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Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 22:51:14 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 10-27-06 (09:11:27) (docyabut) hi ron well any dreams?
(09:12:04) (docyabut) i can just about figure all mine out
(09:12:40) (Guest-Host_ron) ok doc...to start we can share a few dreams
(09:13:00) (Alrodnam) i have one i would like to have some input on
(09:13:02) (Guest-Host_ron) does anyone have a dream to share with us?
(09:13:05) (Mandy) I would love to hear someones dream
(09:13:14) (Guest-Host_ron) go right ahead Al
(09:13:25) (Alrodnam) i can only remember some of it
(09:13:29) (docyabut) right on alro
(09:13:41) (Alrodnam) i cant remember begining and not all im sure of
(09:13:59) (Guest-Host_ron) thats ok...what you remember be important
(09:14:08) (Alrodnam) it is about this snake
(09:14:29) (Alrodnam) it is green bright green like fresh mown lawn grass colour
(09:15:25) (Guest-Host_ron) do you remember what this snake was doing in your dream?
(09:15:27) (Alrodnam) it is about the widthh of a finger and very long i dont know how long , its crawling over me and im amazed it doesnt bite
(09:15:52) (Guest-Host_ron) oh...no threat to you
(09:16:28) (Alrodnam) ..later i seem to be taking a trip on like a coach ......yet i dont see coach just a feeling like old fasioned horse and cart, yet i dont remember seeing this
(09:16:43) (Guest-Host_ron) you think that might indicate an inner healing?...how have you been feeling lately?
(09:16:51) (Alrodnam) i also feel a woman is either next to or above me
(09:17:11) (Alrodnam) feel same person ron
(09:17:42) (Wanda) Goodness. More snakes. I have been seeing and dreaming of snakes lately Alrod
(09:17:54) (Alrodnam) because we going on a trip , i think i put the snake in a bag, brown paper bag and put in a backpack i think
(09:18:22) (Alrodnam) later i take it out coz i think its mad
(09:18:29) (Mandy) lol
(09:19:13) (Alrodnam) iim a bit frightened it will bite but it doesnt crawls over me but i getfeeling i shouldnt attempt to restrict it
(09:19:22) (Guest-Host_ron) not giving what is needed attention (about something) in your life, your health?
(09:20:06) (Alrodnam) woman seems in agreement with me, it leaves me sort of stretches down to the earth to right side into straw grass?
(09:20:19) (Alrodnam) hmm Ron
(09:20:32) (Alrodnam) next the scene shifts
(09:20:44) (Guest-Host_ron) wow, you remember quite a bit
(09:21:00) (Alrodnam) i am observing a pool of water with what i think are crocodiles 3 of them in it
(09:21:09) (docyabut) a relationship problem ?
(09:21:54) (Alrodnam) the woman i believe the same woman is in it , in this pool they all facing her and im afraid she will be bitten
(09:22:27) (Alrodnam) but she says they not crocodiles...they are extinct??....that they are alligaters
(09:23:00) (Alrodnam) the woman much to my amazement doesnt get bitten.........thats it i dont remember any more
(09:23:31) (Alrodnam) why you say arelationship problem?
(09:23:37) (Guest-Host_ron) anyone got any ideas?
(09:24:35) (Wanda) Is there a woman that you are worried about. One that might seem to recognize danger around her?
(09:24:57) (Guest-Host_ron) what is most feared about alligators?
(09:25:26) (Lynn) Grandma, you have such big teeth
(09:25:47) (Guest-Host_ron) in water?
(09:25:52) (Lynn) all the better to eat you with
(09:25:56) (Lynn) lol
(09:26:02) (Cris) The tail and the teeth of gators
(09:26:10) (Guest-Host_ron) water is usully a symbol for emotion
(09:26:28) (Cris) The tail can knock a strong man off balance
(09:26:45) (Alrodnam) my wife wanda, but i dont think this is about her
(09:26:52) (Cris) Making it easier for the gator to strike
(09:27:29) (Guest-Host_ron) might indicate a threat by the words of another? perhaps
(09:27:59) (Lynn) To knowledgeable gator folk, the thing to fear is quiet water
(09:28:01) (Guest-Host_ron) more fear of a threat than an actuality?
(09:28:44) (Guest-Host_ron) sometimes peoples words can be threatening?
(09:29:24) (Guest-Host_ron) but yet there is a green snake...
(09:29:52) (docyabut) its telling you your inter fear of your self and of another but everything is alright because it don`t bite
(09:30:18) (Guest-Host_ron) right, that is what i'm thinking...
(09:31:22) (Guest-Host_ron) is there another dream?
(09:31:34) (WalksInSpirit) I have one in a few minutes, Ron
(09:31:48) (Alrodnam) no thats all from me, thx evryone
(09:31:53) (Guest-Host_ron) ok...whenever you wish WIS
(09:32:58) (Guest-Host_ron) i have an article also...but merri has done just about everything there is on dreams...would you like some study on dreams?
(09:33:05) (WalksInSpirit) Ok, have it typed
(09:33:26) (Guest-Host_ron) ok WIS
(09:33:57) (WalksInSpirit) I dreamed that Laura and I were in the bed. All at once, she jumped up out of bed and ran to the window, and stood there looking out. She yelled "It's a tornado coming for us!" I jumped out of bed, and I ran up behind her and looked out the window.
(09:34:14) (WalksInSpirit) The sky was dark purple, it wasn't a tornado. I didn't know what was happening. I told her let's just go back to bed, so we did.
(09:34:29) (WalksInSpirit) Then, my cousin RuthAnn and her husband David (they are Pentecostal ministers) suddenly appeared in our bedroom! They told us it was the Rapture happening.
(09:34:46) (WalksInSpirit) Then, a Grandfather (an elderly Comanche man) appeared and said that it was earth changes and the shift. He said the white people called it the Rapture. End of dream.
(09:35:30) (Guest-Host_ron) premonition?
(09:35:46) (Lory) Wow, WIS. What an insight.
(09:35:50) (WalksInSpirit) It had that feeling to it, Ron.
(09:36:39) (Guest-Host_ron) premontion that certain changes in the earth are a lot closer than we think
(09:36:48) (WalksInSpirit) I thought so too, Grandmother! I never connected the two before!
(09:37:04) (Guest-Host_ron) and, perhaps, we should be alert and ready
(09:37:45) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, the shift is very close.
(09:38:18) (docyabut) its just a fear of all the you studyed will happen
(09:38:29) (Guest-Host_ron) tornado...what has been given is from up above
(09:38:46) (WalksInSpirit) I don't "study" end times & doomsday stuff, Doc.
(09:38:47) (Guest-Host_ron) this message, that is
(09:39:42) (Wanda) How did it make you feel WIS
(09:39:51) (docyabut) but the of rapture and earth changes
(09:40:15) (WalksInSpirit) I don't fear it either. Cause if I'm in an earthquake, or whatever, I look at it like this: if I survive, I'll be ok. And if I don't, I will be in the Presence of God. And I'll be ok then too!
(09:40:50) (Wanda) Good way to look at it.
(09:41:02) (Lory) Good thinking WIS. . .When one is confident in the love of God there is no fear.
(09:41:11) (WalksInSpirit) Well, a little freaked at first, but when the Grandfather said what he did, it was an "Ah- HA!" moment.
(09:41:20) (Moira) some quakes in Maine
(09:41:38) (MaryAnne) Recently, Moira?
(09:42:04) (Moira) two days ag o MA
(09:42:27) (MaryAnne) I had not heard that.
(09:42:33) (Moira) near the shore
(09:43:08) (Alrodnam) what connection with grandmother do u see Wis?
(09:43:18) (Guest-Host_ron) wisdom
(09:43:36) (WalksInSpirit) Well, a Grandfather is wise, all knowing.
(09:43:48) (WalksInSpirit) Ancient knowledge
(09:43:52) (docyabut) what s interesting is your culture or both predictions of your ansesters
(09:45:17) (WalksInSpirit) Grandfather is also a term we use for God.
(09:45:28) (WalksInSpirit) Tankasila.
(09:46:09) (Alrodnam) and how do u convert to grandmother?
(09:46:48) (WalksInSpirit) It was a Grandfather that came to us in my dream.
(09:46:52) (Guest-Host_ron) anyone else have a dream to share?
(09:47:32) (Wanda) I have part of one. Can't remember all of it
(09:47:33) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks for the input everybody!
(09:47:47) (WalksInSpirit) I appreciate it!
(09:47:49) (Guest-Host_ron) go ahead, if you wish Wanda
(09:48:39) (Wanda) Built a small, cute little house. White with green shutters. It talked to me
(09:48:58) (Mandy) thats cute
(09:48:59) (Alrodnam) amazing dream wis
(09:49:07) (Wanda) Asked what I wanted . Them it changed as I made suggestions.
(09:49:30) (Wanda) Grew a porch and made larger closets, more cabinets
(09:50:10) (Wanda) A river ran out the back door and large trees around. All I had to do was think of something and there it was
(09:50:34) (Alrodnam) heh cool
(09:50:38) (Wanda) Was way out in the country. Then it asked if I would miss having neighbors
(09:50:39) (Mandy) what a creator
(09:51:05) (Moira) nice dream Wis
(09:51:11) (docyabut) cayce said when you dream of being in a house it is self , you are creational
(09:51:23) (Lory) Your personality and psyche are learning and growing, Wanda, just as you wish it to be.
(09:51:23) (Guest-Host_ron) earned rewards...many more new things to explore within...what you have thought about in the past may become a reality......move to a new location(?)...
(09:51:33) (Wanda) The house told me to take a board and a nail and it would build another part of itself nearer a city if I wished. So I did. But it was still part of the same house.
(09:52:41) (Wanda) Said I could rebuild other parts whereever I wanted and it would still be part of the same
(09:53:02) (Guest-Host_ron) inner self guidance that will highly rewarding ...all you have to do is listen
(09:53:53) (Guest-Host_ron) and respond to these inner prompting, this inner guidance...i see good fortune...earned rewards
(09:53:54) (Cris) It means you can build anything you want in your life Wanda
(09:54:09) (Wanda) It was a fun dream. Felt very secure. Like the house would protect me. Was still building the last that I remember
(09:55:06) (MaryAnne) Nice dream Wanda...makes me think of "ask and it shall be given"
(09:55:09) (Guest-Host_ron) wow, that was good Cris
(09:55:58) (Wanda) thank you. I thought of that too MaryAnne.
(09:56:05) (docyabut) wanda your dream was telling you, you like to create
(09:56:35) (Wanda) yes I do Doc. Hope that is tru Cris
(09:57:10) (Cris) It is mind is the creator and you have a lot of talent
(09:58:22) (Guest-Host_ron) anyone else?
(09:58:54) (docyabut) my mom is a creator she like to decorate everything in beauty ,
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Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 22:52:38 GMT -5
(10:00:52) (Guest-Host_ron) Edgar Cayce once said, "Dreams, visions, impressions, to the entity in the normal sleeping state are the presentations of the experiences necessary for the development, if the entity would apply them in the physical life. These may be taken as warnings, as advice, as conditions to be met, conditions to be viewed in a way and manner as lessons, as truths, as they are presented in the various ways and manners."
(10:01:43) (Guest-Host_ron) The dream state is an experimental playground which gives you a chance to explore and express emotions without the usual inhibitions you may display in your waking life. Dreams provide an avenue of expression for that part of yourself that knows both your history and your potential as a spiritual being.
(10:02:16) (Guest-Host_ron) They are another way the universe provides guidance about relationships, careers, and health problems. Through dreams you may find answers to your spiritual questions and even receive encouragement to some challenge in your life.
(10:02:37) (Guest-Host_ron) While some dreams may allow you to release bottled emotions from your day's activities, others can lead to profound insights in a psychological or spiritual way.
(10:03:04) (Guest-Host_ron) However, Carl Jung said dreams are "the main source of all of our knowledge about symbolism." This means that the messages you receive from your dreams are expressed symbolically and must be interpreted to find their true meanings.
(10:03:32) (Guest-Host_ron) Mark Thurston, executive director for Edgar Cayce's research foundation and author of the book, Dreams: Tonight's Answers for Tomorrow's Questions, says, "A dream symbol is the very best way for your unconscious self to communicate to your conscious self. The particular image chosen - be it an object, a person, an animal, or whatever - has shades of meaning and personal associations that make it the best communicator of some truth about yoursel
(10:04:13) (Guest-Host_ron) Ancient Chinese tradition held that it is your spiritual soul which creates your dreams and leaves the body to travel to other realms and meet other souls. They and other ancient cultures, including the Greeks, erected dream temples for seekers to find guidance about their lives.
(10:04:39) (Guest-Host_ron) Many times purification rituals as well as other rites of preparation were performed by the seeker prior to entering the temple and the dream state. Upon awakening, the seeker consulted with the temple dream interpreters.
(10:05:05) (Guest-Host_ron) Cayce believed that our dreams serve several functions. Somatic dreams - dreams referring to the body - are extremely important to be mindful of. Very often dreams will offer solutions to health
(10:05:23) (Guest-Host_ron) problems. For example, one man was plagued with food allergies for many years, but was unable to find the source of his discomfort. Then one night he went to bed and he dreamed of a can of coffee. He quit drinking coffee and his symptoms disappeared.
(10:05:51) (Guest-Host_ron) Jung says that rarely do the symbols in dreams have just one meaning. And when interpreting the messages in your dreams, he suggests going with your first hunch, relying on your intuitive abilities, before applying more rational methods of dream interpretation.
(10:05:51) (Anonymous) Many times my dreams are so close to my daily life, that I do not see any symbolism. Often times, I have to think to my self: was that a dream or did I really live/experience that...
(10:06:32) (Guest-Host_ron) Cayce also believed that deceased friends and family members do occasionally visit us in our dream state. These occurrences may offer direct communication with those people or allow us to resolve our feelings about their death. The person may also represent some aspect of ourselves.
(10:06:56) (Guest-Host_ron) One man reports that occasionally he hears a voice in his dreams. This voice usually is loud and strong and is not associated with any characters in his dreams. "Typically, I'm told something very specific to do or not to do," he relates. "I know this is God speaking to me - loud and clear. And I know I'd better listen."
(10:07:08) (Mandy) glad you said that Anonymous
(10:07:41) (Guest-Host_ron) Morton Blumenthal, who received more dream interpretations from Cayce than anyone else - often reported dreams of a disembodied voice, which offered counsel. Cayce usually indicated this was input from the Creative Forces, God. For example, in one dream, Blumenthal dreamt of a figure leading him by the hand, and a voice which said, "The Lord will lead you - but you must ..." He had forgotten the rest of what was said to him, but Cayce interpreted it as follows:
(10:08:51) (Guest-Host_ron) "As in this, as is seen, again and again, the entity receives that reassurance of the higher forces guiding, guarding, and directing the entity in its actions, as it were, with the cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night."
(10:09:26) (Guest-Host_ron) Blumenthal also had a fascinating dream in which God came to visit him. To the dreamer's surprise, God was a modern businessman. Cayce's interpretation pointed out that God was someone with whom we can "do business." God is not only transcendent but also actively involved in human affairs. It was a powerful message and, in a sense, a wonderful revelation from the divine.
(10:09:56) (docyabut) including the Greeks, erected dream temples for seekers to find guidance about their lives. i suppose you havent heard of the gases that the greeks inhale to bring all these myths
(10:10:17) (Guest-Host_ron) Blumenthal also had a fascinating dream in which God came to visit him. To the dreamer's surprise, God was a modern businessman. Cayce's interpretation pointed out that God was someone with whom we can "do business." God is not only transcendent but also actively involved in human affairs. It was a powerful message and, in a sense, a wonderful revelation from the divine.
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Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 22:54:23 GMT -5
(10:12:17) (Guest-Host_ron) The following is an excerpt from the excellent book by Harmon Bro entitled Cayce on Dreams.
(10:12:35) (Guest-Host_ron) During the dreaming state of sleep, we experience the different levels of consciousness and receive input from the different realms of the spirit world. Through dreaming, we have special access to our spirit within. According to the Cayce readings, there is not a question we can ask which cannot be answered from the depths of our inner consciousness when the proper attunement is made.
(10:13:16) (Guest-Host_ron) A dream may be of a physical, mental, or spiritual nature and may deal with all manner of psychic manifestations. These include telepathy, clairvoyance, prophetic visions, out of body traveling, remembrance of past lives, communication with beings in other realms including deceased friends and relatives, spirit guides, angels, Christ, and even the voice of God. Dreams can also give invaluable information on the status of the body.
(10:14:05) (Guest-Host_ron) All subconscious minds are in contact with one another. Through the subconscious, dreams may place us in attunement with those in the physical realm or those in the spiritual realm. We may be visited in the night by discarnate entities for many reasons: they may seek to give us assurance about their well-being in other realms of existence;
(10:14:32) (Guest-Host_ron) they may come seeking our aid through prayer; they may come to bring us information which may be very helpful or limited; or they may come to influence us with their own desires or perspectives, which may be helpful or harmful. For example, there are dream reports of deceased relatives appearing and giving instructions about where to find a will or a lost object.
(10:15:10) (Guest-Host_ron) The events we experience in the third-dimension are, as it were, a "past condition" because this dimension is simply a projection or a reflection of what is being built at another higher level.
(10:15:41) (Guest-Host_ron) Therefore, when we tune into these higher levels, as we may in dreams, we become aware of what is being built, and what may be projected into the physical in the future. Nothing of importance happens to us that is not foreshadowed in our dreams. Which is not to say that all dreams are precognitive or that the exact detail of everything we experience is given earlier in dreams.
(10:16:14) (Guest-Host_ron) However, the word "foreshadowed" suggests that we may glimpse and be warned of what we are building now which may come into manifestation later. We call these dreams "precognitive" or "prophetic."
(10:16:36) (Guest-Host_ron) Just as the angels spoke to people in dreams in the times of the Bible, the spirit world still speaks to people to this day. Some people came to Cayce with dreams of Christ. None was told that it was simply his imagination, but all were assured they were indeed in touch with him.
(10:17:13) (Guest-Host_ron) There is no dimension of human life, whether social, financial, emotional or physical, mental or spiritual with which the dream may not on occasion deal. Dreams may encourage or reprimand, instruct or deceive, inspire or seduce, guide or confuse. The potential for an immense array of experiences in consciousness is always there.
(10:17:45) (Guest-Host_ron) What we actually receive depends upon our attitudes, motivations, the measure of our attunement, and the extent to which we have made applicable what was received in earlier dreams and in waking experiences.
(10:18:06) (Guest-Host_ron) Many people came to Cayce to have their dreams interpreted. An example was the dream of a young man about his father-in-law, who had recently taken his own life. In the dream a voice commented:
(10:18:29) (Guest-Host_ron) "He is the most uncomfortable fellow in the world." Then the dreamer was shown his own baby crying for food. The image was to convey the dead man's hunger for guidance and spiritual sustenance, said Cayce. The next night the dreamer heard the man's own voice, together with "a wandering impression of restlessness." The voice said:
(10:19:06) (Guest-Host_ron) "I seek rest. I want to leave and be with my family down there." Again Cayce said the dream contact had been authentic, showing the dreamer how much his prayers were needed for the father-in-law, who was still an "earthbound" discarnate.
(10:19:30) (Guest-Host_ron) He added that the reason the discarnate was turning towards people in earthly life was that "the lessons are learned from that realm, see?" It was a point Cayce often made, that souls who had once entered the earth had to learn their final lessons in the earth, where will is called into play in a fashion different from existence on other realms.
(10:20:00) (Guest-Host_ron) Yet contact between the dead and the living can be joyous. Sometimes it occurs because the dead want to show the living what death is like, to take away their fear and grief. Exploring the possible reality of such contact, one dreamer had her side pinched by a discarnate friend, so vividly that she screamed in fright, while another had his toe pulled when he asked for it - and did not ask again.
(10:20:29) (Guest-Host_ron) now, that is amazing
(10:20:41) (Guest-Host_ron) so impressive
(10:21:04) (Guest-Host_ron) One dream took a man inside the brain of a woman dying of cancer, a relative, and showed him precisely what a relief death was, when it finally came. A later dream also showed him how a soul feels when awakening to consciousness after death.
(10:21:35) (Guest-Host_ron) Discarnates are not only rewarded by recognition from the living, they can experience the joy of teaching the living. They can also, in relatively unusual cases, work directly with the living for the fulfillment of worthy causes.
(10:21:58) (Guest-Host_ron) . The dead differ from the living only in this respect: they are in a permanently subconscious state because the conscious mind of the physical body no longer exists. But the body is an expendable shell, and all else is intact. On the astral level of existence, the subconscious mind replaces the conscious mind of the soul, and the superconscious replaces the subconscious.
(10:22:32) (Guest-Host_ron) Hence, in dreams, we find that communication with those who have passed on is more logical than the average person is able to comprehend. The following are more excerpts from spirit communications in dreams as told to Edgar Cayce and interpreted: One man related to Cayce:
(10:22:55) (Guest-Host_ron) "Both my mother and father [deceased] came to me and were so glad to see me, but then they told me my sister had committed suicide." Cayce replied in trance:
(10:23:16) (Guest-Host_ron) "This dream presents to the entity, through the mother and father both dead, the thoughts being entertained by the sister because of dissatisfaction to meet properly the conditions in her life. And as seen, the father and mother depend upon you to so instruct, to so direct, and to so counsel your sister.
(10:23:41) (Guest-Host_ron) . Give the sister spiritual counsel so that she may better understand, thereby enabling her to grow; otherwise, detrimental experiences will destroy her. Suicide is in her mind. Remember, too, that thoughts are deeds in the mental realm, and they increase or mar the activities of the higher self." [136-70]
(10:24:15) (Guest-Host_ron) A woman related to Cayce this dream:
(10:24:25) (Guest-Host_ron) "I dreamed my mother told me I should warn Aunt Helen against an accident between an automobile and a streetcar. My mother then became ill."
(10:24:43) (Guest-Host_ron) Cayce replied in trance:
(10:25:09) (Guest-Host_ron) "This is a warning. Tell Aunt Helen about it. If she observes the warning, and stays out of automobiles and streetcars until the waning of the moon, it will not happen. Warn her, then, for this is a direct communication from one in the spiritual realm to one in the physical realm.
(10:25:22) (Guest-Host_ron) attunement is made when the conscious mind is subjugated, as in meditation or in sleep, and an attunement with the universal forces is established. This is also an illustration of the ability of those in the spiritual realm to see the future." [136-48]
(10:25:33) (Guest-Host_ron) Perhaps the most common dream experience in spirit communication according to Cayce is related by the message which in essence says: "I am fine and happy. Your grief, however, is holding me back and making me sad. You can help me greatly by trying to overcome your sorrow. You must stop grieving!"
(10:27:05) (Guest-Host_ron) "This is a warning. Tell Aunt Helen about it. If she observes the warning, and stays out of automobiles and streetcars until the waning of the moon, it will not happen. Warn her, then, for this is a direct communication from one in the spiritual realm to one in the physical realm.
(10:28:19) (docyabut) right ron all dreams are of self analysis .
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Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 22:56:09 GMT -5
(10:28:36) (Guest-Host_ron) DREAM ANALYSIS TIPS FROM EDGAR CAYCE
(10:28:51) (Guest-Host_ron) Keep a notebook beside the bed. Record your dreams as soon as possible after waking.
(10:29:00) (Guest-Host_ron) Suggest to yourself every night as you fall asleep, "I will remember my dreams."
(10:29:10) (Guest-Host_ron) If you wake during the night, write down the main symbols, and the entire dream will usually come back in the morning.
(10:29:22) (Guest-Host_ron) Practice keen observation in your dreams through self-suggestion prior to sleep.
(10:29:35) (Guest-Host_ron) Look for these components in your dreams: the setting, the people, the action, the color, the feeling, and the words.
(10:29:49) (Guest-Host_ron) Work on analyzing your dreams every day, otherwise their progression will be difficult to assess.
(10:30:05) (Guest-Host_ron) If dreams are illogical, three reasons are possible:
(10:30:16) (Guest-Host_ron) (1) Only the fragments of the dream have been recalled.
(10:30:25) (docyabut) its what i have done:)
(10:30:28) (Guest-Host_ron) (2) The dream is reflecting something illogical in the dreamer's life.
(10:30:40) (Guest-Host_ron) (3) Mental blocks have erased your recall.
(10:30:51) (Guest-Host_ron) If you are unable to decipher an important dream, suggest to yourself, before your next sleep, that the dream repeat itself more clearly.
(10:31:08) (Guest-Host_ron) Nightmares, which bring with them an inability to move or cry out, usually indicate the wrong diet. To end the nightmarish dreams change your diet.
(10:31:25) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams that are unchanged through the years indicate the dreamer's resistance to change.
(10:31:29) (Alrodnam) twinkie!
(10:31:43) (Guest-Host_ron) yes. get off the Twinkie's
(10:31:57) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams of ill health can be either literal or symbolic warnings.
(10:32:08) (Guest-Host_ron) When a problem confronts you, ask by prayer for guidance to be sent to you through your dreams.
(10:32:25) (Guest-Host_ron) Be practical in your interpretations. Always look first for a lesson. What have you refused to face or been ignoring?
(10:32:43) (Guest-Host_ron) Observe carefully recurrent dreams, as well as the serially progressive ones. These often illustrate progress or failure.
(10:32:59) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams are the reaction of the inner self to daytime activity and often show the way out of the dilemma. So relate them to current activity, because dreams may be retrospective as well as prospective.
(10:33:18) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams come to guide and help, not to amuse. They direct your attention to errors of omission and commission and offer encouragement for right endeavors. They also give us the opportunity to pray for others and to help them bear their burdens.
(10:33:36) (Guest-Host_ron) If you receive an unusual message, reduce it to common terms. See if the symbolism of the Bible can be of help in interpreting the dream.
(10:33:50) (Guest-Host_ron) Look for past-life experiences in your dreams. These manifest themselves not only in color, but in the proper costume and setting of their period. They come to warn you against repeating the same old mistakes; to explain your relationship and reactions to certain people and places; to reduce your confusions; to enable you to better understand life.
(10:34:00) (docyabut) i think what is most inportant is suggestion dreams and to know the different
(10:34:12) (Guest-Host_ron) Do not fear conversation with the so-called "dead" in dreams. If the communication is one-sided, it denotes telepathy. If both participate, it may be an actual encounter of bodiless consciousness.
(10:34:31) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams are primarily about self. Only a few dreams relate to family, friends, and world events.
(10:34:45) (Guest-Host_ron) Watch for mental telepathy in dreams.
(10:34:54) (docyabut) right on ron
(10:34:56) (Guest-Host_ron) Remember, persistence is necessary to learn any new language, and dream symbols are the forgotten language of the subconscious.
(10:35:21) (Guest-Host_ron) Give daily thanks to God for all things and use daily prayer to improve the quality and reception of your dreams.
(10:35:30) (Guest-Host_ron) HOW TO INTERPRET YOUR DREAMS
(10:35:46) (Guest-Host_ron) It would seem that sensory experiences are permanently recorded by our subconscious mind, even though we remain consciously unaware of them. Under hypnosis, eyewitnesses to a crime are able to recall detailed facts that they had previously been unable to remember. Asleep or awake, the subconscious, like the tape recorder, registers continuously.
(10:36:06) (Guest-Host_ron) This is because the senses are awareness’s of the inner self which never sleeps. This may also explain why associations with some symbols appearing in dreams are difficult to interpret – they are not consciously observed.
(10:36:28) (Guest-Host_ron) Dreams symbols, such as a house, a bird, or a friend, always represent much more than that which first meets the eye. This is why the beginner can benefit from help received from those who have made a serious study of dreams. Carl Jung voiced much the same thought when he said that, if one understands symbols, one can understand the dream as much by empathy as by formal analysis.
(10:36:52) (Guest-Host_ron) The ideal, however, is for the individual himself to learn to understand his dreams by writing them down. Dreams are more easily understood in series. Dream researchers have discovered that three or even four of the dreams each night often relate to the same basic problem or subject, but in different symbols.
(10:37:19) (Guest-Host_ron) It is also helpful not only to pray for guidance, but also to learn to meditate. Meditation, which is the art of listening with the ego subdued, improves the clarity of dreams, expands the consciousness, and encourages extrasensory perceptions by breaking down the barriers between the conscious mind and the subconscious and superconscious.
(10:37:43) (Guest-Host_ron) Perhaps the most fundamental aspect of symbology is that it is a universal language, teaching and preserving permanent basic truths. What shorthand is to words, symbology is to ideas. This is especially true of religious concepts.
(10:38:03) (Guest-Host_ron) According to Edgar Cayce, the Book of Revelation is a compilation of the Apostle John’s dreams and visions while he was in exile. It illustrates his growth in consciousness as he sought, through meditation and prayer, to fully comprehend the manifestation of the Holy Spirit in his life.
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Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 22:59:07 GMT -5
(10:38:44) (Bill) TY Ron L&L everyone
(10:39:42) (Guest-Host_ron) thank you for staying with me during this chat...i really appreciate your company and sharing of dreams
(10:39:53) (docyabut) its all really quite simple
(10:40:51) (Wanda) Got a question Ron. Back a ways you wrote "watch for mental telepathy in dreams" . Why were we to watch for it.
(10:40:52) (Alrodnam) thx for all that hard work typing Ron!
(10:41:21) (MaryAnne) I find that when I don't understand a dream at first the interpretation will come to me if I just contemplate the dream and watch what goes on around me.
(10:41:37) (WalksInSpirit) Great info tonight, Ron! Thank you!
(10:41:47) (Guest-Host_ron) i've been into dreams for quite a long time and i still don't pickup on many of them...but, i feel i am able to see into some dreams,...some easier than others
(10:41:48) (Mandy) thank you so much ron
(10:41:53) (LoveInfinity) good stuff, dude
(10:42:06) (Wanda) thank you Ron
(10:42:11) (LoveInfinity) I have a dream
(10:42:20) (Guest-Host_ron) ok LI
(10:42:22) (docyabut) dreams are of the inter self
(10:42:47) (LoveInfinity) I was driving down the road, going downhill and it turned into a water slide, END
(10:43:08) (Guest-Host_ron) i started with dreams around 1970 when i became involved with the ARE and the Cayce readings
(10:44:16) (Guest-Host_ron) along with meditation, yoga, astrology and other related subjects...and i'm still learning more each day
(10:44:18) (Wanda) You travel a lot in your dreams Love. That is interesting.
(10:44:32) (LoveInfinity) if ya only knew, lol
(10:45:01) (LoveInfinity) usually when I have a car dream I panic because my car breaks down
(10:45:10) (LoveInfinity) but somehow this felt different
(10:45:19) (LoveInfinity) it was fun
(10:45:26) (Wanda) Going downhill could be thought of as a bad event but you turned it into a fun ride. That is a good ability
(10:45:31) (Guest-Host_ron) setbacks along you life's path LI?
(10:45:42) (docyabut) your fear of where your going
(10:45:53) (LoveInfinity) we are going thru some right now but we are prevailing big time
(10:46:13) (Wanda) But he made setbacks and fear into a good thing
(10:46:37) (LoveInfinity) organizing my time has been a challenge all aspects of my life right now are extremly busy
(10:46:45) (Guest-Host_ron) right, LI...only delays along the way...temporary events
(10:47:09) (Guest-Host_ron) nothing to worry about...of which you already know this
(10:47:27) (LoveInfinity) as they say in my hood, Its all Good
(10:47:42) (Guest-Host_ron) things that divert you awy from certain objectives
(10:47:50) (Wanda) Just enjoy the ride
(10:48:02) (LoveInfinity) many things diverting me from what I am trying to do, yes
(10:50:43) (Guest-Host_ron) going down hill may suggest that things should be moving faster like all things that go downhill...i suppose much more quuickly than before
(10:51:11) (Wanda) Short but it says a lot about attitude and making the most of your situation
(10:51:46) (Guest-Host_ron) right wanda, taking advantage of an up coming opportunity
(10:52:09) (Wanda) Like the taking lemons and making lemonade saying.
(10:52:32) (LoveInfinity) I have been working harding at listening to my guides when things go wrong, trying to work the situatios to an advantage, and it has been working better for me, better decisions
(10:53:17) (Wanda) exactly. your dream says you are getting good at it
(10:53:22) (Guest-Host_ron) it sounds like that LI...you do refer to your dreams for guidance as well
(10:53:36) (LoveInfinity) as much as possible
(10:54:07) (LoveInfinity) I use them for my work as well, I get info to my boss she loves me, LOL
(10:54:19) (docyabut) even the cayce records tell us when the soul of man was frist separated its creator and realized its state fear enter in from fear came anger , hate, jealous and pride.that cause the inbalance of our true nature
(10:54:29) (Guest-Host_ron) does your boss show interest in dreams?
(10:54:42) (Guest-Host_ron) its good to have a boss friend lol
(10:55:01) (docyabut) from its creator
(10:55:04) (Wanda) I can just imagine you yelling yee ha ! going down a water slide!
(10:55:39) (LoveInfinity) Yeah she has the gift as well, and we share info, its awesome to work with someone who is open
(10:56:44) (Guest-Host_ron) db, do you have a dream to share?
(11:04:18) (DB) i remember the one with my brother if ya want to hear it ?
(11:04:29) (Guest-Host_ron) if you wish db
(11:04:34) (DB) if not thats ok too
(11:04:40) (DB) i wont be offended
(11:04:52) (Guest-Host_ron) its ok...what you wish to do
(11:05:10) (Wanda) go ahead DB
(11:05:16) (DB) well ok
(11:05:25) (DB) here goes
(11:06:09) (DB) in my dream my brother was in the front yard cutting the lawn
(11:06:45) (DB) and i walked up to him cos the lawn was lookin pretty beat up
(11:06:59) (DB) feom the way he was cutting it
(11:07:20) (DB) and he was Extreemely drunk
(11:07:36) (DB) his face was red and bloated
(11:07:55) (DB) this is my brother that passed in 2002
(11:08:33) (Guest-Host_ron) is that it?
(11:08:38) (DB) no
(11:08:44) (Guest-Host_ron) ok
(11:08:59) (DB) and he looked at me and said he had dry mouth
(11:09:18) (DB) so we went to the garage to get a soda
(11:09:38) (DB) i got one for me and handed him one
(11:09:47) (DB) and he looked at me and said
(11:10:04) (DB) he was a drunk,meaning he wanted a beer insted
(11:10:43) (DB) then i layed into him
(11:10:58) (DB) cos in every dream i have of him he is drunk
(11:11:14) (DB) and im getting tired of it
(11:11:45) (Wanda) did he have a drinking problem in life?
(11:11:55) (DB) yes he did wanda
(11:12:18) (DB) but thats not what killed him
(11:12:27) (Guest-Host_ron) i think he is showing how much he is in need of your help...your prayers are very important for his growth
(11:12:36) (Wanda) Do you think he is having problems crossing over because of his attachment to alcohol?
(11:12:50) (DB) i think it may be
(11:13:17) (DB) i told him that he was alive in my dream for a reason
(11:13:29) (Guest-Host_ron) growth, to be free of addictions he's had on earth
(11:14:06) (Guest-Host_ron) he is still showing you his addictions and is in need of your help...growth thru prayer
(11:14:13) (Wanda) I agree with Ron. Your prayers are very important for him
(11:14:29) (WalksInSpirit) DB, you should ask Roz to put him on the Prayer List here in chat.
(11:14:35) (DB) i told him that i can help him
(11:14:49) (WalksInSpirit) Cayce recommended prayer for passed loved ones.
(11:15:33) (DB) well last time i prayed for him asking God to help him stop drinking
(11:15:51) (DB) he came to me in another dream and kicked my butt
(11:16:18) (DB) for asking God to help him stop drinking
(11:16:35) (DB) but he knows its hurting his spirit
(11:16:37) (Alrodnam) hmm so he doesnt want to stop
(11:16:48) (DB) and he know i know that too
(11:16:56) (Guest-Host_ron) right, maight be telling you to give him the help he needs and that you are capable of doing it thru constant prayers and not to forget about him...even tho you are unable to see him
(11:16:59) (WalksInSpirit) Maybe we should ask God to touch him with peace and love? Can't see how that would hurt.
(11:17:15) (Guest-Host_ron) that is why your butt was kicked
(11:17:50) (Wanda) yet he keeps coming back to you.
(11:18:12) (DB) yes he does and im the only one in the family he visits
(11:18:29) (WalksInSpirit) You're the most open
(11:18:30) (DB) cos i ask mom and dad and they say no
(11:18:40) (DB) he dont visit
(11:19:00) (Wanda) Might be because you have never given up on him
(11:19:26) (DB) he never gave up on me either when he was alive
(11:19:39) (JohnB) the prayer might him sober up and continue his journey beyond the grave and come back to his father«s house DB
(11:19:39) (WalksInSpirit) Every time we "dream" of a loved one who has passed, that is a visit.
(11:19:44) (Wanda) Even though he pushed (or kicked) you away
(11:19:47) (DB) when i had my BIG drug problem
(11:20:37) (DB) he was there for me
(11:20:44) (DB) all the time
(11:20:46) (Guest-Host_ron) he still is
(11:20:58) (DB) im sober now
(11:21:05) (Guest-Host_ron) give him the helping hand he wants from you...you are the only one
(11:21:08) (DB) almost 2yrs clean
(11:21:14) (Wanda) sounds like the two of you have been through a lot together
(11:21:22) (DB) we have
(11:21:25) (Guest-Host_ron) good for you db...good for you :)
(11:21:29) (DB) we where very close
(11:21:37) (DB) thanks ron
(11:21:47) (Guest-Host_ron) keep it up
(11:21:49) (DB) that was my brothers name too
(11:21:51) (DB) ron
(11:22:20) (Wanda) I think he is very proud of you
(11:22:32) (Guest-Host_ron) well, mesages do get around don't they...:)...they know where to go knowingly who will do the pushing :)
(11:22:43) (DB) when he used to go to workin the morning my mom would say bye ron
(11:22:54) (DB) and he would say
(11:23:05) (DB) stop calling me byron
(11:23:10) (DB) lol
(11:23:16) (WalksInSpirit) LOL DB
(11:23:19) (Guest-Host_ron) lol
(11:23:34) (DB) :-D
(11:24:10) (DB) ive had many dreams of healing other people
(11:24:24) (DB) and i told my brother i can heal him too
(11:24:56) (DB) cos i have confidence in my dreams that i can heal
(11:25:17) (DB) i love dreaming
(11:25:18) (Guest-Host_ron) and your brother knows this
(11:25:20) (WalksInSpirit) I know you can too, DB
(11:26:05) (DB) im one dream this guy tried to kill me
(11:26:14) (DB) so i hurt him real bad
(11:26:21) (DB) and then healed him
(11:26:39) (DB) and then he was my friend
(11:26:59) (DB) i actually felt him stab me in the ribs
(11:27:07) (DB) wierd feeling
(11:27:14) (DB) but dint hurt
(11:27:23) (WalksInSpirit) That's your gift, DB!
(11:28:33) (Guest-Host_ron) use your gift db
(11:28:58) (DB) i dont know how to apply it in real life
(11:29:14) (DB) in my dream when i get ready to heal someone
(11:29:29) (Wanda) maybe that is another purpose of your brother's visits.
(11:29:35) (Guest-Host_ron) i'd start with your brother...i bet, anything you do will give healing
(11:29:39) (DB) i hold them and i look up to the sky and start speaking indian
(11:30:10) (DB) and saying prayers in indian
(11:30:25) (JohnB) you cant heal any one until they have accepted that they are healed that is an illusion of healing
(11:30:31) (DB) and then the person is healed
(11:30:35) (Guest-Host_ron) in a dream or not in a dream...but consciously awake in English will be good enough in my opinion
(11:31:04) (JohnB) that you can help/ heal some one they have to do the work/healing =)
(11:31:07) (DB) sometime i wake up speaking indian to other indians
(11:31:08) (Guest-Host_ron) i disagree jb...because i can pray for anyone
(11:31:16) (DB) in my dream
(11:32:00) (Guest-Host_ron) i really enjoyed this evening thanks all of you...and you too quiet mandy
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