Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 9, 2007 2:18:46 GMT -5
Psychic Sources: 02-08-7
Host-Blu says: Text Of Reading 5752-3
Host-Blu says: CATEGORY:Special-PsychicSources
Host-Blu says: SUBJECT:Psychic sources
Lynn says: oh, yeah, SUBJECT:Psychic sources Teach it, Blu!
diane says: we like Psychic Sources!
Lynn says: I relate. Or when puppies being just born are involved!!!
Host-Blu says: today I am going to use a different approach Lynn, you guys are going to do the work
Lynn says: ok
Host-Blu says: I am going to present the text and you all are going to translate in your own words
diane says: ok...ooops . did you say "work"
Lynn says: Cayce says "do"
Host-Blu says: yes di, get out your thinking cap
diane says: it's been in mothballs
Host-Blu says: Who will volunteer the prayer today?
Lynn says: I will not be greedy and not grab them all for my philosophy. LOL
ron says: ok, a nice subject
Host-Blu says: I think this is a great reading, has much information condensed in a short amount of material
diane says: I can lead prayer if you want
Host-Blu says: Thank you Diane
true_eagle says: great di
Host-Blu says: Di, start any time you wish
diane says: Bless us oh Lord with the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. Let all of our thoughts and works be wrought in Thee. Amen
Host-Blu says: Amen
Lynn says: Amen
true_eagle says: AMEN ^I^
ron says: amen
Host-Blu says: As I said I will start with the reading and where I feel it is a good place to stop I will ask questions or make a comment. However feel free to stop me any time and make comments or questions.
diane says: k
Lynn says: I shall attempt to restrain my over eagerness.
Host-Blu says: please let me know if it appears to cut off
diane says: will do
Host-Blu says: HLC: You will present that which will be beneficial to those present in understanding the relations of sources of psychic information that may be helpful to mankind in his present experience, and how there may be determined that which is truth and that which is false.
Host-Blu says: this should be a great guideline to use in all matters of life.
Host-Blu says: EC: Yes. In presenting that which may be helpful, it is understood by many that there is the body, the soul, the spirit. Words are often confusing in describing terms in each of these conditions.
diane says: discernment, yes
Host-Blu says: Yet, if they are determined for the present, these conditions may aid those seeking to determine or know that which may be helpful and the sources of information that may be presented through any or all of such channels.
Host-Blu says: In the beginning, as matter was impregnated with spirit of the creative influence, there came into being Man in his environment that made for the indwelling of the spirit, with a soul that might be made one with that Creative Energy.
Host-Blu says: (Host question; What difference do you see here between man and the rest of creation?)
Lynn says: Shall I?
Host-Blu says: go
Lynn says: A breath of God enters man and awaits for man to check it out and welcome all of God in to share the adventure.
Lynn says: Did I make it clear?
Host-Blu says: I am pondering it
Lynn says: Or confuse it
Host-Blu says: life is the breath of God, right?
diane says: man had a soul
Lynn says: right
Lynn says: God breathes in spires
Host-Blu says: right
ron says: spirit = life
Host-Blu says: but what distinction is in man that is not in all life?
Host-Blu says: and Diane said it
diane says: The Soul
Host-Blu says: yes
Host-Blu says: That matter became impregnated with spirit arose from the very fact that spirit (separated) had erred, and only through the environ of matter (or flesh) might the attributes of the source of good be manifested.
Lynn says: hi
diane says: and that the soul may be made one with that Creative Energy
Lynn says: excellent, Blu
Host-Blu says: now what does this mean that spirit erred?
Host-Blu says: I think this is a hard concept and best to get it straight right away
Host-Blu says: Does this mean that God made a mistake?
diane says: the spirit made the mistake of separating from the Creative Force?
Host-Blu says: ?
ron says: one should, at first, define spirit, relation to choice
Host-Blu says: that is a good point Diane
ron says: thus, image
ron says: or individuality
diane says: no, God didn't make the mistake. God didn't really want a bunch of robots
diane says: He wanted us to choose to know Him
Host-Blu says: ok ron, let me re paste this
Host-Blu says: In presenting that which may be helpful, it is understood by many that there is the body, the soul, the spirit. Words are often confusing in describing terms in each of these conditions.
Host-Blu says: In the beginning, as matter was impregnated with spirit of the creative influence
Host-Blu says: so we see that matter had a particular kind of spirit put into it didn't it?
Lynn says: I get it.
Host-Blu says: or perhaps an aspect of spirit shall we say
Host-Blu says: now because of that this happened
Host-Blu says: there came into being Man in his environment that made for the indwelling of the spirit, with a soul that might be made one with that Creative Energy.
Host-Blu says: So there is a distinction here between soul and spirit
ron says: define "image of God"
Host-Blu says: the soul is the avenue or tool that spirit has to be made one with the Creative energy
diane says: so all matter has life force, all matter has spirit. but NOT all matter has SOUL
Host-Blu says: right Diane
Host-Blu says: The definition here Ron is not of image of God, but a reference to The Creative Energy"
Host-Blu says: LOL
ron says: i thought that was already defined...but go on for me...trying to follow you
ron says: i really appreciate this conversation
Host-Blu says: I am trying to see what this particular statement means to us....
Host-Blu says: That matter became impregnated with spirit arose from the very fact that spirit (separated) had erred, and only through the environ of matter (or flesh) might the attributes of the source of good be manifested
Host-Blu says: It implies to me that there is an aspect of spirit, that has seperated from the Creative Energy and is an error in the purpose of the Creative energy
Host-Blu says: and we are all a manifestation of the spirit in error
diane says: We're all flawed
Lynn says: from chaos, individual manifestation.....must be separated
Host-Blu says: Not that The Creative energy as in the total of Creative energy erred, but that this aspect of it did
Host-Blu says: am I muddling the waters here?
Host-Blu says: I think this is an important issue, because this is where we get tangled up in the concept that God made a mistake
Lynn says: it seems clear to me. I am discovering new truths. TY
Host-Blu says: ready to move on?
diane says: Great idea to look at this, but pretty deep
diane says: ready
Host-Blu says: This is where we must seek understanding from the Creative Spirit!
Host-Blu says: For, the spirit of evil has not, did not, become manifested in matter; only has it moved by or upon or through matter.
Lynn says: WOW!
Lynn says: evil is live spelled backwards
Host-Blu says: wow?
Host-Blu says: LOL
Host-Blu says: Hence, as the process of time has moved in and through matter, there has come to man - in the finite mind - the consciousness of the indwelling of soul, spirit, body.
Host-Blu says: I read and reread that statement
Host-Blu says: Like I need to soak it up
Host-Blu says: time is a process
Lynn says: I love it also, Blu. Reading again and again. Panning gold. ty
Host-Blu says: Hence, there is (through these influences of the acts of the body in the finite sphere moved upon by the soul, the mind,
Host-Blu says: the spirit) the attempt to make those influences upon the minds, the activities of man in his present state.
Lynn says: The one who creates
Host-Blu says: Then, the sources of information that may be presented to the mind of man in the finite state are reached through comprehending the consciousness of that influence from the sources of all influences that may move upon the consciousness as to become aware of an activity in the impulses of that being, whether from those that have been moved toward the preparations for the dwelling with the creative influences from the beginning or from those that have been moved by those influences that separated that spirit in its first premise before moving into matter in its activity upon that which became the influence in MAN'S mind in the finite state.
Lynn says: That is exactly what happens when I create.
Host-Blu says: Hence, as we find, the MIND of man then divided for the understanding into the conscious, physical conscious, the subconscious or under-conscious, or unconscious conscious,
Host-Blu says: and the super or the soul conscious of the individual entity.
diane says: mercy
Host-Blu says: we are made into levels
Lynn says: Wow. and Elohim is plural.
diane says: that's one heck of a divided MIND
Host-Blu says: LOL, but apparently necessary
Host-Blu says: think about it, if we had to stop and think about breathing every few nano seconds we would not accomplish much
diane says: awesome creations are we..for better or worse
Host-Blu says: for the better i think
Lynn says: In the image of God.
Lynn says: That means God is the same way.
diane says: You've sort of described the learning process and all it's variations
Host-Blu says: we can operate in this realm like multitaskers with this divided mind
Host-Blu says: I don't think so Lynn
Lynn says: Maybe I am not clear. Oh, well. That's me
Host-Blu says: ok, lets look at this
Host-Blu says: why do we have a divided mind?
Lynn says: I think I know
Host-Blu says: because we are not aware of who we truly are, lost in matter
Host-Blu says: only in this state of awareness are we divided
Lynn says: ok, different concepts, Blu. I'll go with yours.
Host-Blu says: The original impulse of the Creative force is not divided
Lynn says: true
diane says: then say, in meditation we're more "together"
Lynn says: What is the law of the first cause....to you? Please.
diane says: kind of information or consciousness that may make its
Host-Blu says: And, as matter is in its first premise moved upon by the spirit, as to whether this is in accord with the law of the first cause determines the character or kind of information or consciousness that may make its activity or stamp upon the consciousness that receives that imprint.
Host-Blu says: And hence the fruits thereof are the tests of whether the sources of supply are of the Creative Forces or the degrading forces in the application of same in the experience of the individual or entity that receives or becomes conscious of same.
Host-Blu says: So can anyone translate what this is saying for me?
diane says: matter is moved upon by spirit, ok?
Host-Blu says: yes
diane says: if the spirit is in accord with the law of the first cause...which i take as being the Christ Consciousness
Host-Blu says: ok
diane says: the spirit will affect matter in such a way that it imprints all matter with that activity
Host-Blu says: what determines the kind of information we get when we seek information?
diane says: now, if the spirit is getting muddied with the degrading forces
ron says: pretty good thinking there diane :)
diane says: those degrading forces will imprint the matter with a degrading nature
diane says: ty ron
diane says: our spirit influences matter and we must guard it from the degrading forces
ron says: the result of our own thinking, whether individually or collectively?
diane says: Good point, Ron....from both, but i think it must begin with the individual
ron says: yes, i understand Diane
Lynn says: To me its interesting that both forces come from the same source. lol
diane says: Great....Who's next for a translation for Blu?
diane says: Very interesting, Lynn
Lynn says: That's my one sentence translation. Is it as confusing as usual?
Host-Blu says: ok, now where are we? everyone understand everything so far?
Host-Blu says: should I continue/
Host-Blu says: ?
Lynn says: I like the branches, new thoughts.
true_eagle says: sure
diane says: We think we do, Blu
Lynn says: more -- more -- more
Host-Blu says: ok, to continue
Host-Blu says: For, each soul must seek for its OWN development to the consciousness of being in accord with, and one with, that which is creative in its elemental as well as positive forces in its experience.
Host-Blu says: Hence whether in life as manifested in a material plane or whether in the inter-between, that which has been and is the impelling influence for the consciousness of the individual is the determining influence in that
Host-Blu says: reaction which that individual soul (that is a portion of the Whole) is to become, whether it is to be one with or separate from its creative influence in its experience.
Lynn says: the emphasis is on creative.
Host-Blu says: yes Lynn, but there is a negative and a positive kind of creativeness
Host-Blu says: we must bear that in mind
Lynn says: Dance, Shiva, Dance!
diane says: Or is everything "neutral" ...neither neg. or pos. Just neutral until our spirit acts upon the matter
Lynn says: What is creative for the fox is destructive for the rabbit. LOL
diane says: Our spirit is what brings the nature of matter to reverence or degradation
Lynn says: rabbit
true_eagle says: weres my moon at today.. an il tell u !
Host-Blu says: So we must find that which impels us and see if it is one that separates or cause us to become One with the Creative forces
diane says: lol, mike...you tell it!
true_eagle says: ty
Host-Blu says: Actually Lynn as to the animal kingdom, even it has been influenced by the spirit of separation
Lynn says: very true
Host-Blu says: The Lion and the lamb are to lie down together!
diane says: yes...no lions lying down with lambs these days
Lynn says: Some people even try to separate animals from souls. LOL
true_eagle says: com on lord ..
Lynn says: My kitty, Honey Boy, had a pet hamster. They loved each other.
Host-Blu says: Hence, when we put these into those terms in which we may as individuals grasp, all souls must come to the knowledge and consciousness of their oneness with their individuality; yes,
Lynn says: Honey Boy was very protective of HIS hamster.
Host-Blu says: their consciousness of being one with the influence that makes for growth to that they worship in their inner selves.
Host-Blu says: Hence the source is from that which has been builded in the experience of a soul, as to what plane, as to what sphere of experience it has become conscious of in its journey from the impregnation of spirit in matter to the spirit in oneness with that which gives it life, its activity, its separation,
Host-Blu says: How to determine that which is good and that which is evil?
Host-Blu says: In the application does the seeker find that which answers to that IT has set as ITS ideal, that IT may worship, that IT may become one with in its consciousness, in its sphere.
Host-Blu says: What separated spirit from its first cause, or [what] causes good and evil?
Lynn says: all ITs are not the same
Host-Blu says: Desire! DESIRE!
Host-Blu says: Hence Desire is the opposite of Will. Will and Desire, one with the Creative Forces of Good, brings all its influence in the realm of activity that makes for that which is constructive in the experience of the soul, the mind, the body, one with the spirit of truth.
Host-Blu says: In seeking, then, ye that seek the souls of men that they may present that which is proof, that which is truth, that which is constructive in a material life, from the souls and spirits of those as they journeyed in the spheres of activity:
ron says: what did the First Cause desire?
Host-Blu says: KNOW in whom, in what THOU believest. If the desire of the heart, the soul of self is constructive in thine own consciousness, then that thou receivest in thine OWN consciousness may not come save from that sphere, that soul, that may - too - be constructive in its progress through that journey that is before each soul in its activity in eternity in which each soul finds itself in a physical, a mental consciousness.
Host-Blu says: we are getting to that Ron
Host-Blu says: Do that which is good, for there has been given in the consciousness of all the fruits of the spirit: Fellowship, kindness, gentleness, patience, long-suffering, love; these be the fruits of the spirit. Against such there is no law.
Host-Blu says: There it is in a nut shell Ron
Host-Blu says: Basic law of Love
Host-Blu says: Doubt, fear, avarice, greed, selfishness, self-will; these are the fruits of the evil forces. Against such there IS a law. Self-preservation, then, should be in the fruits of the spirit, as ye seek through any channel to know more of the path from life - from good to good - to life; from death unto life, from evil unto good. Seek and ye shall find. Meditate on the fruits of the Spirit in the inner secrets of the consciousness, and the cells in the body become aware of the awakening of the life in their activity through the body. In the mind, the cells of the mind become aware of the life in the spirit. The spirit of life maketh not afraid.
diane says: 7 deadly sins
Host-Blu says: Then, know the way; for those that seek may find.
Host-Blu says: Ready for questions.
diane says: hmmm, wonder if antichrist will meditate on the fruits of evil forces?
Lynn says: The fox is hungry.
Host-Blu says: I would say he doesn't have to, he is the fruit of evil forces!
Host-Blu says: (Q) Are there any suggestions of a specific nature which would be of help in the studies to be conducted here in Hyslop House this winter?
Host-Blu says: (A) In the study of every soul that would be a channel to make known more of the mysteries of this journey of the soul,
Host-Blu says: test each for that which will be constructive in thine own consciousness in the fruits of the Spirit; and the work becomes helpful to all.
Host-Blu says: We are through.
true_eagle says: there r minny levals to the spiritual... an where we r in this life !
Host-Blu says: end of that reading!
Lynn says: Than k you, Blu. It helps me.
Host-Blu says: It helps me too Lynn
diane says: you have more, Blu?
Host-Blu says: nope
Host-Blu says: LOL
Host-Blu says: You want more!!!???
diane says: whew!
Lynn says: It is a seven course meal. I shall meditate on it today.
Host-Blu says: If we can digest this it will be a miracle!
diane says: *wiping forehead...NO
ron says: i enjoyed it Blu
Host-Blu says: LOLOL
Host-Blu says: I do have another item from the news I would like to share
Lynn says: I shall snack on it. LOL better than sugar!
true_eagle says: go blu
Host-Blu says: I think it shows something that will help us to see the good in all religions
diane says: sugar's my nemisis too Lynn...need to bring it down
Lynn says: Well, I kicked it. Since January 21st, I have not yet sinned in that respect
diane says: Great point, Blu
Host-Blu says: Cabbie Returns Bag of Diamond Rings
Host-Blu says: By VERENA DOBNIK
diane says: that is just awesome Lynn...bless you
Host-Blu says: NEW YORK (Feb. 7) -- Never mind diamonds -- a New York cabbie was a Texas girl's best friend. The driver returned 31 diamond rings he found in his cab after dropping off the passenger, who had left him with a 30-cent tip on a $10.70 fare.
diane says: it's sooooo hard to do
Host-Blu says: "All my life, I tried to be honest," said Osman Chowdhury, a native of Bangladesh. "Today is no different."
Host-Blu says: But the 41-year-old cabbie from Queens did have a message: "I'm proud of what I did so that people know New York taxi drivers are honest."
Host-Blu says: What he did started on Monday evening, when he picked up the woman at a hotel in midtown Manhattan and drove her to an apartment building several blocks away. She gave him $20 to pay the fare and asked for $9 back.
Host-Blu says: Hours later, at about 10 p.m., three other passengers with luggage discovered the woman's suitcase when Chowdhury popped the trunk open for them.
Host-Blu says: Chowdhury first drove to the building where he had dropped off the woman. But he had no idea in which of the many apartments she might be and didn't want to cause a disruption by knocking on doors.
Host-Blu says: He took the suitcase to the Manhattan headquarters of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance, a drivers' advocacy group to which he belongs. He and the alliance president looked inside and found two display cases with 31 diamond rings inside.
Host-Blu says: "I saw flashing, and I said, 'Oh my God! Diamonds!'" Chowdhury recalled. "I was shocked. I was trembling."
Host-Blu says: They also found a small luggage tag with a Texas telephone number they called -- the home of the woman's mother in Dallas. Meanwhile, she called the number, too.
Host-Blu says: The woman, who said she was a jeweler, got back the gems on Monday when she arrived at the alliance office around midnight -- incredulous at her luck. She offered Chowdhury a reward -- a check for $100.
diane says: cool
Lynn says: And he has treasure to cherish for a life time.
Host-Blu says: that is the gist of the story
Host-Blu says: LOLOL, I would have fondled those diamonds a while before returning them!
diane says: she'll prolly profit at least 100 x's that much, with all the mark up on jewelry. LOL
diane says: See how my mind works!!!
Lynn says: I wonder if he accepted the "reward"
true_eagle says: sure he did
diane says: Yeah! Should have said "Stick It"
Lynn says: its cool either way
Lynn says: I wonder if the check bounced.
diane says: LOL
true_eagle says: but ! ..... goodness is its own reward !
Lynn says: I don't want a paupers pence. I want a king's reward. LOL
ron says: :)
Lynn says: I am greedy. LOL
Host-Blu says: He took the money to make up for the lost fares he would have made during the time it took him to find the owner
diane says: i had a wallet of mine mailed to me after I left it at a thu-way rest stop! And that is only the first time it happened
Lynn says: He had bills to pay.
diane says: I've had wallets come back to me 3 times!
diane says: cash gone, but everything else ok
Host-Blu says: I think this is a fine example of the "Imprint" of the Creative Froces on this mans being
diane says: I agree
Host-Blu says: regardless of any religious beliefs he might have
Lynn says: He had an ideal.
diane says: and it imprinted itself on the matter around him
true_eagle says: in the light .. on the path... u have no choice... THE KNOWING ^I^
Host-Blu says: abosolutely
Host-Blu says: and absolutely too
Host-Blu says: ;-)
Lynn says: lol
true_eagle says: IS U IS OR IS U AINT !
Lynn says: maybe both. Most things are paradox.
diane says: you just sounded just like my dad, mike!
true_eagle says: there is no in-between with ...GOD
Lynn says: I could not have lived with myself if I kept something I found and could return.
true_eagle says: ty di
Lynn says: no choice for me
diane says: He who's neither cold nor hot...not good
diane says: He who is not with Me, is against Me
true_eagle says: none 4 me .. i am his .. he is mine ^i^
Lynn says: I, of course, am luke warm.
Lynn says: sorry, that was a lie.
diane says: Then Heat up!
Host-Blu says: I hope this material has been of help,. I know I will be thinking about it
Lynn says: I shall think of it and apply it ardently.
Host-Blu says: CATEGORY:Special-PsychicSources
Host-Blu says: SUBJECT:Psychic sources
Lynn says: oh, yeah, SUBJECT:Psychic sources Teach it, Blu!
diane says: we like Psychic Sources!
Lynn says: I relate. Or when puppies being just born are involved!!!
Host-Blu says: today I am going to use a different approach Lynn, you guys are going to do the work
Lynn says: ok
Host-Blu says: I am going to present the text and you all are going to translate in your own words
diane says: ok...ooops . did you say "work"
Lynn says: Cayce says "do"
Host-Blu says: yes di, get out your thinking cap
diane says: it's been in mothballs
Host-Blu says: Who will volunteer the prayer today?
Lynn says: I will not be greedy and not grab them all for my philosophy. LOL
ron says: ok, a nice subject
Host-Blu says: I think this is a great reading, has much information condensed in a short amount of material
diane says: I can lead prayer if you want
Host-Blu says: Thank you Diane
true_eagle says: great di
Host-Blu says: Di, start any time you wish
diane says: Bless us oh Lord with the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. Let all of our thoughts and works be wrought in Thee. Amen
Host-Blu says: Amen
Lynn says: Amen
true_eagle says: AMEN ^I^
ron says: amen
Host-Blu says: As I said I will start with the reading and where I feel it is a good place to stop I will ask questions or make a comment. However feel free to stop me any time and make comments or questions.
diane says: k
Lynn says: I shall attempt to restrain my over eagerness.
Host-Blu says: please let me know if it appears to cut off
diane says: will do
Host-Blu says: HLC: You will present that which will be beneficial to those present in understanding the relations of sources of psychic information that may be helpful to mankind in his present experience, and how there may be determined that which is truth and that which is false.
Host-Blu says: this should be a great guideline to use in all matters of life.
Host-Blu says: EC: Yes. In presenting that which may be helpful, it is understood by many that there is the body, the soul, the spirit. Words are often confusing in describing terms in each of these conditions.
diane says: discernment, yes
Host-Blu says: Yet, if they are determined for the present, these conditions may aid those seeking to determine or know that which may be helpful and the sources of information that may be presented through any or all of such channels.
Host-Blu says: In the beginning, as matter was impregnated with spirit of the creative influence, there came into being Man in his environment that made for the indwelling of the spirit, with a soul that might be made one with that Creative Energy.
Host-Blu says: (Host question; What difference do you see here between man and the rest of creation?)
Lynn says: Shall I?
Host-Blu says: go
Lynn says: A breath of God enters man and awaits for man to check it out and welcome all of God in to share the adventure.
Lynn says: Did I make it clear?
Host-Blu says: I am pondering it
Lynn says: Or confuse it
Host-Blu says: life is the breath of God, right?
diane says: man had a soul
Lynn says: right
Lynn says: God breathes in spires
Host-Blu says: right
ron says: spirit = life
Host-Blu says: but what distinction is in man that is not in all life?
Host-Blu says: and Diane said it
diane says: The Soul
Host-Blu says: yes
Host-Blu says: That matter became impregnated with spirit arose from the very fact that spirit (separated) had erred, and only through the environ of matter (or flesh) might the attributes of the source of good be manifested.
Lynn says: hi
diane says: and that the soul may be made one with that Creative Energy
Lynn says: excellent, Blu
Host-Blu says: now what does this mean that spirit erred?
Host-Blu says: I think this is a hard concept and best to get it straight right away
Host-Blu says: Does this mean that God made a mistake?
diane says: the spirit made the mistake of separating from the Creative Force?
Host-Blu says: ?
ron says: one should, at first, define spirit, relation to choice
Host-Blu says: that is a good point Diane
ron says: thus, image
ron says: or individuality
diane says: no, God didn't make the mistake. God didn't really want a bunch of robots
diane says: He wanted us to choose to know Him
Host-Blu says: ok ron, let me re paste this
Host-Blu says: In presenting that which may be helpful, it is understood by many that there is the body, the soul, the spirit. Words are often confusing in describing terms in each of these conditions.
Host-Blu says: In the beginning, as matter was impregnated with spirit of the creative influence
Host-Blu says: so we see that matter had a particular kind of spirit put into it didn't it?
Lynn says: I get it.
Host-Blu says: or perhaps an aspect of spirit shall we say
Host-Blu says: now because of that this happened
Host-Blu says: there came into being Man in his environment that made for the indwelling of the spirit, with a soul that might be made one with that Creative Energy.
Host-Blu says: So there is a distinction here between soul and spirit
ron says: define "image of God"
Host-Blu says: the soul is the avenue or tool that spirit has to be made one with the Creative energy
diane says: so all matter has life force, all matter has spirit. but NOT all matter has SOUL
Host-Blu says: right Diane
Host-Blu says: The definition here Ron is not of image of God, but a reference to The Creative Energy"
Host-Blu says: LOL
ron says: i thought that was already defined...but go on for me...trying to follow you
ron says: i really appreciate this conversation
Host-Blu says: I am trying to see what this particular statement means to us....
Host-Blu says: That matter became impregnated with spirit arose from the very fact that spirit (separated) had erred, and only through the environ of matter (or flesh) might the attributes of the source of good be manifested
Host-Blu says: It implies to me that there is an aspect of spirit, that has seperated from the Creative Energy and is an error in the purpose of the Creative energy
Host-Blu says: and we are all a manifestation of the spirit in error
diane says: We're all flawed
Lynn says: from chaos, individual manifestation.....must be separated
Host-Blu says: Not that The Creative energy as in the total of Creative energy erred, but that this aspect of it did
Host-Blu says: am I muddling the waters here?
Host-Blu says: I think this is an important issue, because this is where we get tangled up in the concept that God made a mistake
Lynn says: it seems clear to me. I am discovering new truths. TY
Host-Blu says: ready to move on?
diane says: Great idea to look at this, but pretty deep
diane says: ready
Host-Blu says: This is where we must seek understanding from the Creative Spirit!
Host-Blu says: For, the spirit of evil has not, did not, become manifested in matter; only has it moved by or upon or through matter.
Lynn says: WOW!
Lynn says: evil is live spelled backwards
Host-Blu says: wow?
Host-Blu says: LOL
Host-Blu says: Hence, as the process of time has moved in and through matter, there has come to man - in the finite mind - the consciousness of the indwelling of soul, spirit, body.
Host-Blu says: I read and reread that statement
Host-Blu says: Like I need to soak it up
Host-Blu says: time is a process
Lynn says: I love it also, Blu. Reading again and again. Panning gold. ty
Host-Blu says: Hence, there is (through these influences of the acts of the body in the finite sphere moved upon by the soul, the mind,
Host-Blu says: the spirit) the attempt to make those influences upon the minds, the activities of man in his present state.
Lynn says: The one who creates
Host-Blu says: Then, the sources of information that may be presented to the mind of man in the finite state are reached through comprehending the consciousness of that influence from the sources of all influences that may move upon the consciousness as to become aware of an activity in the impulses of that being, whether from those that have been moved toward the preparations for the dwelling with the creative influences from the beginning or from those that have been moved by those influences that separated that spirit in its first premise before moving into matter in its activity upon that which became the influence in MAN'S mind in the finite state.
Lynn says: That is exactly what happens when I create.
Host-Blu says: Hence, as we find, the MIND of man then divided for the understanding into the conscious, physical conscious, the subconscious or under-conscious, or unconscious conscious,
Host-Blu says: and the super or the soul conscious of the individual entity.
diane says: mercy
Host-Blu says: we are made into levels
Lynn says: Wow. and Elohim is plural.
diane says: that's one heck of a divided MIND
Host-Blu says: LOL, but apparently necessary
Host-Blu says: think about it, if we had to stop and think about breathing every few nano seconds we would not accomplish much
diane says: awesome creations are we..for better or worse
Host-Blu says: for the better i think
Lynn says: In the image of God.
Lynn says: That means God is the same way.
diane says: You've sort of described the learning process and all it's variations
Host-Blu says: we can operate in this realm like multitaskers with this divided mind
Host-Blu says: I don't think so Lynn
Lynn says: Maybe I am not clear. Oh, well. That's me
Host-Blu says: ok, lets look at this
Host-Blu says: why do we have a divided mind?
Lynn says: I think I know
Host-Blu says: because we are not aware of who we truly are, lost in matter
Host-Blu says: only in this state of awareness are we divided
Lynn says: ok, different concepts, Blu. I'll go with yours.
Host-Blu says: The original impulse of the Creative force is not divided
Lynn says: true
diane says: then say, in meditation we're more "together"
Lynn says: What is the law of the first cause....to you? Please.
diane says: kind of information or consciousness that may make its
Host-Blu says: And, as matter is in its first premise moved upon by the spirit, as to whether this is in accord with the law of the first cause determines the character or kind of information or consciousness that may make its activity or stamp upon the consciousness that receives that imprint.
Host-Blu says: And hence the fruits thereof are the tests of whether the sources of supply are of the Creative Forces or the degrading forces in the application of same in the experience of the individual or entity that receives or becomes conscious of same.
Host-Blu says: So can anyone translate what this is saying for me?
diane says: matter is moved upon by spirit, ok?
Host-Blu says: yes
diane says: if the spirit is in accord with the law of the first cause...which i take as being the Christ Consciousness
Host-Blu says: ok
diane says: the spirit will affect matter in such a way that it imprints all matter with that activity
Host-Blu says: what determines the kind of information we get when we seek information?
diane says: now, if the spirit is getting muddied with the degrading forces
ron says: pretty good thinking there diane :)
diane says: those degrading forces will imprint the matter with a degrading nature
diane says: ty ron
diane says: our spirit influences matter and we must guard it from the degrading forces
ron says: the result of our own thinking, whether individually or collectively?
diane says: Good point, Ron....from both, but i think it must begin with the individual
ron says: yes, i understand Diane
Lynn says: To me its interesting that both forces come from the same source. lol
diane says: Great....Who's next for a translation for Blu?
diane says: Very interesting, Lynn
Lynn says: That's my one sentence translation. Is it as confusing as usual?
Host-Blu says: ok, now where are we? everyone understand everything so far?
Host-Blu says: should I continue/
Host-Blu says: ?
Lynn says: I like the branches, new thoughts.
true_eagle says: sure
diane says: We think we do, Blu
Lynn says: more -- more -- more
Host-Blu says: ok, to continue
Host-Blu says: For, each soul must seek for its OWN development to the consciousness of being in accord with, and one with, that which is creative in its elemental as well as positive forces in its experience.
Host-Blu says: Hence whether in life as manifested in a material plane or whether in the inter-between, that which has been and is the impelling influence for the consciousness of the individual is the determining influence in that
Host-Blu says: reaction which that individual soul (that is a portion of the Whole) is to become, whether it is to be one with or separate from its creative influence in its experience.
Lynn says: the emphasis is on creative.
Host-Blu says: yes Lynn, but there is a negative and a positive kind of creativeness
Host-Blu says: we must bear that in mind
Lynn says: Dance, Shiva, Dance!
diane says: Or is everything "neutral" ...neither neg. or pos. Just neutral until our spirit acts upon the matter
Lynn says: What is creative for the fox is destructive for the rabbit. LOL
diane says: Our spirit is what brings the nature of matter to reverence or degradation
Lynn says: rabbit
true_eagle says: weres my moon at today.. an il tell u !
Host-Blu says: So we must find that which impels us and see if it is one that separates or cause us to become One with the Creative forces
diane says: lol, mike...you tell it!
true_eagle says: ty
Host-Blu says: Actually Lynn as to the animal kingdom, even it has been influenced by the spirit of separation
Lynn says: very true
Host-Blu says: The Lion and the lamb are to lie down together!
diane says: yes...no lions lying down with lambs these days
Lynn says: Some people even try to separate animals from souls. LOL
true_eagle says: com on lord ..
Lynn says: My kitty, Honey Boy, had a pet hamster. They loved each other.
Host-Blu says: Hence, when we put these into those terms in which we may as individuals grasp, all souls must come to the knowledge and consciousness of their oneness with their individuality; yes,
Lynn says: Honey Boy was very protective of HIS hamster.
Host-Blu says: their consciousness of being one with the influence that makes for growth to that they worship in their inner selves.
Host-Blu says: Hence the source is from that which has been builded in the experience of a soul, as to what plane, as to what sphere of experience it has become conscious of in its journey from the impregnation of spirit in matter to the spirit in oneness with that which gives it life, its activity, its separation,
Host-Blu says: How to determine that which is good and that which is evil?
Host-Blu says: In the application does the seeker find that which answers to that IT has set as ITS ideal, that IT may worship, that IT may become one with in its consciousness, in its sphere.
Host-Blu says: What separated spirit from its first cause, or [what] causes good and evil?
Lynn says: all ITs are not the same
Host-Blu says: Desire! DESIRE!
Host-Blu says: Hence Desire is the opposite of Will. Will and Desire, one with the Creative Forces of Good, brings all its influence in the realm of activity that makes for that which is constructive in the experience of the soul, the mind, the body, one with the spirit of truth.
Host-Blu says: In seeking, then, ye that seek the souls of men that they may present that which is proof, that which is truth, that which is constructive in a material life, from the souls and spirits of those as they journeyed in the spheres of activity:
ron says: what did the First Cause desire?
Host-Blu says: KNOW in whom, in what THOU believest. If the desire of the heart, the soul of self is constructive in thine own consciousness, then that thou receivest in thine OWN consciousness may not come save from that sphere, that soul, that may - too - be constructive in its progress through that journey that is before each soul in its activity in eternity in which each soul finds itself in a physical, a mental consciousness.
Host-Blu says: we are getting to that Ron
Host-Blu says: Do that which is good, for there has been given in the consciousness of all the fruits of the spirit: Fellowship, kindness, gentleness, patience, long-suffering, love; these be the fruits of the spirit. Against such there is no law.
Host-Blu says: There it is in a nut shell Ron
Host-Blu says: Basic law of Love
Host-Blu says: Doubt, fear, avarice, greed, selfishness, self-will; these are the fruits of the evil forces. Against such there IS a law. Self-preservation, then, should be in the fruits of the spirit, as ye seek through any channel to know more of the path from life - from good to good - to life; from death unto life, from evil unto good. Seek and ye shall find. Meditate on the fruits of the Spirit in the inner secrets of the consciousness, and the cells in the body become aware of the awakening of the life in their activity through the body. In the mind, the cells of the mind become aware of the life in the spirit. The spirit of life maketh not afraid.
diane says: 7 deadly sins
Host-Blu says: Then, know the way; for those that seek may find.
Host-Blu says: Ready for questions.
diane says: hmmm, wonder if antichrist will meditate on the fruits of evil forces?
Lynn says: The fox is hungry.
Host-Blu says: I would say he doesn't have to, he is the fruit of evil forces!
Host-Blu says: (Q) Are there any suggestions of a specific nature which would be of help in the studies to be conducted here in Hyslop House this winter?
Host-Blu says: (A) In the study of every soul that would be a channel to make known more of the mysteries of this journey of the soul,
Host-Blu says: test each for that which will be constructive in thine own consciousness in the fruits of the Spirit; and the work becomes helpful to all.
Host-Blu says: We are through.
true_eagle says: there r minny levals to the spiritual... an where we r in this life !
Host-Blu says: end of that reading!
Lynn says: Than k you, Blu. It helps me.
Host-Blu says: It helps me too Lynn
diane says: you have more, Blu?
Host-Blu says: nope
Host-Blu says: LOL
Host-Blu says: You want more!!!???
diane says: whew!
Lynn says: It is a seven course meal. I shall meditate on it today.
Host-Blu says: If we can digest this it will be a miracle!
diane says: *wiping forehead...NO
ron says: i enjoyed it Blu
Host-Blu says: LOLOL
Host-Blu says: I do have another item from the news I would like to share
Lynn says: I shall snack on it. LOL better than sugar!
true_eagle says: go blu
Host-Blu says: I think it shows something that will help us to see the good in all religions
diane says: sugar's my nemisis too Lynn...need to bring it down
Lynn says: Well, I kicked it. Since January 21st, I have not yet sinned in that respect
diane says: Great point, Blu
Host-Blu says: Cabbie Returns Bag of Diamond Rings
Host-Blu says: By VERENA DOBNIK
diane says: that is just awesome Lynn...bless you
Host-Blu says: NEW YORK (Feb. 7) -- Never mind diamonds -- a New York cabbie was a Texas girl's best friend. The driver returned 31 diamond rings he found in his cab after dropping off the passenger, who had left him with a 30-cent tip on a $10.70 fare.
diane says: it's sooooo hard to do
Host-Blu says: "All my life, I tried to be honest," said Osman Chowdhury, a native of Bangladesh. "Today is no different."
Host-Blu says: But the 41-year-old cabbie from Queens did have a message: "I'm proud of what I did so that people know New York taxi drivers are honest."
Host-Blu says: What he did started on Monday evening, when he picked up the woman at a hotel in midtown Manhattan and drove her to an apartment building several blocks away. She gave him $20 to pay the fare and asked for $9 back.
Host-Blu says: Hours later, at about 10 p.m., three other passengers with luggage discovered the woman's suitcase when Chowdhury popped the trunk open for them.
Host-Blu says: Chowdhury first drove to the building where he had dropped off the woman. But he had no idea in which of the many apartments she might be and didn't want to cause a disruption by knocking on doors.
Host-Blu says: He took the suitcase to the Manhattan headquarters of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance, a drivers' advocacy group to which he belongs. He and the alliance president looked inside and found two display cases with 31 diamond rings inside.
Host-Blu says: "I saw flashing, and I said, 'Oh my God! Diamonds!'" Chowdhury recalled. "I was shocked. I was trembling."
Host-Blu says: They also found a small luggage tag with a Texas telephone number they called -- the home of the woman's mother in Dallas. Meanwhile, she called the number, too.
Host-Blu says: The woman, who said she was a jeweler, got back the gems on Monday when she arrived at the alliance office around midnight -- incredulous at her luck. She offered Chowdhury a reward -- a check for $100.
diane says: cool
Lynn says: And he has treasure to cherish for a life time.
Host-Blu says: that is the gist of the story
Host-Blu says: LOLOL, I would have fondled those diamonds a while before returning them!
diane says: she'll prolly profit at least 100 x's that much, with all the mark up on jewelry. LOL
diane says: See how my mind works!!!
Lynn says: I wonder if he accepted the "reward"
true_eagle says: sure he did
diane says: Yeah! Should have said "Stick It"
Lynn says: its cool either way
Lynn says: I wonder if the check bounced.
diane says: LOL
true_eagle says: but ! ..... goodness is its own reward !
Lynn says: I don't want a paupers pence. I want a king's reward. LOL
ron says: :)
Lynn says: I am greedy. LOL
Host-Blu says: He took the money to make up for the lost fares he would have made during the time it took him to find the owner
diane says: i had a wallet of mine mailed to me after I left it at a thu-way rest stop! And that is only the first time it happened
Lynn says: He had bills to pay.
diane says: I've had wallets come back to me 3 times!
diane says: cash gone, but everything else ok
Host-Blu says: I think this is a fine example of the "Imprint" of the Creative Froces on this mans being
diane says: I agree
Host-Blu says: regardless of any religious beliefs he might have
Lynn says: He had an ideal.
diane says: and it imprinted itself on the matter around him
true_eagle says: in the light .. on the path... u have no choice... THE KNOWING ^I^
Host-Blu says: abosolutely
Host-Blu says: and absolutely too
Host-Blu says: ;-)
Lynn says: lol
true_eagle says: IS U IS OR IS U AINT !
Lynn says: maybe both. Most things are paradox.
diane says: you just sounded just like my dad, mike!
true_eagle says: there is no in-between with ...GOD
Lynn says: I could not have lived with myself if I kept something I found and could return.
true_eagle says: ty di
Lynn says: no choice for me
diane says: He who's neither cold nor hot...not good
diane says: He who is not with Me, is against Me
true_eagle says: none 4 me .. i am his .. he is mine ^i^
Lynn says: I, of course, am luke warm.
Lynn says: sorry, that was a lie.
diane says: Then Heat up!
Host-Blu says: I hope this material has been of help,. I know I will be thinking about it
Lynn says: I shall think of it and apply it ardently.