Post by WalksInSpirit on Jun 15, 2006 19:01:58 GMT -5
Thursday Afternoon Chat: 06-15-06
Music As The Bridge: Lesson Five: "Thy Servant Heareth"
(02:03:40) (Host-Blu) I am excited about todays chat!
(02:03:49) (Host-Blu) This book is fascinating!
(02:04:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I like it cause it deals with more than just music. But, then, music is more than just music, ennit?
(02:04:22) (ron) yes
(02:08:16) (Host-Blu) When we are finished on this series of the music chat we are going to go into the Cayce book on Auras, because it is touched on in this music chat.
(02:08:46) (Roz) sounds real good
(02:18:45) (Host-Blu) I will go ahead and open with a prayer if you all are ready.
(02:20:17) (Host-Blu) Our Gracious Heavenly Father, Let this be our prayer...
(02:20:33) (Host-Blu) "Let my desire and my needs be in Thy hands, Thou Maker, Creator of the universe and all the forces and powers therein! And may I conform my attitude, my purpose, my desire, to that Thou hast as an activity for me.
(02:20:45) (Host-Blu) Amen
(02:20:49) (Roz) Amen and Amen
(02:20:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(02:20:52) (merlin) Amen
(02:21:00) (diane) Amen
(02:21:04) (ron) amen
(02:21:08) (Host-Blu) (Now leave it with Him and go to work!)" --462-8
(02:21:20) (Host-Blu) ;-D
(02:21:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Today, we’re continuing with the “Music As The Bridge” series. We’re on Lesson Five: “Thy Servant Heareth.”
(02:21:41) (Host-Blu) Any chat news we need to update here?
(02:22:12) (Host-Blu) Any questions about the topic so far?
(02:22:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Please don’t hesitate to stop me for comments, questions, interjections, or any type of discussion at any point during the presentation part of today’s chat!
(02:22:42) (Host-Blu) If not we will continue
(02:23:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One of the greatest influences in our society and in our individual lives is the music to which we listen. It causes a response in every level of consciousness and each atom of our being.
(02:24:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Therefore, the composer holds great power and consequently a great responsibility to the public. His compositions are dependant upon his ideal and the level of his attunement.
(02:24:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In music and art should the entity excel… Thus there should be the turning within, with the relying upon Him, who is able to supply the needs of the spiritual, the mental and material things.
(02:24:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof, the cattle on the hills, the silver and the gold, and only in Him may ye find that full, complete independence, which is necessary in the experience of the entity if it would succeed.
(02:25:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thus, apply self in the spiritual and mental things, that the material expression in the music may find that which may be as from the spheres, but let thy prayer ever be,
(02:25:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) ‘Lord, let me be the channel for supplying that in the experiences of those with whom I come in contact, and for the needs of man at this particular period; that they may know Thee better through the things which they have suffered and do suffer.
(02:25:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) May they purify their souls, that they may appear before the throne of grace in the seeking. Let me, O God, in my music, in my heart, give that which is as helpfulness to that in the lives of others.’” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5265-1
(02:26:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) How may one begin to learn this attunement? It comes by learning to listen, and as we do so, our hearing becomes more acute.
(02:26:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Here is one entity who may write… shutting itself away and attuning itself by very distant music, and especially bells…” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3653-1
(02:26:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps the singing of the birds is more easily discerned than a faraway bell, but we are then confronted with the suggestion that we listen to life rising in a tree!
(02:26:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Listen at the life rising in the tree. These serve their Maker - Through what? That psychic force, that IS Life itself, in their respective sphere - that were put for the service of man. Learn thine lesson, O Man, from that about thee!” – Edgar Cayce Reading 364-10
(02:27:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The ability to appreciate the sounds in nature is perhaps influenced by our experiences and may be the karmic result of past attention.
(02:27:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find that the entity was close to nature. Thus that innate desire to be, to know, those activities in same. Thus, as we find, the song of the bird, of the brook, of the wild life of a community, of a nature unfoldment, is as much of music as ANY that may be the experience of the entity.
(02:28:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But one brings the appreciation of the other. Yet the entity feels deep within self that the orchestral rendition of a poem or of any experience is merely as a counterpart or an imitation of the real.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2830-2
(02:28:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For there, as we find, in that sojourn, there was the communing with nature, - seeing as it were the voice of the spheres in visioning the evening sun, in the shades of night falling, in the tempering of the winds, and seeing the activities of everything in nature bespeaking that at-onement
(02:28:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) that closeness which the heart and soul seeks for its greater expression in loving kindness and gentleness to its fellow man.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1581-2
(02:29:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “As there is the music of the spheres, there is indeed the music of the growing things in nature. There is then the music of NATURE itself!
(02:29:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There is the music of the growth of the rose, of EVERY plant that bears color, of every one that opens its blossom for the edification, for the sanctification even of the environs thereabout!” – Edgar Cayce Reading 949-12
(02:30:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not only do we find this subtle music in the sounds of the earth, but in human beings as well, as illustrated by a reading given for a four-and-a-half year old child:
(02:30:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence as the music of the spheres, in the voice of nature itself, we find that expression; in the laughter of the entity, in the sound of its voice, in the look of its eye, in the movement of its body, in the patter of its feet;
(02:30:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) giving expression in a manner that brings to the minds and consciousnesses of those who seek to know God and God's ways with the children of men, a manifestation, an expression of same.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2156-2
(02:30:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not everyone who had developed musical talent in past lives we advised to pursue music as a profession, but many were told to use their talent to influence others for good.
(02:31:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Before that we find the entity was in the land now known as the Promised land, during those periods when there was much expectancy, much preparation on the part of those who were looking forward to the redeeming of the peoples from not only the bondage of the Roman rule but the misconception and misapplication of the laws of individuals or peoples who professed to be in the way of the chosen people.
(02:31:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity was among those who were the musicians in the temple where Anna and Simeon saw the consecration of the one Lord, the one Master.
(02:32:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then the entity was a harpist, or what would be called a harp today.
(02:32:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hence all manner of stringed instruments are of interest, and especially that character or nature of music that depicts the activities of individuals through those various periods in that particular activity, - or that as may be a part of the experience of individuals in the present; not only that which is of the pictorial and pastoral nature but descriptive in its nature.
(02:32:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And to encourage, and to bring into the consciousness of the young, and those of all ages whom the entity may meet and with whom the entity may have an influence, an appreciation of such, - is the greater service in which the entity may expend itself.
(02:33:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For this is the manner - MUSIC - in which distances may be spanned, in which all realms of thought may find a greater outlet of expression, and in which the heart may be raised to a comprehension of the relationships.
(02:33:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For, as is oft expressed, the angels seeing [sing], - and the music of the spheres, as in color and relationship, - this becomes the means or manner that is universal in its activity upon the minds and souls of men.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1938-2
(02:33:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit)
(02:33:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Parents whose son was only eleven months old were told that in a previous life the child had been a famous composer.
(02:34:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the musical abilities should the entity be trained from the beginning. There is the natural intent and interest towards things of the artistic nature and temperament.
(02:34:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There are the abilities to use the voice, as well as the abilities in playing most ANY instrument - if the opportunity is given; especially in the composition, in the natures of composition as well as the playing itself.
(02:34:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Symphonies, all forms of musical interludes and the like, should be the trainings to which the entity would be subjected - that it may be given the greater opportunities. And, as soon as he is capable of such, insist upon beginning with the piano - as a playing, as a means of entertaining. And the natural ear for harmony will soon be indicated in the activities of the entity.
(02:35:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before this the entity was in the Austrian or Hungarian land. There the entity was an unusual individual, in the name Liszt; being a composer as well as a musician. And as its activities through the experience were such as to make for certain characters of music, these in part will be of special interest to the entity in the present.
(02:35:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The comparison may be easily seen, to be sure, as to the faults, the failures, as well as the activities in which the entity then throughout the experience rose to its place or position in the musical world.
(02:35:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That is why, then, the nickname Franz is suggested; for the entity was Franz Liszt.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2584-1
(02:36:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Whatever the potential of an entity, the direction and encouragement by the parents is essential for the development of his talents. Parents may be comforted to realize that they are indeed capable of providing the necessary help, because the soul of the child chooses its parents before it incarnates.
(02:36:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The choice is made because the particular parents and the particular situation are best suited to the needs of the developing soul. The parents may influence the soul in its choice by their preparation before conception and during gestation.
(02:36:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Here we have rather an exceptional entity - because of preparations in the minds and hearts of the parents, especially of that entity carrying and caring for this entity through those periods of gestation.
(02:37:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An exceptional musician, especially piano. If the opportunity is given here we may have to the musical world of America what Sir Joshua Reynolds was in his field - for it is the same entity.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4098-1
(02:37:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The soul has within it an ideal or fixed purpose for incarnating which is known by the soul itself and which may be developed only through the will of the entity.
(02:38:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In giving advice and counsel, - the various phases of the experience of each may only be pointed out, and as to that which might be for the greater mental and spiritual development of each.
(02:38:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) THE CHOICES MUST BE OF THEMSELVES! For, that is the prerogative - the self-will - which has been given to man, which indicates his relationship to his Maker.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 852-16
(02:38:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Parents wishing to apply this concept may introduce the child to possible choices and should be sensitive to his inclinations. To follow gently the direction of the young child’s interests is to give the new personality the greatest opportunity for developing its latent abilities.
(02:39:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Do give the opportunity for music. Let the entity listen to and be guided by, not that character of music that is of the passing fancy but that which builds harmony, that which builds the bridge between the sublime and the finite - or from the infinite to the finite mind. Cultivate these more often in the body-mind as it unfolds. Thus we will find less and less of this tendency for headstrongness.
(02:39:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As soon as it is practical for the entity to sit close to a musical instrument, especially a piano, begin to practice on same. Let it be a part of the entity's experience for the next eighteen years to practice some time during each day.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4098-1
(02:40:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One mother asked how she could best cope with the temperament of a musically talented daughter of eleven and was told:
(02:40:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “It isn't so much cope with it as it is just meeting it. Be just as patient as you would like for thy child to be. The child will then be more patient with you also.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:40:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When the young girl asked what course of study she should pursue she was told:
(02:41:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Music! History of, the activity of, all of those various forms. If you learn music, you'll learn history. If you learn music you'll learn mathematics. If you learn music, you'll learn most all there is to learn - unless it's something bad.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:41:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That is so true, too.
(02:41:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There is a most interesting Reading which correlates the performing of music with two different faculties of the mind.
(02:41:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5754-3
(02:42:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5754-3
(02:42:45) (Host-Blu) That explains a lot to me.
(02:43:07) (Roz) yes it is
(02:43:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An understanding and an ability to relate to the spiritual faculty are ever to be sought by the musician. This is the most important area in which a parent may influence and direct a child.
(02:43:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the abilities of the entity and that to which it may attain in the present - and how: As seen - much will depend upon the influence and training - as yet little of the spiritual thought has been entertained by the entity - the basis of expression in any direction -
(02:43:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) whether development as the dancer or musician - this portion must not be left [out] in this experience - for this should ever be the basis of human expression in the earth's experience - for therein a physical manifested form ALL influences find expression.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2857-1
(02:44:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Spirit is the universal essence of all being and as the performer relates with authenticity to this common denominator, all who hear him are raised to that awareness of the inner meaning.
(02:44:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For in art, without the source of same - it is dead. In music, without the spirit of same, it is flat. In nature and the activities in the relationships of man to man, there must be carried with same a living, growing thing.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1494-1
(02:45:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Even when the performer is merely practicing, he is enjoined to maintain the same attitude and altitude of faith and poise.
(02:45:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In thy music, as ye practice even, see in each note a voice, a song, a note of praise raised to Him, who is the Giver of all good and perfect gifts, and who is hurt when such gifts are used for indulgence, for gratification, or in any respect not as glory to Him.
(02:45:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not that this is selfish, for as it glorifies Him it is ever as He gave, ‘And I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto me.’ That means woman too, it means thee, in that as ye glorify Him ye are fitted, ye are enabled to raise others also. Thus ye contribute to that sphere of activity about thee, to the glory of the Father in the Christ.
(02:46:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And He has promised to be with thee. He keeps His promise. Then, it is necessary that you keep yours - with yourself first, and those who love you, who trust you, yea even with those who hate you. Not because of them but because of Him, who is the right.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:46:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) How 'bout THAT? ;-)
(02:47:01) (Host-Blu) awesome
(02:47:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Cayce Readings place the concert artist, the teacher, and the choir director in the same position of influence and therefore of responsibility to bring happiness through their music.
(02:47:20) (merlin) right on blu
(02:47:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence music, beauty, joy, harmony, even song, should be a part of the unfoldment. Learn sorrow, learn joy; but let that expressed in "I walked in the garden with Jesus" [The hymn, IN THE GARDEN?] be as the light in thy composition of song, yea in thy melody upon the musical instrument in which ye may give voice.
(02:47:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Practice the more upon the organ. Let that be a means or way of expression, as well as upon the piano.
(02:48:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Make MUSIC - the piano, the organ, song - thy life's work; as a concert artist, as a teacher, as a director in choir or the like. These will bring to the entity the opportunities for ever being a channel of blessings, and bring peace into the soul of the entity - which brings happiness and gladnesses under every circumstance.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3234-1
(02:48:41) (Host-Blu) Is he going to fast to read this?
(02:49:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The importance of attitudes was stressed. From the stage, the mass of people which make up an audience gives an impersonal appearance, and the potential for personality, response and intimacy lies within the creative ability of the performer. The audience, like the individual, responds to the attitude exhibited by the performer.
(02:03:49) (Host-Blu) This book is fascinating!
(02:04:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I like it cause it deals with more than just music. But, then, music is more than just music, ennit?
(02:04:22) (ron) yes
(02:08:16) (Host-Blu) When we are finished on this series of the music chat we are going to go into the Cayce book on Auras, because it is touched on in this music chat.
(02:08:46) (Roz) sounds real good
(02:18:45) (Host-Blu) I will go ahead and open with a prayer if you all are ready.
(02:20:17) (Host-Blu) Our Gracious Heavenly Father, Let this be our prayer...
(02:20:33) (Host-Blu) "Let my desire and my needs be in Thy hands, Thou Maker, Creator of the universe and all the forces and powers therein! And may I conform my attitude, my purpose, my desire, to that Thou hast as an activity for me.
(02:20:45) (Host-Blu) Amen
(02:20:49) (Roz) Amen and Amen
(02:20:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(02:20:52) (merlin) Amen
(02:21:00) (diane) Amen
(02:21:04) (ron) amen
(02:21:08) (Host-Blu) (Now leave it with Him and go to work!)" --462-8
(02:21:20) (Host-Blu) ;-D
(02:21:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Today, we’re continuing with the “Music As The Bridge” series. We’re on Lesson Five: “Thy Servant Heareth.”
(02:21:41) (Host-Blu) Any chat news we need to update here?
(02:22:12) (Host-Blu) Any questions about the topic so far?
(02:22:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Please don’t hesitate to stop me for comments, questions, interjections, or any type of discussion at any point during the presentation part of today’s chat!
(02:22:42) (Host-Blu) If not we will continue
(02:23:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One of the greatest influences in our society and in our individual lives is the music to which we listen. It causes a response in every level of consciousness and each atom of our being.
(02:24:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Therefore, the composer holds great power and consequently a great responsibility to the public. His compositions are dependant upon his ideal and the level of his attunement.
(02:24:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In music and art should the entity excel… Thus there should be the turning within, with the relying upon Him, who is able to supply the needs of the spiritual, the mental and material things.
(02:24:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof, the cattle on the hills, the silver and the gold, and only in Him may ye find that full, complete independence, which is necessary in the experience of the entity if it would succeed.
(02:25:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Thus, apply self in the spiritual and mental things, that the material expression in the music may find that which may be as from the spheres, but let thy prayer ever be,
(02:25:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) ‘Lord, let me be the channel for supplying that in the experiences of those with whom I come in contact, and for the needs of man at this particular period; that they may know Thee better through the things which they have suffered and do suffer.
(02:25:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) May they purify their souls, that they may appear before the throne of grace in the seeking. Let me, O God, in my music, in my heart, give that which is as helpfulness to that in the lives of others.’” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5265-1
(02:26:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) How may one begin to learn this attunement? It comes by learning to listen, and as we do so, our hearing becomes more acute.
(02:26:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Here is one entity who may write… shutting itself away and attuning itself by very distant music, and especially bells…” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3653-1
(02:26:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps the singing of the birds is more easily discerned than a faraway bell, but we are then confronted with the suggestion that we listen to life rising in a tree!
(02:26:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Listen at the life rising in the tree. These serve their Maker - Through what? That psychic force, that IS Life itself, in their respective sphere - that were put for the service of man. Learn thine lesson, O Man, from that about thee!” – Edgar Cayce Reading 364-10
(02:27:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The ability to appreciate the sounds in nature is perhaps influenced by our experiences and may be the karmic result of past attention.
(02:27:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find that the entity was close to nature. Thus that innate desire to be, to know, those activities in same. Thus, as we find, the song of the bird, of the brook, of the wild life of a community, of a nature unfoldment, is as much of music as ANY that may be the experience of the entity.
(02:28:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But one brings the appreciation of the other. Yet the entity feels deep within self that the orchestral rendition of a poem or of any experience is merely as a counterpart or an imitation of the real.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2830-2
(02:28:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For there, as we find, in that sojourn, there was the communing with nature, - seeing as it were the voice of the spheres in visioning the evening sun, in the shades of night falling, in the tempering of the winds, and seeing the activities of everything in nature bespeaking that at-onement
(02:28:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) that closeness which the heart and soul seeks for its greater expression in loving kindness and gentleness to its fellow man.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1581-2
(02:29:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “As there is the music of the spheres, there is indeed the music of the growing things in nature. There is then the music of NATURE itself!
(02:29:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There is the music of the growth of the rose, of EVERY plant that bears color, of every one that opens its blossom for the edification, for the sanctification even of the environs thereabout!” – Edgar Cayce Reading 949-12
(02:30:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not only do we find this subtle music in the sounds of the earth, but in human beings as well, as illustrated by a reading given for a four-and-a-half year old child:
(02:30:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence as the music of the spheres, in the voice of nature itself, we find that expression; in the laughter of the entity, in the sound of its voice, in the look of its eye, in the movement of its body, in the patter of its feet;
(02:30:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) giving expression in a manner that brings to the minds and consciousnesses of those who seek to know God and God's ways with the children of men, a manifestation, an expression of same.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2156-2
(02:30:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not everyone who had developed musical talent in past lives we advised to pursue music as a profession, but many were told to use their talent to influence others for good.
(02:31:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Before that we find the entity was in the land now known as the Promised land, during those periods when there was much expectancy, much preparation on the part of those who were looking forward to the redeeming of the peoples from not only the bondage of the Roman rule but the misconception and misapplication of the laws of individuals or peoples who professed to be in the way of the chosen people.
(02:31:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity was among those who were the musicians in the temple where Anna and Simeon saw the consecration of the one Lord, the one Master.
(02:32:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then the entity was a harpist, or what would be called a harp today.
(02:32:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Hence all manner of stringed instruments are of interest, and especially that character or nature of music that depicts the activities of individuals through those various periods in that particular activity, - or that as may be a part of the experience of individuals in the present; not only that which is of the pictorial and pastoral nature but descriptive in its nature.
(02:32:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And to encourage, and to bring into the consciousness of the young, and those of all ages whom the entity may meet and with whom the entity may have an influence, an appreciation of such, - is the greater service in which the entity may expend itself.
(02:33:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For this is the manner - MUSIC - in which distances may be spanned, in which all realms of thought may find a greater outlet of expression, and in which the heart may be raised to a comprehension of the relationships.
(02:33:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For, as is oft expressed, the angels seeing [sing], - and the music of the spheres, as in color and relationship, - this becomes the means or manner that is universal in its activity upon the minds and souls of men.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1938-2
(02:33:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit)
(02:33:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Parents whose son was only eleven months old were told that in a previous life the child had been a famous composer.
(02:34:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the musical abilities should the entity be trained from the beginning. There is the natural intent and interest towards things of the artistic nature and temperament.
(02:34:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There are the abilities to use the voice, as well as the abilities in playing most ANY instrument - if the opportunity is given; especially in the composition, in the natures of composition as well as the playing itself.
(02:34:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Symphonies, all forms of musical interludes and the like, should be the trainings to which the entity would be subjected - that it may be given the greater opportunities. And, as soon as he is capable of such, insist upon beginning with the piano - as a playing, as a means of entertaining. And the natural ear for harmony will soon be indicated in the activities of the entity.
(02:35:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before this the entity was in the Austrian or Hungarian land. There the entity was an unusual individual, in the name Liszt; being a composer as well as a musician. And as its activities through the experience were such as to make for certain characters of music, these in part will be of special interest to the entity in the present.
(02:35:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The comparison may be easily seen, to be sure, as to the faults, the failures, as well as the activities in which the entity then throughout the experience rose to its place or position in the musical world.
(02:35:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That is why, then, the nickname Franz is suggested; for the entity was Franz Liszt.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2584-1
(02:36:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Whatever the potential of an entity, the direction and encouragement by the parents is essential for the development of his talents. Parents may be comforted to realize that they are indeed capable of providing the necessary help, because the soul of the child chooses its parents before it incarnates.
(02:36:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The choice is made because the particular parents and the particular situation are best suited to the needs of the developing soul. The parents may influence the soul in its choice by their preparation before conception and during gestation.
(02:36:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Here we have rather an exceptional entity - because of preparations in the minds and hearts of the parents, especially of that entity carrying and caring for this entity through those periods of gestation.
(02:37:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An exceptional musician, especially piano. If the opportunity is given here we may have to the musical world of America what Sir Joshua Reynolds was in his field - for it is the same entity.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4098-1
(02:37:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The soul has within it an ideal or fixed purpose for incarnating which is known by the soul itself and which may be developed only through the will of the entity.
(02:38:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In giving advice and counsel, - the various phases of the experience of each may only be pointed out, and as to that which might be for the greater mental and spiritual development of each.
(02:38:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) THE CHOICES MUST BE OF THEMSELVES! For, that is the prerogative - the self-will - which has been given to man, which indicates his relationship to his Maker.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 852-16
(02:38:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Parents wishing to apply this concept may introduce the child to possible choices and should be sensitive to his inclinations. To follow gently the direction of the young child’s interests is to give the new personality the greatest opportunity for developing its latent abilities.
(02:39:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Do give the opportunity for music. Let the entity listen to and be guided by, not that character of music that is of the passing fancy but that which builds harmony, that which builds the bridge between the sublime and the finite - or from the infinite to the finite mind. Cultivate these more often in the body-mind as it unfolds. Thus we will find less and less of this tendency for headstrongness.
(02:39:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As soon as it is practical for the entity to sit close to a musical instrument, especially a piano, begin to practice on same. Let it be a part of the entity's experience for the next eighteen years to practice some time during each day.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 4098-1
(02:40:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One mother asked how she could best cope with the temperament of a musically talented daughter of eleven and was told:
(02:40:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “It isn't so much cope with it as it is just meeting it. Be just as patient as you would like for thy child to be. The child will then be more patient with you also.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:40:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When the young girl asked what course of study she should pursue she was told:
(02:41:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Music! History of, the activity of, all of those various forms. If you learn music, you'll learn history. If you learn music you'll learn mathematics. If you learn music, you'll learn most all there is to learn - unless it's something bad.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:41:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That is so true, too.
(02:41:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) There is a most interesting Reading which correlates the performing of music with two different faculties of the mind.
(02:41:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The ability to read music and play is using different faculties of the same mind. Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable, dependent upon the ability of the individual to concentrate, or to centralize in their various places those functionings that are manifest of the spiritual forces in the material plane. BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5754-3
(02:42:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) BEAUTIFUL, isn't it?” – Edgar Cayce Reading 5754-3
(02:42:45) (Host-Blu) That explains a lot to me.
(02:43:07) (Roz) yes it is
(02:43:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An understanding and an ability to relate to the spiritual faculty are ever to be sought by the musician. This is the most important area in which a parent may influence and direct a child.
(02:43:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the abilities of the entity and that to which it may attain in the present - and how: As seen - much will depend upon the influence and training - as yet little of the spiritual thought has been entertained by the entity - the basis of expression in any direction -
(02:43:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) whether development as the dancer or musician - this portion must not be left [out] in this experience - for this should ever be the basis of human expression in the earth's experience - for therein a physical manifested form ALL influences find expression.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 2857-1
(02:44:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Spirit is the universal essence of all being and as the performer relates with authenticity to this common denominator, all who hear him are raised to that awareness of the inner meaning.
(02:44:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “For in art, without the source of same - it is dead. In music, without the spirit of same, it is flat. In nature and the activities in the relationships of man to man, there must be carried with same a living, growing thing.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1494-1
(02:45:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Even when the performer is merely practicing, he is enjoined to maintain the same attitude and altitude of faith and poise.
(02:45:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In thy music, as ye practice even, see in each note a voice, a song, a note of praise raised to Him, who is the Giver of all good and perfect gifts, and who is hurt when such gifts are used for indulgence, for gratification, or in any respect not as glory to Him.
(02:45:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Not that this is selfish, for as it glorifies Him it is ever as He gave, ‘And I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto me.’ That means woman too, it means thee, in that as ye glorify Him ye are fitted, ye are enabled to raise others also. Thus ye contribute to that sphere of activity about thee, to the glory of the Father in the Christ.
(02:46:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And He has promised to be with thee. He keeps His promise. Then, it is necessary that you keep yours - with yourself first, and those who love you, who trust you, yea even with those who hate you. Not because of them but because of Him, who is the right.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3053-3
(02:46:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) How 'bout THAT? ;-)
(02:47:01) (Host-Blu) awesome
(02:47:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Cayce Readings place the concert artist, the teacher, and the choir director in the same position of influence and therefore of responsibility to bring happiness through their music.
(02:47:20) (merlin) right on blu
(02:47:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence music, beauty, joy, harmony, even song, should be a part of the unfoldment. Learn sorrow, learn joy; but let that expressed in "I walked in the garden with Jesus" [The hymn, IN THE GARDEN?] be as the light in thy composition of song, yea in thy melody upon the musical instrument in which ye may give voice.
(02:47:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Practice the more upon the organ. Let that be a means or way of expression, as well as upon the piano.
(02:48:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Make MUSIC - the piano, the organ, song - thy life's work; as a concert artist, as a teacher, as a director in choir or the like. These will bring to the entity the opportunities for ever being a channel of blessings, and bring peace into the soul of the entity - which brings happiness and gladnesses under every circumstance.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3234-1
(02:48:41) (Host-Blu) Is he going to fast to read this?
(02:49:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The importance of attitudes was stressed. From the stage, the mass of people which make up an audience gives an impersonal appearance, and the potential for personality, response and intimacy lies within the creative ability of the performer. The audience, like the individual, responds to the attitude exhibited by the performer.
