Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 16, 2006 19:38:21 GMT -5
Thursday Afternoon Chat: 02-16-02
"Relationships & Unconditional Love"
JohnB says: Oh Lord we thank you for a beautiful day and happen returns of those whom we love back to you oh Lord give us patience for those who are impatient , bless all in this chat room and their families Amen
Blu says: Amen!
karen says: amen!
Lynn says: kalo
ron says: amen
Blu says: Thank you John B, that made me feel better just reading it!
Roz says: Amen
di says: Amen
Blu says: How many of you all have heard of or know of the Cayce list of verses he called the short bible?
Whiteraven says: heard of ..know nothing
Lynn says: New to me
Blu says: I was reading Bill's last chat notes and I noticed a conversation pop up that I thought we might take a closer look at.
Blu says: Merri mentioned "Conditional Love"
Whiteraven says: k
JohnB says: how are you and Ral doing? W R
Whiteraven says: good thanks john
Blu says: There is a definite "If / then" quality to the texts, and many seem to feel that there are definite conditions placed on God's love.
Blu says: How do you all feel about that?
di says: roz hosted chats on the Short Bible, I think
Whiteraven says: i cant get my head around that statement Blu its early here for me lol
ron says: sounds reasonable to me
Whiteraven says: ill listen
Roz says: yes I did
Lynn says: I feel there are substances that are porous, love can flow through, there are substances that are nonporous, only some can get through. God can only reach us in the manner that we allow. That´s how I feel about it, Blu
di says: thought so :-)
Lynn says: That gives God´s love the appearance of conditional but its OUR conditions.
Blu says: That is really hitting the nail on the head Lynn
Whiteraven says: aye
Blu says: It's about a relationship
Lynn says: I have a gift, Blu, titter.
Blu says: LOL
Blu says: yes you do
Blu says: and that is what Love is about, a relationship
Blu says: it takes 2 and our relationship with God is no different than our relationship to each other
Lynn says: amen!!!!
karen says: in other words we at times put up shields........
karen says: ****times
Blu says: or blinders, or just plain don't want to give!
Blu says: right Karen
Blu says: It's not that God's love ever changes or is with held
Blu says: it is all dependant on us
Lynn says: Give me love , a straight dose, and I´ll run, like I did the other night in chat room. I´m working on this. Blu says: Same thing in marriage or any other relationship
Roz says: God is not a person that needs something
Blu says: no one said He was
JohnB says: right on Roz
Roz says: oh I was agreeing w/ ya
Blu says: But to force love on someone, that would be rape. God does not force anyone
karen says: what about source needing us to be co-creators.
Blu says: I would like to post the Duet. 30
Whiteraven says: hi merri
merri says: afternoon everyone
Roz says: hello Merri
Blu says: Hi Merri
karen says: hiho merri
JohnB says: hi Merri
di says: not need..but asks that we know, love, and serve Him in this world
di says: Hi merri
Blu says: New Living Translation
merri says: what are we discussing?
Blu says: Actually Merri I brought up the issue of unconditional love and our relationships to God
di says: actually discussing something you brought up merri
Blu says: The "if/then " Quality to the relationship we have with God
Blu says: Deu 30:1 "Suppose all these things happen to you-the blessings and the curses I have listed-and you meditate on them as you are living among the nations to which the Lord your God has exiled you
merri says: kooool....that topic has been under discussion the last several days
Blu says: Yes, I saw that when I was reading over Bill's chat, thought maybe we could look at it
Blu says: also thought looking at the short Bible, or one of them listed would help
Blu says: Deu 30:2 "If at that time you return to the Lord your God, and you and your children begin wholeheartedly to obey all the commands I have given you today,
Blu says: Deu 30:3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes. He will have mercy on you and gather you back from all the nations where he has scattered you. "
Blu says: These verses clearly define the "IF/Then" I am talking about
ron says: "obey"
Blu says: Anyone want to loosely translate what this verse means?
Lynn says: turn around, go the other way, you´ll find the good stuff.
di says: well, he's talking to Israel
Blu says: right, but there is a little more to it
Blu says: right Di
di says: he wants them to be unified
Blu says: In the very first verse what does it say to do?
di says: obey
Blu says: yes, obey, as a result of what?
di says: of returning to God
di says: and obeying the commandments?
Blu says: Key word here that I am looking for is Meditate
di says: oops...looking at wrong verse, sorry
Blu says: God gives us the free will to go out and make all the decisions we want to, and experience the results
Blu says: and he wants us to think about it, meditate on what has happen!
Blu says: Then IF we want to, we can come back and try it His way and see what happens
Blu says: Now is that Conditional Love?
merri says: no, that is a choice
di says: choice
Blu says: right
Blu says: Did God stop loving?
merri says: probably not
Lynn says: Never stopped loving me, and I´ve been REALLY messed up in my time.
di says: no...but a few in Bill's chat thought so
Blu says: obviously not, His love is unconditional. The If/Then comes into play when we decide to be in that relationship to Him
Blu says: The Love is not conditional, but the relationship is
Blu says: and that is the vital distinction here. If we will be His people, He will be our God. No force, If we will...
Blu says: It is our choice, you can not force love and happiness on anyone, they get to choose
Blu says: WE have the freedom to choose to do the things that will kill us, or give us life. God is Life, it is our choice.
Blu says: Deu 30:4 Though you are at the ends of the earth, the Lord your God will go and find you and bring you back again.
Blu says: Now that is LOVE
Lynn says: that hound of heaven!!
di says: Seems a logical conclusion ...God is love and it's our choice to accept or reject it
Blu says: How many people do you know , that if you walk away from them, thumb your nose at them, would care enough about you to go get you and bring you back? In spite of the hurtful things said and done?
Lynn says: I have friends who have done just that.
Blu says: Then that is Love Lynn, I call it the love that will not let me go.
Blu says: "Deu 30:5 He will return you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will possess that land again. He will make you even more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors! "
Blu says: Not only will God go to all the trouble of coming to get us, but he will give back all we have WILINGLY given up!
Blu says: And then some!
Lynn says: He restored to me the years the locusts had eaten, with extra blessings on top.
Blu says: "Deu 30:6 "The Lord your God will cleanse your heart and the hearts of all your descendants so that you will love him with all your heart and soul, and so you may live! "
Blu says: This verse shows us that not only does he come get us (IE Jesus ), but He is going to work with us to clean up the mess we have made of ourselves!
Blu says: and Why?
Blu says: So we can live
Blu says: I think of a drug addict here, how society throws them away and doesn't care what happens to them.
di says: think it came up (Bill's chat) ...mentioned some real unloving things God said...like. I will spew (him) out of my mouth
di says: and other stuff like that
Blu says: People burned out on drugs have all but destroyed themselves. We are like that, all but destroyed, but God is willing to Love us so much that He will fix the bad things we have done to ourselves.
di says: makes the choice of not choosing to be in a relationship, one that will cause us great pain
Whiteraven says: brb
Blu says: Who makes that choice Di?
di says: Each individual
Blu says: yeah, I would like to see that full verse before commenting on it.
Blu says: "Deu 30:7 The Lord your God will inflict all these curses on your enemies and persecutors.
Blu says: Deu 30:8 Then you will again obey the Lord and keep all the commands I am giving you today. "
Blu says: Why is it important that we keep the law, or the commands that God gives us?
Lynn says: Because that´s the way things work. If we obey the law of gravity, we are safe. If we jump off the building, we get hurt.
merri says: so we stay attune with the Universal Laws?
Blu says: YEAH!
Blu says: both right
Blu says: right
JohnB says: 5625
JohnB says: 51
karen says: so that we may all interact as one in god
JohnB says: 55255515
Lynn says: His commandments are not grievous, the Bible says. I say No. They´re fun!
Blu says: You guys are great
merri says: what are those numbers JohnB?
JohnB says: lol kidding merri
merri says: ok....thought it was a divine code or something...lol
Blu says: " Deu 30:9 The Lord your God will make you successful in everything you do. He will give you many children and numerous livestock, and your fields will produce abundant harvests, for the Lord will delight in being good to you as he was to your ancestors. "
di says: lol
Blu says: "Deu 30:10 The Lord your God will delight in you if you obey his voice and keep the commands and laws written in this Book of the Law, and if you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and soul. "
Lynn says: My flocks and my fields are greatly increased!
ron says: many earthly rewards even
Blu says: Imagine if you will, God delighting in you
Lynn says: He sings over us, the Bible says so.
Lynn says: Serenades us.
Blu says: "Deu 30:11 "This command I am giving you today is not too difficult for you to understand or perform.
Blu says: Deu 30:12 It is not up in heaven, so distant that you must ask, `Who will go to heaven and bring it down so we can hear and obey it?'
Blu says: Deu 30:13 It is not beyond the sea, so far away that you must ask, `Who will cross the sea to bring it to us so we can hear and obey it?
Blu says: Deu 30:14 The message is very close at hand; it is on your lips and in your heart so that you can obey it. "
Blu says: These last few verses are fascinating to me
Lynn says: In out hearts, to me, means its what we really WANT to do.
Blu says: encrypted in our being is the key to life
Blu says: Did you know that we are all 99.9% genetically alike?
Blu says: LOL, I just heard that on Oprah!
Blu says: kind of a synchronicity
merri says: that would make sense
Lynn says: thanks for the knowledge. 99.9%
Blu says: wild huh?
Blu says: we focus so much on the differences
karen says: what then is that other .99 %/ dna?
Blu says: Hi Anon
Lynn says: viva la difference! Keeps us interesting.
Blu says: I doubt that, it may be the effects of being created on the different continents
Lynn says: Let us rejoice in our differences.
Blu says: the racial stuff
Blu says: but that is a small percentage of difference
merri says: if not for the differences we would all be in love with the same man and vice versa!!
merri says: lol
Blu says: We are talking about unconditional love Crystal
Blu says: "Deu 30:15 "Now listen! Today I am giving you a choice between prosperity and disaster, between life and death. "
crystal says: ah thanks Blu
di says: lol...i'm here
Blu says: "Deu 30:16 I have commanded you today to love the Lord your God and to keep his commands, laws, and regulations by walking in his ways. If you do this, you will live and become a great nation, and the Lord your God will bless you and the land you are about to enter and occupy.
Blu says: Deu 30:17 But if your heart turns away and you refuse to listen, and if you are drawn away to serve and worship other gods,
Blu says: Deu 30:18 then I warn you now that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live a long, good life in the land you are crossing the Jordan to occupy. "
Blu says: Now, is this the face of God that is vengeful?
Blu says: You don't play this game my way I am going to hurt you!
crystal says: it doesn't sound like a loving God
Blu says: not to loving
Blu says: Is that what these verses are saying?
ron says: give you a slap on the butt
Blu says: lol
di says: we'll wind up hurting ourselves
Lynn says: Bobbie, if you run into the street, you´ll get hurt.
Blu says: A lot depends here on how you perceive these verses
Blu says: a fish out of water is a dead duck
Blu says: lol
Blu says: right Lynn
Blu says: Who are we?
JohnB says: shop
Blu says: Are we humans having human experience?
merri says: that's what is indicated
Lynn says: I´m an alien trapped here. help!
karen says: we are souls having a human experience
merri says: and this earth experience is only one of many universal experiences
merri says: oops misread that Blu
karen says: then does the 3rd dimension create ego
merri says: agree with karen
ron says: ego=inflated ego
Lynn says: no, but the astral sure does, karen.
Blu says: If we do not obey the truth within us, then that is exactly what happens, we become mere humans having a temporal experience and we die
Blu says: When you were a child, how did you feel about yourself? As far back as you can remember before the corruption took place?
ron says: represents the center of our being
ron says: I Am That I Am
Blu says: I knew I was special, and I knew I was going to do great things!
karen says: even as an infant?
Blu says: Right Ron, we knew back then, and that is the inference Jesus makes about children
Blu says: Especially then Karen
Blu says: Next time you are in a shopping area where you can catch the attention of an infant try this little experiment.
Blu says: I always do this walking behind mothers shopping with Babies in the child seat!
karen says: does birth into the third dimension rep resent actual death of the soul
Blu says: I get the attention of the Baby by looking them in the eye and I smile and wave at the Baby , or maybe wink at them.
Blu says:No, far from it Karen
Blu says: I begin to think at them, so that I send them telepathically a message. I welcome them to earth, and I tell them what a brave soul they are to come to earth at this time. You will be amazed at the responses you get from them!
karen says: for it was at the deciding to enter the earth plane that the fall was imminent
Blu says: They look at me as if saying "How did you know!?" Sometimes they look amazed that you can do this. It's really cool. you ought to try it.
ron says: starts crying all over again :)
karen says: because of ego
crystal says: they said the old and the young are closest to God
Blu says: Don't cry Ron!
Blu says: ;-0 @ Lynn
Qrious says: well karen.. oh.. never mind.
ron says: to disobey can be very egotistical
Blu says: They truly are Crystal, and they really appreciate it when someone recognizes that
Blu says: Deu 30:19 "Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, that you and your descendants might live!
karen says: Q hi , please finish your thought
ron says: lol Blu
Blu says: "Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, that you and your descendants might live!
Blu says: Can you feel the passion in that verse? OH that you might choose life!
Blu says: I can feel God cheering us on!
karen says: but which is the true life ?
ron says: life...to choose happiness
Blu says: It's written on your heart Karen, and on your lips
di says: ...For I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life
Blu says: Blu says: Deu 30:20 Choose to love the Lord your God and to obey him and commit yourself to him, for he is your life. Then you will live long in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob."
Blu says: Amen!
karen says: amen!
Lynn says: kalo
ron says: amen
Blu says: Thank you John B, that made me feel better just reading it!
Roz says: Amen
di says: Amen
Blu says: How many of you all have heard of or know of the Cayce list of verses he called the short bible?
Whiteraven says: heard of ..know nothing
Lynn says: New to me
Blu says: I was reading Bill's last chat notes and I noticed a conversation pop up that I thought we might take a closer look at.
Blu says: Merri mentioned "Conditional Love"
Whiteraven says: k
JohnB says: how are you and Ral doing? W R
Whiteraven says: good thanks john
Blu says: There is a definite "If / then" quality to the texts, and many seem to feel that there are definite conditions placed on God's love.
Blu says: How do you all feel about that?
di says: roz hosted chats on the Short Bible, I think
Whiteraven says: i cant get my head around that statement Blu its early here for me lol
ron says: sounds reasonable to me
Whiteraven says: ill listen
Roz says: yes I did
Lynn says: I feel there are substances that are porous, love can flow through, there are substances that are nonporous, only some can get through. God can only reach us in the manner that we allow. That´s how I feel about it, Blu
di says: thought so :-)
Lynn says: That gives God´s love the appearance of conditional but its OUR conditions.
Blu says: That is really hitting the nail on the head Lynn
Whiteraven says: aye
Blu says: It's about a relationship
Lynn says: I have a gift, Blu, titter.
Blu says: LOL
Blu says: yes you do
Blu says: and that is what Love is about, a relationship
Blu says: it takes 2 and our relationship with God is no different than our relationship to each other
Lynn says: amen!!!!
karen says: in other words we at times put up shields........
karen says: ****times
Blu says: or blinders, or just plain don't want to give!
Blu says: right Karen
Blu says: It's not that God's love ever changes or is with held
Blu says: it is all dependant on us
Lynn says: Give me love , a straight dose, and I´ll run, like I did the other night in chat room. I´m working on this. Blu says: Same thing in marriage or any other relationship
Roz says: God is not a person that needs something
Blu says: no one said He was
JohnB says: right on Roz
Roz says: oh I was agreeing w/ ya
Blu says: But to force love on someone, that would be rape. God does not force anyone
karen says: what about source needing us to be co-creators.
Blu says: I would like to post the Duet. 30
Whiteraven says: hi merri
merri says: afternoon everyone
Roz says: hello Merri
Blu says: Hi Merri
karen says: hiho merri
JohnB says: hi Merri
di says: not need..but asks that we know, love, and serve Him in this world
di says: Hi merri
Blu says: New Living Translation
merri says: what are we discussing?
Blu says: Actually Merri I brought up the issue of unconditional love and our relationships to God
di says: actually discussing something you brought up merri
Blu says: The "if/then " Quality to the relationship we have with God
Blu says: Deu 30:1 "Suppose all these things happen to you-the blessings and the curses I have listed-and you meditate on them as you are living among the nations to which the Lord your God has exiled you
merri says: kooool....that topic has been under discussion the last several days
Blu says: Yes, I saw that when I was reading over Bill's chat, thought maybe we could look at it
Blu says: also thought looking at the short Bible, or one of them listed would help
Blu says: Deu 30:2 "If at that time you return to the Lord your God, and you and your children begin wholeheartedly to obey all the commands I have given you today,
Blu says: Deu 30:3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes. He will have mercy on you and gather you back from all the nations where he has scattered you. "
Blu says: These verses clearly define the "IF/Then" I am talking about
ron says: "obey"
Blu says: Anyone want to loosely translate what this verse means?
Lynn says: turn around, go the other way, you´ll find the good stuff.
di says: well, he's talking to Israel
Blu says: right, but there is a little more to it
Blu says: right Di
di says: he wants them to be unified
Blu says: In the very first verse what does it say to do?
di says: obey
Blu says: yes, obey, as a result of what?
di says: of returning to God
di says: and obeying the commandments?
Blu says: Key word here that I am looking for is Meditate
di says: oops...looking at wrong verse, sorry
Blu says: God gives us the free will to go out and make all the decisions we want to, and experience the results
Blu says: and he wants us to think about it, meditate on what has happen!
Blu says: Then IF we want to, we can come back and try it His way and see what happens
Blu says: Now is that Conditional Love?
merri says: no, that is a choice
di says: choice
Blu says: right
Blu says: Did God stop loving?
merri says: probably not
Lynn says: Never stopped loving me, and I´ve been REALLY messed up in my time.
di says: no...but a few in Bill's chat thought so
Blu says: obviously not, His love is unconditional. The If/Then comes into play when we decide to be in that relationship to Him
Blu says: The Love is not conditional, but the relationship is
Blu says: and that is the vital distinction here. If we will be His people, He will be our God. No force, If we will...
Blu says: It is our choice, you can not force love and happiness on anyone, they get to choose
Blu says: WE have the freedom to choose to do the things that will kill us, or give us life. God is Life, it is our choice.
Blu says: Deu 30:4 Though you are at the ends of the earth, the Lord your God will go and find you and bring you back again.
Blu says: Now that is LOVE
Lynn says: that hound of heaven!!
di says: Seems a logical conclusion ...God is love and it's our choice to accept or reject it
Blu says: How many people do you know , that if you walk away from them, thumb your nose at them, would care enough about you to go get you and bring you back? In spite of the hurtful things said and done?
Lynn says: I have friends who have done just that.
Blu says: Then that is Love Lynn, I call it the love that will not let me go.
Blu says: "Deu 30:5 He will return you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will possess that land again. He will make you even more prosperous and numerous than your ancestors! "
Blu says: Not only will God go to all the trouble of coming to get us, but he will give back all we have WILINGLY given up!
Blu says: And then some!
Lynn says: He restored to me the years the locusts had eaten, with extra blessings on top.
Blu says: "Deu 30:6 "The Lord your God will cleanse your heart and the hearts of all your descendants so that you will love him with all your heart and soul, and so you may live! "
Blu says: This verse shows us that not only does he come get us (IE Jesus ), but He is going to work with us to clean up the mess we have made of ourselves!
Blu says: and Why?
Blu says: So we can live
Blu says: I think of a drug addict here, how society throws them away and doesn't care what happens to them.
di says: think it came up (Bill's chat) ...mentioned some real unloving things God said...like. I will spew (him) out of my mouth
di says: and other stuff like that
Blu says: People burned out on drugs have all but destroyed themselves. We are like that, all but destroyed, but God is willing to Love us so much that He will fix the bad things we have done to ourselves.
di says: makes the choice of not choosing to be in a relationship, one that will cause us great pain
Whiteraven says: brb
Blu says: Who makes that choice Di?
di says: Each individual
Blu says: yeah, I would like to see that full verse before commenting on it.
Blu says: "Deu 30:7 The Lord your God will inflict all these curses on your enemies and persecutors.
Blu says: Deu 30:8 Then you will again obey the Lord and keep all the commands I am giving you today. "
Blu says: Why is it important that we keep the law, or the commands that God gives us?
Lynn says: Because that´s the way things work. If we obey the law of gravity, we are safe. If we jump off the building, we get hurt.
merri says: so we stay attune with the Universal Laws?
Blu says: YEAH!
Blu says: both right
Blu says: right
JohnB says: 5625
JohnB says: 51
karen says: so that we may all interact as one in god
JohnB says: 55255515
Lynn says: His commandments are not grievous, the Bible says. I say No. They´re fun!
Blu says: You guys are great
merri says: what are those numbers JohnB?
JohnB says: lol kidding merri
merri says: ok....thought it was a divine code or something...lol
Blu says: " Deu 30:9 The Lord your God will make you successful in everything you do. He will give you many children and numerous livestock, and your fields will produce abundant harvests, for the Lord will delight in being good to you as he was to your ancestors. "
di says: lol
Blu says: "Deu 30:10 The Lord your God will delight in you if you obey his voice and keep the commands and laws written in this Book of the Law, and if you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and soul. "
Lynn says: My flocks and my fields are greatly increased!
ron says: many earthly rewards even
Blu says: Imagine if you will, God delighting in you
Lynn says: He sings over us, the Bible says so.
Lynn says: Serenades us.
Blu says: "Deu 30:11 "This command I am giving you today is not too difficult for you to understand or perform.
Blu says: Deu 30:12 It is not up in heaven, so distant that you must ask, `Who will go to heaven and bring it down so we can hear and obey it?'
Blu says: Deu 30:13 It is not beyond the sea, so far away that you must ask, `Who will cross the sea to bring it to us so we can hear and obey it?
Blu says: Deu 30:14 The message is very close at hand; it is on your lips and in your heart so that you can obey it. "
Blu says: These last few verses are fascinating to me
Lynn says: In out hearts, to me, means its what we really WANT to do.
Blu says: encrypted in our being is the key to life
Blu says: Did you know that we are all 99.9% genetically alike?
Blu says: LOL, I just heard that on Oprah!
Blu says: kind of a synchronicity
merri says: that would make sense
Lynn says: thanks for the knowledge. 99.9%
Blu says: wild huh?
Blu says: we focus so much on the differences
karen says: what then is that other .99 %/ dna?
Blu says: Hi Anon
Lynn says: viva la difference! Keeps us interesting.
Blu says: I doubt that, it may be the effects of being created on the different continents
Lynn says: Let us rejoice in our differences.
Blu says: the racial stuff
Blu says: but that is a small percentage of difference
merri says: if not for the differences we would all be in love with the same man and vice versa!!
merri says: lol
Blu says: We are talking about unconditional love Crystal
Blu says: "Deu 30:15 "Now listen! Today I am giving you a choice between prosperity and disaster, between life and death. "
crystal says: ah thanks Blu
di says: lol...i'm here
Blu says: "Deu 30:16 I have commanded you today to love the Lord your God and to keep his commands, laws, and regulations by walking in his ways. If you do this, you will live and become a great nation, and the Lord your God will bless you and the land you are about to enter and occupy.
Blu says: Deu 30:17 But if your heart turns away and you refuse to listen, and if you are drawn away to serve and worship other gods,
Blu says: Deu 30:18 then I warn you now that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live a long, good life in the land you are crossing the Jordan to occupy. "
Blu says: Now, is this the face of God that is vengeful?
Blu says: You don't play this game my way I am going to hurt you!
crystal says: it doesn't sound like a loving God
Blu says: not to loving
Blu says: Is that what these verses are saying?
ron says: give you a slap on the butt
Blu says: lol
di says: we'll wind up hurting ourselves
Lynn says: Bobbie, if you run into the street, you´ll get hurt.
Blu says: A lot depends here on how you perceive these verses
Blu says: a fish out of water is a dead duck
Blu says: lol
Blu says: right Lynn
Blu says: Who are we?
JohnB says: shop
Blu says: Are we humans having human experience?
merri says: that's what is indicated
Lynn says: I´m an alien trapped here. help!
karen says: we are souls having a human experience
merri says: and this earth experience is only one of many universal experiences
merri says: oops misread that Blu
karen says: then does the 3rd dimension create ego
merri says: agree with karen
ron says: ego=inflated ego
Lynn says: no, but the astral sure does, karen.
Blu says: If we do not obey the truth within us, then that is exactly what happens, we become mere humans having a temporal experience and we die
Blu says: When you were a child, how did you feel about yourself? As far back as you can remember before the corruption took place?
ron says: represents the center of our being
ron says: I Am That I Am
Blu says: I knew I was special, and I knew I was going to do great things!
karen says: even as an infant?
Blu says: Right Ron, we knew back then, and that is the inference Jesus makes about children
Blu says: Especially then Karen
Blu says: Next time you are in a shopping area where you can catch the attention of an infant try this little experiment.
Blu says: I always do this walking behind mothers shopping with Babies in the child seat!
karen says: does birth into the third dimension rep resent actual death of the soul
Blu says: I get the attention of the Baby by looking them in the eye and I smile and wave at the Baby , or maybe wink at them.
Blu says:No, far from it Karen
Blu says: I begin to think at them, so that I send them telepathically a message. I welcome them to earth, and I tell them what a brave soul they are to come to earth at this time. You will be amazed at the responses you get from them!
karen says: for it was at the deciding to enter the earth plane that the fall was imminent
Blu says: They look at me as if saying "How did you know!?" Sometimes they look amazed that you can do this. It's really cool. you ought to try it.
ron says: starts crying all over again :)
karen says: because of ego
crystal says: they said the old and the young are closest to God
Blu says: Don't cry Ron!
Blu says: ;-0 @ Lynn
Qrious says: well karen.. oh.. never mind.
ron says: to disobey can be very egotistical
Blu says: They truly are Crystal, and they really appreciate it when someone recognizes that
Blu says: Deu 30:19 "Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, that you and your descendants might live!
karen says: Q hi , please finish your thought
ron says: lol Blu
Blu says: "Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, that you and your descendants might live!
Blu says: Can you feel the passion in that verse? OH that you might choose life!
Blu says: I can feel God cheering us on!
karen says: but which is the true life ?
ron says: life...to choose happiness
Blu says: It's written on your heart Karen, and on your lips
di says: ...For I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life
Blu says: Blu says: Deu 30:20 Choose to love the Lord your God and to obey him and commit yourself to him, for he is your life. Then you will live long in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob."