Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 24, 2005 21:37:51 GMT -5
Consciously Creating Circumstances #20: 08-24-05
(08:36:25) (HostLory) FATHER GOD, as we gather together in YOUR name seeking TRUTH, keep us ever mindful of the needs of others. And as we learn to know, love and trust each other help us to keep our hearts filled with divine joy and laughter. We pray in the name of JESUS the CHRIST. Amen.
(08:36:47) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(08:36:51) (Raleigh) amen
(08:36:58) (merri) Amen
(08:37:01) (patricia) Amen
(08:37:01) (Cris) Amen
(08:37:22) (ron) amen
(08:37:33) (HostLory) Do not get the idea that you are using something new and untried. The law of supply through impressing the Universal Mind with your particular needs has been known for ages, but the vast majority of mankind has lost sight of it in their haste to secure their ends through what they consider visible, tangible means,
(08:37:59) (HostLory) relying in false pride upon what they call “their own ability”. Well, our ability, so-called, is simply the measure by which we utilize the vast power within us, whether we do so consciously or unconsciously.
(08:38:31) (HostLory) John Burroughs, whose life was an undoubted success and whose fine qualities made an immortal impress upon human consciousness, sums up the attitude required of the novice who seeks success through individual at-one-ment with the Universal Mind, He says:
(08:40:28) (HostLory) “Serene I fold my hands and wait,
(08:40:54) (HostLory) Nor care for wind, nor tide, nor sea
(08:41:11) (HostLory) I rave no more ‘gainst time or fate,
(08:41:28) (HostLory) For lo, my own shall come to me.”
(08:41:56) (HostLory) In these beautiful lines we find no attempt at limitation. The Universal is not urged to produce results at a given time or place. There is no worry, anxiety or mental distress. Instead, in the next verse, we find his full acquiescence with whatsoever his environment imposes upon him. He says:
(08:42:22) (HostLory) “I stay my haste, I make delays;
(08:42:37) (HostLory) For what avails this eager pace
(08:42:52) (HostLory) I stand amid the eternal ways,
(08:43:10) (HostLory) And what is mine, shall know my face.”
(08:43:38) (HostLory) And then, as though there were some deep, inner diapason of victory, a sustaining sense of triumph over all earthly barriers, the poet sends out upon the ethers to a posterity that shall listen with reverence in years to come, these inspired lines that attain to sheer grandeur:
(08:43:59) (HostLory) “The stars come nightly to the sky;
(08:44:00) (merri) I stay my haste, something I must keep reminding myself to do
(08:44:15) (HostLory) The tidal wave comes to the sea;
(08:44:31) (HostLory) Nor time, nor space, nor deep, nor high,
(08:44:46) (HostLory) Can keep my own away from me.”
(08:45:12) (WalksInSpirit) Gosh, that is beautiful.
(08:45:20) (HostLory) THE SPIRIT of YOUR THOUGHT: We have now covered most points about thought-forms that you need to know to use them with some degree of success for yourself. If you like, you need go no further in our discussions, but use merely what has already been given. It will work for you.
(08:45:22) (Raleigh) hmmm
(08:45:25) (merri) yes
(08:45:40) (Raleigh) yes its as we are to say
(08:45:48) (Raleigh) all due u
(08:46:01) (HostLory) But you CAN do more. You CAN MAKE it WORK for others, as well. And if you DO use this marvelous power to help others, that in turn will help you.
(08:46:12) (Raleigh) we will get what we need regaurdless i see here
(08:46:22) (BlackWolf) OK, you convinced me not to rob a bank to pay for my tuition, Lory. :o)
(08:46:31) (HostLory) In using thought-forms to help others, follow the rules already given, but substitute the other person in place of yourself. In the matter of health, visualize the other person well, happy, strong, vital. If employment is the objective, see the other person busy at a useful task, earning money. And so on. The principle is the same.
(08:46:32) (Raleigh) :)
(08:46:51) (HostLory) LOL Black Wolf
(08:47:13) (Cris) Just think positive and know the money will come BW
(08:47:21) (HostLory) BUT be very, very sure when you use a thought-form for another that it IS to HIS or HER advantage. What you THINK would be good for another might not be good at all.
(08:47:43) (HostLory) . Hesitate always before taking action of the mental plane for another (as well as for yourself), for in working a thought-form for another you are involving yourself in the results of it, and you may not like them if things do not work out as you think they should, through your imperfect use of the idea.
(08:48:18) (HostLory) One safe way to help another ~~ and in my opinion the very best way ~~ is to HELP HIM TO HELP HIMSELF, for then he puts his own efforts into the work and the results will mean more.
(08:48:35) (Raleigh) yes lory as ec said / any talent say used for the betterment of our fellow man or the glory of god more creative talent is given ? ive experienced this
(08:48:39) (HostLory) This applies to thought-forms in particular. You may even go so far as to talk to the person who needs help, about thought-forms, so that he can use them for himself, if he is open-minded enough to concede the possibility of their value.
(08:49:11) (HostLory) You'll have to share it with us sometime, Ral. Sounds interesting.
(08:49:30) (HostLory) We need not seek to solve all the world’s problems, but we will do well to help another person in some way when the chance comes our way. Such an action gives an outlet through us to the constructive activity of Universal Mind, for wherever Universal Mind is ~~ and that is everywhere ~~ there we also find it seeking an opportunity to help its own creatures.
(08:49:52) (Raleigh) ive not heard of this suogate thoughts lory
(08:49:56) (HostLory) Wherever the Universal Mind is, there also we find love ~~ love for its own creatures like the love of a parent for his children ~~ only on a grander scale, and never failing. And love in a human being “is ever the beginning of knowledge, as fire is of light”.
(08:50:28) (Raleigh) surogaste thought vforms / is this ec material lory
(08:50:37) (HostLory) Love and Life are inseparable. Sometime we may discover that they are one and the same Principle, in creative and ethical polarities. Life being everywhere, creation is therefore still going on everywhere.
(08:51:14) (HostLory) No, Ral, this is from the book Consciously Creating Circustances by George Winslow Plummer.
(08:51:23) (Raleigh) k / ty
(08:51:31) (Raleigh) ill still see it / ty
(08:51:34) (HostLory) Your thoughts, reaching out into this ocean of creative activity, can direct its energies to your purposes, and if those purposes are in alignment with the nature and intent of the First Creative Purpose, and if they betoken Progress for All, your desires will be more speedily realized.
(08:52:06) (HostLory) This is the essence of the admonition to become “chosen vessels of the Lord”. To become or to make one’s self a chosen vessel implies a direct personal responsibility, one that we have not generally observed to be stressed by most
(08:52:30) (HostLory) self-help philosophies of the day, which are devoted mainly to the general subject of “How to get what you want”. The correlative responsibility is to USE what you GET. It seems to be a law of Nature that only use brings out or keeps up what we have. If we do not use our brains, they do not develop. If we do not use our muscles, they atrophy.
(08:53:06) (HostLory) If we do not use our house, it deteriorates; the roof begins to leak, pipes go bad, window panes are broken and the house assumes a general appearance of decrepitude. If we have wealth and do not use it for the common good, we either become useless misers or someone takes it from us. If we have talents and do not use them profitably, they diminish or are taken away.
(08:53:35) (WalksInSpirit) Autos do that, too.
(08:54:15) (HostLory) There is law back of all this. Forces in nature are in a state of constant flux ~~ ebb and flow. The stream goes on continuously, with waves of action and reaction. If we keep on with our course, we ride the waves. If we drift, we move around in circles with the counter waves, and get nowhere. If we have talents and put them into use
(08:54:34) (Raleigh) unusted knowlege is sin / sayz ec
(08:54:41) (Raleigh) unused
(08:54:46) (HostLory) they multiply and one result leads to another still more worth while. If we have means we must keep them in circulation, casting the bread upon the waters that it may come back to us after many days. The one who hoards talent, ability, wealth, energy, finds that in due time it becomes a menace to him. YOU CAN ONLY KEEP BY GIVING AWAY, paradoxical as that may seem.
(08:55:06) (Raleigh) undriven cars rot
(08:55:13) (Raleigh) :)
(08:55:35) (HostLory) Some years ago, a wealthy New Yorker bought a large tract of land, in the Adirondacks. Streams ran through it and watered adjacent ands and every one was happy and prosperous. But the new landowner wanted the streams for himself. He built dams, so that he could enjoy artificial falls and a small lake.
(08:56:34) (HostLory) . In due time the lake became larger, but the water, shut off from its natural course, no longer nourished the adjacent lands and they suffered; vegetation dwindled to nothing and poverty existed where before there had been plenty. The rich man’s lake grew still larger and in time it flooded his own lands and spoiled what had
(08:56:37) (Raleigh) you keep that you give away
(08:57:04) (HostLory) been a place of beauty. Marshes formed, Stagnant pools developed. Mosquitoes found it a delightful summer resort. The stubborn man only felt that he had been cheated and refused to do a thing.
(08:57:19) (WalksInSpirit) We have a ceremony called the Give Away that is done at any major event in a person's life. Basicly, the blessing you originally get (at a birth, or new home, etc.) is passed along to everyone else through the Give Away.
(08:57:34) (HostLory) Finally, the farmers adjacent to him took the law into their own hands, broke down the dams, let the water back on its natural course, and in due time order was restored, but only after hatred, revenge and suffering had been engendered. To this day, the wealthy owner will not go up there; neither will he sell his land.
(08:58:00) (HostLory) Meantime, the others who do live there are happy again. Moral, the foolish one by his selfish refusal to put himself in alignment with the natural forces, has crowded himself out of what might have been a little Paradise.
(08:58:21) (Raleigh) pls remember to explain this to me me wis
(08:58:34) (HostLory) The example just cited is by way of illustrating the responsibility that possession of anything entails, whether it be wealth, talent, brains or ability. Do not formulate a thought-form of anything unless you have a deep, intensive interest in USING it. For instance, it would be of no use for you to wish for wealth solely that you might escape work.
(08:59:10) (HostLory) Wealth brings definite responsibilities. Are you as anxious to assume them, apply them, USE them? If not, think up a better thought-form! You cannot use Universal Mind to evade work, responsibility, or to look forward to a life of laziness, uselessness or idleness. The wise bees and ants do not permit that, and neither will Nature permit it in the human species without
(08:59:40) (HostLory) payment of some kind, which may not be pleasant to him who pays. That we have some such idlers at the moment is merely the result of accumulated motion, wherein we have not yet learned how to distribute the profusion of wealth of many kinds that an overgenerous Nature so lavishly bestows.
(09:01:03) (HostLory) Truly, anything that is right, constructive and worthy, is within the reach of any intelligent human being, if that being will only set himself in alignment with the forces whose assistance he seeks. When you have formulated your thought-form, by impressing it upon the Universal Mind you create a mental prototype It is actually accomplished. That is why you HAVE received, even before you see it in manifestation. This prototype grows, by the law of g
(09:01:45) (HostLory) and deeper into the Universal matrix. As it grows, it attracts to itself just the material its complete expression calls for until finally it comes in externalization.
(09:05:06) (HostLory) The at-one-ment to be effected by tuning the individual mind to the Universal Mind through a conscious and whole-souled acceptance of its existence, its power, its impersonalness which means no favoritism but equal opportunity to al alike, is well expressed by the Prophet Zachariah:
(09:05:43) (HostLory) “Not by might, nor by power, BUT BY MY SPIRIT”. Therefore, it is most essential (for best results) that we approach Universal Mind from the spiritual pint of view as well as the purely mental. In this approach we must keep in mind the requirement set before us by the Nazarene Master, who said in his own prayers, “Nevertheless, not my will but
(09:06:05) (HostLory) thine be done”. Failure to recognize this principle is one strong reason why some fail who attempt to practice mental science, for “to live by one man’s will became the cause of all men’s misery”, as Richard Hooker wrote over three hundred years ago.
(09:06:42) (HostLory) This principle ~~ not my will but thine ~~ is the pivotal point around which the well-ordered life of the individual with balanced judgment revolves. It is the properly spiritual attitude. It does not mean passivity.
(09:07:06) (HostLory) It does not mean sitting around waiting for a Higher Will to make itself manifest. It does mean going to work with all the power we possess and DOING SOMETHING, instead of lolling around and rationalizing our laziness with every kind of sophistry.
(09:07:38) (HostLory) By going about it in the right way, ready always to conform his individual will with that of the Universal Will, so to speak, one can effect such a reapprochement with the Universal as to be able to enter into its creative activities and direct those activities to an individual measure of realization
(09:08:08) (HostLory) This is what Judge Troward, a great mental scientist, meant when he described this process as one wherein the “Cosmic Intelligence becomes individualized and the individual intelligence becomes universalized. The two become one”.
(09:08:30) (HostLory) So I urge you to use thought-forms in this spirit ~~ IF YOU USE THEM AT ALL. Yes, they will work even if you use them for some entirely worthy personal motive. But they will work with much greater power if you seek to conform them to Universal Motives, so far as you feel you understand them.
(09:09:10) (HostLory) Let your thought-forms ~~ for greatest usefulness to others and therefore to yourself ~~ have back of them a conscious love of Man and God. Whatever your purpose, let it serve also the purpose of the power that has brought you to the point where you are permitted to use thought-forms
(09:09:40) (HostLory) In other words, provide for the equity ~~ Universal Mind is going to do a lot for you: what are you going to do to serve the purposes of Universal Mind?
(09:10:09) (HostLory) Epictetus advises us to dare to look up to God and say, “Make use of me for the future as Thou wilt. I am of the same mind; I am one with Thee. I refuse nothing
(09:10:33) (HostLory) which seems good to Thee. Lead me whither Thou wilt. Clothe me in whatever dress Thou wilt”.
(09:11:00) (HostLory) The mental scientist will do well to keep that admonition in mind, and to the degree that he acts and lives it will his life prosper.
(09:11:22) (HostLory) Written by George Winslow Plummer ~~
(09:12:16) (HostLory) This completes Consciously Creating Circumstances. Thank you all for being so attentive. May God Bless each and every one of you and may the Universal Mind be kind to you all.
(09:12:40) (patricia) thank you Lory. awesome!
(09:12:47) (ron) thank you lory
(09:12:47) (Cris) Thanks Lory
(09:12:52) (merri) Wonderful words, Lory, TY
(09:13:12) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Grandmother! This has been an awesome series!
(09:13:23) (HostLory) I have been given permission to share comments made by one of our chatters (sent to me via e-mail) regarding the material that has been presented here as written by George Winslow Plummer on Consciously Creating Circumstances……..
(09:13:50) (HostLory) Please feel free to express your views as well. I believe we all learn from one another not only from our own experiences but others as well and everyone’s opinion is important for us all to share what we have learned thereof.
(09:14:18) (HostLory) “In my opinion, being open and being guided and led to our best, comes about by allowing God, (who is more than Universal Mind) to inspire us and gives us the impetus in right actions, way beyond our ability to image and put into manifestation, our desires. This is much like meditation, which is an allowing the Spirit to move within us, not being directed by our will.
(09:14:43) (HostLory) I studied Rosicrucian for many years and realized this as the reason for discontinuing the study. Incidentally, the Rosicrucian Headquarters at Oceanside, Calif. Has been abandoned and has grown up in weeds.”
(09:15:41) (Theophilus) oh no Lory i used to go there
(09:16:02) (HostLory) Do you have any comment then Theo?
(09:16:35) (WalksInSpirit) It's been a real eye-opener for me, Grandmother, as far as how I view myself and my place in the Universe.
(09:16:46) (HostLory) Does the fact that this chatter said that the Universal Mind is not God, have any effect on any of you?
(09:16:54) (Theophilus) no just sorry to hear the rosicrucian facility has closed
(09:17:13) (HostLory) It may have been only the one location Theo, I do not know.
(09:17:20) (BlackWolf) Perhaps they missed the continual effort at balancing the willingness to allow divine guidance, with the need to develope in the material plane also.
(09:17:40) (HostLory) I always thought the main hdqrtrs of the Rosicrucians was in the bay area in California.,
(09:17:54) (Theophilus) met some nice people there
(09:18:16) (Theophilus) that is another Rosicrucian group
(09:18:24) (HostLory) Very good comment BlackWolf. I like that. It is in line with the other chatters comments.
(09:19:03) (Cris) I'm sure we have all had times where we have focused on getting something never realizing we were using Universal Law - I like the hearing the concept expressed that we have to give in order to receive
(09:19:28) (HostLory) It would be very informative and interesting to know if and when any of you begin to use thought-forms, the succes rate and the results as to whether they were good or bad.
(09:21:07) (HostLory) Yes Cris, that is a wonderful concept and it follows in line with Cayce's channelling as well.
(09:23:07) (WalksInSpirit) I know yall have heard me & Blu talking about the movie/documentary "What The Bleep Do We Know?!" Well, the principles we learned in that have been repeated to us through Grandmother's Consciously Creating Circumstances Series.
(09:23:11) (HostLory) If there are no other comments, it is now open chat and again, let me thank you all for your interest and attendance. It has truly been my pleasure to bring you this metaphysical approach, citing Universal Laws and the concepts of ARE, as well.
(09:23:44) (WalksInSpirit) It seems the Universe was throwing these principles at us from every angle!
(09:24:12) (merri) agree, WIS