Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 13, 2005 19:30:35 GMT -5
Dream Chat: 08-12-05
(08:05:43) (Estrides) ...................I had a dream of some LARGE SNAILS on the wall in a bedroom and it turned me off completely.....
(08:06:36) (host-merri) what did you have to eat?
(08:06:38) (Estrides) ..........I thought to myself I'd never sleep in there
(08:06:46) (Estrides) ...........cannot remember
(08:07:10) (Estrides) .........these were BIG snails
(08:07:34) (host-merri) Cayce tells us what we eat before sleep can come back on us
(08:08:01) (Estrides) ............I did not have snails, I most probably ate a sandwich of cheese and tomatoes
(08:08:29) (host-merri) lol it doesn't have to be snails
(08:08:38) (Estrides) ...........these were BIG SNAILS
(08:08:51) (host-merri) something that disturbs the digestion
(08:09:07) (Estrides) .........I eat a lot of junk food also
(08:09:15) (Estrides) ..........may have had some
(08:09:36) (host-merri) well that could do it Estrides
(08:09:51) (Estrides) ..............SNAILS ON A WALL?
(08:09:59) (WalksInSpirit) Maybe too much salt, Estrides.
(08:10:05) (host-merri) do snails have any signifigance for you?
(08:10:16) (WalksInSpirit) Salt is an old remedy for snails.
(08:10:24) (Estrides) ............no, not particularly except I'd never eat them
(08:10:25) (vjh) Snails are known for being slow.
(08:10:34) (Estrides) ...........slow and slimely
(08:10:57) (host-merri) for some they are a delicacy
(08:11:02) (Estrides) ...........but I've never seen them so BIG
(08:11:57) (host-merri) better to get your attention
(08:12:00) (Estrides) ...........I don't take in much salt........get enough from processed foods....
(08:12:31) (Estrides) ................they were on a bedroom wall
(08:12:32) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Processed foods is like opening a salt shaker and downing raw salt, Estrides!
(08:12:55) (host-merri) could you be "blowing something out of proportion" in the present?
(08:13:17) (Estrides) ................I pretty much blow everything out of proportion............
(08:13:58) (host-merri) looks like your dream is agreeing
(08:13:59) (Estrides) ............snails on a wall...........that's a first for me..............
(08:14:21) (host-merri) anymore to the dream?
(08:14:55) (Estrides) no, except I was disgusted and I told myself that I'd never sleep in a room like that
(08:15:24) (Estrides) .............HUGE SNAILS
(08:15:36) (Estrides) ..........I don't like snails.........they are like slugs
(08:16:42) (host-merri) since the snails were out of proportion something needs adjustment in the present
(08:16:57) (Estrides) ............yes, I agree
(08:17:52) (host-merri) ask yourself what is going on in the present that needs adjusting
(08:18:13) (Estrides) ...........will do.
(08:18:35) (Estrides) ..............I have to meditate on this one yes?
(08:18:59) (host-merri) that would be helpful
(08:19:18) (Estrides) ...........shall I think of snails?
(08:19:33) (host-merri) lol....no they are only a symbol
(08:19:47) (Estrides) .....of what?
(08:20:08) (host-merri) something in the present that is out of proportion
(08:20:55) (Estrides) ........I shall meditate of what is out of proportion then........am I correct?
(08:21:07) (host-merri) yes
(08:21:27) (Estrides) .........will do..................thank you.....................ciao.
(08:25:04) (host-merri) anyone else with a dream to share
(08:25:27) (vjh) I had a dream that is perfectly obvious to me.
(08:25:50) (host-merri) tell us vjh
(08:26:14) (vjh) I'm having a hard time right now financially and my daughter has just made more expenses. And I dreamed that I went to the closet and took out an old ugly pocketbook to use.
(08:27:08) (vjh) The old ugly pocketbook obviously symbolized financial difficulties.
(08:28:34) (host-merri) aahhh but an old ugly pocketbook could hold treasures
(08:29:06) (vjh) I wish.
(08:35:27) (Mark) Merri my dreams are becomeing more conplex,...what would that mean?
(08:35:48) (host-merri) you are growing Mark
(08:37:05) (host-merri) as you become more aware Mark, it will reflect in your dreams
(08:38:32) (host-merri) do you have a dream you would like to share, Mark
(08:39:18) (Mark) wish i did Merri,....they are harder to recall
(08:39:45) (host-merri) be sure to write down whatever you remember Mark
(08:40:55) (host-merri) recall will become easier
(08:46:16) (Wanda) I have had a couple of strange dreams lately.
(08:47:00) (host-merri) please share with us Wanda
(08:47:08) (Wanda) My dreams are usually very vivid.. colors smells tastes all are included
(08:47:27) (Wanda) But these dreams have none of that
(08:48:48) (host-merri) do you have an example Wanda?
(08:49:03) (Wanda) I am floating in a cool mist. No sounds, no colors. just vaporI am looking for something but not with my eyes
(08:50:08) (host-merri) the subconscious reaching out
(08:50:13) (Wanda) It is not scary, not anxious
(08:50:52) (Wanda) Looking or feeling for something that is coming
(08:52:20) (host-merri) and it will come Wanda
(08:52:44) (Wanda) Have kind of enjoyed the floating
(08:52:50) (Lory) Anything more to your dream Wanda?
(08:53:05) (BlackWolf) Sounds like a cleansing, healing, mist, Wanda.
(08:53:08) (host-merri) no barriers to the subconscious
(08:53:32) (Wanda) I know there is more , I just have not wandered that far yet is the feeling I get
(08:54:56) (Wanda) Just enjoying the mist.
(08:55:07) (Wanda) Have dreamed it twice
(08:55:10) (Mark) what does floating mean in ones dreams?
(08:55:34) (host-merri) leaving the physical behind
(08:56:19) (Lory) To journey freely through understanding and it is associated with joy and euphoria, mark, according to my dream book.
(08:56:34) (patricia) Wanda, could it have been an obe?
(08:56:59) (Mark) i do recall from a few nites back that i was jumping then i would float for a bit then i'll jump again
(08:57:17) (Wanda) If it was I did not go anywhere identifiable. Maybe into a cloud. lol
(08:57:20) (Lory) Terrific, Mark. Good omen.
(08:58:06) (Wanda) Jump on up and join me in the cloud Mark
(08:58:56) (host-merri) here are some questions asked Cayce about dreaming
(08:59:25) (host-merri) Q-Why am I so dependent upon sleep, and what do I do during sleep?
(08:59:49) (host-merri) A- Sleep is a SENSE….and is that needed for the physical body to recuperate, or to draw from the mental and spiritual powers or forces that are held as ideals of the body.
(09:00:14) (host-merri) What happens to a body in sleep? Dependent upon what it has thought what it has set as its ideal….There are individuals who in their sleep gain strength, power might…because of their thoughts, their manner of living. There are others who find that when any harm, any illness, any dejection comes to them it is following sleep!...
(09:00:43) (host-merri) Sleep is the exercising of a faculty, a condition that is meant to be a part of the experience of each soul. It is as but the shadow of life, or lives, or experiences, as each day of an experience is a part of the whole that is being builded by an entity, a soul. And each night is but a period of putting away, storing up into the superconscious or the unconsciousness of the soul itself.
(09:01:29) (host-merri) Q-What is a dream?
(09:01:30) (Moira) merri is there an ending to the second post?
(09:02:08) (host-merri) that is the end, merlin
(09:02:20) (Moira) Moira
(09:02:36) (host-merri) A-When those forces through which the spirit and soul have manifested themselves are re-enacted by this same soul and spirit force (in such a manner) as to convey or bring back impressions to the conscious mind in the earth plane; it is termed a dream.
(09:03:06) (host-merri) This may well be caused by those forces that are taken into the system. The action of digestion that takes place under the guidance of subconscious forces becomes a part of that plane through which the spirit and soul of the entity pass at such time. Such manifestation are termed or called nightmares, or the abnormal manifestations on the physical plane of these forces.
(09:03:43) (host-merri) In the normal force of dreams, those forces are enacted that may be the foreshadows of a condition, when the soul and spirit force compares the conditions in various spheres through which the soul and spirit of a given entity has passed in its evolution to its present sphere.
(09:04:28) (host-merri) these are from the Cayce Companion Book
(09:04:51) (host-merri) In this age at present, 1923, there is not sufficient credence given dreams; for the best development of the human family is to give the greater increase in the knowledge of the subconscious soul or spirit world. This is a dream.
(09:05:26) (host-merri) (Q) Does one dream continually but simply fail to remember consciously?
(09:05:53) (host-merri) (A) Continues an association or withdraws from that which is its right, or its ability to associate! There is no difference in the unseen world to that that is visible, save in the unseen so much greater expanse or space may be covered!
(09:06:36) (host-merri) Does one always desire to associate itself with others! Do individuals always seek companionship in this or that period of their experiences in each day? Do they withdraw themselves from? That desire lies or carries on! See? It’s a natural experience! It’s not unnatural! Don’t seek for unnatural or supernatural? It is nature-it is God’s activity! His associations with man. His desire to make for man a way for an understanding!
(09:07:31) (host-merri) Is there seen or understood fully that illustration that was given of the Son of man, that while those in the ship were afraid because of the elements the Master of the sea, of the elements, slept? What associations may have been with that sleep? Was it a natural withdrawing? Yet when spoken to, the sea and the winds obeyed His voice.
(09:08:12) (host-merri) Thou may do even as He, wilt thou make thineself aware-whether that awareness through the ability of those forces within self to communicate with, understand, those elements of the spiritual life in the conscious and unconscious, these be one!
(09:08:59) (host-merri) (Q) What connection is there between the physical or conscious mind and the spiritual body during sleep or during an astral experience?
(09:09:32) (host-merri) (A) It’s as has been given, that sensing with what? That separate sense, or the ability of sleep, that makes for acuteness with those forces in the physical being that are manifest in everything animate. As the unfolding of the rose, the quickening in the womb, of the grain as it buds forth, the awakening in all nature of that which has been set by the divine forces, to make the awareness of its presence in matter or material things.
(09:10:34) (host-merri) (Q) What governs the experiences of the astral body while in the fourth dimensional plane during sleep?
(09:11:07) (host-merri) (A) This is as been given, that upon which it has fed. That which it has builded, that which it seeks, that which the mental mind, the subconscious mind, the subliminal mind, seeks! That governs. Then we come to an understanding of that, “He that would find must seek.” In the physical or material this we understand. That is a pattern of the subliminal or the spiritual self.
(09:12:59) (host-merri) ok that is all I have for tonight
(09:13:17) (host-merri) any questions?
(09:13:32) (Lory) Very interesting, merri.
(09:14:01) (BlackWolf) Was Edgar Cayce ever asked about lucid dreaming, that is becoming conscious while dreaming?
(09:14:10) (Roz) good material
(09:14:39) (host-merri) he does mention it BW but not in detail
(09:14:53) (Moira) these passages feel very empowering merri ty
(09:15:13) (Lory) That obviously had to be because he was never asked the questions pertaining lucid dreaming.
(09:15:50) (host-merri) could very well be Lory
(09:16:00) (Lory) Was it not true that he never offered information? He needed a direct question to answer.
(09:16:29) (host-merri) I could only find a passing mention of lucid dreaming
(09:16:30) (BlackWolf) Would be interesting to chart those questions about awareness of dreaming in dreaming.
(09:17:07) (host-merri) I have some info on lucid dreaming but not from Cayce
(09:17:16) (merlin) a dream within a dream
(09:17:49) (Lory) I often dream of dreaming while in dreams. And always anxious to get to my dream after having been awakened for whatever reason. And, it seems, I always do go back to the dream I was in to finish it.
(09:19:21) (host-merri) Low Lucidity
(09:19:26) (host-merri) For a brief period you are conscious of the fact that you are dreaming ("Hey, I'm dreamin, aren't I?"), but you can't hold on to that thought. Before you know it you go with the flow of the dream again.
(09:20:05) (host-merri) High Lucidity
(09:20:12) (host-merri) You are conscious of the fact that everything that happens is a dream and, that there is no real danger, and your body is safely asleep in bed.
(09:20:38) (host-merri) Everything is very bright Colors are more intense, smells smell better, and it seems you can look infinitely far.
(09:21:19) (host-merri) Absolute Lucidity
(09:21:25) (host-merri) From the moment you fall asleep you know you are dreaming and you have everything under control. Rather than becoming conscious while dreaming, you go into the dreamstate consciously. Lucid dreaming is slowly gaining popularity in the western world. It is, however, an art that has been practised