To tell someone else your vision is to give away the power that vision gave you.
(10:21:25) (@gg) Of course, we would consider that superstition today, but I can imagine they were really serious in their belief.
(10:22:19) (~WalksInSpirit) A lot of these ceremonies and vision quests were done before battles. Warriors got instructions on what patterns and what colors to make their face paint from these visions, among other things.
(10:23:13) (@gg) You should share more of your ceremonial experiences, WalksInSpirit. I really enjoy them for they are extremely interesting.
(10:23:54) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Grandmother! Maybe one night we'll have a get-together here in chat and talk on it more. :-)
(10:24:04) (merri) koooool
(10:24:05) (@gg) That would be nice.
(10:24:59) (merri) some of the chiefs who have shared their visions were very insightful
(10:30:10) (mabel) thanks everyone for chat--good night
(10:55:01) (merri) well it's dreamtime for me....Blessings All
(10:55:15) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Merri! Thanks for chat!
(09:16:34) (merri) How has the dreaming been going for everyone?
(09:17:10) (Raleigh) mine are getting longer merri
(09:17:14) (vjh) I had a dream about 3 weeks ago that was obvious.
(09:17:43) (merri) good Ral...care to share?
(09:18:04) (Raleigh) they got different when i stopped playing tv and radio all night btw //
(09:18:12) (Raleigh) k
(09:18:33) (Raleigh) i have a piece or two i had last night
(09:18:40) (Raleigh) gimme 2 min...
(09:19:08) (Raleigh) so i was driving a big rig on a snowy curvy highway ---
(09:19:38) (Raleigh) an ugly black 40z car tried to pass me --
(09:19:45) (~WalksInSpirit) Raleigh, it's not good to leave the tv or radio playing while you sleep. You pick up anything and everything subconsciously. Like they say... "Garbage in, garbage out." It's just not a healthy thing to do.
(09:20:05) (Raleigh) i wouldnt let him and slicks words my uncle came to me ---
(09:20:33) (vjh) I believe that. One Friday night I left my tv on and slept in front of it and I woke up having a nightmare that was part of some horror who on TV.
(09:20:41) (Raleigh) ok w / i was playin chistian radio / but still it hurt my dreams i feel /
(09:21:08) (Raleigh) so slicks words came to me and said push fwd hard ---
(09:21:33) (Raleigh) p u s h = pray till something happens btw / :) ----
(09:22:20) (Raleigh) so i feel it is my past
(09:22:25) (Raleigh) the black car --
(09:22:37) (~WalksInSpirit) Even with Christian radio, there might be things on there that in the waking state you would disagree with, yet in the subconscious state, they get stuck deeper in your subconscious without your being able to prevent it.
(09:22:43) (Raleigh) tryin to invade my future---
(09:23:07) (merri) looks like your journey will have lots of "curves" Ral
(09:23:26) (Raleigh) so i wont hit the brakes on the snowy road / i will be brave and go forward // end dream
(09:23:52) (Raleigh) maybe that was slicks spirits encouragement i feell ///
(09:24:07) (Raleigh) yes meeri //
(09:24:44) (Roz) you are meetiing the darknesss with wisdoom darkness is the unknown
(09:25:54) (merri) snow=light, black car=darkness
(09:25:57) (Raleigh) i was at night roz
(09:26:21) (Raleigh) yeah i feel the black 40z car was bad
(09:26:37) (Raleigh) i had to stay ahead of it /
(09:26:44) (Raleigh) my past i feel //
(09:26:55) (Diane) road rage - at your past. lol
(09:26:59) (ron1) Pray, that the past don't catch up with you...
(09:27:02) (Raleigh) yes/ :)
(09:27:08) (Raleigh) right
(09:27:33) (Raleigh) the neatest part was i felt a lil anxious then slicks words came to me
(09:27:39) (Raleigh) :)
(09:27:47) (Raleigh) be strong
(09:27:50) (Raleigh) :)
(09:28:15) (merri) words of advice from the past
(09:29:16) (ron1) Maybe I should have said, pray so that past does not catch up with you...
(09:29:45) (merri) vj do you want to tell us your dream?
(09:29:54) (Raleigh) i have been bigtime
(09:29:58) (Raleigh) tx ron
(09:30:03) (vjh) Ok.
(09:30:07) (ron1) Yes ral...:)
(09:30:20) (vjh) I was ridiing a bycycle and the hand
(09:30:36) (vjh) Now my computer is act
(09:30:43) (vjh) acting up.
(09:30:58) (vjh) I was riding a bike.
(09:31:07) (Raleigh) so ty merri / yes i should look ahead a bit cause the road has a few curves huh?
(09:31:09) (vjh) And the handlebars were o
(09:31:15) (vjh) too high.
(09:31:21) (merri) yes Ral
(09:31:24) (Raleigh) and yes walks i will stop the late tv ///
(09:31:27) (vjh) I've been having financial
(09:31:38) (vjh) problems lately. I'm sure
(09:31:50) (vjh) that that's what it meant.
(09:32:03) (vjh) I had more than I could handle.
(09:32:18) (Roz) too high to handle properly
(09:32:29) (merri) good insight vj
(09:32:42) (Diane) makes sense
(09:33:02) (ron1) At least, vjh, you didn't lose your balance riding this bike...:)
(09:34:08) (vjh) I was going down a narrow hall in
(09:34:20) (vjh) part of the dream. I had to keep
(09:34:31) (vjh) balance in order to keep from hitting
(09:34:40) (vjh) the sides of the wall.
(09:35:02) (ron1) Heading for a change...:)
(09:36:01) (vjh) I have a Saturn square right now.
(09:36:07) (Roz) managing your own vehicle
(09:37:02) (merri) good points
(09:37:15) (ron1) With Saturn transit aspect, you are feeling limitation and stress...will be over soon..problems will lesson quite a bit...life become much more enjoayble
(09:37:45) (Raleigh) reach up to get a handle on and balance of yourself so you can stay on the narrow path
(09:37:49) (Raleigh) :)
(09:38:14) (mabel) sounds good Raleigh
(09:39:34) (merri) you seem to be handling things quite well vj
(09:41:46) (merri) when I was in NY I shared some excerpts from "Dreaming with the Wheel"....thought I'd share them with you folks here tonight
(09:42:11) (~WalksInSpirit) Oh, that is an awesome book!
(09:43:12) (merri) Envisioning the World
(09:43:51) (merri) Shawnodese:I remember that spirit seemed to whisper in my ear, first that I shouldn't worry, he was working only for the good. Then he told me what a difficult human I had been to work with, how my clarity of mind forced the spirit and energy forces to go to extremes. I was so mindful that I resisted all of the energies; I was so caught in my mind that I could not even tell the difference between what felt like good ones and
(09:44:43) (merri) that weren't so good. I was told that I had brought on all the testings I had had, because I had clung to my own mind so tightly. That voice in my ear told me that my mind would not let me trust anyone, not even you, Sun Bear.
(09:45:30) (merri) So nothing could break through my barriers with love, since you can't love very well without trusting. I was too grounded on the earth to be able to fall into a trance of ecstatic joy from singing or dancing. That spirit told me there was little choice except to scare me out of my mind enough to open it to the rest of my being.
(09:46:06) (merri) It worked. I finally got frightened enough that I let go, at least for a few minutes every once in a while, of the strong hold that my mind had over my heart and all the rest of me.
(09:46:54) (merri) The voice I heard that night told me what my path was to be. I was told that the earth is sick with the illness coming from man's mind, the mind working apart from the heart. I was told that humans must heal the diseases humanity has caused on the earth, or else we as a species could end up dying off, just like the dinosaurs. That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the hea
(09:47:55) (merri) That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself between the male and the female, between the mind and the heart, so I would know how to help with healing the planet. I was told my help is needed, and that the dance that flowed into my body that night was the dance of life. I was told the dance from that time on would always be within my heart, would give me life and vitality, that each
(09:48:45) (merri) That voice kept telling me, "Remember the dance. All of life is part of the dance."
(09:49:10) (merri) my favorite line!
(09:51:54) (merri) So nothing could break through my barriers with love, since you can't love very well without trusting. I was too grounded on the earth to be able to fall into a trance of ecstatic joy from singing or dancing.
(09:52:30) (merri) That spirit told me there was little choice except to scare me out of my mind enough to open it to the rest of my being. It worked. I finally got frightened enough that I let go, at least for a few minutes every once in a while, of the strong hold that my mind had over my heart and all the rest of me.
(09:53:48) (merri) The voice I heard that night told me what my path was to be. I was told that the earth is sick with the illness coming from man's mind, the mind working apart from the heart. I was told that humans must heal the diseases humanity has caused on the earth, or else we
(09:54:29) (merri) as a species could end up dying off, just like the dinosaurs. That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the heart to help the mind. That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself
(09:57:05) (merri) That voice told me the male is the mind and the female is the heart, and that it was time for the heart to help the mind. That voice encouraged me to find my own strengths, to heal the separation within myself
(09:57:41) (merri) between the male and the female, between the mind and the heart, so I would know how to help with healing the planet. I was told my help is needed, and that the dance that flowed into my body that night was the dance of life. I was told the dance from that time
(09:58:06) (merri) on would always be within my heart, would give me life and vitality, that each time my heart beat I would remember the dance and that one day I would share it and help to awaken others.
(09:58:36) (merri) That voice kept telling me, "Remember the dance. All of life is part of the dance."
(09:58:39) (@gg) Awww, thank you Merri.
(09:59:09) (merri) Sorry....kept loosing my place when stopping in the middle of a line
(09:59:16) (Diane) That was beautiful, merri. ty
(09:59:18) (Raleigh) like this asys above cayce says that it is best to continue to trust because one may come along that would bless you ///
(09:59:40) (Diane) very good, Ral
(10:00:49) (merri) Sun Bear: To make sure I have good dreams, I take a moment to think about the day that has passed. Sometimes I put a special dream object near my bed to help me dream: a crystal or stone or special gift. Then I pray for dreams to give me direction or to help me
(10:00:51) (Roz) good Merri
(10:01:30) (merri) on my path. I hold my dream power object and I pray for strong dreams. I pray that I get the help I need from the Creator and from the spirits so that I know all I can about my life
(10:01:53) (merri) path and what I need to do to go in the right directions on my path. I believe I can bring good dreams to myself if I seek them and pray.
(10:02:46) (merri) Here is a visualization that maybe helpful: Imagine there is an old stone well in a meadow. It's a beautiful day, and you are resting beside the well. On the rim of the well are written the words "the well of blank's unconscious". Put your name in the blank. For
(10:03:08) (Raleigh) gee cris should see this about the stones
(10:03:25) (merri) example, the rim of my well has "the well of Marilee's unconscious" written on it. Now take a few moments to relax into the scene of the meadow, the well, and the beauty of the day. Next, imagine you have a pen and a pad of paper. Write the following statements: "
(10:04:11) (merri) I, blank (fill in your name) now release whatever I need to release and accept whatever I need to accept to remember my dreams now. You, (your name) now release whatever you need to release and accept whatever you need to accept to remember your dreams now.
(10:05:13) (merri) The End....for now...LOL
(10:05:19) (Raleigh) k
(10:05:36) (@gg) That is neat, Merri.
(10:05:37) (Raleigh) neat idea merri / tx
(10:05:49) (merri) this is really a great book to read
(10:06:05) (~WalksInSpirit) That was great, Merri! Thank you! I love Sun Bear's teachings, especially on dreams.
(10:06:40) (merri) Yes WIS, everyone at the seminar loved it!!
(10:07:15) (~WalksInSpirit) Awesome! :-D
(10:07:32) (merri) and remember everyone....Life is a Dance!!
(10:08:03) (merri) now that is a vision to sleep on!!
(10:08:08) (~WalksInSpirit) There's a country song that goes "Lifes a dance we learn as we go"
(10:08:10) (Raleigh) they are having sun dances just down the highway here /
(10:08:28) (merri) kooool
(10:08:31) (@gg) Ummmm, and for me it is a nice slow melancholy waltz. :-)
(10:08:36) (Raleigh) shoshone / bannock festival not far from here this weekend
(10:08:37) (Diane) Old saying: When we dance, we need to pay the fiddler. lol
(10:08:43) (~WalksInSpirit) A Sun Dance isn't an actual dance.
(10:08:52) (Raleigh) hummm / k
(10:09:00) (Raleigh) prayer?
(10:09:06) (merri) that too Di!!
(10:09:15) (Raleigh) i asked eli what it was
(10:09:17) (Diane) *sigh
(10:09:24) (Raleigh) she is shoshone btw
(10:10:06) (merri) ok anyone else with a dream to share?
(10:10:10) (Raleigh) just a hundred miles away
(10:10:15) (Raleigh) a pow wow
(10:10:21) (Raleigh) now i wanna go / :)
(10:11:29) (~WalksInSpirit) During a Sun Dance, a very large tall pole is set up and the participants are pierced through the chest muscles on each side (deltoid muscles) and bone pieces are inserted through the slits. They are connected to rawhide straps that are connected to the top of the hole. The "dancers" pull back against the pole until the skin breaks free of the rawhide straps and bone inserts in the chest muscles.
(10:11:58) (merri) Yikes!!
(10:12:09) (Diane) Ditto!
(10:12:23) (Raleigh) likeman called horse movie
(10:12:25) (Raleigh) ?
(10:12:28) (mabel) is it done to have visions?
(10:12:30) (@gg) My parents took me along with the family that was at home to Sioux Falls, in South Dakota when I was a child. They were holding a pow wow and dancing. A feathered chief, I guess, invited me to dance with him and he showed me how. I must have been about eight or nine and I loved it. I felt right at home.
(10:12:56) (~WalksInSpirit) A participant offers his pain to Creator. In return, he goes into an altered state of consciousness and recieves powerful visions.
(10:13:05) (Raleigh) hummm
(10:13:13) (~WalksInSpirit) Right, Raleigh. Just like that movie.
(10:13:18) (Raleigh) gee
(10:13:26) (merri) what a wonderful memory Lory
(10:14:06) (~WalksInSpirit) The ground that the "dance" takes place on is consecrated and is covered in sage.
(10:14:22) (@gg) Thank you Merri. I have lots of wonderful memories and so grateful for them.
(10:15:27) (merri) do participants suffer serious injury WIS?
(10:15:36) (~WalksInSpirit) I have some sage that was presented to me that was used in a Sun Dance ceremony in Pine Ridge, South Dakota.
(10:15:40) (@gg) Sounds like it, Merri.
(10:16:09) (mabel) so Raleigh--why not take Eli to the Pow-wow? your car is ready to go and so are you??
(10:16:12) (~WalksInSpirit) Just a couple of cut places in the chest - one on each side.
(10:16:14) (@gg) Was that by the Sioux, WalksInSpirit?
(10:16:33) (~WalksInSpirit) Yes Ma'am, Grandmother. The Lakota Sioux.
(10:16:38) (Raleigh) you guys are getting me all hopped up now / id like to see this festival //
(10:17:11) (Raleigh) she doesnd hmmm / take such an interest in her heritage she said M
(10:17:17) (@gg) We have Yavapai Indians here in Prescott, but I never hear of them having pow wows or dances.
(10:18:07) (~WalksInSpirit) It is their Traditional Ceremony. It's unique to them specifically.
(10:18:31) (~WalksInSpirit) Historically, no other People practiced it.
(10:18:35) (Diane) Wonderful chat merri, ty. Goodnight all!
(10:18:37) (@gg) I'd sure like to attend a Ceremony like that.
(10:19:09) (~WalksInSpirit) Nowdays, several Nations practice it.
(10:19:16) (Raleigh) man
(10:19:29) (~WalksInSpirit) Most all Plains Peoples.
(10:19:30) (Raleigh) this is in pocatello i think
(10:19:41) (Raleigh) wheres my maps / :)
(10:19:47) (merri) do they talk about their visions?
(10:19:53) (Raleigh) ok merri / ty for the class
(10:20:12) (~WalksInSpirit) They will to the Holy Man to get help with an interpretation, but not to anyone else.
(10:20:14) (merri) TY for sharing
(10:20:50) (~WalksInSpirit) To tell someone else your vision is to give away the power that vision gave you.
(10:21:25) (@gg) Of course, we would consider that superstition today, but I can imagine they were really serious in their belief.
(10:22:19) (~WalksInSpirit) A lot of these ceremonies and vision quests were done before battles. Warriors got instructions on what patterns and what colors to make their face paint from these visions, among other things.
(10:23:13) (@gg) You should share more of your ceremonial experiences, WalksInSpirit. I really enjoy them for they are extremely interesting.
(10:23:54) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Grandmother! Maybe one night we'll have a get-together here in chat and talk on it more. :-)
(10:24:04) (merri) koooool
(10:24:05) (@gg) That would be nice.
(10:24:59) (merri) some of the chiefs who have shared their visions were very insightful
(10:30:10) (mabel) thanks everyone for chat--good night
(10:55:01) (merri) well it's dreamtime for me....Blessings All
(10:55:15) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Merri! Thanks for chat!
