Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 3, 2006 21:21:14 GMT -5
Col. Churchward's Lemuria, Pt.I: 08-03-06
(02:13:44) (Blu-Host) we have alot of material to cover
(02:14:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Get prepared to have your socks knocked off! ;-)
(02:14:17) (Blu-Host) Ye Haw!
(02:14:58) (Blu-Host) Ok, need a prayer volunteer!
(02:15:07) (true_eagle) k i l do it
(02:15:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Pour it to it, Mike!
(02:15:40) (true_eagle) o hevenly father .. thank -you 4 bringing us together ....
(02:16:00) (true_eagle) blessing to all .. an peace ....
(02:16:04) (true_eagle) AMEN
(02:16:07) (Roz) Amen
(02:16:18) (Blu-Host) Amen
(02:16:22) (kazu) amen
(02:16:23) (ron) amen
(02:16:35) (diane) amen
(02:16:46) (Blu-Host) Shall we begin?
(02:16:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(02:16:54) (true_eagle) yes !
(02:16:59) (Blu-Host) Although today's chat is not based on the following book, Edgar Cayce's Story of the Soul by W. H. Church we will be drawing on it from time to time through out the topic when it is helpful. It is highly
(02:17:00) (diane) ready
(02:17:13) (Blu-Host) recommended by us as some of the most fascinating reading you will ever encounter. Mr. Church's words are so inspiring and poetic we have decided to use them as the introduction to our topic. We
(02:17:23) (Blu-Host) have not quoted the entire prologue, but almost!
(02:17:35) (Blu-Host) Edgar Cayce's Story of the Soul by W. H. Church.
(02:17:45) (Blu-Host) Prologue To A Journey
(02:17:54) (Blu-Host) "Come.
(02:18:04) (Blu-Host) We are about to embark together upon a remarkable journey. It will take us unto unmapped regions, to forgotten lands of former renown and great antiquity.
(02:18:14) (Blu-Host) Not imaginary landscapes, these, but a part of our evolutionary past. More real than any dream...
(02:18:28) (Blu-Host) There we shall encounter godlike titans, pitiful monsters and strange mutations, all long since obliterated and consigned to myth and legend, as well as other beings not too unlike ourselves.
(02:18:40) (Blu-Host) To get there, our psychic guide must carry us through the etheric portals of the akashic records, where, we are told, all memory of the mist-shrouded eons has been permanently etched on the skein of time and space.
(02:18:50) (Blu-Host) We go with a purpose, of course. We are off in search of our evolutionary roots. To find those roots, we must trace the origin, evolution, and destiny of the soul.
(02:19:01) (Blu-Host) For it is the soul, in fact, that is evolving - not matter, as is the commonly supposed, except as dictated by the soul-entity's architect and builder, mind.
(02:19:15) (Blu-Host) The journey will be full of surprises. We must learn to expect the unexpected. Like wise travelers, let us lighten our load by leaving behind us any preconceived notions or prejudices we might
(02:19:27) (Blu-Host) normally carry, and keep and open mind.
(02:19:42) (Blu-Host) It will aid us in crossing unfamiliar territory without mental or spiritual impediments. Many of our most cherished beliefs are apt to be seriously challenged along the way; and some, I suspect, will
(02:19:52) (Blu-Host) be demolished and replaced before we reach our ultimate destination.
(02:20:01) (Blu-Host) Our goal is a laudable one.
(02:20:13) (Blu-Host) Evolution, as everyone knows, is a particularly vexing subject, surrounded as it is by so much heated controversy. Not only do science and religion hold fundamentally opposing views as to our origins,
(02:20:31) (Blu-Host) but within their separate camps there are feuding factions, as well; groupings and counter groupings, all agreeing to disagree with one another for lack of a common thread of interpretation.
(02:20:37) (Blu-Host) The result is a hopeless tangle of conflicting theories and opinions. Our aim, as we travel a psychic route back in time to ancient Lemuria and Atlantis, to Eden and Og and other sunken or vastly altered landscapes and civilizations of prehistory,
(02:20:46) (Blu-Host) will be to compare our astonishing discoveries with the existing multitude and muddle of unreconciled views, in the hope of reconciling them. In short, we shall seek a single,
(02:20:57) (Blu-Host) unifying theory of evolution to replace the present proliferation - an intelligent and workable synthesis, as it were, which conforms in principle with the basic tenets of both science and religion.
(02:21:20) (Blu-Host) A big order, that. But it fits into the holistic scheme of things that was always the hallmark of our guide and mentor on this journey - Edgar Cayce."
(02:21:26) (Blu-Host) "In some 14,000 - plus psychic "readings," as they are termed, totaling more than 25 million words, Edgar Cayce has left us a legacy that has been only partially researched and explored, to date, and which promises to continue expanding mankind's self knowledge for generations to come."
(02:21:38) (Blu-Host) "like the pictures we have seen of a rumpled - looking Einstein with his violin and slippers, seeking inspiration for his scientific equations in music,
(02:21:48) (Blu-Host) I have before me a photo taken of Edgar Cayce in a rumpled jacket and an old garden hat, bent over his hoe in an equal search for inspiration as he labored over the bean patch.
(02:21:59) (Blu-Host) We must cultivate our gardens, Said Candide. And many of Cayce's waking - state visions came to him as he labored thus. For we must remember that this was not a simple man,
(02:22:09) (Blu-Host) any more than Einstein was, but a remarkably complex one, appearances to the contrary. Yet the psychic genius, like his scientific counterpart, always wore his greatness with infinite humility."
(02:22:30) (Blu-Host) "In his later years, in fact, several of his trance state discourses (given in direct response to professional inquiry) were downright mind - boggling,
(02:22:41) (Blu-Host) in their presentation of scientific data of the most advanced technical complexity, which only a scientifically trained mind could begin to grasp or interpret, and which admittedly mystified Cayce himself in his conscious state."
(02:22:51) (Blu-Host) In supporting the religious notion of a directing Intelligence, or First Cause, behind all creation and subsequent evolution, the readings are admittedly at odds with atheism, of course.
(02:23:04) (Blu-Host) But how many scientists today are avowed atheists? They are in a distinct minority, and their numbers are rapidly declining in the face of the new physics now emerging, which is restructuring our whole scientific concept of man and the universe in quasi-metaphysical terms."
(02:23:23) (Blu-Host) " Surely in Einstein's case, science and religion had merged as one, in a mystical union. He obviously shared Cayce's holistic view of things. So did another, of whom Cayce once said that he was the greatest psychic who ever lived. His name: Jesus of Nazareth."
(02:23:35) (Blu-Host) Before we begin this look at the material on The Great Migration by Vada F. Carlson allow us to present the work of Colonel James Churchward as a foundation for The Great Migration.
(02:23:45) (Blu-Host) The brilliance and the courage of this man is inspiring because he followed the truth where ever it led him. He flew in the face of the more stoic scientific community with his ground breaking discoveries.
(02:23:55) (Blu-Host) Instead of burying it in some closet of a museum, or pushing them aside as unexplainable he brought them out in the light of day and attempted to present them to the scientific community to enlighten us with our true origins. (Applause!!!!)
(02:24:04) (Blu-Host) Now ladies and Gentle men your Host, Walks In Spirit will present the text! Please let us know if you have questions.
(02:24:57) (diane) ok...will raise our hands
(02:27:09) (true_eagle) lead on .... host
(02:27:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Today, we're gonna look at a lecture given by Ms. Joan Griffith. She was Col. James Churchward's God-Daughter. This lecture was based on Col. Churchward's work. This is a great foundation for us to begin our look at Lemuria, Atlantis, and the events that surrounded those long ago places and peoples.
(02:28:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Colonel James Churchward
(02:28:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And His Lost Pacific Continent
(02:28:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) by Joan T. Griffith
(02:29:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There’s much mystery and confusion, garbled tales and misinformation about the Lost Continent of Lemuria, but even more concerning the man who spent a lifetime trying to put it in its rightful place on the map, Colonel James M. Churchward, author of the Mu books.
(02:29:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1920, the British-horn Churchward came out with his first in a series of five hooks, The Lost Continent of Mu, prefaced by an admonition to "all scientists" to please copy for future reference.
(02:30:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Important points of pre-history and anthropology he had compiled through more than 50 years of research and exploration throughout Asia and the South Sea:
(02:30:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "There was once a flourishing continent in the middle of the Pacific Ocean called Mu ... The greatest tragedy of mankind occurred when Mu sank, carrying down with her 63,000,000 people and a civilization approximately 200,000 years old.
(02:31:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This civilization was at its peak before the mountains were raised, when according to Charles Darwin, man was still closely related to the monkey ... South America at that time had an inland sea comparable to the Mediterranean today. The Incas and the Mayas of prehistoric times were the dying embers of an earlier civilization.
(02:31:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The oldest records of mankind are right here in our own country, which was one of Mu’s first colonies ... Records in Tibet over 70,000 years old, show communication with South America, as well as with China. Egypt, India and Africa ...
(02:32:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Man did not "evolve" after the Glacial Period because there was no Ice Age. When Mu sank and the mountains were raised, man degenerated into the savagery out of which our own civilization emerged."
(02:32:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before the shock waves had settled, the Colonel followed quickly with his companion editions, The Children of Mu (1931), The Sacred Symbols of Mu (1933), and Cosmic Forces of Mu in two parts, 1934-35.
(02:33:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He had prepared notes for this next volume, Books of the Golden Age, published in 1997, and had started work on Traces of Mu in America.
(02:33:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Whether Churchward intended to prime the pump for mega-controversy, or whether he simply conveyed his findings, oblivious to any repercussion-factor, didn’t matter. Although he amassed an instantaneous cult-following among his leadership, he also managed to tick off members of the conservative scientific community, religious leaders, and literary critics with his emphatic claims.
(02:34:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Seventy-five years later, it seems odd that such a furor arose: after all, in 1924. only two years prior to the Colonel’s first work, John MacMillan Brown, a retired professor at Canterbury University College, introduced his Riddle of the Pacific, claiming there was once a continent in the Pacific, now submerged save for island groups, on which megalithic ruins still existed.
(02:34:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) His forty years of exploration in the area, as well as research into ancient records (lie once saw part of an old map showing a sunken continent, he stated) made his tale convincing. So there was more to support Lemuria’s existence than just the material from Occultists Rudolf Steiner, Madame Helena Blavatsky, and Scott-Elliot.
(02:35:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The names Lemuria and Mu have been used interchangeably for the lost continent, although Churchward calls it Mu exclusively. The etymology is confusing at best: Lemuria allegedly received its name first though English naturalist Philip Lutley Schlater who dubbed it that in 1870 to designate the land-route lemurs used to spread from Madagascar to New Guinea, in his Geography of Mammals (London, 1889).
(02:36:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) German biologist Ernst Heinrich Haeckel popularized the theory also in his 1876 History of Creation. This leaves the obvious question, what then was its name for the hundred thousand years or more that it was said to have existed’?
(02:36:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Or, the period up to 1876, even’? And where did the lemur get its name? A more likely scenario is that the name derived from ancient Romans’ use of the word "Lentures" to describe spirits of their dead ancestors.
(02:37:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The fact that Mu is a diminutive of Lemuria seems more than coincidental. Psychic Edgar Cayce, in his trance readings on Lemuria in the 1930s, refers to it as "Muri, or Lemuria," as well as "La-Mu," "Mu" and "Zu."
(02:37:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It is called "Ra-Mu" in the Lhasa Records, 4.000-year-old Tibetan texts written in Chaldean, discovered by Paul Schliemann (grandson of Heinrich, who unearthed Troy) in a Buddhist temple. One of the Mayan codices that survived the Spanish conquest, The Troano manuscript (now in the British Museum), describes the destruction of Mu "8060 years before the writing of this book" - which is approximated at 5,000 years old.
(02:38:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From these clues we might deduct that possibly La-Mu-Ra was the original name, after one of the destructions which divided the land into islands, the shorter names were given to those groups which may represent today’s:
(02:38:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Polynesia
(02:38:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Micronesia
(02:38:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Melanesia
(02:38:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Zealand
(02:38:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Indonesia
(02:39:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the land in the Indian Ocean west of Sri Lanka
(02:39:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the original Ceylon
(02:39:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The lemurs undoubtedly derived their name from these old roots, returning the favor to their old homeland, via Sell later and Haeckel!
(02:39:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The problem of Lemuria has long taken a back seat to the more popular Atlantis ’legend,’ being of even more ancient vintage, but there is considerably more identifiable evidence for its existence in the Pacific, with its hundreds of megalithic ruins on land and in shallow water, obviously pre-Polynesian, that defy explanation of their origin.
(02:40:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Atlantis jealously retains its secrets thousands of feet down, under water, slime, and perhaps the sea bottom itself. But with recent geological events, suddenly what might have happened to Lemuria (and Atlantis) have become relevant to earth’s future.
(02:41:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And Churchward’s research, his explorations and theories, are being given a new look in the light of new technological advances, and an ability to access many ancient, esoteric records through the Internet. Many of his findings, once ridiculed, have been proven and cross-proven; notch data is still being debated.
(02:41:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward stated that the Cascade volcanic mountain chain was "quiescent, dormant, but not extinct." The chain contains:
(02:42:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mt. St. Helens (blew apart in May, 1980)
(02:42:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mt. Adams
(02:42:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Shasta
(02:42:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Rainier
(02:42:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Baker
(02:42:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lassen
(02:42:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Hood
(02:42:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Jefferson
(02:42:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Three Sisters
(02:42:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many of these belch steam and rocks from time to time: Shasta experienced a 3.0 quake on Nov. 6. 2001, a rare event. Helens had just suffered over 100 tiny tremors; Sisters shows activity currently with an increasing bulge. Are these harbingers of future violence?
(02:43:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This chain, he contends, is connected to three Mexican volcanoes by a gas-belt system far beneath the earth’s surface (12 to 18 miles), and when a block develops along the belt, earthquakes result if the block is not blown off by volcanic eruption along the he It-line.
(02:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward, before the discovery of tectonic plates which divide up the earth, contended that these gas-belts circumtraverse the globe, with chambers that underwent coil apse at certain times in prehistory, causing subsidence and submersion of lands.
(02:44:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is what, lie stated, caused the sinking of Mu, and why it occurred so swiftly; lie quoted the Troano manuscript, which described the "loss of 64,000.000 souls."
(02:44:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Linking earthquake and volcanic activity by a common denominator -- gas-belt lines connecting two areas - may seem a stretch, but Churchward cites examples:
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • In 1751, quakes occurred at Juan Fernandez Island, Concepcion and Chiloe Island, 340 miles to the south, all together
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Two volcanoes back of Chiloe erupted: Concorado and Uanteies
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • In 1752. this phenomenon was repeated
(02:45:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • On the same front page of a New York paper that headlined the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, ran a small item at the bottom about Mt. Etna erupting with massive lava flow
(02:45:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Other Etna eruptions have occurred simultaneously with a 6.8 quake in New Hebrides (1976) and an 8.0 jolter in Indonesia (1979) - both are points, as Etna is, on the S. Great Central Belt
(02:46:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edgar Cayce connects the two geological events in a predicted warning made 60 years ago:
(02:46:05) (diane) i'll be darned
(02:46:16) (Lynn) cancel
(02:46:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "If there are the greater activities in the Vesuvius, or Pelee, then the southern coast of California, and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, may expect, within the three months following same, an inundation by the earthquakes" (Reading #270-35).
(02:46:24) (diane) haha
(02:46:27) (Blu-Host) lol
(02:46:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mt. Pele, a volcano on the Caribbean island of Martinique, is "the most dangerous spot in the world," avers Churchward, in his Cosmic Forces book, marking the reap with a Maltese cross.
(02:47:00) (diane) goodness
(02:47:18) (Lynn) agree
(02:47:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "It’s on the active Great Central Belt, and at this area it runs only a few miles below the earth’s surface: it’s mentioned in the Troano MS, having submerged lands long ago."
(02:47:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many modern-day geologists are warming to the gas-belt idea (excuse the pun). Arthur Holmes from University of Durham. England proposes a theory of convection within the earth’s interior: an Irish scientist, John Joly enlisted convection from radioactive decay as fundamental to mountain-building, back in 1925, with his Surface History of the Earth.
(02:48:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In the 1930s Dutch geophysicist Felix Vening Meinesz advocated thermal convection as a process operating within the earth’s interior, basing his concept on the gravity anomalies he found over the ocean trenches and island areas in the W. Pacific.
(02:48:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Three decades ago, W. Jason Morgan of Princeton presented his Plume theory, whereby 20 stationary hot-spots exist beneath the moving lithosphere, originating from convection at the mantle-core boundary and resulting in volcanoes, steam vents and springs.
(02:49:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1972 Peter Vogt of the U. of So. California enlarged upon this, speculating that plume discharge runs in cycles, corresponding with increased volcanic activity which in turn hurls volcanic dust particles into the upper atmosphere, changing the climate and affecting the amount of solar radiation we receive, causing magnetic field variations, movement in the lithospheric plates and subsequent earthquakes.
(02:49:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Discoveries of non-biological methane gas were made in 1981 by the research ship Melville in water samples collected above a crest of the East Pacific Rise, suggesting that the gas is released when major earthquakes open "escape channels" to the surface.
(02:50:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This fits in with the claim of Cornell’s Dr. Thomas Gold, that methane gas deposits lie deep in the earth, in huge chambers. His articles have appeared in Nature, Scientific American, Science Digest, and OMNI.
(02:50:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gold further contends that when some of this methane is pressurized, or trapped tinder rock, it converts into oil. He is in direct opposition to oil professionals, who hold the belief that oil comes from decayed living matter like prehistoric flora and fauna, now in alleged "scarcity." (Gold allows for some biologicals seeping into the methane.)
(02:51:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1991, a discovery was made of a massive coal deposit in Victoria’s Latrobe Valley, underlain by white kaolin clay - hardly an indication of swamp origin! (Victoria’s Secret indeed!) In this new millennium, it is of vital importance to ascertain the truth of oil’s origin, so that hostile countries are not depended upon for its supply.
(02:52:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) What vested interests could be lurking in clinging to the old false story of limited resources’? Who benefits from this?
(02:52:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Strangely, James Churchward’s main claim to fame was not publication of the MIL books, but his inspired invention of NCV Steel, the patent wars surrounding it, and its manufacture for use by the USA and Allies in WWI.
(02:53:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As oil conglomerates rule the financial world in 2002, the "steel juggernaut" as Churchward called it, was all-powerful in 1907, when the Colonel first patented his "perfect alloy," termed impenetrable by metallurgists who had been trying to achieve the wonder formula for years, without success.
(02:54:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Percy Tate Griffith, his patent attorney and lifelong friend (and father of this writer) eventually won $275,000 for the Colonel in a patent infringement case against Carnegie Steel (1910) and a million dollars in a judgment against Bethlehem in 1915, though this latter was reversed by Supreme Court decision (U.S. Letters Patents #845.756 - March 1907; #868,327 - Oct. 1907; #884,009 - April 1908).
(02:54:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps Griffith (herein referred to as "P.T."), having known Churchward since childhood, was the only person who really knew this genius author, inventor, artist, engineer, geologist, expert angler, psychic, and 33rd degree Mason. So in 1937, after Churchward’s death, P.T. wrote a 62,000 word biography, "My Friend Churchey and his Sunken Continent of Mu."
(02:55:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) James M. Churchward, born in Devon, England in February 185 1, arrived on the Brooklyn scene by 1880, becoming a kind of foster father to P.T. (l 870-1950) and close friend of his widowed mother.
(02:55:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Early Churchward history remains foggy, with no records available about his schooling (ostensibly at Sandhurst & Oxford) or his military career, allegedly in the British Army as a Colonel of Engineers, and as Colonel of a regiment of Lancers stationed in India. P.T. treasured his photo of the Colonel in full uniform, but his commission may have been brief.
(02:56:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He married in India at age 20 and had a son, Alexander, in 1872. He was in charge of a tea plantation for some years, and while in India, befriended a Rishi at a temple school monastery
(02:56:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (possibly Hemis), learning about Mu ("The Motherland") from countless Naacal tablets of clay, written in Naga, allegedly around the time of the last destruction of Mu 12,000 to 14,000 years ago.
(02:57:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There were, according to ancient texts, 10,000 tablets, 8" x 10", half of which were transported from Mu to the Uighur Library; as of 1927 the Khanassa temple monastery had 8,000 or 9,000 of them, the rest spread among six other temples, including Katsupari Monastery and the Temple of the Great Tau Cross in the Tibet/China region; some Naacal "scriptures" were rumored to be at Kurdestan in 1957.
(02:58:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Naacal" means "Holy Mother" which implies Motherland Mu.
(02:58:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) At P.T.’s family townhouse in 1885, James met Augustus Le Plongeon and his bride Alice, just back from 12 years exploring the Yucatan. During the 1870s, James had traveled to Ponape, New Zealand and the South Seas with his cousin, William Churchward (British Consul to Samoa),
(02:58:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) and had joined an expedition to Llakoff Island and Eastern Asia (discussed in the second Cosmic Forces book). Now he was impressed with tales of Central America and Mexico having been peopled by émigrés from a sinking Atlantis, as Le Plongeon insisted.
(02:59:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) James argued that there was more evidence for an exodus from Mu west to the Americas. Evidence shows they were both right: Cayce Readings (derived from accessing Akashic Records) cover both civilizations.
(02:14:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Get prepared to have your socks knocked off! ;-)
(02:14:17) (Blu-Host) Ye Haw!
(02:14:58) (Blu-Host) Ok, need a prayer volunteer!
(02:15:07) (true_eagle) k i l do it
(02:15:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Pour it to it, Mike!
(02:15:40) (true_eagle) o hevenly father .. thank -you 4 bringing us together ....
(02:16:00) (true_eagle) blessing to all .. an peace ....
(02:16:04) (true_eagle) AMEN
(02:16:07) (Roz) Amen
(02:16:18) (Blu-Host) Amen
(02:16:22) (kazu) amen
(02:16:23) (ron) amen
(02:16:35) (diane) amen
(02:16:46) (Blu-Host) Shall we begin?
(02:16:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(02:16:54) (true_eagle) yes !
(02:16:59) (Blu-Host) Although today's chat is not based on the following book, Edgar Cayce's Story of the Soul by W. H. Church we will be drawing on it from time to time through out the topic when it is helpful. It is highly
(02:17:00) (diane) ready
(02:17:13) (Blu-Host) recommended by us as some of the most fascinating reading you will ever encounter. Mr. Church's words are so inspiring and poetic we have decided to use them as the introduction to our topic. We
(02:17:23) (Blu-Host) have not quoted the entire prologue, but almost!
(02:17:35) (Blu-Host) Edgar Cayce's Story of the Soul by W. H. Church.
(02:17:45) (Blu-Host) Prologue To A Journey
(02:17:54) (Blu-Host) "Come.
(02:18:04) (Blu-Host) We are about to embark together upon a remarkable journey. It will take us unto unmapped regions, to forgotten lands of former renown and great antiquity.
(02:18:14) (Blu-Host) Not imaginary landscapes, these, but a part of our evolutionary past. More real than any dream...
(02:18:28) (Blu-Host) There we shall encounter godlike titans, pitiful monsters and strange mutations, all long since obliterated and consigned to myth and legend, as well as other beings not too unlike ourselves.
(02:18:40) (Blu-Host) To get there, our psychic guide must carry us through the etheric portals of the akashic records, where, we are told, all memory of the mist-shrouded eons has been permanently etched on the skein of time and space.
(02:18:50) (Blu-Host) We go with a purpose, of course. We are off in search of our evolutionary roots. To find those roots, we must trace the origin, evolution, and destiny of the soul.
(02:19:01) (Blu-Host) For it is the soul, in fact, that is evolving - not matter, as is the commonly supposed, except as dictated by the soul-entity's architect and builder, mind.
(02:19:15) (Blu-Host) The journey will be full of surprises. We must learn to expect the unexpected. Like wise travelers, let us lighten our load by leaving behind us any preconceived notions or prejudices we might
(02:19:27) (Blu-Host) normally carry, and keep and open mind.
(02:19:42) (Blu-Host) It will aid us in crossing unfamiliar territory without mental or spiritual impediments. Many of our most cherished beliefs are apt to be seriously challenged along the way; and some, I suspect, will
(02:19:52) (Blu-Host) be demolished and replaced before we reach our ultimate destination.
(02:20:01) (Blu-Host) Our goal is a laudable one.
(02:20:13) (Blu-Host) Evolution, as everyone knows, is a particularly vexing subject, surrounded as it is by so much heated controversy. Not only do science and religion hold fundamentally opposing views as to our origins,
(02:20:31) (Blu-Host) but within their separate camps there are feuding factions, as well; groupings and counter groupings, all agreeing to disagree with one another for lack of a common thread of interpretation.
(02:20:37) (Blu-Host) The result is a hopeless tangle of conflicting theories and opinions. Our aim, as we travel a psychic route back in time to ancient Lemuria and Atlantis, to Eden and Og and other sunken or vastly altered landscapes and civilizations of prehistory,
(02:20:46) (Blu-Host) will be to compare our astonishing discoveries with the existing multitude and muddle of unreconciled views, in the hope of reconciling them. In short, we shall seek a single,
(02:20:57) (Blu-Host) unifying theory of evolution to replace the present proliferation - an intelligent and workable synthesis, as it were, which conforms in principle with the basic tenets of both science and religion.
(02:21:20) (Blu-Host) A big order, that. But it fits into the holistic scheme of things that was always the hallmark of our guide and mentor on this journey - Edgar Cayce."
(02:21:26) (Blu-Host) "In some 14,000 - plus psychic "readings," as they are termed, totaling more than 25 million words, Edgar Cayce has left us a legacy that has been only partially researched and explored, to date, and which promises to continue expanding mankind's self knowledge for generations to come."
(02:21:38) (Blu-Host) "like the pictures we have seen of a rumpled - looking Einstein with his violin and slippers, seeking inspiration for his scientific equations in music,
(02:21:48) (Blu-Host) I have before me a photo taken of Edgar Cayce in a rumpled jacket and an old garden hat, bent over his hoe in an equal search for inspiration as he labored over the bean patch.
(02:21:59) (Blu-Host) We must cultivate our gardens, Said Candide. And many of Cayce's waking - state visions came to him as he labored thus. For we must remember that this was not a simple man,
(02:22:09) (Blu-Host) any more than Einstein was, but a remarkably complex one, appearances to the contrary. Yet the psychic genius, like his scientific counterpart, always wore his greatness with infinite humility."
(02:22:30) (Blu-Host) "In his later years, in fact, several of his trance state discourses (given in direct response to professional inquiry) were downright mind - boggling,
(02:22:41) (Blu-Host) in their presentation of scientific data of the most advanced technical complexity, which only a scientifically trained mind could begin to grasp or interpret, and which admittedly mystified Cayce himself in his conscious state."
(02:22:51) (Blu-Host) In supporting the religious notion of a directing Intelligence, or First Cause, behind all creation and subsequent evolution, the readings are admittedly at odds with atheism, of course.
(02:23:04) (Blu-Host) But how many scientists today are avowed atheists? They are in a distinct minority, and their numbers are rapidly declining in the face of the new physics now emerging, which is restructuring our whole scientific concept of man and the universe in quasi-metaphysical terms."
(02:23:23) (Blu-Host) " Surely in Einstein's case, science and religion had merged as one, in a mystical union. He obviously shared Cayce's holistic view of things. So did another, of whom Cayce once said that he was the greatest psychic who ever lived. His name: Jesus of Nazareth."
(02:23:35) (Blu-Host) Before we begin this look at the material on The Great Migration by Vada F. Carlson allow us to present the work of Colonel James Churchward as a foundation for The Great Migration.
(02:23:45) (Blu-Host) The brilliance and the courage of this man is inspiring because he followed the truth where ever it led him. He flew in the face of the more stoic scientific community with his ground breaking discoveries.
(02:23:55) (Blu-Host) Instead of burying it in some closet of a museum, or pushing them aside as unexplainable he brought them out in the light of day and attempted to present them to the scientific community to enlighten us with our true origins. (Applause!!!!)
(02:24:04) (Blu-Host) Now ladies and Gentle men your Host, Walks In Spirit will present the text! Please let us know if you have questions.
(02:24:57) (diane) ok...will raise our hands
(02:27:09) (true_eagle) lead on .... host
(02:27:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Today, we're gonna look at a lecture given by Ms. Joan Griffith. She was Col. James Churchward's God-Daughter. This lecture was based on Col. Churchward's work. This is a great foundation for us to begin our look at Lemuria, Atlantis, and the events that surrounded those long ago places and peoples.
(02:28:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Colonel James Churchward
(02:28:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And His Lost Pacific Continent
(02:28:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) by Joan T. Griffith
(02:29:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There’s much mystery and confusion, garbled tales and misinformation about the Lost Continent of Lemuria, but even more concerning the man who spent a lifetime trying to put it in its rightful place on the map, Colonel James M. Churchward, author of the Mu books.
(02:29:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1920, the British-horn Churchward came out with his first in a series of five hooks, The Lost Continent of Mu, prefaced by an admonition to "all scientists" to please copy for future reference.
(02:30:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Important points of pre-history and anthropology he had compiled through more than 50 years of research and exploration throughout Asia and the South Sea:
(02:30:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "There was once a flourishing continent in the middle of the Pacific Ocean called Mu ... The greatest tragedy of mankind occurred when Mu sank, carrying down with her 63,000,000 people and a civilization approximately 200,000 years old.
(02:31:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This civilization was at its peak before the mountains were raised, when according to Charles Darwin, man was still closely related to the monkey ... South America at that time had an inland sea comparable to the Mediterranean today. The Incas and the Mayas of prehistoric times were the dying embers of an earlier civilization.
(02:31:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The oldest records of mankind are right here in our own country, which was one of Mu’s first colonies ... Records in Tibet over 70,000 years old, show communication with South America, as well as with China. Egypt, India and Africa ...
(02:32:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Man did not "evolve" after the Glacial Period because there was no Ice Age. When Mu sank and the mountains were raised, man degenerated into the savagery out of which our own civilization emerged."
(02:32:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before the shock waves had settled, the Colonel followed quickly with his companion editions, The Children of Mu (1931), The Sacred Symbols of Mu (1933), and Cosmic Forces of Mu in two parts, 1934-35.
(02:33:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He had prepared notes for this next volume, Books of the Golden Age, published in 1997, and had started work on Traces of Mu in America.
(02:33:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Whether Churchward intended to prime the pump for mega-controversy, or whether he simply conveyed his findings, oblivious to any repercussion-factor, didn’t matter. Although he amassed an instantaneous cult-following among his leadership, he also managed to tick off members of the conservative scientific community, religious leaders, and literary critics with his emphatic claims.
(02:34:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Seventy-five years later, it seems odd that such a furor arose: after all, in 1924. only two years prior to the Colonel’s first work, John MacMillan Brown, a retired professor at Canterbury University College, introduced his Riddle of the Pacific, claiming there was once a continent in the Pacific, now submerged save for island groups, on which megalithic ruins still existed.
(02:34:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) His forty years of exploration in the area, as well as research into ancient records (lie once saw part of an old map showing a sunken continent, he stated) made his tale convincing. So there was more to support Lemuria’s existence than just the material from Occultists Rudolf Steiner, Madame Helena Blavatsky, and Scott-Elliot.
(02:35:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The names Lemuria and Mu have been used interchangeably for the lost continent, although Churchward calls it Mu exclusively. The etymology is confusing at best: Lemuria allegedly received its name first though English naturalist Philip Lutley Schlater who dubbed it that in 1870 to designate the land-route lemurs used to spread from Madagascar to New Guinea, in his Geography of Mammals (London, 1889).
(02:36:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) German biologist Ernst Heinrich Haeckel popularized the theory also in his 1876 History of Creation. This leaves the obvious question, what then was its name for the hundred thousand years or more that it was said to have existed’?
(02:36:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Or, the period up to 1876, even’? And where did the lemur get its name? A more likely scenario is that the name derived from ancient Romans’ use of the word "Lentures" to describe spirits of their dead ancestors.
(02:37:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The fact that Mu is a diminutive of Lemuria seems more than coincidental. Psychic Edgar Cayce, in his trance readings on Lemuria in the 1930s, refers to it as "Muri, or Lemuria," as well as "La-Mu," "Mu" and "Zu."
(02:37:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It is called "Ra-Mu" in the Lhasa Records, 4.000-year-old Tibetan texts written in Chaldean, discovered by Paul Schliemann (grandson of Heinrich, who unearthed Troy) in a Buddhist temple. One of the Mayan codices that survived the Spanish conquest, The Troano manuscript (now in the British Museum), describes the destruction of Mu "8060 years before the writing of this book" - which is approximated at 5,000 years old.
(02:38:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From these clues we might deduct that possibly La-Mu-Ra was the original name, after one of the destructions which divided the land into islands, the shorter names were given to those groups which may represent today’s:
(02:38:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Polynesia
(02:38:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Micronesia
(02:38:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Melanesia
(02:38:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • New Zealand
(02:38:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Indonesia
(02:39:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the land in the Indian Ocean west of Sri Lanka
(02:39:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • the original Ceylon
(02:39:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The lemurs undoubtedly derived their name from these old roots, returning the favor to their old homeland, via Sell later and Haeckel!
(02:39:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The problem of Lemuria has long taken a back seat to the more popular Atlantis ’legend,’ being of even more ancient vintage, but there is considerably more identifiable evidence for its existence in the Pacific, with its hundreds of megalithic ruins on land and in shallow water, obviously pre-Polynesian, that defy explanation of their origin.
(02:40:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Atlantis jealously retains its secrets thousands of feet down, under water, slime, and perhaps the sea bottom itself. But with recent geological events, suddenly what might have happened to Lemuria (and Atlantis) have become relevant to earth’s future.
(02:41:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And Churchward’s research, his explorations and theories, are being given a new look in the light of new technological advances, and an ability to access many ancient, esoteric records through the Internet. Many of his findings, once ridiculed, have been proven and cross-proven; notch data is still being debated.
(02:41:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward stated that the Cascade volcanic mountain chain was "quiescent, dormant, but not extinct." The chain contains:
(02:42:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mt. St. Helens (blew apart in May, 1980)
(02:42:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Mt. Adams
(02:42:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Shasta
(02:42:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Rainier
(02:42:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Baker
(02:42:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Lassen
(02:42:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Hood
(02:42:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Jefferson
(02:42:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Three Sisters
(02:42:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many of these belch steam and rocks from time to time: Shasta experienced a 3.0 quake on Nov. 6. 2001, a rare event. Helens had just suffered over 100 tiny tremors; Sisters shows activity currently with an increasing bulge. Are these harbingers of future violence?
(02:43:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This chain, he contends, is connected to three Mexican volcanoes by a gas-belt system far beneath the earth’s surface (12 to 18 miles), and when a block develops along the belt, earthquakes result if the block is not blown off by volcanic eruption along the he It-line.
(02:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Churchward, before the discovery of tectonic plates which divide up the earth, contended that these gas-belts circumtraverse the globe, with chambers that underwent coil apse at certain times in prehistory, causing subsidence and submersion of lands.
(02:44:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is what, lie stated, caused the sinking of Mu, and why it occurred so swiftly; lie quoted the Troano manuscript, which described the "loss of 64,000.000 souls."
(02:44:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Linking earthquake and volcanic activity by a common denominator -- gas-belt lines connecting two areas - may seem a stretch, but Churchward cites examples:
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • In 1751, quakes occurred at Juan Fernandez Island, Concepcion and Chiloe Island, 340 miles to the south, all together
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Two volcanoes back of Chiloe erupted: Concorado and Uanteies
(02:45:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • In 1752. this phenomenon was repeated
(02:45:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • On the same front page of a New York paper that headlined the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, ran a small item at the bottom about Mt. Etna erupting with massive lava flow
(02:45:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) • Other Etna eruptions have occurred simultaneously with a 6.8 quake in New Hebrides (1976) and an 8.0 jolter in Indonesia (1979) - both are points, as Etna is, on the S. Great Central Belt
(02:46:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edgar Cayce connects the two geological events in a predicted warning made 60 years ago:
(02:46:05) (diane) i'll be darned
(02:46:16) (Lynn) cancel
(02:46:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "If there are the greater activities in the Vesuvius, or Pelee, then the southern coast of California, and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, may expect, within the three months following same, an inundation by the earthquakes" (Reading #270-35).
(02:46:24) (diane) haha
(02:46:27) (Blu-Host) lol
(02:46:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Mt. Pele, a volcano on the Caribbean island of Martinique, is "the most dangerous spot in the world," avers Churchward, in his Cosmic Forces book, marking the reap with a Maltese cross.
(02:47:00) (diane) goodness
(02:47:18) (Lynn) agree
(02:47:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "It’s on the active Great Central Belt, and at this area it runs only a few miles below the earth’s surface: it’s mentioned in the Troano MS, having submerged lands long ago."
(02:47:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many modern-day geologists are warming to the gas-belt idea (excuse the pun). Arthur Holmes from University of Durham. England proposes a theory of convection within the earth’s interior: an Irish scientist, John Joly enlisted convection from radioactive decay as fundamental to mountain-building, back in 1925, with his Surface History of the Earth.
(02:48:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In the 1930s Dutch geophysicist Felix Vening Meinesz advocated thermal convection as a process operating within the earth’s interior, basing his concept on the gravity anomalies he found over the ocean trenches and island areas in the W. Pacific.
(02:48:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Three decades ago, W. Jason Morgan of Princeton presented his Plume theory, whereby 20 stationary hot-spots exist beneath the moving lithosphere, originating from convection at the mantle-core boundary and resulting in volcanoes, steam vents and springs.
(02:49:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1972 Peter Vogt of the U. of So. California enlarged upon this, speculating that plume discharge runs in cycles, corresponding with increased volcanic activity which in turn hurls volcanic dust particles into the upper atmosphere, changing the climate and affecting the amount of solar radiation we receive, causing magnetic field variations, movement in the lithospheric plates and subsequent earthquakes.
(02:49:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Discoveries of non-biological methane gas were made in 1981 by the research ship Melville in water samples collected above a crest of the East Pacific Rise, suggesting that the gas is released when major earthquakes open "escape channels" to the surface.
(02:50:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This fits in with the claim of Cornell’s Dr. Thomas Gold, that methane gas deposits lie deep in the earth, in huge chambers. His articles have appeared in Nature, Scientific American, Science Digest, and OMNI.
(02:50:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Gold further contends that when some of this methane is pressurized, or trapped tinder rock, it converts into oil. He is in direct opposition to oil professionals, who hold the belief that oil comes from decayed living matter like prehistoric flora and fauna, now in alleged "scarcity." (Gold allows for some biologicals seeping into the methane.)
(02:51:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In 1991, a discovery was made of a massive coal deposit in Victoria’s Latrobe Valley, underlain by white kaolin clay - hardly an indication of swamp origin! (Victoria’s Secret indeed!) In this new millennium, it is of vital importance to ascertain the truth of oil’s origin, so that hostile countries are not depended upon for its supply.
(02:52:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) What vested interests could be lurking in clinging to the old false story of limited resources’? Who benefits from this?
(02:52:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Strangely, James Churchward’s main claim to fame was not publication of the MIL books, but his inspired invention of NCV Steel, the patent wars surrounding it, and its manufacture for use by the USA and Allies in WWI.
(02:53:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As oil conglomerates rule the financial world in 2002, the "steel juggernaut" as Churchward called it, was all-powerful in 1907, when the Colonel first patented his "perfect alloy," termed impenetrable by metallurgists who had been trying to achieve the wonder formula for years, without success.
(02:54:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Percy Tate Griffith, his patent attorney and lifelong friend (and father of this writer) eventually won $275,000 for the Colonel in a patent infringement case against Carnegie Steel (1910) and a million dollars in a judgment against Bethlehem in 1915, though this latter was reversed by Supreme Court decision (U.S. Letters Patents #845.756 - March 1907; #868,327 - Oct. 1907; #884,009 - April 1908).
(02:54:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps Griffith (herein referred to as "P.T."), having known Churchward since childhood, was the only person who really knew this genius author, inventor, artist, engineer, geologist, expert angler, psychic, and 33rd degree Mason. So in 1937, after Churchward’s death, P.T. wrote a 62,000 word biography, "My Friend Churchey and his Sunken Continent of Mu."
(02:55:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) James M. Churchward, born in Devon, England in February 185 1, arrived on the Brooklyn scene by 1880, becoming a kind of foster father to P.T. (l 870-1950) and close friend of his widowed mother.
(02:55:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Early Churchward history remains foggy, with no records available about his schooling (ostensibly at Sandhurst & Oxford) or his military career, allegedly in the British Army as a Colonel of Engineers, and as Colonel of a regiment of Lancers stationed in India. P.T. treasured his photo of the Colonel in full uniform, but his commission may have been brief.
(02:56:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He married in India at age 20 and had a son, Alexander, in 1872. He was in charge of a tea plantation for some years, and while in India, befriended a Rishi at a temple school monastery
(02:56:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (possibly Hemis), learning about Mu ("The Motherland") from countless Naacal tablets of clay, written in Naga, allegedly around the time of the last destruction of Mu 12,000 to 14,000 years ago.
(02:57:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There were, according to ancient texts, 10,000 tablets, 8" x 10", half of which were transported from Mu to the Uighur Library; as of 1927 the Khanassa temple monastery had 8,000 or 9,000 of them, the rest spread among six other temples, including Katsupari Monastery and the Temple of the Great Tau Cross in the Tibet/China region; some Naacal "scriptures" were rumored to be at Kurdestan in 1957.
(02:58:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Naacal" means "Holy Mother" which implies Motherland Mu.
(02:58:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) At P.T.’s family townhouse in 1885, James met Augustus Le Plongeon and his bride Alice, just back from 12 years exploring the Yucatan. During the 1870s, James had traveled to Ponape, New Zealand and the South Seas with his cousin, William Churchward (British Consul to Samoa),
(02:58:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) and had joined an expedition to Llakoff Island and Eastern Asia (discussed in the second Cosmic Forces book). Now he was impressed with tales of Central America and Mexico having been peopled by émigrés from a sinking Atlantis, as Le Plongeon insisted.
(02:59:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) James argued that there was more evidence for an exodus from Mu west to the Americas. Evidence shows they were both right: Cayce Readings (derived from accessing Akashic Records) cover both civilizations.
