"Thoughts & Matter:" 03-23-06

[WalksInSpirit]

Thursday Afternoon Chat: 03-23-06

"Thoughts And Matter"

(02:37:28) (Host-Blu) Are you all ready to start?
(02:37:36) (ron) ok
(02:37:47) (KAREN) go for it blu
(02:37:59) (Host-Blu) I would like to talk to you all about something that I did years ago, it's not a new thing. People have been doing this for a long time, but I have never really done much about this because I did not really know how to apply it.
(02:38:11) (Host-Blu) With the Edgar Cayce readings as a foundation I see now that this concept I want to discuss with you has a valid place and application. It all boils down to the idea that "thoughts are things," a very fundamental concept in the Cayce material.
(02:39:07) (Host-Blu) The idea behind this material is to show you that no mater the conditions you find yourself in you are able to have all that you need. How you apply it is up to you.
(02:40:13) (Host-Blu) Over 20 years ago I was in a meditation group that was heavily influenced by Cayce, however there were other types of people in the group as well.
(02:40:48) (Host-Blu) Now let me ask, have you ever heard of putting holes in clouds or or done this type of thing?
(02:41:04) (ron) yes, something like that
(02:41:16) (Host-Blu) Have you actually done it Ron?
(02:41:29) (KAREN) definitely , i have done it .
(02:41:36) (Host-Blu) Awesome Karen
(02:41:36) (ron) i experimented a few times during the 70's
(02:42:06) (Host-Blu) yes, seems to be a thing where the idea has been around a while, but perhaps the time has come to apply
(02:42:44) (Host-Blu) We would like to share Dr. Emotos story about this and the concept of materialization.
(02:43:05) (Host-Blu) That is if you are interested
(02:43:16) (ron) interested
(02:43:40) (Host-Blu) I think the results of Katrina show us that we are going to really need these abilities
(02:43:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 Clearing Cloud Game
(02:43:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) On a one fine day in Liechtenstein, we were strolling near the RhineRiver, and we tried to do the 'Clearing Cloud Game' which we had not done in a while.
(02:43:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit)
(02:43:44) (KAREN) yep !!
(02:44:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In a book that I published 10 years ago called 'Humanics of Hado', I wrote about the Clearing Cloud game that goes like this:
(02:45:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When it was about 50 km away from Sedona, Mr. N, the CEO who sat in the front seat of a rented car suddenly said, "Mr. Emoto, can you see that little cloud over there? Please watch it carefully. I am going to make it disappear." Mr. K, the CEO, and I were watching the cloud with doubt.
(02:45:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But when 1 minute passed away, the cloud started to change its form, and it got smaller and smaller. In 5 minutes, it was complete gone.(02:46:50) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We asked him, "What!? What is going on?" and he said:
(02:48:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "There is a book by Ms. Betty Shine called 'Spiritual Healing' and she says that 'If you direct your mind in a positive way and open up your mind (heighten the energy of your mind), in the vast unseen world, we can extract energy from the unlimited reservoir that is behind this world of reality.'
(02:49:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then, there were many ways to test and nourish this ability, and this "Clearing Cloud Game" was one of them.
(02:50:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Four main tips for this game are:
(02:50:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) 1. Try not to do it so hard. If you are so uptight, the energy does not move well.(02:51:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) 2. Imagine that there is a laser beam of energy that is coming out from your mind right into the clouds, and light up parts of the cloud.(02:52:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) 3. Say in the past tense that "The cloud disappeared."
(02:53:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) 4. At the same time, give thanks to the energy by saying "Thank you" again in the past tense (for Japanese).
(02:54:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Interestingly enough, if you do not doubt in any sense that this exercise will work, it always works. Ms. Shine says that "there is undeniably a clear connection with affirmative behavior and success / negative behavior and failure."
(02:55:04) (KAREN) this sounds a lot like intent mentioned in the celestine prophecy.
(02:55:15) (Host-Blu) Yes Karen
(02:57:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) As I expected, the cloud did disappear. Please take a look at the pictures below.
(02:57:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit)
(02:57:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) [url=http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/ediary200407.html
]Dr. Masaru Emoto's e-Diary: Cloud Clearing Pictures

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(02:57:25) (Host-Blu) That is all the material we were going to present
(02:57:49) (Host-Blu) That page shows pictures of the cloud and that is where the material comes from
(02:57:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This presentation today was from Dr. Matasru Emoto's e-diary.
(02:58:40) (Host-Blu) I would just like to point out that if there had been one person in the Areana in new Orleans who had this kind of understanding, I think it could have had a much different out come
(02:58:44) (ron) i once had the Celestine Prophecy but i gave it away...but there was something in the book that i forget to take notes on...because they were very informative regarding the spiritual advancements of mankind
(02:59:03) (Host-Blu) Yes Ron?
(02:59:52) (ron) now, there were 7 or more steps given in the book...i wish someone would take them from the book and let me have a copy...do you know what i'm referring to?
(03:00:03) (Host-Blu) Yes
(03:00:52) (ron) and i think they catch other interests if presented in a chat as well...you guys or anyone
(03:01:26) (ron) maybe someone will send me a copy of those advancements...with much appreciation
(03:01:28) (KAREN) it wasn't in the first book , the intent part came up in book 2 or 3 but i cannot remember the exact titles.
(03:01:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Absolutely. These principles can be applied to anything!
(03:01:47) (ron) i think it was in the first book
(03:02:18) (Host-Blu) I bet we could google that Ron
(03:02:26) (Host-Blu) there are a lot of web sites on those books
(03:02:28) (ron) by the way, i only tried 2 or 3 clouds...little one's...and they disappeared...but i did it slightly different
(03:02:31) (KAREN) it have been the shamballah book
(03:03:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) How did you do it, Ron?
(03:03:08) (Host-Blu) We have the Celstine Prophesy and we have the Secrets of Shambala
(03:03:23) (KAREN) their is a movie being made on the celstine prophecy
(03:03:24) (ron) i was told, or read, that heat applied to the cloud will be the cause for disappearance...i didn't know of such things
(03:03:36) (Host-Blu) Yes I saw mention of that karen
(03:04:01) (ron) so i imagined that the Sun was up against or into the cloud...and within a few minutes each one disappeared...and
(03:04:04) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cool, Ron
(03:04:07) (Host-Blu) I think it is much more interesting to make a round hole in the cloud, that way you know it did just not disappear
(03:04:20) (KAREN) there is also a website for the movie
(03:04:28) (ron) that was the last time i ever did because i wasn't sure i was really doing this...never did it again
(03:05:40) (ron) round hole, Blu...please explain better for me
(03:06:24) (ron) oh, as proof
(03:06:27) (Host-Blu) Ok, imagine a perfect circle in the cloud, like a doughnut hole
(03:06:33) (Host-Blu) yes
(03:06:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This reminds me of Frank Fools Crow, Sioux Holy Man...
(03:07:04) (Host-Blu) that way you know it did not just happen on it's own, how many doughnut type holes have you seen in clouds?
(03:07:06) (ron) go ahead
(03:07:55) (Host-Blu) Ron, this gives me an idea for your student, you could teach her this
(03:07:56) (ron) right blu...because i wasn't sure that it didn't happen by itslef...that is why i never did it again...my ego :)
(03:08:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Back in the 1960s, they were having a big pow-wow there on either Pine Ridge or Rosebud. I can't remember which. Anyway, it was the first big one thay had put together in a long time, and it was to be healing for The People...
(03:08:29) (Host-Blu) I know Ron, that is why I like the hole experiment better
(03:08:33) (ron) ok blu...and i'll tell you guys what i've been doing with my little guitar player
(03:08:42) (Host-Blu) cool
(03:09:28) (ron) student idea...?
(03:09:39) (Host-Blu) yes Ron, please continue
(03:09:41) (ron) after WIS?
(03:09:52) (Host-Blu) we can both talk!
(03:10:07) (Host-Blu) He types slow
(03:10:30) (Host-Blu) while he types we can have 3 conversations!
(03:11:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And it started raining and the rain was threatening to cancel out the pow-wow. So, Frank Fools Crow goes up into the Paha Sapa (Black Hills) and he does a ceremony while the guy who was interviewing him for his book was waiting with others down at the base of Paha Sapa.
(03:12:09) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They watched as the storm clouds suddenly started to vanish right there in front of them! Frank Fools Crow cleared them and kept the pow-wow on track!
(03:12:22) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'm sorry I type so slow.
(03:12:31) (ron) ok, one of the things i have been doing...i gave her/and mother a cassette recorder so she can talk, make up songs, sing with it...and whatever she wants...it has caught her attention...afterwaords i will be putting all on a CD so she can play at anytime..because she has the ability to be in the public as a performer if she wants to someday.....and
(03:13:18) (ron) very good WIS...this technique has been around for some time now
(03:14:15) (KAREN) ;//'
(03:14:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Cool, Ron!
(03:14:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That's a great idea!
(03:14:41) (ron) next i told her mother to play for her everyday three CD's that i recorded for her having nothing but guitar instrumentals playing...to play them while she is playing or doing her homework...as background music...i have noticed changes already
(03:15:13) (Host-Blu) Awesome Ron
(03:15:25) (Host-Blu) May I make a suggestion Ron?
(03:16:02) (ron) she is now working on Jingle Bells, Twinkle, Twinkle...the melodies are vaguely heard but what do you want for a 6 year old in about 10 lessons
(03:16:12) (Host-Blu) LOL
(03:16:15) (ron) ok blu
(03:16:43) (Host-Blu) This may be the best time of her life Ron to learn , and she is blessed to have such a spiritual teacher available to her
(03:16:53) (Qrious) thats awesome ron.. how old?
(03:17:59) (Host-Blu) I would like to suggest Ron that you teach her about ideals and how to apply them to her music. Teach her that music can be created and used to help others, to make them happy and to show people how to live a better life. Encourage her to form an ideal, even ask her why she things she came to this planet now?
(03:18:28) (ron) 6 year old little girl.
(03:18:50) (Host-Blu) I know Ron, at that age she knows more about her spiritual side than she ever will again
(03:19:02) (Qrious) Tell her then.. ifn' it too loud.. your too old.. rock on.. lol
(03:19:11) (ron) good idea blu....when the proper time comes i could make such suggestions
(03:19:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe, Qrious!
(03:19:38) (Host-Blu) say it in simple terms of course, like " how would you like to see your music help other people?
(03:20:08) (Host-Blu) or, can you imagine writing and playing beautiful music to make the world a happier place?
(03:20:08) (ron) yesterday she started writing her first song...the words that is
(03:20:19) (Host-Blu) That is wonderful Ron
(03:20:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Wow! That is great, Ron!
(03:20:26) (Qrious) My seven year old rocks on Def Lepard alot Walks.. he just showed up from school.. and I bet I catch him air-guitaring in his room.. lol
(03:20:33) (Host-Blu) You are her teacher Ron, and it is not just about music
(03:21:00) (Host-Blu) LOL @ Q
(03:21:05) (Qrious) f-f-f-f- foolin.. foolin myself. lol
(03:21:27) (ron) true...blu/WIS, i also feel that i know this little girl soul from the past (imagination, i don't know)..and the mother...what do you think?
(03:21:42) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Qrious
(03:21:46) (KAREN) ron , i always thought of the vowels in someones name as ones musical signature , anyone else please comment
(03:22:02) (Qrious) we got an acoustic and electric guitar.. just don't have lessons.. lol
(03:22:23) (Host-Blu) I remeber a teacher when I was young Ron, and he changed my whole life. If he had gone the extra mile with me and given me a vision for what I could do with the rest of my life I know I would have a chieved it. I did everything he expected of me, he just did not expect as much as I could have achieved.
(03:22:45) (Host-Blu) I am sure you do Ron, there are not accidents!
(03:23:07) (Host-Blu) Interesting idea Karen, I have never thought of that?
(03:23:27) (Host-Blu) vowel sounds are muusical
(03:23:38) (ron) yes, i believe that you can apply a sound to a vowel...i wonder what notes WIS would apply to the vowels...and if you do take the time to find out psychically, please let me know...that is interesting
(03:24:12) (Host-Blu) Well did Cayce not apply them to the chakras? and the A e i o um?
(03:24:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) That's an interesting thought, Karen. I have never thought about it. I'm wondering if there's the same kind of relationship between the vowles and consonants as there are between the arpeggios and scale notes?
(03:24:32) (ron) yes blu
(03:24:43) (Qrious) do ray fah so lah tee doh'isms.. lol
(03:24:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) LOL Ron! Great minds, huh?
(03:24:56) (Host-Blu) actually that is correct Q
(03:25:27) (Host-Blu) brb
(03:25:44) (ron) do ra fa etc...will they be C D E?...or would the be G A B etc...scale tones?
(03:25:59) (ron) what would be the key?
(03:26:06) (ron) to start with?
(03:26:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In an octave (scale) there's 8 notes. The arpeggios would be: 1, 3, 5, & 8.
(03:26:16) (ron) or it doesn't make any difference
(03:26:54) (ron) arpeggio's yes
(03:27:07) (Qrious) I wouldn't know.. listening to Cheap Tricks ..the flame.. lol
(03:27:14) (ron) for the key of C = C E G C notes from the C chord
(03:27:51) (ron) but how would one know if the C note, or the Key of C is the starting sound?
(03:28:12) (ron) maybe the universe is in the key E :)
(03:28:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ron, did you know those notes: E, C, & G are the notes that slot machines play when they are being played?
(03:28:21) (KAREN) who is the numerologist in our group ?maybe he or she could shd some lite on this topic.
(03:28:36) (ron) no i didn't WIS
(03:28:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep. Cause those notes elevate mood. :-)
(03:29:09) (Qrious) ron.. what would be the best book I could get to learn how to play guitar?
(03:29:39) (ron) i also have an interest in numbers but that is Lory's study...so i don't say much...i have a lot on Numerology if any one wanted to study
(03:30:09) (ron) there is an easy book available...and
(03:30:36) (KAREN) numbers in words to , not just names are very interesting
(03:30:36) (Qrious) numerology isn't hard karen.. its memory mostly.. depending on what number it is usually... its just applied to certain aspects of an individual.. cause biblically it states that God has numbered man in a certain way.
(03:30:37) (ron) when studying guitar it can be done in 2 parts...the study of notes and the study of chords...and
(03:31:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Qrious, I found a nice site online that has a database of online lessons for free. And you can subscribe to their e-mail lessons for free.
(03:31:30) (ron) since a beginners techinques is so bad it is best to learn to read notes first...so Alfred's Basic Guitar Methed is the easiest
(03:31:46) (ron) when finished with that book start on chords
(03:31:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It's called "Guitar Principles"
(03:31:48) (Qrious) I am a book sponge ron.. could you refer me to one.. am listening to Tesla rite now and am inspired.. lol
(03:32:05) (KAREN) ch u r ch / ch is 11 first master number then u r then ch again comes out to me anyway ui the church within
(03:32:14) (Qrious) thankyou you guys.. alot.
(03:32:26) (ron) now, guitar playing is not acutually found in the books...that is another story...and the right teacher can take over if needed
(03:32:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I'll send you the link to that site.
(03:33:17) (Qrious) thanks Walks.
(03:33:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I go there some and check out scales from time to time. They have a great database.
(03:33:35) (Qrious) have the tools ron.. just lack the teacher.
(03:34:11) (ron) try the online stuff given by WIS
(03:34:35) (ron) i can teach anyone at any age
(03:34:48) (ron) i've done it for 33 years
(03:35:00) (Qrious) wow.. thats a long time ron.
(03:35:03) (ron) and everyone is different
(03:35:32) (ron) i teach astrology as well
(03:35:36) (ron) and whatever
(03:35:46) (Qrious) I like Satriani's playing.. but I think that is shooting too far.. lol
(03:36:02) (ron) not that i'm good or have an special talent at whatever...its that i can teach
(03:36:21) (ron) progressive metal satriani
(03:36:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ron, want me to send you this site, too? Might be some exercises on here you could pass along to your students.
(03:36:52) (ron) ok WIS...it might be interesting
(03:37:03) (Qrious) I can teach only martial arts.. in details.. and with precise feeling and motives.. balance and effectiveness.. to da max.. of that I could attest to.
(03:37:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I like Esteban's playing.
(03:37:58) (Host-Blu) Q do you keep a journal?
(03:38:01) (ron) i haven't heard any of him except his ad
(03:38:14) (Qrious) haven't been exposed to Estaban much Walks. but do love the blues.
(03:38:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) His music is great, Ron. He went to Spain for years and studied under Sergio.
(03:38:38) (Qrious) no Blu.. funny you should ask.. my lady bought me two Journals.. to use.. but I don't.. lol
(03:38:56) (Qrious) I like Johnny Langs stuff.
(03:39:00) (ron) flamenco music?
(03:39:02) (Host-Blu) Hmmm, let me paste a Cayce qoute for you
(03:39:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep!
(03:39:18) (KAREN) any one heard of josh groban ?
(03:39:21) (ron) thats great music that Gypsy stuff
(03:39:48) (Host-Blu) Hence as has been given, know thyself, in whom thou believest! Not of earthly, not of material things, but mental and spiritual--and why! And by keeping a record of self--not as a diary, but thy purposes, what you have thought, what you have desired, the good that you have done--we will find this will bring physical and mental reactions that will be in keeping with the purposes for which each soul enters a material manifestation.
(03:39:53) (Qrious) no karen.. but will keep an ear out for him.
(03:40:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I was talking to my sis Joanie about him, and she had his CD, and she mailed it to me to borrow.
(03:40:33) (ron) yes, i like that...but forgot about it...good you reminded me blu
(03:40:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) She's looking for another one to send me. I don't know who the artist is, but the name of the CD is "Native Flamenco"
(03:40:47) (Qrious) I do dig that movie Eddie Lives.. the second part to Eddie and the Cruizers..
(03:41:06) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Oh... yeah, I like him, Karen.
(03:41:20) (Host-Blu) The journal part of that reading had never sunk into me before Ron, I keep dream journals. But this idea was new.
(03:41:44) (Qrious) the good I have done Blu? .. wouldn't that cause me to take a tally by mistake and become a stumbling stone because I might grow Vain?
(03:42:05) (ron) i keep a dream journal for many, many years...this i also like
(03:42:07) (Host-Blu) LOL Q
(03:42:31) (Host-Blu) Think you get any more vain Q? ;-D
(03:43:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I have kept a daily journal ever since I was in high school.
(03:43:25) (Qrious) but really Blu.. it would make me stuck up if I thought about all the awesome stuff I did for somebody.. It would make a fake pedistle for me to brag.. on a pulpit.. if ya know what I mean.. like G does..
(03:43:30) (crystal) I am working here and observing at the same time, please don't mind me
(03:43:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Our english teacher made us keep a journal for 2 weeks as part of our semester grade. And I was hooked!
(03:44:23) (Host-Blu) it's more like a road map Q, to point you in the way you are to go, by seeing what you do naturally. It's not for publishing!
(03:45:14) (KAREN) journaling is fun and productive i've found , for it has helped me look at myself more closely.
(03:45:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I keep three journals. I have a daily journal that I write about everyday stuff in. Then, I have a "Psychic Journal" that I record any psychic event that happens to me in. Then, I have a Dream Journal.
(03:46:25) (KAREN) i keep a combo dream and experiences journal
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