Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 9, 2005 22:30:58 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 09-09-05
(08:14:49) (host-merri) How are you all doing with your dreams? No nightmares hopefully after all that has taken place!
(08:15:20) (Andrew) ok!
(08:15:46) (Tug) nope
(08:15:51) (Mark) No nightmares here
(08:16:38) (host-merri) anyone have any dreams concerning the events in New Orleans?
(08:17:10) (diane) no nightmares, merri
(08:17:24) (host-merri) good
(08:17:52) (Tug) think what I see on tv, is enough nightmare
(08:17:52) (diane) but was walking around singing When You Walk Through the Storm today. Remember that one?
(08:18:11) (host-merri) oh that is an old one, diane!
(08:18:18) (vjh) I dreamed about a girl I used to know who was still being stalked by her ex-husband. I think the girl symbolized me. I hate to say it.
(08:18:19) (host-merri) Kate Smith?
(08:18:22) (diane) Very, very old
(08:18:40) (diane) Kate S. or Jane Froman?
(08:18:43) (vjh) I don't think he's ever going to leave me alone as long as I live.
(08:19:49) (host-merri) maybe some unresolved issues there, vjh
(08:19:59) (vjh) No, just vindictive.
(08:22:29) (host-merri) we have had some discussions on the conscious, subconscious and superconscious so thought I'd post an article from Venture Inward from sometime ago
(08:23:00) (Q) I like this sort of stuff.
(08:23:06) (diane) sounds good
(08:23:09) (host-merri) Cayce identifies three levels of consciousness or dimensions of mind: conscious, subconscious, and superconscious.
(08:23:09) (Annie) me too
(08:23:44) (host-merri) Conscious mind is the level that we are most familiar with. It is the level within which our personality and three-dimensional self develops and has much of its activity.
(08:24:19) (host-merri) The subconscious is that part of our minds that bridges the outer self with the spiritual self. According to Cayce, the subconscious is both in the body, through the autonomic system, and beyond the body, in the soul realms of telepathy, non-physical life, and timelessness. This mind is the mind of the soul, says Cayce. As the mind of our outer self is the conscious mind and that portion containing our personality, so the subconscious mind contain
(08:25:27) (host-merri) The superconscious level is the portion made in the image of the Creator, as recorded in Genesis. It is that portion of us that is a god or godling, as the ancient Egyptians termed it. Cayce explained that the superconscious is a thing apart from anything earthly, and only makes its presence known or is knowable when the soul-self lifts itself and portions of the conscious mind up into the vast, expansive level that is the superconscious. This is
(08:26:25) (Mark) it cut off Merri,...., so the subconscious mind contain
(08:26:33) (Q) what does the subconscious mind contain.. it cut off there.
(08:28:34) (host-merri) subconscious mind contains our developing indivduality, which Cayce identifies as our true self.
(08:29:08) (waterfall) indeed, the self that becomes the ego in our next life
(08:29:21) (host-merri) any cutoff on the post after that?
(08:29:44) (Mark) superconscious. This is
(08:31:31) (host-merri) This is the portion of our being that Cayce referred to when he said that not only God is God but self is part of that oneness
(08:32:04) (host-merri) At death, the conscious mind is gradually absorbed into the subconscious (the mind of the surviving soul), and the subconscious becomes the operative mind, with the super-conscious now in the position the subconscious held while we were incarnate. Later, upon reincarnation, the subconscious projects another portion of itself into the newly developing outer, three-dimensional mind. Intuitions,
(08:32:53) (host-merri) “knowings,” and psychic perceptions come from the projected subconscious. Cayce explains that not all of the subconscious is projected; some of it remains in very high levels of perception and activity. But the portion that is in the body maintains the autonomic systems of the body (respiration, circulation, digestion, etc.) and the seven spiritual centers or chakras, which correspond with the seven endocrine glands.
(08:33:40) (host-merri) We may feel that we do not know our subconscious soul-self, but we do, and we are comfortable with it. For example, when we are waking with a dream, but notice that our bladder is full and go empty it, only to return to the bed with no recall of the dream, then we have just experienced our two selves. One is the dreaming mind, the subconscious soul-mind, and the other is in charge of the bladder and the central nervous system that moves the body t
(08:34:30) (Q) so.. the subconscious creates the conscious mind?
(08:34:38) (host-merri) dream state. Notice how we felt that WE were dreaming. That is because this is the true self, and we know it well. Yet, there is a veil that drops when we move outward, a veil that is opaque. The outer self cannot see back through that veil, cannot recall the contents of the dream, because it never had the dream and was only awakened when the physical body needed to move. Now you can see how we can die to this body and this world, and still live,
(08:35:12) (waterfall) the silver cord
(08:35:16) (Q) so.. our subconscious mind is our pattern maker?
(08:36:03) (host-merri) Mind is our true nature. It is that portion of us that lives forever. What would it be like to live our lives as minds in bodies, rather than bodies with minds? Surprisingly, Cayce considered the mind to be a savior, a redeemer. It is that portion of our being that can mend and restore us. Let’s engage our minds and fully awaken to our spiritual selves.
(08:36:38) (Q) so.. is our Mind an aspect of our Spirit?
(08:36:53) (Q) Spirit=Life.
(08:36:54) (waterfall) mind is ever the builder
(08:37:02) (Mark) do we still have a body when we past just finer ?
(08:37:22) (host-merri) The subconscious is that part of our minds that bridges the outer self with the spiritual self.
(08:37:37) (waterfall) becomes the ego
(08:37:49) (Q) so.. its just a middle ground.. a go between.
(08:37:53) (Bill) the mind then contains our concsiousnessess
(08:39:12) (host-merri) the subconscious mind contains our developing “individuality,” which Cayce identifies as our true self.
(08:39:40) (Q) the light/life/spirit.. is the mind.. and the subconscious is the pattern.. and it creates a physical reactions to reality.. our conscious.
(08:39:56) (waterfall) astrologically, the rising sign is the individuality, the sun sign, the personality
(08:40:21) (ron) facade
(08:40:41) (host-merri) when necessary, mark
(08:40:58) (Mark) ty Merri
(08:41:04) (waterfall) the pattern is understood in Noah's Ark, Aaron's robe, Solomon's Temple and the Angel in Revelation
(08:41:21) (Q) if the subconscious is in developement.. then how can it be our true self.. it is in motion.
(08:41:40) (ron) all things are in motion
(08:41:45) (ron) mtion = life
(08:41:50) (waterfall) yes, Ron
(08:41:54) (host-merri) part of the subconscious is held back Q
(08:42:05) (host-merri) for higher development
(08:43:35) (waterfall) the pattern is also known in Jacob's ladder, Tower of Babel, the lattices and the robes of Jesus
(08:44:13) (Q) the sub.. controls the autonomic.. and it also lets dreams enter it as well.. but as for creating a physical responce.. hmm.. I thought our sub.. just have paradigms about what reality was about.. and our conscious uses our five sences to detect what reality was like?
(08:44:42) (ron) bodily functions
(08:44:46) (waterfall) Arcturus, Q
(08:46:05) (waterfall) the blueprint for our human nature is encoded in our DNA and RNA
(08:46:16) (host-merri) subconscious is the "bridge" between the conscious mind, Q
(08:46:44) (Q) k.. merri.. I will remember it as the pattern maker.
(08:46:53) (Bill) could it be Q the conscious makes the choices and the sub. keeps tabs
(08:47:22) (waterfall) Bill, that's what hypnotists discovered
(08:47:25) (Q) I learned that the sub only guess what consciousness is making about reality. Bill.
(08:47:36) (waterfall) Cayce all the way!
(08:47:37) (ron) records it
(08:47:49) (waterfall) collective unconscious
(08:48:13) (host-merri) ok anyone with a dream to share tonight
(08:48:15) (Q) doesn't the sub also keeps records of all of our experiences merri?
(08:48:30) (host-merri) yes, Q
(08:48:33) (waterfall) Akashic records
(08:48:52) (host-merri) our tape recorder so to speak
(08:49:05) (Q) then.. if it also does so.. how does it create events or Ideal.. wouldn't the spirit be in charge of that aspect?
(08:49:18) (waterfall) Dreamed of my ex's two personalities today
(08:49:40) (waterfall) You asked, Merri!!!
(08:49:45) (host-merri) each feeds the other Q, they are all part of the whole
(08:50:09) (host-merri) well tell us the dream, waterfall
(08:50:27) (Q) so.. as a sub.. or real self.. the light of self is but a shadow of what we become after being deceased.
(08:50:28) (Andrew) Hey, dont forget the Recording Angel
(08:50:47) (waterfall) My ex, who can't stand me, morphed into her other self, who loved me!
(08:51:00) (Annie) I dreamt I was driving a car and on a road to my parents and as I crossed the bridge he flew out the window. I noticed five native americans standing watching this take place and I saw a little girl who was my daughter only I don't have one . When I got to my parents house and franatically told my father what had happened he said well Annie he's in the living room.????
(08:51:18) (Q) wouldn't it be the other way around merri.. the spirit created the sub and the sub the consciounce?
(08:52:34) (ron) subconscious veil of the superconscious
(08:52:40) (merlin) the number 5 is change
(08:52:42) (waterfall) annie, what does the number five mean to you?
(08:52:53) (Q) or veil of conscious as well ron?
(08:53:31) (host-merri) it was all created as one Q, the super, sub & conscious are aspects of the mind
(08:53:36) (Q) sounds like there are two veils huh ron?
(08:53:54) (waterfall) Annie, I want to understand your dream, but I need time
(08:54:02) (Q) o.k. merri.. so I gotta ask ya.. which one is the mind?
(08:54:07) (Annie) ok
(08:55:04) (waterfall) I'm getting past life experiences with you and your father, Annie, with you as the daughter in your dream
(08:56:08) (Annie) ok, the man in the car that flew out was my fiance
(08:56:20) (waterfall) says who?
(08:56:24) (ron) sounds like a fast getaway
(08:56:40) (Annie) in reality
(08:56:48) (waterfall) ok, Blu
(08:56:53) (BlackWolf) Uh oh, your life styles may not be compatible. :o(
(08:57:15) (ron) plus driving carelessly
(08:57:17) (Q) so.. does Cayce say what aspect the Mind fall under merri?
(08:57:22) (waterfall) dad and daughter together again, Cayce told of this
(08:57:35) (BlackWolf) Really, next dream you might get a speeding ticket. :o)
(08:57:40) (host-merri) what do Native Americans symbolize to you Annie
(08:58:28) (waterfall) you'd have to prove it to me
(08:58:48) (vjh) The other time the cat had kittens we found homes for them all. We were lucky that time.
(08:58:49) (host-merri) the mind is Q, the super, sub & conscious are aspects of the one mind
(08:59:03) (Q) hmm.. thankyou merri.
(08:59:20) (waterfall) Merri was with me in a prior life
(08:59:32) (Andrew) Annie, maybe fiance is on journey with you....he leaves to get home before you...the 5 indians represent a "helping hand"...Father reassures you that no one is lost....:)
(08:59:44) (ron) i know that merri is impressed by that :)
(08:59:49) (waterfall) good job Andrew
(09:00:20) (waterfall) prove it
(09:00:23) (Annie) ty andrew
(09:00:38) (Andrew) disprove it, water grinning
(09:00:39) (waterfall) I'm not trying to impress Merri
(09:01:03) (waterfall) I will, Andrew, if given the chance
(09:01:06) (host-merri) well that is an interesting thought, waterfall
(09:01:13) (Q) maybe it means he doesn't want to hang with you while you do things traditionally but he is willing to accept your family. Annie.. just a guess.
(09:01:20) (waterfall) Blu, e-mail me your chart
(09:01:48) (redHead) waterfall are you an astrologer?
(09:01:57) (waterfall) Merri, it's a soul feeling, intangible
(09:02:08) (host-merri) understand
(09:02:13) (waterfall) yes, Red, I am... of the deepest kind
(09:02:38) (ron) an Indian Spirit
(09:02:39) (waterfall) right on!!!
(09:02:45) (WalksInSpirit) Um, Blu is at work tonight, just as she is every Friday night, btw...
(09:02:48) (diane) is Blu here?
(09:03:07) (diane) lol
(09:03:45) (waterfall) I'm never speaking to Walk In again
(09:04:02) (host-merri) lol
(09:04:06) (ron) waterfall is so full of tears
(09:04:18) (ron) so much falling water
(09:04:24) (host-merri) you must be picking up on WIS's vibs, waterfall
(09:04:39) (waterfall) Merri, I hope you're authentic!!!
(09:04:54) (Q) she's as real as you waterfall.
(09:04:58) (host-merri) hope so too!!
(09:04:58) (ron) just a mirage
(09:05:22) (waterfall) I guess that is to be expected on a non-Cayce site
(09:05:48) (waterfall) Thanks Q, I mean Blu
(09:05:52) (ron) yes, expect the unexpected
(09:05:56) (WalksInSpirit) ROTFLOL
(09:06:03) (socalvon) non Cayce...where you been, WF
(09:06:04) (waterfall) Uranus!!!
(09:06:14) (diane) easy WIS! lol
(09:06:30) (waterfall) WI said this site has nothing to do with EC, ironically
(09:06:34) (host-merri) this is as Cayce as you are likely to find, waterfall
(09:06:34) (WalksInSpirit) Sorry Diane! *wiping tears from eyes, laughing so hard*
(09:06:47) (ron) sometimes i even wonder
(09:06:50) (Q) Blu aint in waterfall.. WIS just told ya .
(09:06:54) (diane) :-)
(09:08:17) (host-merri) do you have one for us tonight, Ral
(09:08:18) (Raleigh) i had a glimps of another merri / i held a knife in defense i feel
(09:08:23) (Raleigh) yes
(09:08:33) (Raleigh) i held a blue knife last pm
(09:10:29) (host-merri) was this defending with a knife, a dream you had Ral
(09:13:36) (waterfall) is there a serious Edgar Cayce site out there in cyberspace?
(09:14:03) (redHead) maybe you should start one waterfall :)
(09:14:10) (Raleigh) this is w/f
(09:14:25) (BlackWolf) You forget waterfall, Edgar Cayce gave only 14,100 readings. Not enough to create a pattern for all life from. :o)
(09:14:33) (waterfall) Q, did you finally discover that Moses' wife was black?
(09:14:37) (host-merri) Cayce was all for humor, waterfall even when serious!
(09:14:56) (waterfall) good point red, how do I go about it?
(09:15:16) (Q) an Ethiopian was caucasian . . Semetic.. from the tribe of Shem and Black.. you just picked one.
(09:15:25) (waterfall) Wrong, wrong Black
(09:15:52) (BlackWolf) You may construct what you wish. :o)
(09:15:59) (Q) The land of Midian is not in Africa. Zippora of of Midians bloodline. Of Abrahams wife Keturah.
(09:16:03) (waterfall) Nice spin on ethnicity, you should get into false pr Q
(09:16:41) (Q) Get a bible dictionary waterfall.. you can tell the scholars they are incorrect.
(09:16:56) (waterfall) study deeper Q, yo just may get it one day
(09:18:03) (Q) The land that was taken by Cush.. for the Cannanites was not in Africa..
(09:18:08) (BlackWolf) Alas, these doctrinarians, oh, how I love my buddhist monastery, where all I have to do is practice martial arts so as to comnbat the monastery over the hill. :o)
(09:18:16) (anne) q likes the old testament, we most live for the new
(09:18:17) (waterfall) I don't mind being your teacher, as long as you are willing to learn fron a Master...
(09:18:22) (Raleigh) a bible concordace may be better
(09:18:26) (Q) It is in modern day Palistine.. just look for yourself.
(09:18:39) (diane) Ques. for waterfall...your ex was a she? As helenea you were a she.
(09:18:56) (Q) out of the mouths of babes waterfall.. and you don't count.
(09:19:14) (waterfall) Yes, her name was Helenea
(09:19:16) (socalvon) right on Q
(09:19:16) (Andrew) water you were helen of troy ?!?!?!?!?!?
(09:19:29) (anne) hey we are all masters or so we think
(09:19:37) (waterfall) no, Helenea was
(09:19:43) (Andrew) oh ok
(09:19:51) (waterfall) as we think, so we are
(09:20:08) (Q) he who would be the greatest.. hmm.. aint you again.
(09:20:19) (waterfall) I was Moses
(09:20:41) (Raleigh) jesus saves / moses invests
(09:20:48) (host-merri) did you dream that you were Moses, waterfall?
