Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 5, 2006 22:05:18 GMT -5
Creating Your Reality Chat: 04-05-06
"People in hell want ice water, too!"
(09:30:16) (Rosie) My mother, Anna, or Ann as her friends knew her, was a wonderful woman and I would say nothing to disparage her name. But she suffered from something that most of us suffer from, too.
(09:30:51) (Rosie) We’ve forgotten who we are.
(09:31:34) (Rosie) Anyway. We’ve forgotten that we are creative beings in the mold of our maker and that like our maker we can create any thing, any circumstance we desire.
(09:32:09) (Rosie) I realize some may disagree with that sentiment, but allow me to continue...
(09:32:23) (Rosie) We’ve been brainwashed by a well meaning society, and that includes our parents, which has forgotten, too.
(09:32:40) (Richard) Givin enough Elmers Glue and a good sharp... but safe... pair of scissors.
(09:32:48) (Rosie) lol
(09:33:01) (Rosie) They have led us to believe that we are swept along by circumstances often beyond our control - that some people are the haves, some the have nots, and we should just accept our lot whatever that is.
(09:33:47) (Rosie) My mother had a saying she repeated so often that I never forgot it. Literally. And I have have to say I am guilty of living by the thoughts of lack it provided because I knew no better.
(09:34:21) (Rosie) Whenever I would say that I wanted something that was clearly beyond my mother’s means to provide, which was pretty much anything beyond the basics, her standard reply was, “People in hell want ice water, too!”
(09:34:40) (Richard) Me too... but for some reason I just thought that there must be a better way then just in the middle..
(09:35:06) (Rosie) The comment usually produced a laugh, as was intended. But the message was clear nonetheless. “We don’t have the money and we likely won’t have the money because that is our lot in life. So deal with it.”
(09:35:58) (Rosie) feel free to interject at any time...I don't want this to be a lecture series :o)
(09:36:27) (Rosie) Guess what comment I found myself using on my own kids? And so the “tradition” was carried on without the least notion that perhaps it didn’t have to be that way. I have always expected “less” and that’s exactly what I’ve gotten, at least where money is concerned.
(09:36:47) (Richard) There can be more read from that Rosie... Focus on the things money can't do for instance... Can't buy me love.
(09:37:13) (Rosie) yes, richard...that's why the disclaimer at the end :o)
(09:37:15) (Lynn) Yeah, it can so buy love. Get a puppy out of the pound.
(09:37:21) (Rosie) LOL
(09:37:37) (Richard) Pick one off the street.
(09:37:43) (Rosie) As clearly as that comment was burned on my brain, so was an incident involving a neighbor friend whose family had all the money we did not seem to have.
(09:37:49) (Lynn) yes!
(09:38:09) (Rosie) I was quite young when this happened and yet it made me sit up and take note. It was one of a series of incidents throughout my early life that I questioned over and over and that made no sense to me. Such incidents ultimately led me to the world of metaphysics and, finally, to answers that finally DID make some sense.
(09:38:45) (janie) (*whispering*......NOW, we'll find out the secret to the Rosie phenomenon!!)
(09:38:52) (Richard) There you go... the mother of invention.
(09:38:58) (Rosie) This neighbor friend, Johnny, and his siblings had everything they wanted, including a trampoline and a cotton candy-making machine, both of which I coveted.
(09:39:19) (Rosie) Needless to say, I spent a lot of time at THEIR house! Heehee!
(09:39:50) (Lynn) so you found a way to get what you ´´coveted´´.
(09:39:51) (Rosie) One time there was a drawing at the neighborhood drug store for a new bicycle. I NEEDED this bicycle. I WANTED this bicycle. I PRAYED for this bicycle.
(09:40:19) (Rosie) The day of the drawing came. Guess who won? Johnny! The one person I knew who absolutely did not NEED it.
(09:40:52) (Rosie) . I was dumbfounded. I was cornfused. My head was spinning.
(09:41:07) (Richard) I got the second prize... A transitor radio...
(09:41:09) (Rosie) HOW could this happen? It wasn’t FAIR! It didn’t make sense! Why do some people, like Johnny, have all the luck, get everything they want, and others, like ME, get NOTHING?!?!? Repeatedly!?!?!
(09:41:34) (Rosie) good for you, richard! :o)
(09:41:53) (janie) Because he wasn't focused on the lack of anything, 'cause he already 'had it all'?
(09:42:01) (Rosie) Now, of course, I realize that he had something else I didn’t. The confidence, the faith, the belief that he COULD have everything he wanted. He had everything he wanted up until now, so why not this?
(09:42:17) (Rosie) right on there, janie!
(09:42:37) (Rosie) It shouldn’t be surprising to any of us that his belief created his reality.
(09:42:57) (Richard) It was filled with challange Rosie... Took a 4 and half vote battery... They don't make such things so I , with a little help from Uncle finally found that a 9 vote battery work great,.. Took about a year to find that out.
(09:43:37) (Rosie) you kept plugging, didn't ya?.
(09:44:00) (Rosie) I, on the other hand, was operating from a feeling of and a belief in lack, of not ever having what I wanted. No amount of superficial confidence in myself or God or the druggist or the Fates that the bicycle would be delivered to me could supercede my underlying lack of faith that I deserved or could have that bicycle.
(09:44:38) (Richard) Had no choice... it was a really neat leather covered state of the 1958 art.
(09:44:46) (Rosie) lol
(09:45:15) (Lynn) I created a favorite affirmation off of a similar experience , Rosie.
(09:45:24) (Lynn) What Lynn wants, Lynn gets. lol
(09:45:29) (Rosie) Those youthful memories and the book “Ask and It Is Given. Learning to Manifest Your Desires,” by Esther and Jerry Hicks, are the basis for what led me to choose “Creating Your Reality” as my chat topic.
(09:45:37) (janie) heehee! GOOd one, Lynn! :o)
(09:45:40) (Rosie) LOL lynn
(09:45:53) (Lynn) Gods spoiled kid
(09:46:03) (Rosie) I thought about focusing on "Ideals
(09:46:14) (Rosie) ...which Roz thought was a good idea, at least at first
(09:46:31) (Richard) Anyway... my solution was to withdraw into the two acre field behind my house and fly my 35 cent kite till it was nothing but a couple of sticks with some paper flaing.
(09:46:37) (Rosie) I kept dancing around what I really wanted to do by trying to convince myself something else would be better.
(09:46:48) (Rosie) But everything else led me back to this
(09:47:12) (Rosie) So I'm goin' with it.
(09:47:22) (Rosie) Of course I have read and learned many things in the intervening years about how we do create our own reality. (I read recently that that phrase was coined in the Seth books.)
(09:47:24) (Roz) you go girl
(09:47:45) (Lynn) I wanted such a class opic, Rosie. See. what lynn wants lynn gets lee lee
(09:47:46) (WalksInSpirit) I think it's a great topic! And you're so right. We have forgotten who we are.
(09:48:36) (Rosie) LOL...with that attitude you'll get it all right! ;o)
(09:48:49) (Richard) I think though that we have a reality that is pre-made and we must learn the rules of how to alter it to our own, and somewhat predistand, altering ideal.
(09:49:23) (Rosie) But still I have failed to apply myself, dedicate myself to that end. It’s true I have created for myself many things for which I am grateful…this chat and you folks being among them. But it’s been strictly hit and miss along the way. And finances are STILL a problem as I’m sure they are for many of you.
(09:49:51) (Richard) Fitting it into the peaceful coexistance that allows true spiritual growth.
(09:50:38) (Rosie) The beauty of this is, I think, that you have to have spiritual growth to make it work.
(09:50:45) (Lynn) cancel, finances WERE a problem. future is clear, rosie
(09:50:57) (Richard) Got that right... filed electronicly Jan 20 and I still have yet to see my Income tax return.
(09:50:59) (Rosie) Yes indeed, Lynn!
(09:51:23) (janie) What puzzles me....is that one of the BIG messages in the Bible (in my opinion) is when Jesus says something to the effect of: "What I can do, you can do also". Too bad churches don't focus on that ONE thing right from the start.....at least most folks would get an early start on thinking that there are NO limitations.....
(09:51:43) (Roz) Seek ye first the Kingdom and all these thng wil be added unto you?
(09:51:43) (Rosie) oh now you're playin' my trump card before *EYE* get to! LOL
(09:52:05) (janie) oops! Sorry, Ro!
(09:52:18) (Richard) Been wanting to get creative with the IRS... Mailman... and thought maybe if I turn my mailbox upside down it will some how render up my check.
(09:52:26) (Roz) things will be added*
(09:52:30) (janie) *zipping my big mouth (fingers) shut*
(09:52:31) (merri) thankyou for that statement Richard, Today I was wondering the samething!
(09:52:42) (Cris) Song: I am free I am unlimited there are no strings that bind me. I am free I am unlinited today......
(09:53:00) (Rosie) LOL
(09:53:04) (Rosie) Jesus is the one person who, for me, provides the bridge between the bicycle incident and the Hick’s book. According to the Bible he made a promise to this effect: What I do you can do, and more.
(09:53:41) (Rosie) The statement is pretty clear cut. If what he said is true and was not colored by those who copied and recopied it, then we CAN turn water to wine. We CAN walk on water. We CAN heal the sick. And we CAN create our own reality, including universal abundance in all aspects of our lives, especially the spiritual.
(09:54:03) (Lynn) People make Gods will a barrier. Heck!! God WANTS us to have good things.
(09:54:21) (Rosie) That's the premise, Lynn, yes :o)
(09:54:22) (Richard) There is the thing about inspiration that gets in my way... I tend to need a good reason to make a change.. Where does this reason come from. or witch one should I pick as the frontrunner.
(09:54:45) (Cris) It also means making use of opportunities in your life to do better
(09:54:48) (Rosie) that's your brainwashed ego talkin' richard
(09:55:19) (Richard) Yeah but you should see what I been washing it in.
(09:55:37) (Rosie) why do you need a reason, richard, if it's something you desire?
(09:55:56) (Cris) Everyone laughed at me when my company offered computer classes and I signed up and took everyone I could. I knew if AI didn't learn then I might be unemloyable later
(09:56:24) (Richard) A good question.... I think it stems from the feeling that I can do anything... so where do we start.
(09:56:32) (Rosie) right, cris...abudance comes in many forms and we do have to help ourselves, like you say
(09:56:53) (Roz) do what you see to do
(09:57:11) (Lynn) Start by being God´s co pilot. God usually says yes.
(09:57:20) (Rosie) I feel the reason my creations have not always been what I intended is that I was ignorant and, again, I did not apply myself. I’ve tried really hard to do what’s right, to think positively. But that wasn’t enough.
(09:57:27) (Roz) trust your intuition
(09:57:43) (Cris) How many people are being taught to see opportunities for what they are?
(09:57:57) (Rosie) not enough
(09:58:08) (Lynn) Or to get creative about getting what they want
(09:58:12) (Lynn) I can walk on water
(09:58:23) (Cris) For many of us they came well disguised as hard work
(09:58:23) (Rosie) jet ski? ;o)
(09:58:30) (Lynn) Throw a glass full of water on¡ the floor and watch me walk. lol
(09:58:57) (Rosie) reminds me of janie's favorite movie
(09:58:59) (janie) heeheee@Lynn!
(09:59:08) (Rosie) "Being There"
(09:59:09) (Richard) I noticed for instance the other day during meditation that I had a canvas in front of my minds eye... it was white but not from emptyness but from haveing every picture of every thing I have seen and will see and everything unseen. if that makes any since.
(09:59:09) (janie) :o) "Being There"
(09:59:24) (Lynn) does
(09:59:33) (Rosie) Peter Sellers' character was pure, spiritual
(09:59:52) (Cris) It does Richard
(10:00:02) (Richard) Like a slab of marble... I have to remove everything that is not a picture.
(10:01:39) (Rosie) What I like about the Hicks’s book is that it spells out plainly and in great detail the blueprint for creating what you want in every moment.
(10:02:07) (Rosie) And it offers plenty of remedial and safety net lessons for those of us who because of our negative conditioning are bound to fall off the wagon, to slip up – slip down is probably the more appropriate term.
(10:03:02) (Rosie) Because, like me in the bicycle incident, we're saying or thinking one thing while feeling something else, and that blocks our ability to create
(10:03:04) (Richard) It is very hard to achive anything without inspiration.
(10:03:28) (Rosie) create the things we really want, anyway, and not what we fear
(10:03:52) (Lynn) so mix yourself up a good batch of inspiration, Richard.
(10:04:06) (Rosie) he did win the radio :o)
(10:04:20) (Lynn) yes, build on past success
(10:04:35) (Lynn) make a big deal emotional big deal everytime you gt what tyou want
(10:04:41) (Rosie) janie, say something
(10:05:19) (Richard) From the kite and the radio I learned to use what I had in hand and held to that untill it was used up... I feel that I am doing life a little like that too..
(10:05:30) (Rosie) exactly, lynn..it helps keep your spirit, your inspiration, at the level that's required to do it again
(10:05:35) (Lynn) good
(10:06:14) (janie) For me, it seems that if I DO end up manifesting something, I have to make sure I acknowledge it for being 'the answer to my asking' and not shuck it off as 'just got lucky this time'.....
(10:06:15) (Lynn) nothing succeeds like success so create yourself a whole lot of success
(10:06:40) (Lynn) exactly
(10:07:08) (janie) That's something I'm working on a LOT....trying to consciously 'be thankful' for the answers to my asking.
(10:07:31) (Lynn) the more you are thankful, the more you have to be thankful for, janie
(10:07:39) (janie) .....AND to ALLOW myself to HAVE IT when it arrives!
(10:07:57) (Rosie) that's a key...recognizing all the things you already have that you should be grateful for
(10:08:06) (Cris) I used to have a freind raising her children alone that said anytime she got down to the last of her money she knew she could go to bingo and always win enough to feed her kids - she relied on this for years
(10:08:10) (Rosie) that, too, janie :o)
(10:08:18) (Richard) I suppose that folks in Hell.. by the way the literal meaning of Hell from the old english is A whole in the ground... for instance the English would be their potatoes in Hell for the Winter.
(10:08:37) (Rosie) I admire people like that, cris...that kind of attitude has been hard for me to maintain
(10:08:48) (Rosie) I have a friend who's the same way
(10:08:57) (Richard) So we might be saying that we create our on hole in the ground.
(10:09:04) (Lynn) yes
(10:09:08) (Rosie) LOL richard
(10:09:20) (Rosie) oh my...
(10:09:58) (Rosie) Anyway, the material I hope to present is based in spirit. None of the information is anything we haven’t already learned through hundreds of sources from books to saviors to prophets like Edgar Cayce.
(10:10:34) (ernie) cool
(10:10:41) (ernie) you shure /
(10:10:42) (ernie) \/
(10:10:44) (ernie) /?
(10:10:45) (Rosie) In fact we were only using those people and devices to remember what we simply forgot when we were born and the vail (vale?) closed behind us: that we create every moment of our reality, consciously or unconsciously.
(10:11:20) (Richard) Those people were useing me too.
(10:11:37) (Rosie) My hope is that you will be willing to set aside any unbeliefs you may have and make this journey with me - use the concepts in this book with reinforcement from other sources, including Cayce. I believe that together we have the ability to help each other create truly wonderful things for ourselves, our families, our friends, and our world.
(10:11:37) (Lynn) Be it unto you according to your belief is what Jesus said.
(10:11:49) (ernie) r unconsciusly or consciously
(10:12:13) (Rosie) And maybe you can help me finally get that bicycle! :o)
(10:12:58) (Roz) I think we must be very cautious about what we "want"
(10:13:04) (Richard) Well folks... the cup of jo didn't work.. Thanks Rosie... very good conversation tonight, keep it up. May all incometax returns come quickly... later.
(10:13:15) (Bill) want is not a good term
(10:13:27) (Roz) exackle Bill
(10:13:55) (Rosie) Bill, as janie and I mentioned the other night, this book doesn't make a big deal out of using the term "want" although I understand where you're coming from.
(10:14:14) (Rosie) I've decided it's best not to fear the term
(10:14:14) (Lynn) right, Bill. As long as we WANT we believe we do NOT have.
(10:14:32) (Lynn) ok
(10:14:32) (Cris) I keep telling Ken not to wonder what ailment he is getting next but he always does - I think that is partly why he is so ill - he expects it
(10:14:57) (WalksInSpirit) Good point, Cris
(10:15:02) (janie) Could be, Cris.....sadly!
(10:15:07) (Cris) I know I can't get sick or there would be no help for either of us
(10:15:30) (Cris) Besides not wanting to be ill
(10:15:31) (Rosie) I agree with you roz, when you say we should be careful with what we want. On the other hand, I think if we go about it the right way we have nothing to fear.
(10:16:06) (janie) This is an exciting topic, Rosie.....helping us work on the cultural/societal blocks we have made for ourselves.....
(10:16:11) (Rosie) It's our intent that counts
(10:16:17) (Lynn) I am surrounded in the white light of God´s perfect protection. And God gave me a censor to my prayers.
(10:16:27) (merri) went thru a period like that also Cris, couldn't afford to miss a day's work,,,therefore was never sick
(10:16:34) (Bill) just live in such a way that all things needed will be there?
(10:16:49) (Rosie) The blocks are much larger than we realize, janie
(10:17:03) (Cris) I was taught that when you want to have something you need to visualize it coming in your life in a healthy way
(10:17:20) (Rosie) who taught you that, cris?
(10:17:28) (Roz) we have everything we "need" not just what we "want"
(10:17:30) (merri) and it works Cris
(10:18:04) (Roz) thanks giving is a huge part
(10:18:07) (ernie) i got what you need
(10:18:13) (ernie) oops
(10:18:13) (Rosie) agreed, roz
(10:18:23) (Cris) I took an alpha awareness course some years back
(10:19:05) (Bill) in the past there have been many things i'd like to have so if i could justify owning them i worked hard and manifested them with cash
(10:19:44) (Roz) thats the way it works for me too Bill
(10:19:45) (merri) but not everything one wants can be bought, Bill
(09:30:51) (Rosie) We’ve forgotten who we are.
(09:31:34) (Rosie) Anyway. We’ve forgotten that we are creative beings in the mold of our maker and that like our maker we can create any thing, any circumstance we desire.
(09:32:09) (Rosie) I realize some may disagree with that sentiment, but allow me to continue...
(09:32:23) (Rosie) We’ve been brainwashed by a well meaning society, and that includes our parents, which has forgotten, too.
(09:32:40) (Richard) Givin enough Elmers Glue and a good sharp... but safe... pair of scissors.
(09:32:48) (Rosie) lol
(09:33:01) (Rosie) They have led us to believe that we are swept along by circumstances often beyond our control - that some people are the haves, some the have nots, and we should just accept our lot whatever that is.
(09:33:47) (Rosie) My mother had a saying she repeated so often that I never forgot it. Literally. And I have have to say I am guilty of living by the thoughts of lack it provided because I knew no better.
(09:34:21) (Rosie) Whenever I would say that I wanted something that was clearly beyond my mother’s means to provide, which was pretty much anything beyond the basics, her standard reply was, “People in hell want ice water, too!”
(09:34:40) (Richard) Me too... but for some reason I just thought that there must be a better way then just in the middle..
(09:35:06) (Rosie) The comment usually produced a laugh, as was intended. But the message was clear nonetheless. “We don’t have the money and we likely won’t have the money because that is our lot in life. So deal with it.”
(09:35:58) (Rosie) feel free to interject at any time...I don't want this to be a lecture series :o)
(09:36:27) (Rosie) Guess what comment I found myself using on my own kids? And so the “tradition” was carried on without the least notion that perhaps it didn’t have to be that way. I have always expected “less” and that’s exactly what I’ve gotten, at least where money is concerned.
(09:36:47) (Richard) There can be more read from that Rosie... Focus on the things money can't do for instance... Can't buy me love.
(09:37:13) (Rosie) yes, richard...that's why the disclaimer at the end :o)
(09:37:15) (Lynn) Yeah, it can so buy love. Get a puppy out of the pound.
(09:37:21) (Rosie) LOL
(09:37:37) (Richard) Pick one off the street.
(09:37:43) (Rosie) As clearly as that comment was burned on my brain, so was an incident involving a neighbor friend whose family had all the money we did not seem to have.
(09:37:49) (Lynn) yes!
(09:38:09) (Rosie) I was quite young when this happened and yet it made me sit up and take note. It was one of a series of incidents throughout my early life that I questioned over and over and that made no sense to me. Such incidents ultimately led me to the world of metaphysics and, finally, to answers that finally DID make some sense.
(09:38:45) (janie) (*whispering*......NOW, we'll find out the secret to the Rosie phenomenon!!)
(09:38:52) (Richard) There you go... the mother of invention.
(09:38:58) (Rosie) This neighbor friend, Johnny, and his siblings had everything they wanted, including a trampoline and a cotton candy-making machine, both of which I coveted.
(09:39:19) (Rosie) Needless to say, I spent a lot of time at THEIR house! Heehee!
(09:39:50) (Lynn) so you found a way to get what you ´´coveted´´.
(09:39:51) (Rosie) One time there was a drawing at the neighborhood drug store for a new bicycle. I NEEDED this bicycle. I WANTED this bicycle. I PRAYED for this bicycle.
(09:40:19) (Rosie) The day of the drawing came. Guess who won? Johnny! The one person I knew who absolutely did not NEED it.
(09:40:52) (Rosie) . I was dumbfounded. I was cornfused. My head was spinning.
(09:41:07) (Richard) I got the second prize... A transitor radio...
(09:41:09) (Rosie) HOW could this happen? It wasn’t FAIR! It didn’t make sense! Why do some people, like Johnny, have all the luck, get everything they want, and others, like ME, get NOTHING?!?!? Repeatedly!?!?!
(09:41:34) (Rosie) good for you, richard! :o)
(09:41:53) (janie) Because he wasn't focused on the lack of anything, 'cause he already 'had it all'?
(09:42:01) (Rosie) Now, of course, I realize that he had something else I didn’t. The confidence, the faith, the belief that he COULD have everything he wanted. He had everything he wanted up until now, so why not this?
(09:42:17) (Rosie) right on there, janie!
(09:42:37) (Rosie) It shouldn’t be surprising to any of us that his belief created his reality.
(09:42:57) (Richard) It was filled with challange Rosie... Took a 4 and half vote battery... They don't make such things so I , with a little help from Uncle finally found that a 9 vote battery work great,.. Took about a year to find that out.
(09:43:37) (Rosie) you kept plugging, didn't ya?.
(09:44:00) (Rosie) I, on the other hand, was operating from a feeling of and a belief in lack, of not ever having what I wanted. No amount of superficial confidence in myself or God or the druggist or the Fates that the bicycle would be delivered to me could supercede my underlying lack of faith that I deserved or could have that bicycle.
(09:44:38) (Richard) Had no choice... it was a really neat leather covered state of the 1958 art.
(09:44:46) (Rosie) lol
(09:45:15) (Lynn) I created a favorite affirmation off of a similar experience , Rosie.
(09:45:24) (Lynn) What Lynn wants, Lynn gets. lol
(09:45:29) (Rosie) Those youthful memories and the book “Ask and It Is Given. Learning to Manifest Your Desires,” by Esther and Jerry Hicks, are the basis for what led me to choose “Creating Your Reality” as my chat topic.
(09:45:37) (janie) heehee! GOOd one, Lynn! :o)
(09:45:40) (Rosie) LOL lynn
(09:45:53) (Lynn) Gods spoiled kid
(09:46:03) (Rosie) I thought about focusing on "Ideals
(09:46:14) (Rosie) ...which Roz thought was a good idea, at least at first
(09:46:31) (Richard) Anyway... my solution was to withdraw into the two acre field behind my house and fly my 35 cent kite till it was nothing but a couple of sticks with some paper flaing.
(09:46:37) (Rosie) I kept dancing around what I really wanted to do by trying to convince myself something else would be better.
(09:46:48) (Rosie) But everything else led me back to this
(09:47:12) (Rosie) So I'm goin' with it.
(09:47:22) (Rosie) Of course I have read and learned many things in the intervening years about how we do create our own reality. (I read recently that that phrase was coined in the Seth books.)
(09:47:24) (Roz) you go girl
(09:47:45) (Lynn) I wanted such a class opic, Rosie. See. what lynn wants lynn gets lee lee
(09:47:46) (WalksInSpirit) I think it's a great topic! And you're so right. We have forgotten who we are.
(09:48:36) (Rosie) LOL...with that attitude you'll get it all right! ;o)
(09:48:49) (Richard) I think though that we have a reality that is pre-made and we must learn the rules of how to alter it to our own, and somewhat predistand, altering ideal.
(09:49:23) (Rosie) But still I have failed to apply myself, dedicate myself to that end. It’s true I have created for myself many things for which I am grateful…this chat and you folks being among them. But it’s been strictly hit and miss along the way. And finances are STILL a problem as I’m sure they are for many of you.
(09:49:51) (Richard) Fitting it into the peaceful coexistance that allows true spiritual growth.
(09:50:38) (Rosie) The beauty of this is, I think, that you have to have spiritual growth to make it work.
(09:50:45) (Lynn) cancel, finances WERE a problem. future is clear, rosie
(09:50:57) (Richard) Got that right... filed electronicly Jan 20 and I still have yet to see my Income tax return.
(09:50:59) (Rosie) Yes indeed, Lynn!
(09:51:23) (janie) What puzzles me....is that one of the BIG messages in the Bible (in my opinion) is when Jesus says something to the effect of: "What I can do, you can do also". Too bad churches don't focus on that ONE thing right from the start.....at least most folks would get an early start on thinking that there are NO limitations.....
(09:51:43) (Roz) Seek ye first the Kingdom and all these thng wil be added unto you?
(09:51:43) (Rosie) oh now you're playin' my trump card before *EYE* get to! LOL
(09:52:05) (janie) oops! Sorry, Ro!
(09:52:18) (Richard) Been wanting to get creative with the IRS... Mailman... and thought maybe if I turn my mailbox upside down it will some how render up my check.
(09:52:26) (Roz) things will be added*
(09:52:30) (janie) *zipping my big mouth (fingers) shut*
(09:52:31) (merri) thankyou for that statement Richard, Today I was wondering the samething!
(09:52:42) (Cris) Song: I am free I am unlimited there are no strings that bind me. I am free I am unlinited today......
(09:53:00) (Rosie) LOL
(09:53:04) (Rosie) Jesus is the one person who, for me, provides the bridge between the bicycle incident and the Hick’s book. According to the Bible he made a promise to this effect: What I do you can do, and more.
(09:53:41) (Rosie) The statement is pretty clear cut. If what he said is true and was not colored by those who copied and recopied it, then we CAN turn water to wine. We CAN walk on water. We CAN heal the sick. And we CAN create our own reality, including universal abundance in all aspects of our lives, especially the spiritual.
(09:54:03) (Lynn) People make Gods will a barrier. Heck!! God WANTS us to have good things.
(09:54:21) (Rosie) That's the premise, Lynn, yes :o)
(09:54:22) (Richard) There is the thing about inspiration that gets in my way... I tend to need a good reason to make a change.. Where does this reason come from. or witch one should I pick as the frontrunner.
(09:54:45) (Cris) It also means making use of opportunities in your life to do better
(09:54:48) (Rosie) that's your brainwashed ego talkin' richard
(09:55:19) (Richard) Yeah but you should see what I been washing it in.
(09:55:37) (Rosie) why do you need a reason, richard, if it's something you desire?
(09:55:56) (Cris) Everyone laughed at me when my company offered computer classes and I signed up and took everyone I could. I knew if AI didn't learn then I might be unemloyable later
(09:56:24) (Richard) A good question.... I think it stems from the feeling that I can do anything... so where do we start.
(09:56:32) (Rosie) right, cris...abudance comes in many forms and we do have to help ourselves, like you say
(09:56:53) (Roz) do what you see to do
(09:57:11) (Lynn) Start by being God´s co pilot. God usually says yes.
(09:57:20) (Rosie) I feel the reason my creations have not always been what I intended is that I was ignorant and, again, I did not apply myself. I’ve tried really hard to do what’s right, to think positively. But that wasn’t enough.
(09:57:27) (Roz) trust your intuition
(09:57:43) (Cris) How many people are being taught to see opportunities for what they are?
(09:57:57) (Rosie) not enough
(09:58:08) (Lynn) Or to get creative about getting what they want
(09:58:12) (Lynn) I can walk on water
(09:58:23) (Cris) For many of us they came well disguised as hard work
(09:58:23) (Rosie) jet ski? ;o)
(09:58:30) (Lynn) Throw a glass full of water on¡ the floor and watch me walk. lol
(09:58:57) (Rosie) reminds me of janie's favorite movie
(09:58:59) (janie) heeheee@Lynn!
(09:59:08) (Rosie) "Being There"
(09:59:09) (Richard) I noticed for instance the other day during meditation that I had a canvas in front of my minds eye... it was white but not from emptyness but from haveing every picture of every thing I have seen and will see and everything unseen. if that makes any since.
(09:59:09) (janie) :o) "Being There"
(09:59:24) (Lynn) does
(09:59:33) (Rosie) Peter Sellers' character was pure, spiritual
(09:59:52) (Cris) It does Richard
(10:00:02) (Richard) Like a slab of marble... I have to remove everything that is not a picture.
(10:01:39) (Rosie) What I like about the Hicks’s book is that it spells out plainly and in great detail the blueprint for creating what you want in every moment.
(10:02:07) (Rosie) And it offers plenty of remedial and safety net lessons for those of us who because of our negative conditioning are bound to fall off the wagon, to slip up – slip down is probably the more appropriate term.
(10:03:02) (Rosie) Because, like me in the bicycle incident, we're saying or thinking one thing while feeling something else, and that blocks our ability to create
(10:03:04) (Richard) It is very hard to achive anything without inspiration.
(10:03:28) (Rosie) create the things we really want, anyway, and not what we fear
(10:03:52) (Lynn) so mix yourself up a good batch of inspiration, Richard.
(10:04:06) (Rosie) he did win the radio :o)
(10:04:20) (Lynn) yes, build on past success
(10:04:35) (Lynn) make a big deal emotional big deal everytime you gt what tyou want
(10:04:41) (Rosie) janie, say something
(10:05:19) (Richard) From the kite and the radio I learned to use what I had in hand and held to that untill it was used up... I feel that I am doing life a little like that too..
(10:05:30) (Rosie) exactly, lynn..it helps keep your spirit, your inspiration, at the level that's required to do it again
(10:05:35) (Lynn) good
(10:06:14) (janie) For me, it seems that if I DO end up manifesting something, I have to make sure I acknowledge it for being 'the answer to my asking' and not shuck it off as 'just got lucky this time'.....
(10:06:15) (Lynn) nothing succeeds like success so create yourself a whole lot of success
(10:06:40) (Lynn) exactly
(10:07:08) (janie) That's something I'm working on a LOT....trying to consciously 'be thankful' for the answers to my asking.
(10:07:31) (Lynn) the more you are thankful, the more you have to be thankful for, janie
(10:07:39) (janie) .....AND to ALLOW myself to HAVE IT when it arrives!
(10:07:57) (Rosie) that's a key...recognizing all the things you already have that you should be grateful for
(10:08:06) (Cris) I used to have a freind raising her children alone that said anytime she got down to the last of her money she knew she could go to bingo and always win enough to feed her kids - she relied on this for years
(10:08:10) (Rosie) that, too, janie :o)
(10:08:18) (Richard) I suppose that folks in Hell.. by the way the literal meaning of Hell from the old english is A whole in the ground... for instance the English would be their potatoes in Hell for the Winter.
(10:08:37) (Rosie) I admire people like that, cris...that kind of attitude has been hard for me to maintain
(10:08:48) (Rosie) I have a friend who's the same way
(10:08:57) (Richard) So we might be saying that we create our on hole in the ground.
(10:09:04) (Lynn) yes
(10:09:08) (Rosie) LOL richard
(10:09:20) (Rosie) oh my...
(10:09:58) (Rosie) Anyway, the material I hope to present is based in spirit. None of the information is anything we haven’t already learned through hundreds of sources from books to saviors to prophets like Edgar Cayce.
(10:10:34) (ernie) cool
(10:10:41) (ernie) you shure /
(10:10:42) (ernie) \/
(10:10:44) (ernie) /?
(10:10:45) (Rosie) In fact we were only using those people and devices to remember what we simply forgot when we were born and the vail (vale?) closed behind us: that we create every moment of our reality, consciously or unconsciously.
(10:11:20) (Richard) Those people were useing me too.
(10:11:37) (Rosie) My hope is that you will be willing to set aside any unbeliefs you may have and make this journey with me - use the concepts in this book with reinforcement from other sources, including Cayce. I believe that together we have the ability to help each other create truly wonderful things for ourselves, our families, our friends, and our world.
(10:11:37) (Lynn) Be it unto you according to your belief is what Jesus said.
(10:11:49) (ernie) r unconsciusly or consciously
(10:12:13) (Rosie) And maybe you can help me finally get that bicycle! :o)
(10:12:58) (Roz) I think we must be very cautious about what we "want"
(10:13:04) (Richard) Well folks... the cup of jo didn't work.. Thanks Rosie... very good conversation tonight, keep it up. May all incometax returns come quickly... later.
(10:13:15) (Bill) want is not a good term
(10:13:27) (Roz) exackle Bill
(10:13:55) (Rosie) Bill, as janie and I mentioned the other night, this book doesn't make a big deal out of using the term "want" although I understand where you're coming from.
(10:14:14) (Rosie) I've decided it's best not to fear the term
(10:14:14) (Lynn) right, Bill. As long as we WANT we believe we do NOT have.
(10:14:32) (Lynn) ok
(10:14:32) (Cris) I keep telling Ken not to wonder what ailment he is getting next but he always does - I think that is partly why he is so ill - he expects it
(10:14:57) (WalksInSpirit) Good point, Cris
(10:15:02) (janie) Could be, Cris.....sadly!
(10:15:07) (Cris) I know I can't get sick or there would be no help for either of us
(10:15:30) (Cris) Besides not wanting to be ill
(10:15:31) (Rosie) I agree with you roz, when you say we should be careful with what we want. On the other hand, I think if we go about it the right way we have nothing to fear.
(10:16:06) (janie) This is an exciting topic, Rosie.....helping us work on the cultural/societal blocks we have made for ourselves.....
(10:16:11) (Rosie) It's our intent that counts
(10:16:17) (Lynn) I am surrounded in the white light of God´s perfect protection. And God gave me a censor to my prayers.
(10:16:27) (merri) went thru a period like that also Cris, couldn't afford to miss a day's work,,,therefore was never sick
(10:16:34) (Bill) just live in such a way that all things needed will be there?
(10:16:49) (Rosie) The blocks are much larger than we realize, janie
(10:17:03) (Cris) I was taught that when you want to have something you need to visualize it coming in your life in a healthy way
(10:17:20) (Rosie) who taught you that, cris?
(10:17:28) (Roz) we have everything we "need" not just what we "want"
(10:17:30) (merri) and it works Cris
(10:18:04) (Roz) thanks giving is a huge part
(10:18:07) (ernie) i got what you need
(10:18:13) (ernie) oops
(10:18:13) (Rosie) agreed, roz
(10:18:23) (Cris) I took an alpha awareness course some years back
(10:19:05) (Bill) in the past there have been many things i'd like to have so if i could justify owning them i worked hard and manifested them with cash
(10:19:44) (Roz) thats the way it works for me too Bill
(10:19:45) (merri) but not everything one wants can be bought, Bill