Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 20, 2005 18:35:58 GMT -5
Thursday Afternoon Chat: 10-20-05
"Sun Bear's Earth Changes Prophecies"
(01:21:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Today, I thought we would talk about Sun Bear - Chippewa Holy Man - and his Earth Changes Prophecies.
(01:24:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, ready to see what Sun Bear saw?
(01:24:46) (Von) do it WIS
(01:24:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear (d. 1993) was founder of the Bear tribe in Washington State. In his book Black Dawn/Bright Day (written with Wabun Wind), Sun Bear gave warning of Earth Changes. According to Sun Bear, old Ojibwa pictographs, written on birch bark scrolls, tell this prophesy:
(01:25:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "(Our great ancestors) saw the coming of the Europeans to this continent. They saw the kinds of hats they would be wearing. They saw how they would look and the kind of canoes they would have.
(01:25:48) (vjh) Yeah, WIS, yesterday when I woke up on TV they said that over night that storm, Wilma had turned into the worst storm ever in the Atlantic basin. Just real fast it changed.
(01:25:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They were told that if these people came in a sacred manner and accepted the knowledge that was given them by the people of this continent, then it would be a beautiful thing. We would walk as brothers and sisters on the land.
(01:26:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, overnight, didn't it, VJ?
(01:26:45) (vjh) Yes, real fast.
(01:26:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "It soon became obvious that the Europeans didn't respect the sacred teachings of the land. Our prophesies said that if this happened, there would come a time when we would lie in the dust for 100 years or more as if we were dead.
(01:27:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Even our own people wouldn't respect our teachings, and both Native and non-Native people would fail to understand them. Some Natives would turn from the teachings and be lured away saying, 'This is a better teaching.'
(01:27:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Our prophesies also said that at the end of that 100 years, we would be walking on our hind legs again. We would be alive as if we were Earth spirits just reborn. We would stand up and have our power again.
(01:27:40) (Raleigh) gee walks
(01:27:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We would be able to call in the forces - the thunder and the lightning and the storms - and communicate with these powers all the time because this is part of our ancient knowledge. We would have these abilities again, and we would return to the sacred path.
(01:28:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "At that time, our sons and daughters would again come to us and ask to be taught the sacred ways. And the sons and daughters of the people who had come across the great Water would come to us too. They would say, 'teach us, for we are about to destroy the Earth.' This is the stage we are at right now...
(01:29:21) (Raleigh) i know of this walks
(01:29:49) (Raleigh) as prayer to control weather yup
(01:30:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Keep in mind that this is from his book, "Black Dawn, Bright Day" which was written in 1992, so some of these "prophecies" will have probably already have come to pass, as we'll see further on into this...
(01:30:38) (anglondn) k
(01:30:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Another prophesy of my Native people speaks of a time when the Earth would hold back her increase: one area would be too wet; another too dry. One place would be too hot; another, too cold.
(01:30:51) (Raleigh) k
(01:31:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is what we are experiencing now... Another part of the prophesy states that the rivers will change their courses."
(01:31:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear also described one of his Dreams of Destruction:
(01:31:49) (Raleigh) worst drought in history right now in the amazon btw
(01:31:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Over a period of time I have had many, many dreams that showed the coming of the Earth changes... One reason that I organized the Bear Tribe as a rural-base community was because I saw in my dreams major destruction coming to the cities.
(01:32:03) (vjh) Yes, I had a dream 10 years ago in which my grandmother came to me and showed me that this river is going to change course.
(01:32:31) (anglondn) wow
(01:32:36) (anglondn) and it did?
(01:32:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, I thought of your dream when I was getting these notes together, VJ.
(01:32:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I saw a time when the cities wouldn't exist in their present state. During the changes the most dangerous places will be near cities with nuclear and chemical plants. But all major cities will experience a breakdown in services. In my dreams, I've seen great garbage piles on the streets, the electric service out of order because of storms and earthquakes, broken water mains, and no more gasoline because of a major breakdown of the system.
(01:32:59) (Raleigh) as ec sayz mississippi wil flow backwardz as well walks
(01:33:02) (vjh) not yet. It's going to be drastic earth changes when it does.
(01:33:16) (vjh) My grandmother was a good woman and highly respected.
(01:33:41) (Raleigh) who said these things walks?
(01:33:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It did, Ral. When Hurricane Katrina came ashore, the Mississippi River flowed backwards for a time.
(01:33:56) (Raleigh) huh ok walks yes
(01:33:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear - Chippewa Holy Man.
(01:34:09) (Raleigh) k
(01:34:30) (anglondn) all that is now pretty much
(01:34:45) (Raleigh) what angie
(01:35:03) (Raleigh) ?
(01:35:09) (anglondn) what WIS just said
(01:35:19) (Raleigh) pardon me walks continue ok
(01:35:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Read what I just posted, very carefully. He saw that back in the 1970s. And that is a description of New Orleans, post Katrina, if I have ever heard one!
(01:35:38) (Raleigh) hmmmm
(01:36:04) (Von) intereing WIS
(01:36:08) (Raleigh) yes w
(01:36:11) (Raleigh) very
(01:36:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In my dreams, I've seen great garbage piles on the streets, the electric service out of order because of storms and earthquakes, broken water mains, and no more gasoline because of a major breakdown of the system.
(01:36:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) See?
(01:36:22) (Von) interesting
(01:36:35) (anglondn) yes
(01:36:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I also foresee race riots in the big cities, with street gangs engaged in uncontrolled fighting against each other, using guns to get what they want. When there is no money to pay their salaries, the police will not be there to protect the people in the city.
(01:37:04) (Raleigh) sun bear?
(01:37:15) (Raleigh) your dreamz walks?
(01:37:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes, this is what Sun Bear - Chippewa Holy Man - saw. in the 1970s and earlier.
(01:37:32) (anglondn) every man for himself,almost
(01:37:40) (Raleigh) k ty
(01:37:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Instead, in one of my dreams, I saw the police banded together in groups calling themselves the 'Brothers of the Gun.' They were using their guns to take whatever they wanted. This is already happening in other parts of the world...
(01:38:15) (anglondn) didnt know that
(01:38:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I see the cities being hit by major epidemics caused by bad water, toxic chemicals, or other things...
(01:38:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Bird Flu?
(01:38:41) (Raleigh) i just escaped from the gun captitol of idaho ang
(01:38:49) (Raleigh) you bet now \
(01:39:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "In my dreams, I've also seen wheat crops that had rusted. They had candy-like clumps of rust, a serious disease that was destroying the crops. There were great black birds, like crows or vultures, just waiting.
(01:40:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With nothing left to eat, these birds were scavenging bodies as humans died... In my dreams I see diseases like this continuing to cause great destruction...
(01:40:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Again, Bird Flu perhaps?
(01:40:34) (anglondn) yep
(01:40:52) (Raleigh) gee ive not studied this flu
(01:41:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "In my dreams I've also seen small bands of people living very close to the Earth. I saw that other people would come to join them, and they would embrace these newcomers.
(01:41:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) All they said to them was, 'You have survived.' There were no more 'isms' in the world - not Catholicism, not Communism, nothing. We were all just human beings living on the Earth in a sacred manner...
(01:41:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I see about one-fourth of the world's population surviving. All those who do survive will come through with a higher level of consciousness..."
(01:41:58) (Raleigh) yes ok for the 1000
(01:42:06) (Raleigh) years ok
(01:42:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I saw people living together in groups sharing and helping each other, Indian and non-Indian alike. I saw the Earth Mother being healed as people began to show real love for the land.
(01:42:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But first I saw whole cities become desolate because there was no way left for people to support themselves. I wondered at this when this nation seemed to be all-powerful. Then I saw the vision of the great drought years, a time when the Earth Mother would withhold all increase...
(01:42:45) (Raleigh) well this is the millenia walks / :)
(01:42:46) (Von) beautiful WIS
(01:43:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I saw camps of people around natural water, such as rivers, creeks, and springs, working hard to produce their food, but thankful to be alive, for only here and there were small bands of people alive, and they were thankful to the Great Spirit that they were.
(01:43:25) (Raleigh) yes but walks
(01:43:39) (Raleigh) hmmm k
(01:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When people came together they embraced with love, even those who were strangers before that moment, because they knew.
(01:44:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "There were only a few people surviving these changes. I've seen major destruction, and people fleeing great cities, and other people dying from pollution, and cities abandoned, and I wondered how, until these last few years when I see California and other places which no longer have the water, electricity, or natural gases to care for their cities.
(01:44:28) (Raleigh) knew?
(01:44:32) (Anonymous) is there anything in the prophecies that sounds like a 1000 year rule by jesus and his 144000 saints
(01:44:33) (Anonymous) i think cayce speaks of such
(01:44:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Knew, as in they recognized each other... in a spiritual sense.
(01:45:08) (Raleigh) yes ok ty
(01:45:15) (ron) revelation
(01:45:45) (Von) I getter get my boat back out and get ready then
(01:45:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes, there are several paralells between Sun Bear's visions and the Cayce prophecies. That's one reason I decided to share this. :-)
(01:46:02) (ron) when satan is suppresed...allowing those that wish for spiritual progress will be able to do so in this personal quest
(01:46:03) (Anonymous) yes revelation too but many parts of revelation cayce says can be an inner symbolic manfestation rather than external in the world
(01:46:17) (Raleigh) ok ron
(01:46:21) (anglondn) this almost sounds like the time when the government makes everyone get a computer chip implanted in theyre skin
(01:46:36) (Anonymous) a.r.e. has a book out of a special series of cayce readings on revelation
(01:46:39) (ron) true...collectively by the 12th chapter
(01:46:42) (Raleigh) yes the anti christ will impersonate first
(01:46:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep
(01:46:46) (ron) thereafter
(01:46:48) (Raleigh) dont forget this ok
(01:47:11) (anglondn) those with a chip recieve and those without dont
(01:47:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Bible says we'll be able to know who the Anti-Christ is, though.
(01:47:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Then I understood what I saw before. We were told that our people would lay as if dead in the dust, and then we would rise up on the land again. We were told that the sons and daughters of the possessors of our land would come to us and accept our ways, and that we would live together as one people sharing the land and sowing love and understanding for each other."
(01:47:28) (Raleigh) well mot will not
(01:47:30) (ron) rather, collectively starting at the 12th chapter i believe...from an ARE tpe that i have
(01:47:34) (anglondn) i dont want that chip
(01:47:36) (Raleigh) jc as say
(01:48:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Source: Sun Bear & Wabun Wind: Black Dawn/Bright Day; 1990, Bear Tribe Publ., WA
(01:48:03) (Raleigh) most will see jc
(01:48:04) (Raleigh) on
(01:48:13) (anglondn) theyre already giving it to inmates in prison in china
(01:48:19) (Raleigh) most will see jc like
(01:48:20) (Anonymous) 666 some say is a numerical gemaria ? symbol for the conscious mind that gets disassociated with a balancing subconscious mind by way of conscious abuse of knowledge for self aggrandizement
(01:48:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I was wrong on the date of the book. It was written in 1990. :-)
(01:48:25) (Raleigh) on cnn
(01:48:32) (Raleigh) its a lie
(01:48:37) (Raleigh) dang it
(01:48:41) (Raleigh) ok
(01:48:50) (Anonymous) and when the number for the subconscious is added properly to 666 it is the number of the christ mind
01:49:50) (ron) some have interpreted the 666 as the number of man
(01:49:54) (Raleigh) all will see as jesus preforming miricles / clear debt as well / for all / thisa ios all a lie
(01:49:58) (Raleigh) ----
(01:50:10) (Raleigh) most will be fooled by this 1
(01:50:11) (Raleigh) ---
(01:50:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, now, I have an article here where they tell of Sun Bear predicting Mt. St. Helens and also Mt. Ranier's eruptions.
(01:50:21) (Raleigh) this cherub
(01:50:23) (ron) equals 9...violent ending as is typical with all endings
(01:50:24) (Raleigh) lucifer
(01:50:58) (anglondn) tru ron
(01:50:59) (Raleigh) gee walks
(01:51:01) (Anonymous) well man's fallen nature that is driven by artificial self justification when it reaches a certain negative level perhaps
(01:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then, we'll discuss what we've covered.
(01:51:20) (Raleigh) ok w
(01:24:30) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, ready to see what Sun Bear saw?
(01:24:46) (Von) do it WIS
(01:24:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear (d. 1993) was founder of the Bear tribe in Washington State. In his book Black Dawn/Bright Day (written with Wabun Wind), Sun Bear gave warning of Earth Changes. According to Sun Bear, old Ojibwa pictographs, written on birch bark scrolls, tell this prophesy:
(01:25:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "(Our great ancestors) saw the coming of the Europeans to this continent. They saw the kinds of hats they would be wearing. They saw how they would look and the kind of canoes they would have.
(01:25:48) (vjh) Yeah, WIS, yesterday when I woke up on TV they said that over night that storm, Wilma had turned into the worst storm ever in the Atlantic basin. Just real fast it changed.
(01:25:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They were told that if these people came in a sacred manner and accepted the knowledge that was given them by the people of this continent, then it would be a beautiful thing. We would walk as brothers and sisters on the land.
(01:26:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, overnight, didn't it, VJ?
(01:26:45) (vjh) Yes, real fast.
(01:26:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "It soon became obvious that the Europeans didn't respect the sacred teachings of the land. Our prophesies said that if this happened, there would come a time when we would lie in the dust for 100 years or more as if we were dead.
(01:27:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Even our own people wouldn't respect our teachings, and both Native and non-Native people would fail to understand them. Some Natives would turn from the teachings and be lured away saying, 'This is a better teaching.'
(01:27:28) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Our prophesies also said that at the end of that 100 years, we would be walking on our hind legs again. We would be alive as if we were Earth spirits just reborn. We would stand up and have our power again.
(01:27:40) (Raleigh) gee walks
(01:27:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We would be able to call in the forces - the thunder and the lightning and the storms - and communicate with these powers all the time because this is part of our ancient knowledge. We would have these abilities again, and we would return to the sacred path.
(01:28:33) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "At that time, our sons and daughters would again come to us and ask to be taught the sacred ways. And the sons and daughters of the people who had come across the great Water would come to us too. They would say, 'teach us, for we are about to destroy the Earth.' This is the stage we are at right now...
(01:29:21) (Raleigh) i know of this walks
(01:29:49) (Raleigh) as prayer to control weather yup
(01:30:07) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Keep in mind that this is from his book, "Black Dawn, Bright Day" which was written in 1992, so some of these "prophecies" will have probably already have come to pass, as we'll see further on into this...
(01:30:38) (anglondn) k
(01:30:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Another prophesy of my Native people speaks of a time when the Earth would hold back her increase: one area would be too wet; another too dry. One place would be too hot; another, too cold.
(01:30:51) (Raleigh) k
(01:31:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) This is what we are experiencing now... Another part of the prophesy states that the rivers will change their courses."
(01:31:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear also described one of his Dreams of Destruction:
(01:31:49) (Raleigh) worst drought in history right now in the amazon btw
(01:31:52) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Over a period of time I have had many, many dreams that showed the coming of the Earth changes... One reason that I organized the Bear Tribe as a rural-base community was because I saw in my dreams major destruction coming to the cities.
(01:32:03) (vjh) Yes, I had a dream 10 years ago in which my grandmother came to me and showed me that this river is going to change course.
(01:32:31) (anglondn) wow
(01:32:36) (anglondn) and it did?
(01:32:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep, I thought of your dream when I was getting these notes together, VJ.
(01:32:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I saw a time when the cities wouldn't exist in their present state. During the changes the most dangerous places will be near cities with nuclear and chemical plants. But all major cities will experience a breakdown in services. In my dreams, I've seen great garbage piles on the streets, the electric service out of order because of storms and earthquakes, broken water mains, and no more gasoline because of a major breakdown of the system.
(01:32:59) (Raleigh) as ec sayz mississippi wil flow backwardz as well walks
(01:33:02) (vjh) not yet. It's going to be drastic earth changes when it does.
(01:33:16) (vjh) My grandmother was a good woman and highly respected.
(01:33:41) (Raleigh) who said these things walks?
(01:33:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) It did, Ral. When Hurricane Katrina came ashore, the Mississippi River flowed backwards for a time.
(01:33:56) (Raleigh) huh ok walks yes
(01:33:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Sun Bear - Chippewa Holy Man.
(01:34:09) (Raleigh) k
(01:34:30) (anglondn) all that is now pretty much
(01:34:45) (Raleigh) what angie
(01:35:03) (Raleigh) ?
(01:35:09) (anglondn) what WIS just said
(01:35:19) (Raleigh) pardon me walks continue ok
(01:35:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Read what I just posted, very carefully. He saw that back in the 1970s. And that is a description of New Orleans, post Katrina, if I have ever heard one!
(01:35:38) (Raleigh) hmmmm
(01:36:04) (Von) intereing WIS
(01:36:08) (Raleigh) yes w
(01:36:11) (Raleigh) very
(01:36:12) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In my dreams, I've seen great garbage piles on the streets, the electric service out of order because of storms and earthquakes, broken water mains, and no more gasoline because of a major breakdown of the system.
(01:36:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) See?
(01:36:22) (Von) interesting
(01:36:35) (anglondn) yes
(01:36:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I also foresee race riots in the big cities, with street gangs engaged in uncontrolled fighting against each other, using guns to get what they want. When there is no money to pay their salaries, the police will not be there to protect the people in the city.
(01:37:04) (Raleigh) sun bear?
(01:37:15) (Raleigh) your dreamz walks?
(01:37:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes, this is what Sun Bear - Chippewa Holy Man - saw. in the 1970s and earlier.
(01:37:32) (anglondn) every man for himself,almost
(01:37:40) (Raleigh) k ty
(01:37:45) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Instead, in one of my dreams, I saw the police banded together in groups calling themselves the 'Brothers of the Gun.' They were using their guns to take whatever they wanted. This is already happening in other parts of the world...
(01:38:15) (anglondn) didnt know that
(01:38:25) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I see the cities being hit by major epidemics caused by bad water, toxic chemicals, or other things...
(01:38:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Bird Flu?
(01:38:41) (Raleigh) i just escaped from the gun captitol of idaho ang
(01:38:49) (Raleigh) you bet now \
(01:39:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "In my dreams, I've also seen wheat crops that had rusted. They had candy-like clumps of rust, a serious disease that was destroying the crops. There were great black birds, like crows or vultures, just waiting.
(01:40:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With nothing left to eat, these birds were scavenging bodies as humans died... In my dreams I see diseases like this continuing to cause great destruction...
(01:40:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Again, Bird Flu perhaps?
(01:40:34) (anglondn) yep
(01:40:52) (Raleigh) gee ive not studied this flu
(01:41:00) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "In my dreams I've also seen small bands of people living very close to the Earth. I saw that other people would come to join them, and they would embrace these newcomers.
(01:41:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) All they said to them was, 'You have survived.' There were no more 'isms' in the world - not Catholicism, not Communism, nothing. We were all just human beings living on the Earth in a sacred manner...
(01:41:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I see about one-fourth of the world's population surviving. All those who do survive will come through with a higher level of consciousness..."
(01:41:58) (Raleigh) yes ok for the 1000
(01:42:06) (Raleigh) years ok
(01:42:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I saw people living together in groups sharing and helping each other, Indian and non-Indian alike. I saw the Earth Mother being healed as people began to show real love for the land.
(01:42:40) (Host-WalksInSpirit) But first I saw whole cities become desolate because there was no way left for people to support themselves. I wondered at this when this nation seemed to be all-powerful. Then I saw the vision of the great drought years, a time when the Earth Mother would withhold all increase...
(01:42:45) (Raleigh) well this is the millenia walks / :)
(01:42:46) (Von) beautiful WIS
(01:43:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "I saw camps of people around natural water, such as rivers, creeks, and springs, working hard to produce their food, but thankful to be alive, for only here and there were small bands of people alive, and they were thankful to the Great Spirit that they were.
(01:43:25) (Raleigh) yes but walks
(01:43:39) (Raleigh) hmmm k
(01:43:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When people came together they embraced with love, even those who were strangers before that moment, because they knew.
(01:44:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "There were only a few people surviving these changes. I've seen major destruction, and people fleeing great cities, and other people dying from pollution, and cities abandoned, and I wondered how, until these last few years when I see California and other places which no longer have the water, electricity, or natural gases to care for their cities.
(01:44:28) (Raleigh) knew?
(01:44:32) (Anonymous) is there anything in the prophecies that sounds like a 1000 year rule by jesus and his 144000 saints
(01:44:33) (Anonymous) i think cayce speaks of such
(01:44:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Knew, as in they recognized each other... in a spiritual sense.
(01:45:08) (Raleigh) yes ok ty
(01:45:15) (ron) revelation
(01:45:45) (Von) I getter get my boat back out and get ready then
(01:45:55) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yes, there are several paralells between Sun Bear's visions and the Cayce prophecies. That's one reason I decided to share this. :-)
(01:46:02) (ron) when satan is suppresed...allowing those that wish for spiritual progress will be able to do so in this personal quest
(01:46:03) (Anonymous) yes revelation too but many parts of revelation cayce says can be an inner symbolic manfestation rather than external in the world
(01:46:17) (Raleigh) ok ron
(01:46:21) (anglondn) this almost sounds like the time when the government makes everyone get a computer chip implanted in theyre skin
(01:46:36) (Anonymous) a.r.e. has a book out of a special series of cayce readings on revelation
(01:46:39) (ron) true...collectively by the 12th chapter
(01:46:42) (Raleigh) yes the anti christ will impersonate first
(01:46:44) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Yep
(01:46:46) (ron) thereafter
(01:46:48) (Raleigh) dont forget this ok
(01:47:11) (anglondn) those with a chip recieve and those without dont
(01:47:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Bible says we'll be able to know who the Anti-Christ is, though.
(01:47:24) (Host-WalksInSpirit) "Then I understood what I saw before. We were told that our people would lay as if dead in the dust, and then we would rise up on the land again. We were told that the sons and daughters of the possessors of our land would come to us and accept our ways, and that we would live together as one people sharing the land and sowing love and understanding for each other."
(01:47:28) (Raleigh) well mot will not
(01:47:30) (ron) rather, collectively starting at the 12th chapter i believe...from an ARE tpe that i have
(01:47:34) (anglondn) i dont want that chip
(01:47:36) (Raleigh) jc as say
(01:48:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Source: Sun Bear & Wabun Wind: Black Dawn/Bright Day; 1990, Bear Tribe Publ., WA
(01:48:03) (Raleigh) most will see jc
(01:48:04) (Raleigh) on
(01:48:13) (anglondn) theyre already giving it to inmates in prison in china
(01:48:19) (Raleigh) most will see jc like
(01:48:20) (Anonymous) 666 some say is a numerical gemaria ? symbol for the conscious mind that gets disassociated with a balancing subconscious mind by way of conscious abuse of knowledge for self aggrandizement
(01:48:20) (Host-WalksInSpirit) I was wrong on the date of the book. It was written in 1990. :-)
(01:48:25) (Raleigh) on cnn
(01:48:32) (Raleigh) its a lie
(01:48:37) (Raleigh) dang it
(01:48:41) (Raleigh) ok
(01:48:50) (Anonymous) and when the number for the subconscious is added properly to 666 it is the number of the christ mind
01:49:50) (ron) some have interpreted the 666 as the number of man
(01:49:54) (Raleigh) all will see as jesus preforming miricles / clear debt as well / for all / thisa ios all a lie
(01:49:58) (Raleigh) ----
(01:50:10) (Raleigh) most will be fooled by this 1
(01:50:11) (Raleigh) ---
(01:50:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ok, now, I have an article here where they tell of Sun Bear predicting Mt. St. Helens and also Mt. Ranier's eruptions.
(01:50:21) (Raleigh) this cherub
(01:50:23) (ron) equals 9...violent ending as is typical with all endings
(01:50:24) (Raleigh) lucifer
(01:50:58) (anglondn) tru ron
(01:50:59) (Raleigh) gee walks
(01:51:01) (Anonymous) well man's fallen nature that is driven by artificial self justification when it reaches a certain negative level perhaps
(01:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then, we'll discuss what we've covered.
(01:51:20) (Raleigh) ok w
