Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 16, 2005 22:26:39 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 09-16-05
(08:07:39) (Host-merri) Welcome to Dream Chat
(08:09:45) (Host-merri) Everybody ready with their dreams tonight?
(08:12:32) (panther) I've been having this dream for many years now,and I dont know what to think of it.Its about one of my best friends who shot him self in the neck and is now paralized from the neck down.at least 4 times a week i dream of him,he's walking but he has this big scar on his neck from where the bullet entered.and the dream always takes place in the house he used to live in. I wish i knew why i am always dreaming of him and his old house.I havent talked to him
(08:13:48) (Host-merri) maybe you need to communicate with him panther
(08:14:06) (panther) he wont talk to me
(08:14:14) (socalVon) Panther, maybe you should sit and talk to him...may resolve things
(08:14:25) (Blu) ARe you praying for him Panther?
(08:14:27) (panther) he wont see me
(08:14:37) (Host-merri) keep trying
(08:14:47) (ron) just talk to him for the time being
(08:16:03) (docyabut) panter are you worried about him and his life style that could be relate to your dreams?
(08:16:44) (Host-merri) is he able to write, talk, etc, panther?
(08:17:27) (panther) he cant write hes paralized from the neck down and he uses a voice box
(08:18:10) (Host-merri) ok but you could still write to him
(08:18:57) (Blu) You know Panther I am thinking you could share your experience with him. Maybe he needs a spiritual lift?
(08:19:03) (panther) ive tried but he wont respond
(08:19:20) (docyabut) oh he already afficted?
(08:19:22) (Host-merri) I think your subconscious is telling you to communicate with him
(08:19:29) (Blu) All you can do is plant the seed, God gives the growth
(08:19:29) (ernie) god bless him pray list
(08:19:39) (Host-merri) even if he doesn't respond
(08:19:40) (panther) afficted?
(08:20:02) (socalVon) yeh Panther, at least communicate your concern for him!
(08:20:06) (ron) let him know that you still care...and when he is ready to share his thoughts and feelings with you he'll let you know
(08:20:45) (Blu) Good thought Ron
(08:20:51) (panther) i have a friend thats talks to him all the time,he can give him a message for me
(08:21:04) (Blu) Cool Panther
(08:21:15) (Blu) Do you know why he won't talk to you?
(08:21:17) (ron) communicate with him at least weekly
(08:21:33) (Host-merri) writing would be better panther
(08:21:56) (Host-merri) going thru another may not be a good idea
(08:22:28) (ron) right merri...he should show a direct concern
(08:22:30) (Host-merri) thoughts are not always expressed as you would like by a 2nd party
(08:22:34) (panther) he wont talk i guess because of our past
(08:22:37) (socalVon) true Merri..wont have the same power
(08:22:59) (panther) we had a big drug past
(08:23:07) (Blu) Ah, then tell him the past is over, time for new beginings, and that you love him.
(08:23:20) (panther) and he was on meth when he shot himself
(08:23:27) (ron) ask for forgiveness if you have to
(08:23:36) (Blu) Maybe he is partly blaming you?
(08:23:40) (socalVon) does he blame you P
(08:23:57) (panther) i think he might
(08:24:16) (Blu) Then acknowledge that and ask for forgiveness in any part you had in it
(08:24:38) (panther) what gets me is,he prevented me from shooting my self,and then he goes and does it
(08:24:49) (docyabut) i see panther your dreaming of his old self before he shot himself
(08:25:16) (Host-merri) drugs do strange things to people, panther
(08:25:44) (panther) yes i am aware
(08:26:10) (socalVon) so does alcohol!!
(08:26:19) (Blu) Panther do what you can, let God do the rest.
(08:27:04) (panther) should i give my friend my testimony to give to him?
(08:27:20) (Blu) Mail it yourself
(08:27:28) (Host-merri) agree, Blu
(08:27:47) (socalVon) direct contact is best
(08:27:48) (panther) mail it to my self?
(08:27:50) (ron) don't have someone else what you need to do
(08:27:53) (Host-merri) let him know it comes from your heart, inner self
(08:27:59) (Blu) no mail it to him, yourself
(08:28:05) (Blu) no second party involved
(08:28:39) (panther) i don't know his address,he wont give it to me
(08:28:52) (Host-merri) ask your friend
(08:28:58) (panther) he has an email but i don't have that either
(08:28:59) (Host-merri) for the address
(08:29:02) (ron) ask the other person that visits him
(08:29:06) (socalVon) what about drivin' by?
(08:29:27) (Blu) Panther does not drive
(08:29:30) (panther) they wont give it to me,i dont know where he is
(08:29:40) (socalVon) ok
(08:29:50) (docyabut) i known alot of people that have try to commit sucide in my life. some made it and some not
(08:30:01) (Blu) Well, in that case write it up, seal it and ask them to deliver it
(08:30:13) (panther) last time i found out where he lived and i went there he denied seeing me and then he moved out of that place
(08:30:54) (docyabut) just a few days ago i knew a girl friend of my son that did it
(08:31:19) (panther) suicide is a sad thing
(08:31:24) (socalVon) my best friend tried
(08:32:16) (socalVon) engine running in garage with door closed
(08:32:16) (Host-merri) suicide solves nothing
(08:32:43) (panther) it just hurts every one else that's living
(08:33:19) (socalVon) affects everyone..one way or another
(08:33:42) (docyabut) its was the same panther she always tired to commit suicide and my son tired and survived however she ened up really doing it
(08:35:10) (Host-merri) panther, try writing out you feelings and thoughts about this, put the paper under your pillow before going to sleep
(08:35:26) (Meg) Edgar Cayce, says that those who commit suicide, meet themselves in the next lifetime with karma, am i right?
(08:35:27) (panther) ok
(08:35:43) (Host-merri) then write down any dreams you have in the next 3 nights
(08:36:19) (panther) i heard their spirit keeps repeating the event of the suicide
(08:36:31) (panther) they never rest
(08:36:38) (Host-merri) yes Meg
(08:36:40) (socalVon) the only that comes again and again is me leaving my car and come back to a stripped or stolen one..go figure!!
(08:37:37) (socalVon) me talkin' not readin'
(08:37:41) (Host-merri) we bring back any unresolved issues in one form or another
(08:37:52) (ron) same for all of us
(08:38:23) (ron) keep coming back
(08:38:35) (Roz) is your body in jeopardy Von?
(08:38:38) (ron) but those bodies of Light
(08:38:38) (docyabut) its a sad thing however my son jump 50ft from a bridge and survived to go back to normal
(08:38:38) (socalVon) thats my dream
(08:39:00) (Meg) its all about soul growth i guess
(08:39:18) (Roz) your vehicle is your physical body
(08:39:32) (socalVon) no Roz
(08:39:32) (Bill) socal put aside negative thinking
(08:40:00) (Host-merri) true, Meg and accepting responsibility for your choices
(08:40:05) (docyabut) your friend survive for a reason
(08:40:05) (socalVon) but its the only dream I ever have
(08:40:20) (Meg) yes merri
(08:40:30) (panther) he died and then they brought him back
(08:40:43) (socalVon) you all may be right
(08:40:43) (panther) oh,sorry
(08:40:48) (Moira) If you are meditating and you doze for a second see something then wake up right away is that dreaming or remote viewing
(08:41:29) (Host-merri) sounds like dreaming Moira
(08:41:43) (Moira) ty
(08:41:46) (Host-merri) you don't have to be asleep for remote viewing
(08:42:02) (Moira) like a delta moment
(08:42:08) (docyabut) of course they say when a parent commit sucide a child growing up will attempt the same thing
(08:42:27) (socalVon) did have a stroke Roz..but no real damage
(08:42:39) (Roz) dreaming and remote viewing are not related
(08:43:23) (Roz) von was this before the dream or after?
(08:43:41) (socalVon) before
(08:43:46) (docyabut) my son`s girl friend mother did it and that why i think she did the same thing
(08:43:52) (Roz) it was a warning
(08:44:28) (socalVon) of what?
(08:44:33) (Moira) could it be a congenital predisposition ?
(08:44:34) (docyabut) i really think it is a ripple affect
(08:45:50) (Host-merri) it is a negative thought planted in the conscious mind
(08:45:59) (docyabut) in history most that do it has akid that does it beause its teaches them to give up when face with problems
(08:48:13) (docyabut) is like i told my son is that what what you want to leave your children to give up when faced with problems
(08:48:38) (Host-merri) wise words doc
(08:49:23) (Host-merri) anyone else with a dream to share
(08:50:05) (Blu) I do Merri
(08:50:15) (Host-merri) geeeez
(08:50:25) (Host-merri) I was just typing your name!!
(08:50:33) (Host-merri) lol
(08:50:33) (vjh) I just dreamed about getting something back that someone took from me. In April they found out it was mine and said they'd bring it back. It was a couch I loved and had bought new.
(08:50:41) (docyabut) everything you do in life has a rippling affect on others
(08:51:57) (vjh) My niece took it because she said her brother (who is drug addicted) told her it was his and I'm sure he sold it to her. She said, "Oh, he got mixed up. He thought it was his wife's." (Sure he didn't know the couch was his). I dreamed I thought it was still gone but it was there again.
(08:52:17) (vjh) Who knows what kind of shape it will be in as she has 2 babies and I heard she wasn't a clean person.
(08:52:48) (ron) well at least you don't have to sit on the floor to watch tv
(08:52:54) (vjh) Yes, in 1925. Then he only lived till 1945.
(08:53:02) (docyabut) lets face it dreams are what we worry about
(08:53:22) (merlin) and wonder about
(08:53:36) (SpiritDancer) most of my dreams are symbolic
(08:53:45) (ron) tell us
(08:54:07) (SpiritDancer) it's relates to personal beliefs to get messages through
(08:54:20) (Blu) I was on the top of a tall building, and I was working hard at something. When I stood up and looked out I could see a beautiful place that was like an open space all filled with light. I began to look real hard and I saw angels. True to the Virgo style I started counting the Angels! LOL Then I realized there were people walking past me, so many that I could not count them all. then I saw three women and a young girl . As I drew closer to them I realized it wa
(08:54:43) (Moira) what about the idea of putting information to the higher consciousness
(08:55:15) (Blu) Then I realized where I was and I began to recede. All their faces blended together and it became a white light and I began to spiral downward and I woke up.
(08:55:51) (LoveInfinity) took a little visit to the Other Side ahh Blu
(08:56:06) (Blu) Yes, I was happy to se my mother so happy
(08:58:25) (Moira) sounds like a fun dream Blu
(08:58:25) (vjh) That might have been a psychic dream, Blu. Could be about people who went over in Katrina or in another disaster to come. Spirits who came through to my girlfriend said there would be more changes.
(08:59:11) (Blu) Yes, I realized when I was spiraling downward I knew exactly what it was as it resembled meditation so much. The spiral of light did, and I was fighting to stay there and reconnect to them.
(08:59:58) (Blu) Yes VJH, that is exactly what I went there to see, I know because in my dream I was working hard to thelp the vitims and I have been praying for those who passed.
(09:00:54) (ron) quite a spiritual dream blu
(09:01:05) (Host-merri) Blu was it Metatron that was in one of your dreams?
(09:02:31) (Host-merri) I have been coming across that name in a book I'm reading
(09:02:55) (ron) connected to gnostic writings
(09:03:10) (ron) or cabala...can't remember
(09:07:52) (vjh) Yeah, that's true Ron, but I'm a little concerned and scared. Too many people around me have been dreaming about a tidal wave coming in here.
(09:08:29) (LoveInfinity) I dreamt of a tidal wave just last month have it down in my book
(09:09:34) (docyabut) vih its not a wonder with all that has happen concerning tidal waves
(09:10:04) (Host-merri) I remember that dream, Love
(09:10:18) (Blu) Merri did you ask me something?
(09:10:29) (Blu) I was sending email to SD
(09:10:39) (LoveInfinity) yes, merri I feel it is yet to pass
(09:10:46) (Host-merri) yes about Metatron
(09:11:02) (Blu) Yes, I met Metatron in a dream once
(09:11:30) (ron) i have a theosophicaldefinition of metatron in front of me
(09:11:34) (kazu) Oh I see Thank you
(09:11:34) (Blu) I was just emailing SD about Him
(09:11:45) (Blu) What are you reading?
(09:11:51) (Host-merri) very prominent name in Kabbalah writings
(09:12:01) (docyabut) merri i feel sorry for you trying to help everyone with their dreams
(09:12:06) (Blu) wow Ron, can you pronounce that word?
(09:12:12) (Host-merri) esoteric Kabbalah
(09:12:17) (ron) ok...one moment
(09:12:28) (Blu) I have my own beliefs as to His identity
(09:12:34) (kazu) kaballah say'S reincarnation
(09:12:48) (merlin) arch angel metatron
(09:12:49) (kazu) kaballah admit they reincarnation
(09:13:00) (Blu) Yes Metatron
(09:13:11) (Blu) He is in Charge of the Arch Angels
(09:13:18) (Blu) I would not call Him an Angel
(09:13:33) (Host-merri) according to Kabbalah teaching he is the closes angel to God
(09:13:41) (Bill) so who is Michael in charge of?
(09:13:44) (Blu) but who am I to argue with the Kabbalah
(09:13:50) (Bill) Michael
(09:13:50) (docyabut) dreams are dreams are just what one worrys about:)
(09:13:50) (kazu) Host who is he?
(09:14:35) (ron) Metatron, Hebrew....The Kabbalistic "Prince of Faces", the Intelligence of the First Sephira, and athe reputed ruler of Moses. His numeration is 314, the same as the deity title "Shaddai", Almighty. He is also
(09:14:35) (Blu) There is only one Being who sits at the Right Hand of God.
(09:14:36) (Moira) doc you already said that before my first boot lol
(09:14:40) (Host-merri) depends on what source you use kazu
(09:14:40) (Blu) That should spell it out Ron
(09:14:47) (ron) the Angel of the world of Briah, and he who conducted the Israelites through
(09:14:57) (kazu) Host is trinity true?
(09:15:47) (ron) the Wilderness, hence, the same as "the Lord God" Jehoveh. The name resembles the Greek word metathronon or "beside the Throne".
(09:15:47) (ron) end
(09:16:06) (ron) did i make any sense?
(09:16:07) (ron) did you get it?
(09:16:13) (Host-merri) yes ron
(09:16:17) (Blu) An excellent resource Ron
(09:16:17) (Blu) I like it
(09:16:42) (Blu) Metatron is a very snappy dresser too!
(09:16:51) (Host-merri) this books says He sits at God's right hand and is his messenger and a guide for us
(09:17:08) (kazu) Jesus?
(09:17:19) (kazu) yoshua?
(09:17:30) (Blu) In fact I would venture to say I met him when I was about 16 at a University I was attending. Had no idea who He was then of course.
(09:17:55) (Blu) An aspect of the One we call Jesus, yes.
(09:18:22) (docyabut) all the worry in the world won`t add a moment to anyones life -jesus:0)
(09:18:36) (Blu) LOL @ Doc
(09:19:31) (Host-merri) the name jumped out at me Blu, I remembered your dream
(09:19:46) (docyabut) there a time to go no matter how one goes
(09:20:16) (Blu) I am sorry I can not recount the reading number, but according to the readings, all Beings are an aspect of God