Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 20, 2007 22:39:39 GMT -5
Healing Stones Chat: 11-20-07
(09:07:26) (@autogreeter) Good Evening. The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to Healing Stones Chat, Hosted By Cris.
(09:18:13) (@cris7) Tonight is going to be a talk on the November birthstones
(09:18:23) (@cris7) Topaz and Citrine
(09:19:09) (@cris7) I ran across some interesting sites that had information that was better presented than what was printed in a book that I'd been using
(09:19:19) (@blubearwoman) cool
(09:19:20) (@cris7) I'll give you the url at the end
(09:19:25) (@blubearwoman) ok
(09:19:30) (@cris7) Topaz
(09:20:05) (@cris7) History and Lore of Topaz
(09:20:20) (@cris7) Topaz is the birthstone for the month of November, and the stone given in celebration of the 4th and 19th anniversaries of marriage. Topaz is a symbol of love and affection, and has been said to be an aid to ones sweetness and disposition.
(09:20:46) (@cris7) Topaz gets its name from the Greek word topazion, which may originate from the Sanskrit tapas, meaning, "fire." The name might also come from the name of the Egyptian island of Topazos (now St Johns island) in the Red Sea. The Latin writer Pliny the Elder used the island's name for a yellowish green stone found there, and it soon became the name for most yellow stones. Topaz was once predominantly found there but is now also found in Brazil, Nigeria, Australia, Burma, and Mexico.
(09:21:27) (@cris7) The Greeks and Romans greatly valued topaz as a gemstone. In medieval times, small wine-yellow Saxonian Topaz was mined at Schneckenstein in the Erzgebirge Mountains in Saxony Germany, and several rulers wore these specimens in jewelry. Deep mining was later used at the site from 1737 to 1800. Topaz was always a prized and rare stone from the time of the middle Ages until discoveries of large deposits in Brazil in the mid 19th century. Nowadays it is much more popular and very affordable.
(09:22:04) (@cris7) In 1740, the "Braganza" diamond (1,640 carats) was found in Ouro Preto, Brazil. It was set in the Portugese crown, and was thought to be the largest diamond ever found. The fact that it was a diamond was never confirmed, and it is now believed to have been a colorless topaz.
(09:22:27) (@cris7) Topaz was one of the stones selected by Aaron for his priestly breastplate. He placed it on there as the second stone in the first row of stones. Topaz is also found as one of the stones in Revelation and is one of the stones of the apocalypse. In Egyptian practices, it is the symbol of Ra, the Sun god, who was the giver of life. In Europe, topaz became strongly linked with Apollo, who is also a solar being.
(09:22:54) (@cris7) The majority of topaz is colorless and is called white topaz. The next most abundant color of topaz is blue and green. The most frequently seen stones in jewelry are the shades yellow or sherry brown, and pink. Clear, pink, blue and honey-yellow varieties of topaz are especially valued. The most sought after and expensive colors are called "imperial topaz." In the past, it was thought that all yellow gems were topazand that all topaz was yellow. We now know topaz varies in color from pale blue and colorless, to yellow, orange, brown and pink. The pink stones so popular in Victorian jewelry were produced by heat-treating golden-brown topaz from Brazil.
(09:23:36) (@cris7) Blue topaz has become very popular over the years. Most of the blue topaz on the market is treated. Unfortunately there is no way yet to determine which stones have been treated and which are natural. Although blue topaz has not been manufactured synthetically on a commercial scale, a completely natural looking blue coloration has been produced in colorless topaz by means of irradiation with gamma rays. This practice is regard ed as legitimate in the trade, and is becoming increasingly widespread. It is one of the reasons for the present abundance of blue topaz in the trade.
(09:24:32) (@cris7) Blue topaz closely resembles the finest aquamarine, and offers a very attractive and more affordable alternative to aquamarine. Some of the finer deeper blue topaz stones have been found to be radioactive. In the US, all blue topaz must be tested for radiation levels, as according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, a highly radioactive stone may be injurious to the wearer. The Gemological Institute of America now provides radiation testing to the jewelry trader. Be careful if you are buying blue topaz outside of the US- if you do, it may be wise to have it tested when you come home.
(09:25:35) (@cris7) In Hindu mythology, the word for topaz means heat. Topaz is one of the sacred stones of the Hindu's Kalpa tree. It is well known and very sacred to the Hindus. It is one of the 9 sacred stones upon a talisman of nine gems. The Hindus believe that worn as a pendant, this gemstone will relieve thirst, sharpen intelligence and lengthen ones life.
(09:26:16) (@cris7) In Africa, healing rituals with topaz are practiced to establish communion with the realm of the spirit. The Bushmen who bring it to their shamanic work both for journeying, working with ancestors, and for healing, treat the stone as a highly sacred one.
(09:26:43) (@cris7) Topaz was once was considered one of five elemental substances that would bring protection to the deities. The figure of a falcon engraved upon a topaz would bring the wearer goodwill and kindness of the powers that be. It was also thought that this would help one attract wealthy patrons who would support artistic endeavors.
(09:27:38) (@cris7) Blue topaz in particular has been said to work with ones creative energies. Blue topaz is also excellent for promoting concentration. Many believed wearing a topaz ring would keep death from coming prematurely and would control insomnia and greed. Topaz has also been long believed to be useful for those unable to control lust- a good stone for people with sex addictions.
(09:28:16) (@cris7) Topaz has been said to be of great use for protection against a wide variety of problems from emotional difficulties to fires and accidents. In 1255, St Hildegard of Bingen, the famous mystic, offered a simple remedy for failing eyesight: steep a topaz in wine for three days and then lightly rub it over the eyes. Worn around the neck, topaz was also thought to cure madness.
(09:28:41) (@cris7) Topaz is used to promote good fortune. In fact, it has been said that dreaming of topaz may indicate that good fortune is on its way. These dreams can also suggest love affairs.
(09:29:16) (@cris7) Traditions hold that topaz bestowed many benefits upon its wearer. It would dispel cowardice, calm the temper, cure madness and plague, and sharpen the wit. It was also thought to aid in sleep and eliminate nightmares, as well as cure rheumatism and soreness in the joints. The stone has also been credited with being effective against bleeding and heart disease. It has been said to instantly lose its color to indicate that poison is present, thus protecting its owner. The stone has also been thought to bring fidelity and friendship if constantly worn without being set aside. It was also believed to be an effective talisman against accident and fire, and to bring increased intuition and long life. To Christians, it has been known as a symbol of uprightness and virtue.
(09:30:16) (@cris7) Topaz has been said to be an ideal stone for travelers, protecting them from homesickness and danger. Ancient Romans credited topaz with preventing sickness of the chest and abdominal pain. Set in gold and worn around the neck, topaz is reputed to dispel bad omens, heal poor vision and calm anger.
(09:31:46) (@cris7) New Part:
(09:31:50) (@cris7) Mystical Properties of Topaz
(09:32:06) (minibelle) this sounds like a wonder gem!!
(09:32:29) (@cris7) So says the seller...... :o)
(09:32:36) (@cris7) Topaz has many attributes when it comes to aiding one's physical health. It has been said to work with the spinal column and help steady and regulate the action of the heart. It has been used to treat bleeding and works to promote health in the glandular systems of the body. It is highly recommended for those who wish to improve their eyesight. In earlier times, topaz was believed to be able to actually absorb the heat of a fever.
(09:32:58) (@cris7) Topaz has also long been believed to ease the inflammations, discomfort and pain associated with arthritis. It is used in India to treat tonsillitis, whopping cough, and mumps. Topaz is also useful for treating infections, deafness, goiter, hemorrhage, gout, circulatory problems, and nightmares. It aids in achieving good digestion, combating anorexia, restoring the sense of taste, stimulating metabolism and more. Furthermore, men are believed to become more viral when wearing topaz.
(09:33:31) (@cris7) Topaz is particularly good for artists. It gives one access to their artistic creativity, and increases one's appreciation of beauty. It is said to give a person the capacity to see both the larger picture and the minute detail, recognizing how they interrelate.
(09:33:58) (@cris7) Emotionally, topaz is very useful for treating depression. It helps a person alleviate their fears, and treats psychosomatic illnesses. It balances emotions, helping those who go from one extreme to another. Topaz is highly recommended for healing a person who is suffering from shock or trauma. It is also an excellent stone for those whose lives contain abnormal amounts of stress or tension. Topaz can stimulate a person to maintain a brighter outlook on life.
(09:34:32) (@cris7) Topaz has been praised for its ability to attune one to his higher self. It facilitates living according to your own aspiration and views rather than living your life to please others. In paying attention to your own needs and finding your inner sources of emotional nourishment rather than feeding off a partner, you nurture yourself. And in living life in an equal partnership you can find that inner fulfillment we are all looking for. This can lead to a more productive life.
(09:35:02) (@cris7) All in all, topaz has been said to relieve greed, frenzies, insanity, hypocrisy, envy, intrigue, disease, injury, sudden death, sorcery, negative magic, lunacy and all disturbing emotions. It is said to soothe, heal, re-motivate, and bring the wearer strength, loyalty, beauty, protection, healing, weight loss, joy, generosity, abundance, wisdom, enlightenment, knowledge, good health, virtues of leadership, and love.
(09:35:22) (minibelle) i just need some topaz
(09:35:29) (@blubearwoman) lol
(09:35:30) (@cris7) Topaz is known as the "clover of gold," as it is used to bring wealth and money. It is traditionally known as a stone of love and good fortune, bringing successful attainment of goals. It is said to be especially effective when set in gold and bound to the left arm. Topaz brings confidence, aids in problem solving, openness, honesty, self-control, self-realization and the development of inner wisdom.
(09:35:39) (@blubearwoman) couldn't hurt my belle
(09:35:47) (minibelle) lots of topaz
(09:35:56) (@cris7) Me too Minibelle I gave away my last one
(09:36:09) (@cris7) Placed in the home, topaz protects against fire and accidents. When put under the pillow, it fends off nightmares and ends sleep walking. Overall, topaz has been known to transmute negative energy into positive energy.
(09:36:12) (@blubearwoman) maybe you should invest in a pendant with this money
(09:36:16) (minibelle) let all go on a wild topaz hunt!!
(09:37:04) (@cris7) I'm game when no longer a caregiver
(09:37:26) (@cris7) In particular, blue topaz has been said to be extremely helpful to those who are angry. The stone aids in releasing one's anger and bringing the realization of ones emotions and emotional pain to the surface. It helps one learn his true and real feelings and honor them, letting go of anger and resentment. Blue topaz promotes the surrender to forgiveness of oneself and others, thereby releasing the anger that can hold a person back from living a healthy life.
(09:37:39) (minibelle) i'm just being silly--but what a stone--so many things it does
(09:38:06) (@cris7) Blue topaz also aids verbalization and is excellent for meditation and living according to your own aspirations and views. It helps you recognize truth and wisdom and where exactly you have strayed from your own truth. It is a great choice for the time when we want to understand our entire life, when we want to know why what seemed to be our greatest wish, our strongest desire, was not fulfilled. It allows us to clearly see what we have accomplished, and the goals we still have left to accomplish. This clear vision allows us to have inner peace.
(09:38:21) (ron1) It will go to work for you, as well
(09:38:46) (@cris7) End of Topaz... Whew!!!
(09:38:55) (@blubearwoman) awesome
(09:39:06) (ron1) that is some gem
(09:39:15) (@blubearwoman) sounds pretty good
(09:39:16) (minibelle) i say so
(09:39:35) (@blubearwoman) I have never been drawn to yellow stones
(09:39:41) (@blubearwoman) but blue sounds good
(09:40:06) (@blubearwoman) clear would be good for me too
(09:40:08) (@cris7) There is natural blue topaz you can find
(09:40:12) (minibelle) yes it sure does sound good
(09:40:31) (@blubearwoman) I might have some, can't remember if it is topaz or aquamarine
(09:40:46) (@cris7) Ready for Citrine?
(09:40:49) (@blubearwoman) yep
(09:41:08) (minibelle) ok but can it equal topaz?? i think not
(09:41:17) (@blubearwoman) lol
(09:41:27) (@cris7) maybe....
(09:41:27) (minibelle) super topaz
(09:41:40) (minibelle) oh my really? lead on Cris
(09:41:58) (@cris7) I like citrine not the heat treated but the natural
(09:42:36) (@cris7) History and Lore of Citrine
(09:42:56) (@cris7) Citrine is the birthstone for the month of November, sharing the title with topaz. In fact, the citrine stone has been used to imitate topaz and was once called Brazilian topaz. Citrine is also the gemstone that celebrates the 13th anniversary of marriage. Citrine is named after the French word Citrin, meaning lemon. The color of citrine ranges from straw and sun yellow to clay orange, to deep, wine colored Madeira red. In the past, the Madeira colored stones were the most valuable, but today, the more vivid yellows and oranges are the most popular. Natural bright yellow citrine is the most rare of the quartz varieties.
(09:43:47) (@cris7) Citrine has been popular for thousands of years and used to be revered for its rarity, though that has changed with time. The ancient Romans used it for beautiful jewelry and intaglio work. It was also very popular for jewelry in the 19th century. During the Art Deco period between World Wars I and II, large citrines were set in many prized pieces, including the massive and elaborate Art Deco inspired jewelry pieces made for big Hollywood stars such as Greta Garbo and Joan Crawford.
(09:44:18) (@cris7) Nowadays however, the stone is not as rare, and thus, the use of citrine has little to do with opulence and luxury anymore. In fact, for years, Citrine became so cheap and plentiful, no one took it seriously. Now however, there is a full-scale renaissance for this gem. Its bargain price is no longer a handicap, but an asset, as it allows for use of very large stones in jewelry.
(09:44:40) (@cris7) As part of the trend, jewelry makers are using big, bold gems- many cut in a cubist manner, to give lots of splash for the money. Citrine has found favor with budget minded women looking to expand their wardrobes with affordable pieces of jewelry. When it comes to providing earth-toned colors for women on a budget, citrine has no real competition.
(09:44:55) (@cris7) Mystical Properties of Citrine
(09:45:17) (@cris7) There are many positive attributes of the citrine stone when it comes to aiding the physical self. It is said that the stone aids urinary, kidney, and digestive diseases. It has also been said that citrine purifies the system and may help counteract the toxic affects of many pharmaceutical medicines. Citrine is believed to be a tonic for the circulatory system, helping cleanse the blood, as it is processed within the kidneys and other organs. It is also believed to enhance the passage of electrical impulses within the nervous system and improve the functionality of the endocrine system.
(09:45:46) (@cris7) Citrine gives energy and invigoration to the physical body. It is useful to people who are sensitive to environmental and other outside influences. It is also highly beneficial for reversing degenerative diseases. Citrine stimulates digestion, the spleen, and the pancreas. It helps eye problems, increases blood circulation, and activates the thymus.
(09:46:06) (@blubearwoman) sounds good so far
(09:46:08) (@cris7) It has a warming effect and fortifies the nerves. It also relieves constipation and supposedly aids in removing cellulite. Soaking a citrine in pure water renders an elixir, which is reported to release toxins from the body. As an elixir, citrine is also helpful for women and their menstrual problems, such as PMS and cramps. It is also beneficial to women as it aids in menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, by balancing the hormones and alleviating fatigue. As with other yellow gemstones, citrine is used to treat bladder diseases and imbalances in the thyroid gland.
(09:46:38) (@blubearwoman) I am sold
(09:46:53) (minibelle) me too
(09:47:00) (@cris7) LOL
(09:47:04) (@cris7) Citrine is believed to be of value in healing the spiritual self as well, as it is a powerful cleanser and regenerator. It carries the virtues of self-healing, inspiration and self-improvement. Carrying the power of the sun, it is excellent for overcoming depression, fears and phobias. It aids those with a depressed self-esteem. One's sense of self becomes more radiant with a citrine and it helps to look forward to the future optimistically, going with the flow, instead of hanging on to the past.
(09:47:07) (minibelle) what colors does it come in?
(09:48:04) (@cris7) Mentally, it awakens the higher mind, expanding conscious awareness and improving clarity of thought, promoting inner calm so that wisdom may emerge. It stimulates intellect and mental activity and overcomes the difficulty one may have with verbalizing thoughts and feelings. The gemstone helps in digesting information and analyzing situations, steering them in the right direction, therefore helping us find solutions to our problems.
(09:48:46) (@cris7) Citrine also encourages the acceptance of constructive criticism and shows you how to act on it. It provides a type of personal mind control in that it helps you steady your emotions and keep them balanced and under control. It also assists you to be spontaneous without trampling on other people in the process. Holding a citrine assists you to remain calm in the most challenging of situations. Because of this, it is a useful stone for smoothing group or family discord. It helps you listen to others rather than talking across them.
(09:49:14) (@cris7) Citrine draws off stress and negativity from your body and brings in a quiet, refreshing peace. It helps you overcomes fear of responsibility and stops anger and destructive tendencies. It has also been said that the stone acts as an early warning system so that action can be taken to protect oneself.
(09:49:35) (@cris7) Citrine is warming, energizing, and highly creative, and imparts a flexibility and openness to new experiences. It energizes every level of your life and is a powerful attractor of helpful friends and mentors. It has the power to impart joy to all who behold it and instills a positive attitude.
(09:49:54) (@cris7) Gloom and negativity do not exist around the citrine. Citrine supports generosity, yet at the same time, helps you hold onto your wealth. It is said that the stone will draw all the good things in life to you.
(09:50:03) (@cris7) End of Citrine
(09:50:10) (@blubearwoman) awesome
(09:50:14) (minibelle) wow
(09:50:33) (minibelle) need a crate of each of the above stones Cris
(09:50:44) (@cris7) Mineral dealers usually have a piece of citrine in their cash boxes
(09:50:50) (@blubearwoman) I have seen in some of these new age shops a pendant that has all the 7 stones of the chakras on them, have considered buying one
(09:51:26) (@cris7) It does open your mind to new experiences
(09:52:10) (@blubearwoman) i should super glue a bunch of stones to WIS
(09:52:32) (minibelle) maybe put them on a vest Blu
(09:52:44) (minibelle) like in the Breastplate
(09:52:51) (minibelle) in the Bible
(09:52:53) (@cris7) We could all use one
(09:53:03) (minibelle) i agree
(09:53:04) (@blubearwoman) I made him a neck lass a long time ago with our totems, I may try doing that again with stones
(09:53:46) (@blubearwoman) been a long time since I made jewelry
(09:55:15) (@cris7) The Url for this is : www.jewelsforme.com Please remember this site wants to sell you stuff. It is a good source of information if you click on the lore section and the
(09:55:28) (@cris7) learn about section
(10:24:34) (@cris7) Have to go Blessings all
(10:24:40) (@blubearwoman) Blessings Cris
(10:24:41) (ron1) bye
(09:18:13) (@cris7) Tonight is going to be a talk on the November birthstones
(09:18:23) (@cris7) Topaz and Citrine
(09:19:09) (@cris7) I ran across some interesting sites that had information that was better presented than what was printed in a book that I'd been using
(09:19:19) (@blubearwoman) cool
(09:19:20) (@cris7) I'll give you the url at the end
(09:19:25) (@blubearwoman) ok
(09:19:30) (@cris7) Topaz
(09:20:05) (@cris7) History and Lore of Topaz
(09:20:20) (@cris7) Topaz is the birthstone for the month of November, and the stone given in celebration of the 4th and 19th anniversaries of marriage. Topaz is a symbol of love and affection, and has been said to be an aid to ones sweetness and disposition.
(09:20:46) (@cris7) Topaz gets its name from the Greek word topazion, which may originate from the Sanskrit tapas, meaning, "fire." The name might also come from the name of the Egyptian island of Topazos (now St Johns island) in the Red Sea. The Latin writer Pliny the Elder used the island's name for a yellowish green stone found there, and it soon became the name for most yellow stones. Topaz was once predominantly found there but is now also found in Brazil, Nigeria, Australia, Burma, and Mexico.
(09:21:27) (@cris7) The Greeks and Romans greatly valued topaz as a gemstone. In medieval times, small wine-yellow Saxonian Topaz was mined at Schneckenstein in the Erzgebirge Mountains in Saxony Germany, and several rulers wore these specimens in jewelry. Deep mining was later used at the site from 1737 to 1800. Topaz was always a prized and rare stone from the time of the middle Ages until discoveries of large deposits in Brazil in the mid 19th century. Nowadays it is much more popular and very affordable.
(09:22:04) (@cris7) In 1740, the "Braganza" diamond (1,640 carats) was found in Ouro Preto, Brazil. It was set in the Portugese crown, and was thought to be the largest diamond ever found. The fact that it was a diamond was never confirmed, and it is now believed to have been a colorless topaz.
(09:22:27) (@cris7) Topaz was one of the stones selected by Aaron for his priestly breastplate. He placed it on there as the second stone in the first row of stones. Topaz is also found as one of the stones in Revelation and is one of the stones of the apocalypse. In Egyptian practices, it is the symbol of Ra, the Sun god, who was the giver of life. In Europe, topaz became strongly linked with Apollo, who is also a solar being.
(09:22:54) (@cris7) The majority of topaz is colorless and is called white topaz. The next most abundant color of topaz is blue and green. The most frequently seen stones in jewelry are the shades yellow or sherry brown, and pink. Clear, pink, blue and honey-yellow varieties of topaz are especially valued. The most sought after and expensive colors are called "imperial topaz." In the past, it was thought that all yellow gems were topazand that all topaz was yellow. We now know topaz varies in color from pale blue and colorless, to yellow, orange, brown and pink. The pink stones so popular in Victorian jewelry were produced by heat-treating golden-brown topaz from Brazil.
(09:23:36) (@cris7) Blue topaz has become very popular over the years. Most of the blue topaz on the market is treated. Unfortunately there is no way yet to determine which stones have been treated and which are natural. Although blue topaz has not been manufactured synthetically on a commercial scale, a completely natural looking blue coloration has been produced in colorless topaz by means of irradiation with gamma rays. This practice is regard ed as legitimate in the trade, and is becoming increasingly widespread. It is one of the reasons for the present abundance of blue topaz in the trade.
(09:24:32) (@cris7) Blue topaz closely resembles the finest aquamarine, and offers a very attractive and more affordable alternative to aquamarine. Some of the finer deeper blue topaz stones have been found to be radioactive. In the US, all blue topaz must be tested for radiation levels, as according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, a highly radioactive stone may be injurious to the wearer. The Gemological Institute of America now provides radiation testing to the jewelry trader. Be careful if you are buying blue topaz outside of the US- if you do, it may be wise to have it tested when you come home.
(09:25:35) (@cris7) In Hindu mythology, the word for topaz means heat. Topaz is one of the sacred stones of the Hindu's Kalpa tree. It is well known and very sacred to the Hindus. It is one of the 9 sacred stones upon a talisman of nine gems. The Hindus believe that worn as a pendant, this gemstone will relieve thirst, sharpen intelligence and lengthen ones life.
(09:26:16) (@cris7) In Africa, healing rituals with topaz are practiced to establish communion with the realm of the spirit. The Bushmen who bring it to their shamanic work both for journeying, working with ancestors, and for healing, treat the stone as a highly sacred one.
(09:26:43) (@cris7) Topaz was once was considered one of five elemental substances that would bring protection to the deities. The figure of a falcon engraved upon a topaz would bring the wearer goodwill and kindness of the powers that be. It was also thought that this would help one attract wealthy patrons who would support artistic endeavors.
(09:27:38) (@cris7) Blue topaz in particular has been said to work with ones creative energies. Blue topaz is also excellent for promoting concentration. Many believed wearing a topaz ring would keep death from coming prematurely and would control insomnia and greed. Topaz has also been long believed to be useful for those unable to control lust- a good stone for people with sex addictions.
(09:28:16) (@cris7) Topaz has been said to be of great use for protection against a wide variety of problems from emotional difficulties to fires and accidents. In 1255, St Hildegard of Bingen, the famous mystic, offered a simple remedy for failing eyesight: steep a topaz in wine for three days and then lightly rub it over the eyes. Worn around the neck, topaz was also thought to cure madness.
(09:28:41) (@cris7) Topaz is used to promote good fortune. In fact, it has been said that dreaming of topaz may indicate that good fortune is on its way. These dreams can also suggest love affairs.
(09:29:16) (@cris7) Traditions hold that topaz bestowed many benefits upon its wearer. It would dispel cowardice, calm the temper, cure madness and plague, and sharpen the wit. It was also thought to aid in sleep and eliminate nightmares, as well as cure rheumatism and soreness in the joints. The stone has also been credited with being effective against bleeding and heart disease. It has been said to instantly lose its color to indicate that poison is present, thus protecting its owner. The stone has also been thought to bring fidelity and friendship if constantly worn without being set aside. It was also believed to be an effective talisman against accident and fire, and to bring increased intuition and long life. To Christians, it has been known as a symbol of uprightness and virtue.
(09:30:16) (@cris7) Topaz has been said to be an ideal stone for travelers, protecting them from homesickness and danger. Ancient Romans credited topaz with preventing sickness of the chest and abdominal pain. Set in gold and worn around the neck, topaz is reputed to dispel bad omens, heal poor vision and calm anger.
(09:31:46) (@cris7) New Part:
(09:31:50) (@cris7) Mystical Properties of Topaz
(09:32:06) (minibelle) this sounds like a wonder gem!!
(09:32:29) (@cris7) So says the seller...... :o)
(09:32:36) (@cris7) Topaz has many attributes when it comes to aiding one's physical health. It has been said to work with the spinal column and help steady and regulate the action of the heart. It has been used to treat bleeding and works to promote health in the glandular systems of the body. It is highly recommended for those who wish to improve their eyesight. In earlier times, topaz was believed to be able to actually absorb the heat of a fever.
(09:32:58) (@cris7) Topaz has also long been believed to ease the inflammations, discomfort and pain associated with arthritis. It is used in India to treat tonsillitis, whopping cough, and mumps. Topaz is also useful for treating infections, deafness, goiter, hemorrhage, gout, circulatory problems, and nightmares. It aids in achieving good digestion, combating anorexia, restoring the sense of taste, stimulating metabolism and more. Furthermore, men are believed to become more viral when wearing topaz.
(09:33:31) (@cris7) Topaz is particularly good for artists. It gives one access to their artistic creativity, and increases one's appreciation of beauty. It is said to give a person the capacity to see both the larger picture and the minute detail, recognizing how they interrelate.
(09:33:58) (@cris7) Emotionally, topaz is very useful for treating depression. It helps a person alleviate their fears, and treats psychosomatic illnesses. It balances emotions, helping those who go from one extreme to another. Topaz is highly recommended for healing a person who is suffering from shock or trauma. It is also an excellent stone for those whose lives contain abnormal amounts of stress or tension. Topaz can stimulate a person to maintain a brighter outlook on life.
(09:34:32) (@cris7) Topaz has been praised for its ability to attune one to his higher self. It facilitates living according to your own aspiration and views rather than living your life to please others. In paying attention to your own needs and finding your inner sources of emotional nourishment rather than feeding off a partner, you nurture yourself. And in living life in an equal partnership you can find that inner fulfillment we are all looking for. This can lead to a more productive life.
(09:35:02) (@cris7) All in all, topaz has been said to relieve greed, frenzies, insanity, hypocrisy, envy, intrigue, disease, injury, sudden death, sorcery, negative magic, lunacy and all disturbing emotions. It is said to soothe, heal, re-motivate, and bring the wearer strength, loyalty, beauty, protection, healing, weight loss, joy, generosity, abundance, wisdom, enlightenment, knowledge, good health, virtues of leadership, and love.
(09:35:22) (minibelle) i just need some topaz
(09:35:29) (@blubearwoman) lol
(09:35:30) (@cris7) Topaz is known as the "clover of gold," as it is used to bring wealth and money. It is traditionally known as a stone of love and good fortune, bringing successful attainment of goals. It is said to be especially effective when set in gold and bound to the left arm. Topaz brings confidence, aids in problem solving, openness, honesty, self-control, self-realization and the development of inner wisdom.
(09:35:39) (@blubearwoman) couldn't hurt my belle
(09:35:47) (minibelle) lots of topaz
(09:35:56) (@cris7) Me too Minibelle I gave away my last one
(09:36:09) (@cris7) Placed in the home, topaz protects against fire and accidents. When put under the pillow, it fends off nightmares and ends sleep walking. Overall, topaz has been known to transmute negative energy into positive energy.
(09:36:12) (@blubearwoman) maybe you should invest in a pendant with this money
(09:36:16) (minibelle) let all go on a wild topaz hunt!!
(09:37:04) (@cris7) I'm game when no longer a caregiver
(09:37:26) (@cris7) In particular, blue topaz has been said to be extremely helpful to those who are angry. The stone aids in releasing one's anger and bringing the realization of ones emotions and emotional pain to the surface. It helps one learn his true and real feelings and honor them, letting go of anger and resentment. Blue topaz promotes the surrender to forgiveness of oneself and others, thereby releasing the anger that can hold a person back from living a healthy life.
(09:37:39) (minibelle) i'm just being silly--but what a stone--so many things it does
(09:38:06) (@cris7) Blue topaz also aids verbalization and is excellent for meditation and living according to your own aspirations and views. It helps you recognize truth and wisdom and where exactly you have strayed from your own truth. It is a great choice for the time when we want to understand our entire life, when we want to know why what seemed to be our greatest wish, our strongest desire, was not fulfilled. It allows us to clearly see what we have accomplished, and the goals we still have left to accomplish. This clear vision allows us to have inner peace.
(09:38:21) (ron1) It will go to work for you, as well
(09:38:46) (@cris7) End of Topaz... Whew!!!
(09:38:55) (@blubearwoman) awesome
(09:39:06) (ron1) that is some gem
(09:39:15) (@blubearwoman) sounds pretty good
(09:39:16) (minibelle) i say so
(09:39:35) (@blubearwoman) I have never been drawn to yellow stones
(09:39:41) (@blubearwoman) but blue sounds good
(09:40:06) (@blubearwoman) clear would be good for me too
(09:40:08) (@cris7) There is natural blue topaz you can find
(09:40:12) (minibelle) yes it sure does sound good
(09:40:31) (@blubearwoman) I might have some, can't remember if it is topaz or aquamarine
(09:40:46) (@cris7) Ready for Citrine?
(09:40:49) (@blubearwoman) yep
(09:41:08) (minibelle) ok but can it equal topaz?? i think not
(09:41:17) (@blubearwoman) lol
(09:41:27) (@cris7) maybe....
(09:41:27) (minibelle) super topaz
(09:41:40) (minibelle) oh my really? lead on Cris
(09:41:58) (@cris7) I like citrine not the heat treated but the natural
(09:42:36) (@cris7) History and Lore of Citrine
(09:42:56) (@cris7) Citrine is the birthstone for the month of November, sharing the title with topaz. In fact, the citrine stone has been used to imitate topaz and was once called Brazilian topaz. Citrine is also the gemstone that celebrates the 13th anniversary of marriage. Citrine is named after the French word Citrin, meaning lemon. The color of citrine ranges from straw and sun yellow to clay orange, to deep, wine colored Madeira red. In the past, the Madeira colored stones were the most valuable, but today, the more vivid yellows and oranges are the most popular. Natural bright yellow citrine is the most rare of the quartz varieties.
(09:43:47) (@cris7) Citrine has been popular for thousands of years and used to be revered for its rarity, though that has changed with time. The ancient Romans used it for beautiful jewelry and intaglio work. It was also very popular for jewelry in the 19th century. During the Art Deco period between World Wars I and II, large citrines were set in many prized pieces, including the massive and elaborate Art Deco inspired jewelry pieces made for big Hollywood stars such as Greta Garbo and Joan Crawford.
(09:44:18) (@cris7) Nowadays however, the stone is not as rare, and thus, the use of citrine has little to do with opulence and luxury anymore. In fact, for years, Citrine became so cheap and plentiful, no one took it seriously. Now however, there is a full-scale renaissance for this gem. Its bargain price is no longer a handicap, but an asset, as it allows for use of very large stones in jewelry.
(09:44:40) (@cris7) As part of the trend, jewelry makers are using big, bold gems- many cut in a cubist manner, to give lots of splash for the money. Citrine has found favor with budget minded women looking to expand their wardrobes with affordable pieces of jewelry. When it comes to providing earth-toned colors for women on a budget, citrine has no real competition.
(09:44:55) (@cris7) Mystical Properties of Citrine
(09:45:17) (@cris7) There are many positive attributes of the citrine stone when it comes to aiding the physical self. It is said that the stone aids urinary, kidney, and digestive diseases. It has also been said that citrine purifies the system and may help counteract the toxic affects of many pharmaceutical medicines. Citrine is believed to be a tonic for the circulatory system, helping cleanse the blood, as it is processed within the kidneys and other organs. It is also believed to enhance the passage of electrical impulses within the nervous system and improve the functionality of the endocrine system.
(09:45:46) (@cris7) Citrine gives energy and invigoration to the physical body. It is useful to people who are sensitive to environmental and other outside influences. It is also highly beneficial for reversing degenerative diseases. Citrine stimulates digestion, the spleen, and the pancreas. It helps eye problems, increases blood circulation, and activates the thymus.
(09:46:06) (@blubearwoman) sounds good so far
(09:46:08) (@cris7) It has a warming effect and fortifies the nerves. It also relieves constipation and supposedly aids in removing cellulite. Soaking a citrine in pure water renders an elixir, which is reported to release toxins from the body. As an elixir, citrine is also helpful for women and their menstrual problems, such as PMS and cramps. It is also beneficial to women as it aids in menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, by balancing the hormones and alleviating fatigue. As with other yellow gemstones, citrine is used to treat bladder diseases and imbalances in the thyroid gland.
(09:46:38) (@blubearwoman) I am sold
(09:46:53) (minibelle) me too
(09:47:00) (@cris7) LOL
(09:47:04) (@cris7) Citrine is believed to be of value in healing the spiritual self as well, as it is a powerful cleanser and regenerator. It carries the virtues of self-healing, inspiration and self-improvement. Carrying the power of the sun, it is excellent for overcoming depression, fears and phobias. It aids those with a depressed self-esteem. One's sense of self becomes more radiant with a citrine and it helps to look forward to the future optimistically, going with the flow, instead of hanging on to the past.
(09:47:07) (minibelle) what colors does it come in?
(09:48:04) (@cris7) Mentally, it awakens the higher mind, expanding conscious awareness and improving clarity of thought, promoting inner calm so that wisdom may emerge. It stimulates intellect and mental activity and overcomes the difficulty one may have with verbalizing thoughts and feelings. The gemstone helps in digesting information and analyzing situations, steering them in the right direction, therefore helping us find solutions to our problems.
(09:48:46) (@cris7) Citrine also encourages the acceptance of constructive criticism and shows you how to act on it. It provides a type of personal mind control in that it helps you steady your emotions and keep them balanced and under control. It also assists you to be spontaneous without trampling on other people in the process. Holding a citrine assists you to remain calm in the most challenging of situations. Because of this, it is a useful stone for smoothing group or family discord. It helps you listen to others rather than talking across them.
(09:49:14) (@cris7) Citrine draws off stress and negativity from your body and brings in a quiet, refreshing peace. It helps you overcomes fear of responsibility and stops anger and destructive tendencies. It has also been said that the stone acts as an early warning system so that action can be taken to protect oneself.
(09:49:35) (@cris7) Citrine is warming, energizing, and highly creative, and imparts a flexibility and openness to new experiences. It energizes every level of your life and is a powerful attractor of helpful friends and mentors. It has the power to impart joy to all who behold it and instills a positive attitude.
(09:49:54) (@cris7) Gloom and negativity do not exist around the citrine. Citrine supports generosity, yet at the same time, helps you hold onto your wealth. It is said that the stone will draw all the good things in life to you.
(09:50:03) (@cris7) End of Citrine
(09:50:10) (@blubearwoman) awesome
(09:50:14) (minibelle) wow
(09:50:33) (minibelle) need a crate of each of the above stones Cris
(09:50:44) (@cris7) Mineral dealers usually have a piece of citrine in their cash boxes
(09:50:50) (@blubearwoman) I have seen in some of these new age shops a pendant that has all the 7 stones of the chakras on them, have considered buying one
(09:51:26) (@cris7) It does open your mind to new experiences
(09:52:10) (@blubearwoman) i should super glue a bunch of stones to WIS
(09:52:32) (minibelle) maybe put them on a vest Blu
(09:52:44) (minibelle) like in the Breastplate
(09:52:51) (minibelle) in the Bible
(09:52:53) (@cris7) We could all use one
(09:53:03) (minibelle) i agree
(09:53:04) (@blubearwoman) I made him a neck lass a long time ago with our totems, I may try doing that again with stones
(09:53:46) (@blubearwoman) been a long time since I made jewelry
(09:55:15) (@cris7) The Url for this is : www.jewelsforme.com Please remember this site wants to sell you stuff. It is a good source of information if you click on the lore section and the
(09:55:28) (@cris7) learn about section
(10:24:34) (@cris7) Have to go Blessings all
(10:24:40) (@blubearwoman) Blessings Cris
(10:24:41) (ron1) bye