Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 20, 2007 23:04:38 GMT -5
Healing Stones Chat: 02-20-07
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(09:39:09) (Cris) I'm going to get started
(09:39:13) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:39:23) (MaryAnne) Amen
(09:39:25) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:39:26) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:39:29) (merri) Amen
(09:39:34) (Bill) Amen
(09:39:58) (Blu) Amen
(09:40:20) (Raleigh) god please send your son quickly / :)
(09:40:39) (Cris) Welcome to Healing Stones. The book we will be following is Gemstone Journeys by Dr. Shelley Kaehr. It is her first book on gemstones. She was a presenter at a recent ARE conference at Orange Beach, Alabama.
(09:41:15) (Cris) Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gemstone Journeys written by Dr. Shelley Kaehr.
(09:42:02) (merri) very good article about her in VI
(09:42:18) (Cris) I'd like to mention that this book is the author’s personal truth yours may be different.
(09:42:50) (Cris) She's a dynamic speaker
(09:42:55) (Cris) I am very interested in the opinions of other people to this material as not all of it resonates fully with me. In part it is because we all have varying experiences. These just happen to be those of the author. If yours are different please speak up! We learn from each other. This does not mean any experience is invalid it simply means that each of us will have our own perceptions.
(09:43:17) (Cris) I liken learning here on earth to be like that of blind children examining an elephant. The view of the child will depend on the part of the elephant he or she had touched. Each is a tiny part of the whole picture.
(09:43:31) (Cris) Our perceptions also change with more knowledge. Enlightened people sometimes do a 180-degree turn once they have more facts. Gandhi was once asked why he changed his mind so often and he was quoted as saying, “Because I know better now and I might change again once I know more.”
(09:44:00) (Cris) Chapter Four
(09:44:13) (Cris) Stones and the Chakras
(09:44:38) (Raleigh) this is gonna be good / :)
(09:45:10) (Cris) If we were to actually see the chakras, they would look like colored tornados beginning at the base of the spine and working up to the top of the head. Generally the lower three would swirl in a counter-clockwise position and the upper four would rotate in a clockwise position.
(09:45:48) (Cris) Root
(09:46:33) (Cris) The root or first chakra is located at the base of the spine and vibrates to the color red. When functioning properly the chakra keeps us grounded in earthly activities and helps us feel centered and connected to the earth. If we are feeling “spaced out” or confused or disconnected from reality there may be a blockage there.
(09:47:22) (Cris) Sacral
(09:48:05) (Cris) The healthy functioning of the first and second chakras combined enables us to both create and actually finish things and bring them out to the physical plane. An example of someone with a well functioning second chakra is a musician who writes her songs then actually complete the album and takes it to the marketplace.
(09:48:26) (Cris) A blockage in this area could mean someone if lacking in financial abundance or is incapable of finishing a project.
(09:48:52) (Cris) Solar Plexus
(09:50:31) (Cris) I am fascinated with the work of Carl Jung and others on the collective consciousness, that idea that humankind as a whole thinks about certain universal truths we create huge energetic representations of these thoughts in the universe in the form of astral matter. According to the theory of collective consciousness, that matter affects all of us on a daily basis.
(09:50:56) (Cris) Another theory I once heard is that humankind operates in one of the seven-chakra centers at any give time.
(09:51:05) (Raleigh) hmmm/ k
(09:51:11) (Cris) It is believed that before the fall of Atlantis that we were evolved to a very high level, but that after the great destruction we had to start from scratch and work our way back up
(09:51:25) (Cris) Ral keep in mind this is the author's theories
(09:51:32) (Cris) Yours may be different
(09:51:33) (Raleigh) yes k tx
(09:51:55) (Cris) We began with the root chakra, or the basic survival instincts. When we collectively moved into the sacral chakra, we became more occupied with the sexual side of our nature. At this time we began to see diseases that reflected that consciousness – such as AIDS – pop up. (This is the author’s theory.)
(09:52:22) (Cris) Many theorists feel that during the 90’s and until the tragic events of September 11, 2001, we concentrated on our manifestation of material possessions (a second chakra function) and moved into power trips centering on money and ego, which are all about the solar plexus.
(09:52:38) (Cris) Heart
(09:52:57) (Cris) The fourth chakra is the heart. It surprises many people that the heart chakra vibrates to the color green since we often associate it with rosy red or pink. While these colors are also very healing to our hearts, it is actually the healing green of Mother Nature herself that resonates with our best heart center.
(09:53:19) (Cris) Many believe that a shift in the collective consciousness is presently occurring and that humankind as a whole is beginning to shift to the heart chakra.
(09:53:39) (Cris) The process of shifting is not always easy as evidenced by the many people suffering from heart ailments and diseases. Since heart disease is still the number one killer in the united States and other nations, it will be interesting to observe the changes that may occur over our lifetimes as we successfully shift our attention to love and away from greedy materialism.
(09:54:03) (Cris) Lessons of the heart not only deal with loving others, but with loving ourselves as well – not an easy journey for many of us.
(09:55:33) (Raleigh) the upper 3 are the silver cord / seems i dithed the lower 4
(09:55:49) (Cris) Many people are stifled by others negativity and by a fear of expressing themselves. As we are able t accept ourselves more and to share our ideas and personal truth as we see it, we open our throat chakras.
(09:56:20) (Cris) I can attest to the fact that this area has been a lifelong challenge for me, as I’m sure it is for many others. Because we live in a society where “political correctness” counts and lawsuits abound, it is easy to see why communication is an issue facing mankind on a large scale.
(09:56:43) (Cris) Many of us, myself included, also have a desire to have everyone to like us. Sacrificing our true thoughts, emotions and feelings, for silence so people will like us is an issue of the throat. The throat chakra challenges us to have the courage to be ourselves.
(09:56:59) (Cris) A good example of someone with an open throat chakra is a singer, because it takes a lot of courage to get up before others and sing. Likewise, professional speakers and actors are more likely to have opened the throat center.
(09:57:14) (Cris) Third Eye
(09:57:27) (Cris) The third eye is the sixth chakra located on the forehead. This is our mystical, psychic, intuitive, center, and the one chakra many of us would most like to open.
(09:57:29) (Raleigh) nope\pinel is next
(09:57:39) (Raleigh) no its not
(09:57:47) (Raleigh) pieal is the 7th /
(09:57:59) (Raleigh) oh well please continue cris /
(09:58:02) (Blu) some people list it differently ral
(09:58:06) (Cris) This is the author's work Ral not mine
(09:58:06) (Raleigh) k
(09:58:18) (Raleigh) ok / but i am correct /
(09:58:19) (Cris) that is why it is open for discussion
(09:58:22) (JohnnyArrow) According to Cayce that is correct Raleigh
(09:58:22) (Raleigh) brb
(09:58:31) (Blu) yes ral you are in line with Cayce
(09:58:31) (Raleigh) wrong
(09:58:34) (Cris) The third eye chakra vibrates to the color indigo, a purplish blue. Those who have clairvoyant visions or those who seem to predict the future have opened the third eye.
(09:58:41) (Raleigh) i studied this big
(09:58:50) (Raleigh) the shepaerds staff/
(09:58:52) (Cris) This is not a privilege for the few who have inherited the ability at birth. With diligence anyone can develop this gift.
(09:58:56) (Raleigh) oh well / brb
(09:58:57) (JohnnyArrow) What you said is correct Raleigh
(09:59:07) (Raleigh) yes i know /
(09:59:08) (Cris) The third eye also represents the intellect and truths that involve the eyes and ears brain and the pineal and pituitary glands.
(09:59:12) (Raleigh) brb /
(09:59:26) (Cris) The Crown Chakra was not described in the book.
(09:59:28) (Alec) cayce said the 7 chakras did not go straight up, but instead took on the shepherds crook form
(09:59:49) (Raleigh) yes alec/
(09:59:51) (Blu) odd that she wouldleave it out
(10:00:14) (Cris) This ends chapter four any discussion? What are your views?
(10:01:23) (Blu) If you do not want the truth don't be in the same room with him!
(10:01:58) (Cris) I've heard Dr. Kaehr speak and she is a good presenter but again I feel that we are all learning so we are likely to have different experiences
(10:03:01) (Bill) mine are why would anyone care what color or anything else about chackras?
(10:03:07) (JohnnyArrow) Many a good speaker have never applied.
(10:03:42) (Blu) Are you serious bill?
(10:03:44) (JohnnyArrow) Alec whispers to JohnnyArrow: stooped to a new low i see
(10:03:50) (Cris) I prefer a text withmore "meat" in it but I also wanted something for people who hadn't studies\d this before
(10:03:55) (JohnnyArrow) In what way Alec?
(10:03:55) (Bill) yes of course i serious
(10:04:16) (JohnnyArrow) As I have never stooped as low as you in my life.
(10:04:17) (Alec) thats right i whispered it, as not to disturb the whole room as yoiurte tendancies do, Joey
(10:04:18) (Cris) Color can be an indication of how open your chakras are
(10:04:23) (Alec) lol
(10:04:27) (Blu) Well, for one thing if a chakra color is wrong then there could be illness
(10:04:34) (JohnnyArrow) Yes, in the shadows.
(10:04:42) (JohnnyArrow) A true shadow warrior.
(10:05:00) (JohnnyArrow) Casting out your spells and what have yous.
(10:05:20) (Bill) why not just live in such a way your chakras will look after themselves?
(10:05:29) (JohnnyArrow) Rather then being in th open.
(10:05:39) (Blu) that would be the ideal, but that seldom happens
(10:05:50) (JohnnyArrow) But Gos Is Not Mocked.
(10:05:52) (Cris) Whatmatters is that you keep studying and learning on your own. I've been in this for a long time so my views will reflect what I have learned and they are less simplistic
(10:06:07) (JohnnyArrow) And those who think they casnm get away with wrong doing never do.
(10:06:48) (WalksInSpirit) You're right about that last statement, Joey.
(10:07:00) (Blu) chakras are like the gates to higher
(10:07:01) (JohnnyArrow) Yes.
(10:07:04) (WalksInSpirit) Ooooh so right.
(10:07:14) (JohnnyArrow) As I have often said little is by chance.
(10:07:17) (Blu) consciousness
(10:07:32) (JohnnyArrow) Cause and effect.
(10:07:32) (WalksInSpirit) And yours is calling.
(10:07:42) (Cris) For example the hearts of some people aren't just affected by materialism sometimesit is out right heart disease because of poor diet
(10:07:44) (WalksInSpirit) It went out today.
(10:07:51) (JohnnyArrow) You only have yourselves to blame for your woes.
(10:08:01) (Blu) dis ease
(10:08:10) (JohnnyArrow) Self piety often leads to finding fault with others Alerc.
(10:09:02) (JohnnyArrow) Accusations of the wicked have little effect on the rightgeous.
(10:09:04) (Blu) for instance bill if you meditate and you feel constriction in your throat chakra that would tell you that you might have issues with will
(10:09:04) (Cris) I think too much stock can be put in to one explanation without learning more about other causes
(10:09:38) (Blu) I think an understanding of chkras is a good thing
(10:10:08) (Bill) being honest with self is the first step i think
(10:10:09) (JohnnyArrow) If you hadn't of been a hypocrite Alec your life would have gone better.
(10:10:16) (JohnnyArrow) God Is Not Mocked.
(10:10:26) (Blu) It's ok not to I suppose, it would be a bit like having a car and not understanding the fundamental things you need to do to keep it running
(10:10:26) (JohnnyArrow) You reaped what you sowed.
(10:10:33) (Cris) A closed throat chakra could also mean you never learned to speak up
(10:10:42) (Blu) right Cris
(10:11:18) (Cris) That could be from the way you were raised
(10:11:37) (Blu) Another thing s when you begin to meditate you experience and increase in sexual feelings, this is because you are stimulating the first chkra. If you did not understand that it might lead to problems
(10:11:44) (JohnnyArrow) If someone cwanted to know of me they should of asked God.
(10:11:47) (JohnnyArrow) Not Alec.
(10:12:04) (JohnnyArrow) Or at least someone whop came and applied like Analaya.
(10:12:13) (JohnnyArrow) Whose life is now Blessed.
(10:12:28) (JohnnyArrow) As has friends life improved dramatically.
(10:12:32) (JohnnyArrow) Why?
(10:12:37) (WalksInSpirit) Is this Guru Chat, or Cris' Healing Stones Chat?
(10:13:18) (JohnnyArrow) I don't know Black Crow you tell me.
(10:13:23) (Blu) I personally think that understanding chakras leads to understanding who we are
(10:13:23) (Cris) Supposed to be Healing Stones please stay on te subject johnny
(10:13:54) (WalksInSpirit) I'm gonna tell you something, Joey. I have taken the last racist slur from you I am going to take.
(10:14:03) (Bill) Joey that tone sounds an awfully like lower self nature speaking
(10:14:11) (JohnnyArrow) That was not a racist slur.
(10:14:12) (WalksInSpirit) Don't you have a cross to burn or white sheet to iron somewhere?
(10:14:17) (JohnnyArrow) Nor do I use them.
(10:14:18) (Cris) I'd like to suggest that we all choose a stone and mediate on it over the next week then lsee what we come up with
(10:14:27) (WalksInSpirit) (10:47:02) (JohnnyArrow) Ego bad. Brings death. God Good. Brings Life.
(10:14:28) (Blu) good idea Cris
(10:14:35) (WalksInSpirit) See that, Joey?
(10:14:42) (WalksInSpirit) That was from last night's chat
(10:14:57) (JohnnyArrow) That is true.
(10:15:03) (JohnnyArrow) You call me Joey.
(10:15:05) (Anonymous) what do those numbers mean, WIS?
(10:15:08) (WalksInSpirit) that is what we American Indians call "Noble Savage Speak" and it is highly offensive and racist.
(10:15:13) (JohnnyArrow) I call you Blasck Crow,
(10:15:39) (WalksInSpirit) It's a timestamp, Anonymous
(10:16:01) (JohnnyArrow) You speak in the spirit of liers and deceit hence darkness.
(10:16:06) (Anonymous) oh; how do you get those to show up?
(10:16:12) (JohnnyArrow) You have told countless lies about me.
(10:16:18) (WalksInSpirit) From a program I use
(10:16:25) (WalksInSpirit) I have not, Joey
(10:16:28) (JohnnyArrow) What lies haver I told about you?
(10:16:38) (WalksInSpirit) You're telling them right now
(10:16:43) (JohnnyArrow) Yes you have/
(10:16:44) (Blu) Joey WIS has never lied about you
(10:16:54) (Cris) Johny this is healing stones not time for a tirade
(10:17:02) (WalksInSpirit) Trying to deflect what you did last night.
(10:17:02) (JohnnyArrow) Like the one when you said I cxame in your chatroom.
(10:17:06) (Bill) Cris how would you meditate on a stone?
(10:17:06) (Blu) if you have an arguement with anyone it's me
(10:17:33) (JohnnyArrow) Yes he haqs Blu.
(10:17:57) (Alec) everyone ignore Joey, he has clearly lost it
(10:18:05) (JohnnyArrow) What did I do last night for example?
(10:18:06) (Blu) let me be susre I understand what you are saying, you think WIS said you came to the Red Path chat?
(10:18:15) (WalksInSpirit) Everyone in here knows I do not lie. So, back to the issue. Why the racism? This is a new low for you, Joey.
(10:18:28) (JohnnyArrow) That was not racist.
(10:18:29) (Anonymous) maybe somebody can tell me how or if it's possible to scroll up here to catch up with conversations; it took me forever to do it tonight
(10:18:30) (Cris) There are several ways hold it in your hand and focus on it
(10:18:37) (WalksInSpirit) The heck it wasn't, Joey!
(10:18:41) (JohnnyArrow) It was a betterr neme for you.
(10:18:45) (JohnnyArrow) Not racist.
(10:18:54) (Bill) there is no easy way Anon
(10:18:57) (JohnnyArrow) It wasn't a racial slur.
(10:19:03) (Alec) unless you have a Mac, Anon : )
(10:19:09) (Anonymous) ah
(10:19:10) (Cris) Hold it with your eyes closed and listen to see if you get any particular feelings from it
(10:19:12) (Blu) you can take your pointer and put it on the page and select all and copy it and paste it someplace stable Anon
(10:19:13) (Anonymous) thanks
(10:19:17) (Alec) yep
(10:19:30) (Bill) okay Crtis i see what you mean now
(10:19:33) (WalksInSpirit) (10:47:02) (JohnnyArrow) Ego bad. Brings death. God Good. Brings Life.
(10:19:33) (Bill) Cris
(10:19:39) (Cris) You can also put it on your third eye area to see if it reasonates with you
(10:19:40) (JohnnyArrow) Yes.
(10:19:54) (JohnnyArrow) Is that what I did last night.
(10:19:55) (Anonymous) ah; thanks
(10:20:05) (Blu) I can hold a stone and feel the vibration in it
(10:20:07) (Cris) I use all three ways and some people put them under their pillows
(10:20:29) (Blu) left hand is the receiving hand
(10:20:30) (WalksInSpirit) The way you are speaking there - the Noble Savage crap - like a bad western? THAT is as racist as a white person putting on blackface and singing Song Of The South while eating a watermelon.
(10:20:33) (Bill) i hold them in my hand and feel their warmth
(10:20:33) (merri) the better to dream with!!
(10:20:42) (Alec) hi merri!
(10:20:46) (Alec) :-)
(10:20:53) (Anonymous) I'm gathering that most of you folks know each other in the real world
(10:21:00) (Alec) a few, Anon
(10:21:05) (Bill) are you kidding
(10:21:11) (WalksInSpirit) Blu is my wife, ANonymous
(10:21:11) (merri) LOL
(10:21:20) (Blu) I guess it depends opn what you think is real anon!
(10:21:21) (Cris) We know each other here anonymous and this is usually a lot more peaceful
(10:21:35) (Cris) We are all from different parts of the country
(10:22:02) (Raleigh) k better / ill see the study redpath site / ty cris ///
(10:22:26) (Anonymous) I was wondering if cheap stones are any good at chakra stimulation or if you have to invest in high quality gems and such
(10:22:35) (Raleigh) im just doin the letter of the law / im workin on it guys //
(10:22:51) (merri) not necessary Anon
(10:22:55) (Cris) Come to some of the other chats you will get a feel for the site and how we learn together
(10:23:00) (Blu) Cris recomends going to mineral shows
(10:23:04) (WalksInSpirit) And as far as names go, Joey, I have one. I don't need you to give me a new one. That is why I have a Creator. THAT is also an insult to my religion. I don't need 39 names to come to chat like you seem to.
(10:23:14) (Anonymous) have you read Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking, Raleigh?
(10:23:15) (Cris) Any stone rough, or polished will do
(10:23:42) (JohnnyArrow) As God Moves me to change my name I do.
(10:23:42) (Cris) I give away a lot of stones and I use a lot of what I find
(10:23:49) (Anonymous) but the colors have to match up, right?
(10:23:52) (WalksInSpirit) Well, you ain't my God.
(10:23:53) (Cris) I am a rockhound in real life
(10:24:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nor my guru.
(10:24:04) (JohnnyArrow) Never claiomed I was./
(10:24:05) (Raleigh) i have pych orders to not quit anon / true /
(10:24:05) (Anonymous) I can't afford rubies and yellow diamonds I don't think
(10:24:16) (Cris) You dn't need them
(10:24:17) (Blu) Seems kind of funny you pick a name that is in imitation of WIS joey
(10:24:22) (JohnnyArrow) But then you did claim you did not want My God.
(10:24:25) (WalksInSpirit) Then, keep your little name suggestions and everyhing else to yourself.
(10:24:39) (JohnnyArrow) Wouldn't accept you as a student.
(10:24:47) (Cris) You can buy inexpensive stones at a gem & mineral show and they work just as well
(10:24:48) (JohnnyArrow) And I never played guru.
(10:24:55) (JohnnyArrow) They want you to follow them.
(10:25:03) (JohnnyArrow) I want you to follow God.
(10:25:09) (JohnnyArrow) Looose yourself.
(10:25:17) (JohnnyArrow) That which is leading you tobdeath.
(10:25:18) (WalksInSpirit) Joey, If I EVER wanted anything out of you, I'd squeeze you.
(10:25:27) (Anonymous) thanks Cris
(10:25:33) (JohnnyArrow) And maybe put on the Spirit of Light and Life.
(10:25:36) (JohnnyArrow) ]That's all.
(10:25:59) (JohnnyArrow) My teachings are simple.
(10:26:05) (Cris) What stones are you interested in Anonymous?
(10:26:08) (JohnnyArrow) I'll give you the firstr steop.
(10:26:14) (JohnnyArrow) Then you do the rest.
(10:26:20) (WalksInSpirit) Did I studder?
(10:26:47) (Anonymous) one each, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet
(10:26:50) (WalksInSpirit) Unless it comes from GOD, I don't want it nor do I need it!
(10:26:58) (JohnnyArrow) Why yes you did as a matter of fact.
(10:27:15) (Blu) Anon are you interested in the Cayce material?
(10:27:28) (JohnnyArrow) As seldom do you and your accusations have any basis in truth.
(10:27:37) (Raleigh) lets have peace / pls continue cris /
(10:27:48) (JohnnyArrow) I never set out to be anybodys God, nor guru in here.
(10:27:50) (WalksInSpirit) Joey, you've shown otherwise.
(10:27:55) (JohnnyArrow) That's all in your mind.
(10:28:03) (JohnnyArrow) From the darkness within.
(10:28:06) (WalksInSpirit) (10:25:59) (JohnnyArrow) My teachings are simple.
(10:28:14) (Cris) I don't know He's been coming for years
(10:28:17) (JohnnyArrow) That conmvinces you these lies are your truth.
(10:28:21) (WalksInSpirit) if that ain't a guru, I'll eat somebody's hat
(10:28:23) (JohnnyArrow) SDo you go with it.
(10:28:36) (JohnnyArrow) Easier then admiting your wrong.
(10:28:39) (Blu) sigh
(10:28:55) (Cris) garnets are inexpensive and can be foudn in most states
(10:29:00) (Cris) that is your red
(10:29:03) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, everybody has an ego trip but you, right?
(10:29:03) (Anonymous) say, Raleigh, if I don't sound fresh to ask this, how can I get some psychic advice like that?
(10:29:11) (Blu) yes, and it's a nice stone
(10:29:13) (JohnnyArrow) I slip at times.
(10:29:19) (Cris) Citrine is yellow and also inexpensive for yellow
(10:29:20) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, I noticed
(10:29:21) (JohnnyArrow) But I don't ego trip.
(10:29:25) (Raleigh) cris has the floor now anon/
(10:29:31) (JohnnyArrow) That would serve no good purpose.
(10:29:42) (WalksInSpirit) WHat good purpose are you serving now?
(10:30:00) (Anonymous) orange?
(10:30:06) (JohnnyArrow) See your lower self natuires purpose is to keep me from presenting the Cayce Material.
(10:30:19) (WalksInSpirit) OK, you're not a Host, Joey.
(10:30:23) (Blu) no one is stopping you Joey
(10:30:25) (JohnnyArrow) So.
(10:30:34) (JohnnyArrow) What's a host?
(10:30:53) (WalksInSpirit) A Host has clearance from the ARE to present material in this room.
(10:31:00) (Blu) Any one buy a new stone lately?
(10:31:05) (JohnnyArrow) No they don't.
(10:31:12) (WalksInSpirit) yes they do.
(10:31:18) (JohnnyArrow) No they don't.
(10:31:20) (Cris) I am leaving this as open chat
(10:31:27) (Cris) Blessings all
(09:39:09) (Cris) I'm going to get started
(09:39:13) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:39:23) (MaryAnne) Amen
(09:39:25) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:39:26) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:39:29) (merri) Amen
(09:39:34) (Bill) Amen
(09:39:58) (Blu) Amen
(09:40:20) (Raleigh) god please send your son quickly / :)
(09:40:39) (Cris) Welcome to Healing Stones. The book we will be following is Gemstone Journeys by Dr. Shelley Kaehr. It is her first book on gemstones. She was a presenter at a recent ARE conference at Orange Beach, Alabama.
(09:41:15) (Cris) Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gemstone Journeys written by Dr. Shelley Kaehr.
(09:42:02) (merri) very good article about her in VI
(09:42:18) (Cris) I'd like to mention that this book is the author’s personal truth yours may be different.
(09:42:50) (Cris) She's a dynamic speaker
(09:42:55) (Cris) I am very interested in the opinions of other people to this material as not all of it resonates fully with me. In part it is because we all have varying experiences. These just happen to be those of the author. If yours are different please speak up! We learn from each other. This does not mean any experience is invalid it simply means that each of us will have our own perceptions.
(09:43:17) (Cris) I liken learning here on earth to be like that of blind children examining an elephant. The view of the child will depend on the part of the elephant he or she had touched. Each is a tiny part of the whole picture.
(09:43:31) (Cris) Our perceptions also change with more knowledge. Enlightened people sometimes do a 180-degree turn once they have more facts. Gandhi was once asked why he changed his mind so often and he was quoted as saying, “Because I know better now and I might change again once I know more.”
(09:44:00) (Cris) Chapter Four
(09:44:13) (Cris) Stones and the Chakras
(09:44:38) (Raleigh) this is gonna be good / :)
(09:45:10) (Cris) If we were to actually see the chakras, they would look like colored tornados beginning at the base of the spine and working up to the top of the head. Generally the lower three would swirl in a counter-clockwise position and the upper four would rotate in a clockwise position.
(09:45:48) (Cris) Root
(09:46:33) (Cris) The root or first chakra is located at the base of the spine and vibrates to the color red. When functioning properly the chakra keeps us grounded in earthly activities and helps us feel centered and connected to the earth. If we are feeling “spaced out” or confused or disconnected from reality there may be a blockage there.
(09:47:22) (Cris) Sacral
(09:48:05) (Cris) The healthy functioning of the first and second chakras combined enables us to both create and actually finish things and bring them out to the physical plane. An example of someone with a well functioning second chakra is a musician who writes her songs then actually complete the album and takes it to the marketplace.
(09:48:26) (Cris) A blockage in this area could mean someone if lacking in financial abundance or is incapable of finishing a project.
(09:48:52) (Cris) Solar Plexus
(09:50:31) (Cris) I am fascinated with the work of Carl Jung and others on the collective consciousness, that idea that humankind as a whole thinks about certain universal truths we create huge energetic representations of these thoughts in the universe in the form of astral matter. According to the theory of collective consciousness, that matter affects all of us on a daily basis.
(09:50:56) (Cris) Another theory I once heard is that humankind operates in one of the seven-chakra centers at any give time.
(09:51:05) (Raleigh) hmmm/ k
(09:51:11) (Cris) It is believed that before the fall of Atlantis that we were evolved to a very high level, but that after the great destruction we had to start from scratch and work our way back up
(09:51:25) (Cris) Ral keep in mind this is the author's theories
(09:51:32) (Cris) Yours may be different
(09:51:33) (Raleigh) yes k tx
(09:51:55) (Cris) We began with the root chakra, or the basic survival instincts. When we collectively moved into the sacral chakra, we became more occupied with the sexual side of our nature. At this time we began to see diseases that reflected that consciousness – such as AIDS – pop up. (This is the author’s theory.)
(09:52:22) (Cris) Many theorists feel that during the 90’s and until the tragic events of September 11, 2001, we concentrated on our manifestation of material possessions (a second chakra function) and moved into power trips centering on money and ego, which are all about the solar plexus.
(09:52:38) (Cris) Heart
(09:52:57) (Cris) The fourth chakra is the heart. It surprises many people that the heart chakra vibrates to the color green since we often associate it with rosy red or pink. While these colors are also very healing to our hearts, it is actually the healing green of Mother Nature herself that resonates with our best heart center.
(09:53:19) (Cris) Many believe that a shift in the collective consciousness is presently occurring and that humankind as a whole is beginning to shift to the heart chakra.
(09:53:39) (Cris) The process of shifting is not always easy as evidenced by the many people suffering from heart ailments and diseases. Since heart disease is still the number one killer in the united States and other nations, it will be interesting to observe the changes that may occur over our lifetimes as we successfully shift our attention to love and away from greedy materialism.
(09:54:03) (Cris) Lessons of the heart not only deal with loving others, but with loving ourselves as well – not an easy journey for many of us.
(09:55:33) (Raleigh) the upper 3 are the silver cord / seems i dithed the lower 4
(09:55:49) (Cris) Many people are stifled by others negativity and by a fear of expressing themselves. As we are able t accept ourselves more and to share our ideas and personal truth as we see it, we open our throat chakras.
(09:56:20) (Cris) I can attest to the fact that this area has been a lifelong challenge for me, as I’m sure it is for many others. Because we live in a society where “political correctness” counts and lawsuits abound, it is easy to see why communication is an issue facing mankind on a large scale.
(09:56:43) (Cris) Many of us, myself included, also have a desire to have everyone to like us. Sacrificing our true thoughts, emotions and feelings, for silence so people will like us is an issue of the throat. The throat chakra challenges us to have the courage to be ourselves.
(09:56:59) (Cris) A good example of someone with an open throat chakra is a singer, because it takes a lot of courage to get up before others and sing. Likewise, professional speakers and actors are more likely to have opened the throat center.
(09:57:14) (Cris) Third Eye
(09:57:27) (Cris) The third eye is the sixth chakra located on the forehead. This is our mystical, psychic, intuitive, center, and the one chakra many of us would most like to open.
(09:57:29) (Raleigh) nope\pinel is next
(09:57:39) (Raleigh) no its not
(09:57:47) (Raleigh) pieal is the 7th /
(09:57:59) (Raleigh) oh well please continue cris /
(09:58:02) (Blu) some people list it differently ral
(09:58:06) (Cris) This is the author's work Ral not mine
(09:58:06) (Raleigh) k
(09:58:18) (Raleigh) ok / but i am correct /
(09:58:19) (Cris) that is why it is open for discussion
(09:58:22) (JohnnyArrow) According to Cayce that is correct Raleigh
(09:58:22) (Raleigh) brb
(09:58:31) (Blu) yes ral you are in line with Cayce
(09:58:31) (Raleigh) wrong
(09:58:34) (Cris) The third eye chakra vibrates to the color indigo, a purplish blue. Those who have clairvoyant visions or those who seem to predict the future have opened the third eye.
(09:58:41) (Raleigh) i studied this big
(09:58:50) (Raleigh) the shepaerds staff/
(09:58:52) (Cris) This is not a privilege for the few who have inherited the ability at birth. With diligence anyone can develop this gift.
(09:58:56) (Raleigh) oh well / brb
(09:58:57) (JohnnyArrow) What you said is correct Raleigh
(09:59:07) (Raleigh) yes i know /
(09:59:08) (Cris) The third eye also represents the intellect and truths that involve the eyes and ears brain and the pineal and pituitary glands.
(09:59:12) (Raleigh) brb /
(09:59:26) (Cris) The Crown Chakra was not described in the book.
(09:59:28) (Alec) cayce said the 7 chakras did not go straight up, but instead took on the shepherds crook form
(09:59:49) (Raleigh) yes alec/
(09:59:51) (Blu) odd that she wouldleave it out
(10:00:14) (Cris) This ends chapter four any discussion? What are your views?
(10:01:23) (Blu) If you do not want the truth don't be in the same room with him!
(10:01:58) (Cris) I've heard Dr. Kaehr speak and she is a good presenter but again I feel that we are all learning so we are likely to have different experiences
(10:03:01) (Bill) mine are why would anyone care what color or anything else about chackras?
(10:03:07) (JohnnyArrow) Many a good speaker have never applied.
(10:03:42) (Blu) Are you serious bill?
(10:03:44) (JohnnyArrow) Alec whispers to JohnnyArrow: stooped to a new low i see
(10:03:50) (Cris) I prefer a text withmore "meat" in it but I also wanted something for people who hadn't studies\d this before
(10:03:55) (JohnnyArrow) In what way Alec?
(10:03:55) (Bill) yes of course i serious
(10:04:16) (JohnnyArrow) As I have never stooped as low as you in my life.
(10:04:17) (Alec) thats right i whispered it, as not to disturb the whole room as yoiurte tendancies do, Joey
(10:04:18) (Cris) Color can be an indication of how open your chakras are
(10:04:23) (Alec) lol
(10:04:27) (Blu) Well, for one thing if a chakra color is wrong then there could be illness
(10:04:34) (JohnnyArrow) Yes, in the shadows.
(10:04:42) (JohnnyArrow) A true shadow warrior.
(10:05:00) (JohnnyArrow) Casting out your spells and what have yous.
(10:05:20) (Bill) why not just live in such a way your chakras will look after themselves?
(10:05:29) (JohnnyArrow) Rather then being in th open.
(10:05:39) (Blu) that would be the ideal, but that seldom happens
(10:05:50) (JohnnyArrow) But Gos Is Not Mocked.
(10:05:52) (Cris) Whatmatters is that you keep studying and learning on your own. I've been in this for a long time so my views will reflect what I have learned and they are less simplistic
(10:06:07) (JohnnyArrow) And those who think they casnm get away with wrong doing never do.
(10:06:48) (WalksInSpirit) You're right about that last statement, Joey.
(10:07:00) (Blu) chakras are like the gates to higher
(10:07:01) (JohnnyArrow) Yes.
(10:07:04) (WalksInSpirit) Ooooh so right.
(10:07:14) (JohnnyArrow) As I have often said little is by chance.
(10:07:17) (Blu) consciousness
(10:07:32) (JohnnyArrow) Cause and effect.
(10:07:32) (WalksInSpirit) And yours is calling.
(10:07:42) (Cris) For example the hearts of some people aren't just affected by materialism sometimesit is out right heart disease because of poor diet
(10:07:44) (WalksInSpirit) It went out today.
(10:07:51) (JohnnyArrow) You only have yourselves to blame for your woes.
(10:08:01) (Blu) dis ease
(10:08:10) (JohnnyArrow) Self piety often leads to finding fault with others Alerc.
(10:09:02) (JohnnyArrow) Accusations of the wicked have little effect on the rightgeous.
(10:09:04) (Blu) for instance bill if you meditate and you feel constriction in your throat chakra that would tell you that you might have issues with will
(10:09:04) (Cris) I think too much stock can be put in to one explanation without learning more about other causes
(10:09:38) (Blu) I think an understanding of chkras is a good thing
(10:10:08) (Bill) being honest with self is the first step i think
(10:10:09) (JohnnyArrow) If you hadn't of been a hypocrite Alec your life would have gone better.
(10:10:16) (JohnnyArrow) God Is Not Mocked.
(10:10:26) (Blu) It's ok not to I suppose, it would be a bit like having a car and not understanding the fundamental things you need to do to keep it running
(10:10:26) (JohnnyArrow) You reaped what you sowed.
(10:10:33) (Cris) A closed throat chakra could also mean you never learned to speak up
(10:10:42) (Blu) right Cris
(10:11:18) (Cris) That could be from the way you were raised
(10:11:37) (Blu) Another thing s when you begin to meditate you experience and increase in sexual feelings, this is because you are stimulating the first chkra. If you did not understand that it might lead to problems
(10:11:44) (JohnnyArrow) If someone cwanted to know of me they should of asked God.
(10:11:47) (JohnnyArrow) Not Alec.
(10:12:04) (JohnnyArrow) Or at least someone whop came and applied like Analaya.
(10:12:13) (JohnnyArrow) Whose life is now Blessed.
(10:12:28) (JohnnyArrow) As has friends life improved dramatically.
(10:12:32) (JohnnyArrow) Why?
(10:12:37) (WalksInSpirit) Is this Guru Chat, or Cris' Healing Stones Chat?
(10:13:18) (JohnnyArrow) I don't know Black Crow you tell me.
(10:13:23) (Blu) I personally think that understanding chakras leads to understanding who we are
(10:13:23) (Cris) Supposed to be Healing Stones please stay on te subject johnny
(10:13:54) (WalksInSpirit) I'm gonna tell you something, Joey. I have taken the last racist slur from you I am going to take.
(10:14:03) (Bill) Joey that tone sounds an awfully like lower self nature speaking
(10:14:11) (JohnnyArrow) That was not a racist slur.
(10:14:12) (WalksInSpirit) Don't you have a cross to burn or white sheet to iron somewhere?
(10:14:17) (JohnnyArrow) Nor do I use them.
(10:14:18) (Cris) I'd like to suggest that we all choose a stone and mediate on it over the next week then lsee what we come up with
(10:14:27) (WalksInSpirit) (10:47:02) (JohnnyArrow) Ego bad. Brings death. God Good. Brings Life.
(10:14:28) (Blu) good idea Cris
(10:14:35) (WalksInSpirit) See that, Joey?
(10:14:42) (WalksInSpirit) That was from last night's chat
(10:14:57) (JohnnyArrow) That is true.
(10:15:03) (JohnnyArrow) You call me Joey.
(10:15:05) (Anonymous) what do those numbers mean, WIS?
(10:15:08) (WalksInSpirit) that is what we American Indians call "Noble Savage Speak" and it is highly offensive and racist.
(10:15:13) (JohnnyArrow) I call you Blasck Crow,
(10:15:39) (WalksInSpirit) It's a timestamp, Anonymous
(10:16:01) (JohnnyArrow) You speak in the spirit of liers and deceit hence darkness.
(10:16:06) (Anonymous) oh; how do you get those to show up?
(10:16:12) (JohnnyArrow) You have told countless lies about me.
(10:16:18) (WalksInSpirit) From a program I use
(10:16:25) (WalksInSpirit) I have not, Joey
(10:16:28) (JohnnyArrow) What lies haver I told about you?
(10:16:38) (WalksInSpirit) You're telling them right now
(10:16:43) (JohnnyArrow) Yes you have/
(10:16:44) (Blu) Joey WIS has never lied about you
(10:16:54) (Cris) Johny this is healing stones not time for a tirade
(10:17:02) (WalksInSpirit) Trying to deflect what you did last night.
(10:17:02) (JohnnyArrow) Like the one when you said I cxame in your chatroom.
(10:17:06) (Bill) Cris how would you meditate on a stone?
(10:17:06) (Blu) if you have an arguement with anyone it's me
(10:17:33) (JohnnyArrow) Yes he haqs Blu.
(10:17:57) (Alec) everyone ignore Joey, he has clearly lost it
(10:18:05) (JohnnyArrow) What did I do last night for example?
(10:18:06) (Blu) let me be susre I understand what you are saying, you think WIS said you came to the Red Path chat?
(10:18:15) (WalksInSpirit) Everyone in here knows I do not lie. So, back to the issue. Why the racism? This is a new low for you, Joey.
(10:18:28) (JohnnyArrow) That was not racist.
(10:18:29) (Anonymous) maybe somebody can tell me how or if it's possible to scroll up here to catch up with conversations; it took me forever to do it tonight
(10:18:30) (Cris) There are several ways hold it in your hand and focus on it
(10:18:37) (WalksInSpirit) The heck it wasn't, Joey!
(10:18:41) (JohnnyArrow) It was a betterr neme for you.
(10:18:45) (JohnnyArrow) Not racist.
(10:18:54) (Bill) there is no easy way Anon
(10:18:57) (JohnnyArrow) It wasn't a racial slur.
(10:19:03) (Alec) unless you have a Mac, Anon : )
(10:19:09) (Anonymous) ah
(10:19:10) (Cris) Hold it with your eyes closed and listen to see if you get any particular feelings from it
(10:19:12) (Blu) you can take your pointer and put it on the page and select all and copy it and paste it someplace stable Anon
(10:19:13) (Anonymous) thanks
(10:19:17) (Alec) yep
(10:19:30) (Bill) okay Crtis i see what you mean now
(10:19:33) (WalksInSpirit) (10:47:02) (JohnnyArrow) Ego bad. Brings death. God Good. Brings Life.
(10:19:33) (Bill) Cris
(10:19:39) (Cris) You can also put it on your third eye area to see if it reasonates with you
(10:19:40) (JohnnyArrow) Yes.
(10:19:54) (JohnnyArrow) Is that what I did last night.
(10:19:55) (Anonymous) ah; thanks
(10:20:05) (Blu) I can hold a stone and feel the vibration in it
(10:20:07) (Cris) I use all three ways and some people put them under their pillows
(10:20:29) (Blu) left hand is the receiving hand
(10:20:30) (WalksInSpirit) The way you are speaking there - the Noble Savage crap - like a bad western? THAT is as racist as a white person putting on blackface and singing Song Of The South while eating a watermelon.
(10:20:33) (Bill) i hold them in my hand and feel their warmth
(10:20:33) (merri) the better to dream with!!
(10:20:42) (Alec) hi merri!
(10:20:46) (Alec) :-)
(10:20:53) (Anonymous) I'm gathering that most of you folks know each other in the real world
(10:21:00) (Alec) a few, Anon
(10:21:05) (Bill) are you kidding
(10:21:11) (WalksInSpirit) Blu is my wife, ANonymous
(10:21:11) (merri) LOL
(10:21:20) (Blu) I guess it depends opn what you think is real anon!
(10:21:21) (Cris) We know each other here anonymous and this is usually a lot more peaceful
(10:21:35) (Cris) We are all from different parts of the country
(10:22:02) (Raleigh) k better / ill see the study redpath site / ty cris ///
(10:22:26) (Anonymous) I was wondering if cheap stones are any good at chakra stimulation or if you have to invest in high quality gems and such
(10:22:35) (Raleigh) im just doin the letter of the law / im workin on it guys //
(10:22:51) (merri) not necessary Anon
(10:22:55) (Cris) Come to some of the other chats you will get a feel for the site and how we learn together
(10:23:00) (Blu) Cris recomends going to mineral shows
(10:23:04) (WalksInSpirit) And as far as names go, Joey, I have one. I don't need you to give me a new one. That is why I have a Creator. THAT is also an insult to my religion. I don't need 39 names to come to chat like you seem to.
(10:23:14) (Anonymous) have you read Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking, Raleigh?
(10:23:15) (Cris) Any stone rough, or polished will do
(10:23:42) (JohnnyArrow) As God Moves me to change my name I do.
(10:23:42) (Cris) I give away a lot of stones and I use a lot of what I find
(10:23:49) (Anonymous) but the colors have to match up, right?
(10:23:52) (WalksInSpirit) Well, you ain't my God.
(10:23:53) (Cris) I am a rockhound in real life
(10:24:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nor my guru.
(10:24:04) (JohnnyArrow) Never claiomed I was./
(10:24:05) (Raleigh) i have pych orders to not quit anon / true /
(10:24:05) (Anonymous) I can't afford rubies and yellow diamonds I don't think
(10:24:16) (Cris) You dn't need them
(10:24:17) (Blu) Seems kind of funny you pick a name that is in imitation of WIS joey
(10:24:22) (JohnnyArrow) But then you did claim you did not want My God.
(10:24:25) (WalksInSpirit) Then, keep your little name suggestions and everyhing else to yourself.
(10:24:39) (JohnnyArrow) Wouldn't accept you as a student.
(10:24:47) (Cris) You can buy inexpensive stones at a gem & mineral show and they work just as well
(10:24:48) (JohnnyArrow) And I never played guru.
(10:24:55) (JohnnyArrow) They want you to follow them.
(10:25:03) (JohnnyArrow) I want you to follow God.
(10:25:09) (JohnnyArrow) Looose yourself.
(10:25:17) (JohnnyArrow) That which is leading you tobdeath.
(10:25:18) (WalksInSpirit) Joey, If I EVER wanted anything out of you, I'd squeeze you.
(10:25:27) (Anonymous) thanks Cris
(10:25:33) (JohnnyArrow) And maybe put on the Spirit of Light and Life.
(10:25:36) (JohnnyArrow) ]That's all.
(10:25:59) (JohnnyArrow) My teachings are simple.
(10:26:05) (Cris) What stones are you interested in Anonymous?
(10:26:08) (JohnnyArrow) I'll give you the firstr steop.
(10:26:14) (JohnnyArrow) Then you do the rest.
(10:26:20) (WalksInSpirit) Did I studder?
(10:26:47) (Anonymous) one each, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet
(10:26:50) (WalksInSpirit) Unless it comes from GOD, I don't want it nor do I need it!
(10:26:58) (JohnnyArrow) Why yes you did as a matter of fact.
(10:27:15) (Blu) Anon are you interested in the Cayce material?
(10:27:28) (JohnnyArrow) As seldom do you and your accusations have any basis in truth.
(10:27:37) (Raleigh) lets have peace / pls continue cris /
(10:27:48) (JohnnyArrow) I never set out to be anybodys God, nor guru in here.
(10:27:50) (WalksInSpirit) Joey, you've shown otherwise.
(10:27:55) (JohnnyArrow) That's all in your mind.
(10:28:03) (JohnnyArrow) From the darkness within.
(10:28:06) (WalksInSpirit) (10:25:59) (JohnnyArrow) My teachings are simple.
(10:28:14) (Cris) I don't know He's been coming for years
(10:28:17) (JohnnyArrow) That conmvinces you these lies are your truth.
(10:28:21) (WalksInSpirit) if that ain't a guru, I'll eat somebody's hat
(10:28:23) (JohnnyArrow) SDo you go with it.
(10:28:36) (JohnnyArrow) Easier then admiting your wrong.
(10:28:39) (Blu) sigh
(10:28:55) (Cris) garnets are inexpensive and can be foudn in most states
(10:29:00) (Cris) that is your red
(10:29:03) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, everybody has an ego trip but you, right?
(10:29:03) (Anonymous) say, Raleigh, if I don't sound fresh to ask this, how can I get some psychic advice like that?
(10:29:11) (Blu) yes, and it's a nice stone
(10:29:13) (JohnnyArrow) I slip at times.
(10:29:19) (Cris) Citrine is yellow and also inexpensive for yellow
(10:29:20) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, I noticed
(10:29:21) (JohnnyArrow) But I don't ego trip.
(10:29:25) (Raleigh) cris has the floor now anon/
(10:29:31) (JohnnyArrow) That would serve no good purpose.
(10:29:42) (WalksInSpirit) WHat good purpose are you serving now?
(10:30:00) (Anonymous) orange?
(10:30:06) (JohnnyArrow) See your lower self natuires purpose is to keep me from presenting the Cayce Material.
(10:30:19) (WalksInSpirit) OK, you're not a Host, Joey.
(10:30:23) (Blu) no one is stopping you Joey
(10:30:25) (JohnnyArrow) So.
(10:30:34) (JohnnyArrow) What's a host?
(10:30:53) (WalksInSpirit) A Host has clearance from the ARE to present material in this room.
(10:31:00) (Blu) Any one buy a new stone lately?
(10:31:05) (JohnnyArrow) No they don't.
(10:31:12) (WalksInSpirit) yes they do.
(10:31:18) (JohnnyArrow) No they don't.
(10:31:20) (Cris) I am leaving this as open chat
(10:31:27) (Cris) Blessings all
